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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / July 2005Taking granddad with me
Well hopefully in Sept. i thought it would be good if we can goto Belgium so he can see where his father fought in WW1. Spoke to Anett about it and shes going to find some info out for me. I wanted to take him some years ago but couldnt afford it, i cant now but i will sell my car if needs be. Saw him today. had dinner, i had just walked the dog first, he was wet and smelly (dog not granddad) and happy. "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > Well hopefully in Sept. i thought it would be good if we can goto Belgium > so [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and > smelly (dog not granddad) and happy. Hi Julian, I hope you are in the mood for some advice about that. I would really think twice about taking him to Germany, and maybe not do it at all. People with alzheimers don't do well in ANY kind of a strange setting, and have actually gotten lost. They manage to do OK at home and in familiar settings, but you might end up having to take him home again in a hurry, which might cost a lot extra. I know your heart is in the right place, but I honestly think he isn't in a space right now to appreciate the strange and unfamiliar situation. We didn't realize it at the time, but long before Ida was diagnosed we thought she acted like a real pain when we took her on a trip. Later in retrospect I know it was the disease in its early stages. They just don't do well on trips. Others here have done it and could tell you the same thing. Better to hire someone to look in on him while you are away.  SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Better to hire someone to look in on him while you are away. Seconded, its a good thought but the reality might be v different. At the very least, dont spring it on him as a surprise, ask him what he thinks of the idea. And if you do go, you'll have to be *certain* there will be soemone there to be with him every single second. So just the two of you going would be a v bad idea for example. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > > -- > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > soemone there to be with him every single second. So just the two of you > going would be a v bad idea for example. 2 of us would be hard, but because i would get lost!! I have contacts in various countries who are planning my hitch hike to Anett in a couple of weeks for me, and im hoping Anett comes here for a few days when we leave for Germany together. I know phyiscally hes upto it, and i think he would like to help plan the trip too. Thanks for the info and concern..............'hug' > -- > Tumbleweed > > email replies not necessary but to contact use; > tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > Hi Julian, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Hi Evelyn I thought he would be ok, recently hes had a few trips all over and to Scotland for family weddings. I hadnt thought he would be at risk, infact today he was his usual self and i know he doesnt go wandering. I will ask a couple of people that know him and see what they think. He is still really smart and not lost his marbles. I will bite the bullet and call his son, my tosser of a father and see what he says. He is still looking after himself, cooked me a nice dinner apart from the carrots but then my nan and him always gave them me since i can remember sying one day i would like them!!!! >I hope you are in the mood for some advice about that. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Better to hire someone to look in on him while you are away. May I object to that? As someone with A.D. I find it demeaning to have everybody around me "knowing" what's best for me withou asking. I'd suggest that the primary carer is, normally, in the best position to make such decisions--preferably in conjunction with the sufferer. Certainly, I don't believe that anybody who doesn't have first hand knowledge of the people involved. We should be very careful in this forum to offer assistance without giving well-intended but quite possibly adulterated advice. Every AD sufferer is different and it's unlikely that we are going to improve matters for the sufferer by tossing well intentioned but ignorant, i.e. uninformed, advice. I know that everybody who posts here has good intentions--even I. Let's not assume that all with A.D are the same or all carers are the same. - Mind control is being able to make all the voices in your head take turns. Mod as a hooter! > >I hope you are in the mood for some advice about that. > > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Mod as a hooter! Im not the primary carer, he still lives on his own very well but with a couple of people keeping a eye on him to make sure hes ok. Now i hadnt thought or had any exp with people who are taken on trips or out of there normal routine, it hadnt occoured to me it could be a problem, ok i think he would be ok, esp with me and Anett there, but its a valid point they raised. On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:24:08 GMT in alt.support.alzheimers, "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Now i hadnt > thought or had any exp with people who are taken on trips or out of there > normal routine, it hadnt occoured to me it could be a problem, ok i think he > would be ok, esp with me and Anett there, but its a valid point they raised. you should try a short trip closer to home, a weekend perhaps, to a place he doesn't know but at least he'll know the language and perhaps be able to read the signs. a trial run would be wise. > On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:24:08 GMT in alt.support.alzheimers, > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > a trial run would be wise. Hes had a few trips recently with the family and done ok, its just a case if his son gets him a passport. He doesnt get confused, hes ok in that way so that doesnt worry me. Best of luck with that... sounds interesting. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and never spoke about it much... I only know bits of what's been told by my Uncle and Mother. I look forward to reading what you post regarding this when it happens. All the best. Neil. "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > Well hopefully in Sept. i thought it would be good if we can goto Belgium so > he can see where his father fought in WW1. Spoke to Anett about it and shes [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Saw him today. had dinner, i had just walked the dog first, he was wet and > smelly (dog not granddad) and happy. > Best of luck with that... sounds interesting. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > All the best. we dont know much what my great granddad did although i have his 3 medals here over my fireplace. If i do get to take him i will take some snaps also > Neil. > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > and > > smelly (dog not granddad) and happy. "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > Well hopefully in Sept. i thought it would be good if we can goto Belgium so > he can see where his father fought in WW1. Spoke to Anett about it and shes [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Saw him today. had dinner, i had just walked the dog first, he was wet and > smelly (dog not granddad) and happy. My wife recently took my MIL with dementia to my MIL's own daughter's funeral in another state. The MIL was very confused the entire time she was gone because she was out of her comfort zone in our home. She didn't know why they were there, didn't recognize anyone but my wife and when told again why they were there, she naturally became very sad - until she again forgot everything and the process started over. Now's she's back home and doesn't remember going, the funeral or that her daughter has passed away. Dementia's a cruel bitch. AW > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Dementia's > a cruel bitch. AW Absolutely. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > > message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Absolutely. > -- I spoke to my dad, he didnt have any concerns about me taking him and spoke to my ex who knew him, and she also works with people in various stages etc and she said he would be ok, my dad did say when in Scotland he wanderd off but that was because he likes exploring and learning new things, so if i do take him me and Anett will have to watch him. I will ask him this week if he wants to go. BTW last night the in local pub i borrowed a digi cam and print out in large letters I LOVE YOU. i sent it to Anett earlier while we was talking on the fone and she laughed and really liked it. If anyone wants to see the pic jsut email me direct, ok its a bit imature but i miss her and i dont mind telling people and sharing that. > Best Regards, > Evelyn > > (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:%AWxe.773$d75.530@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > I spoke to my dad, he didnt have any concerns about me taking him and > spoke [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > jsut email me direct, ok its a bit imature but i miss her and i dont mind > telling people and sharing that. Julian, I am very happy for you. You deserve a loving companion. We all do! :-) SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:%AWxe.773$d75.530@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > :-) > -- thanks. Spoke to her mother earlier and told her i was going over in a couple of weeks but not to tell Anett. She says maybe her brother pick me up if i go by air and take me to the town where she is.. She has to work in the week so i have a few days of exploring. Poland is 15 miles aways so i can stock up on cheep cigs!! > Best Regards, > Evelyn > > (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > "Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales" <julianhales@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:WXUwe.17765$G2.9749@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > remember going, the funeral or that her daughter has passed away. Dementia's > a cruel bitch. AW I have never seen him get confused, hes even met her family and when i arranged a leaving party which he went in a cab too he was fine, happy as larry. |
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