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Boydette - 20 Jun 2005 19:08 GMT
My sis has control over mom and dads money and lately I have been
noticing and hearing that she is abusing the privilege

Dont get me wrong I am not about money never have been but my parents
are still very much ALIVE and on SS so the amount is minimal but so are
their bills.. the point of her controlling it was so it could be saved
for a time when we may need it for emergenices and or funeral
arrangements

She told me a couple weeks ago when  was complaining I needed new
glasses that I should go get them and she would pay for them out of
their money.  Her words were"They never did anything for us as kids so
its about time"...I really appreciated it but I also felt guilty...I
told her I would try and pay it back and she told me not to worry about
it...when I pressed her as to how much is in the bank and she finally
told me and it was way less than it should be....I didnt question it at
the time but I have been stewing over it for weeks....it made me think
that was why she was so generous with my glasses etc....she is trying to
ease her own conscience cause she is spending it as she pleases

Then my kids were telling me she was at the bar and ordered drinks for
the house on my dad...HER words...and they said she wrote a check on
dads money....now THAT pissed me off!!!

First my dad did this himself and hence that is why no money was saved.
The whole object of her taking control since he is now in a nursing home
and mom is having "memory" problems etc that at least they werent gonna
be able to "drink it up"....I finally confronted her and we had a big
fight and she told me its none of my business and if I didnt trust her
to take care of it then dont ask for any.....WHATEVER....now I dont know
what to do .....she is refusing my calls and emails and has basically
told me to go you know what myself

I have no one to turn to on this issue since its just her and I...so
should I just let it go or should I try and intervene...One problem is I
am bipolar and I KNOW if I try to take her to court or anything she is
gonna bring this up to show I am not capable of handling the funds...I
just dont think its right and I am just sick about it

Any suggestions???

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Evelyn Ruut - 21 Jun 2005 00:30 GMT
Hi Boydette,

I notice no one else has replied to your questions either, and I was really
at a loss to give any advice on it.   If you take the money your sister
offers, you become as "guilty" as she is of misuse of the funds.   If you
don't, she grabs it all for herself.   Not a good thing either way.

This is not to mention that you need every person in your life for emotional
support, and being at odds with your sister isn't good for you either.

You might want to scare her by letting her know that if she is managing the
money, if it comes time for your  mom to go on Medicaid that they examine
your books, and want to see every expenditure.   It COULD possibly hold up
placement to a facility when your mom most needs it.

What I would suggest is that you try and just give it some time and hope
your sister gets a clue that she isn't kidding anyone, which I kind of think
she realizes, now that you refused her offer on the glasses.

If you pressed the issue too much it may make the situation much worse and
your sister might be totally out of your life or something like that, which
might be unfortunate for you.

But her misuse of the money is something I hate to see her get away with.

It is a real catch 22 situation and I see no good solutions.

Signature

Best Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')

> My sis has control over mom and dads money and lately I have been
> noticing and hearing that she is abusing the privilege
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
John Inzer - 21 Jun 2005 02:05 GMT
Hi Boydette,

Just wondering...if your dad is in
a nursing home...how does your
sister control the SS funds? And
who cares for your mom...or is she
still living alone?

Signature

John Inzer

> My sis has control over mom and dads money and lately I have been
> noticing and hearing that she is abusing the privilege
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Dennis P. Harris - 21 Jun 2005 05:00 GMT
> I have no one to turn to on this issue since its just her and I...so
> should I just let it go or should I try and intervene...One problem is I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Any suggestions???

yes, report her to your adult protective services office.  they
are required by their federal funding to investigate if there is
a credible report of this kind of abuse.

you should ask them to go to court and ask to have a conservator
appointed.  it may be best for you if it's *not* you, but someone
appointed by the court, since your sister is apparently abusing
the POA.

don't let her loan to you buy you off.  if i didn't actually know
the true source of the money loaned to me, i would start repaying
it as quickly as possible *with interest* and report her
suspicious behavior.
Tumbleweed - 21 Jun 2005 08:35 GMT
> My sis has control over mom and dads money and lately I have been
> noticing and hearing that she is abusing the privilege
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> that was why she was so generous with my glasses etc....she is trying to
> ease her own conscience cause she is spending it as she pleases

<snip>

there is a story in my local paper about soemone who has been sent to jail
for a similar set of offences.

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Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

Steve...has tiger firmly by tail - 21 Jun 2005 09:24 GMT
Well, Boydette you have opened a real can of worms,
All families are different.
When Mom died, Sis split up the estate, paid me a lump sum, and
parceled it out over 2 years to brother. Dad was still very sharp 3
years ago when he put me on "the account" He didn't plan ahead, so most
of Dad's property will be forfeited at sometime. In the mean-time,
everytime that my brother (who always needs money) pisses me off, I
write my sister a check, for the same amount. She thinks it is funny as
all heck and I think it helps keep me honest.
So why don't you accept the glasses? Enjoy them and know that it is
better spent this way than to buy the bar a round of drinks.
r d - 22 Jun 2005 05:39 GMT
If your parents were in Colorado, they could be declared (after
examination) by the court as "protected people."  The person appointed
conservator would have to make quarterly reports to the court on their
finances and account for all expenditures.

Be sure and document everything that happens.

Pay the money back for the glasses as fast as you can.  Your sister
sounds like she may be trying to maneuver you into a "dirty hands"
position in case the matter should ever go to court, i.e., "My sister
can't complain about what I do with Mom and Dad's money.  She spends it,
too."

http://community.webtv.net/Dalesdomain/CatchMyFancy
Boydette - 22 Jun 2005 05:56 GMT
Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
direct deposited into an account (HIS) sis goes in and writes a check to
HERSELF and puts it in a separate account....she goes and gets moms
check  which still comes in the mail...mom signs it and she deposits it
then writes checks for the bills......my parents have NO assets...no
insurance no savings no property etc......I let my sister take control
cause I trusted her cause she has always had a good head for business
etc....I did let her pay for my glasses but I asked my mom if that would
be okay and she said yes.... but course I know she aint gonna remember
that I am sure....mom is still living on her own and getting worse day
by day as she is alone all the time...the idea was to just let the chips
fall where they may and deal with what we had to deal with when the time
came.....now I am thinking since my sister did this once she may be
doing it all the time....I told her she had no right and so now she is
ignoring me....I dont know what to do now but geeeeezzzz yall are
scaring me...am I in trouble???

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Lee - 22 Jun 2005 06:33 GMT
over one thing, I wouldn't think so ....   definitely want to make a point
of not being a party to anything ongoing of that sort that your sister might
do though .... and of course, document anything and everything that you know
of as it happens ... never know when it might come in handy ... and if you
never need it, what have you lost by having kept notes? just a bit of time

> Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
> answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
John Inzer - 22 Jun 2005 06:57 GMT
I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult
an attorney.

I don't understand about your dad...in my
state (Georgia) if someone is in a nursing home
with essentially no assets...the SS money must
be paid to them. The patient can keep a small
allowance each month for personals. Rosie's
account, for example...was credited $30 per
month. The remainder of the money goes to
the nursing home. Permanent residents of a
nursing home must also have Medicaid because
Medicare pays only a portion of the expenses.

As for your mother's funds... the way you have
described it...I'm thinking that's between her
and anyone she chooses to trust. IMHO...this
needs to be sorted out by an attorney...preferably
one who specializes in Elder Law.

And I strongly suggest that you return any money
you have received from the SS funds and get a
receipt for it.

Signature

John Inzer

> Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
> answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Lee - 22 Jun 2005 07:05 GMT
seems unlikely that sis would give a reciept for it... think I'd pay it back
by paying something, on your parents behalf, that you COULD get a receipt
for ... a bill, or buying them something they need, or.....

> I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult
> an attorney.
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>>
>> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Lee - 22 Jun 2005 07:10 GMT
honestly though, I wouldn't lose sleep over it....  I don't think you did
anything 'wrong' really ... the problem is that your sister IS apparently
doing something wrong... and was quite likely trying to suck you in so that
you can't say a word about it later....   so it's worth ~fixing~ as quickly
as you reasonably can .... but not worth worrying yourself sick about

> seems unlikely that sis would give a reciept for it... think I'd pay it
> back by paying something, on your parents behalf, that you COULD get a
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>>>
>>> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Boydette - 24 Jun 2005 01:10 GMT
BING BING BING...give that man a prize...you hit the nail on the
head....when she was all of a sudden so "generous" I figured she was
just trying to ease her conscience for spending on herself etc...NOW
since I called her on it she isnt speaking to me and told me if I didnt
like the way she spent their money then dont ask for
any...whatever...shes a total beotch and always has been....BTW I am the
oldest and she is the baby...need I say more????LOL

Re: The money issue  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 2:10am (CDT+1)
From: sleeplessinwherever@hotmail.com (Lee)
honestly though, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.... I don't think you did
anything 'wrong' really ... the problem is that your sister IS
apparently doing something wrong... and was quite likely trying to suck
you in so that you can't say a word about it later....   so it's worth
~fixing~ as quickly as you reasonably can .... but not worth worrying
yourself sick about
"Lee" <sleeplessinwherever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UdadnX_gm9w-YiXfRVn-uw@rogers.com...
seems unlikely that sis would give a reciept for it... think I'd pay it
back by paying something, on your parents behalf, that you COULD get a
receipt for ... a bill, or buying them something they need, or.....
"John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
news:jO2dna44ZJUjYCXfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult an attorney.
I don't understand about your dad...in my state (Georgia) if someone is
in a nursing home with essentially no assets...the SS money must be paid
to them. The patient can keep a small allowance each month for
personals. Rosie's account, for example...was credited $30 per month.
The remainder of the money goes to the nursing home. Permanent residents
of a nursing home must also have Medicaid because Medicare pays only a
portion of the expenses.
As for your mother's funds... the way you have described it...I'm
thinking that's between her and anyone she chooses to trust. IMHO...this
needs to be sorted out by an attorney...preferably one who specializes
in Elder Law.
And I strongly suggest that you return any money you have received from
the SS funds and get a receipt for it.
Signature

John Inzer
"Boydette" <bdetrs@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17847-42B8EF65-1285@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
direct deposited into an account (HIS) sis goes in and writes a check to
HERSELF and puts it in a separate account....she goes and gets moms
check which still comes in the mail...mom signs it and she deposits it
then writes checks for the bills......my parents have NO assets...no
insurance no savings no property etc......I let my sister take control
cause I trusted her cause she has always had a good head for business
etc....I did let her pay for my glasses but I asked my mom if that would
be okay and she said yes.... but course I know she aint gonna remember
that I am sure....mom is still living on her own and getting worse day
by day as she is alone all the time...the idea was to just let the chips
fall where they may and deal with what we had to deal with when the time
came.....now I am thinking since my sister did this once she may be
doing it all the time....I told her she had no right and so now she is
ignoring me....I dont know what to do now but geeeeezzzz yall are
scaring me...am I in trouble???
Maxine says:
Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?
Hank Hill says:
I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

John Inzer - 22 Jun 2005 07:31 GMT
> seems unlikely that sis would give a reciept for it...
=======================================
Pay with a Check or a Money Order made
out to the mother/father and also document
the payment by making a Xerox copy.

Signature

John Inzer

Gwen Love - 22 Jun 2005 19:37 GMT
John, when my daq went into a nursing home in Decatur, GA, his SS check
still came to me and I paid the NH all except the amount he was allowed to
keep.  It could have been sent to the nursing home, but I had the choice.
That was in 1988; it may have changed since then.
Gwen

> I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult
> an attorney.
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> >
> > I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Evelyn Ruut - 22 Jun 2005 19:51 GMT
> John, when my daq went into a nursing home in Decatur, GA, his SS check
> still came to me and I paid the NH all except the amount he was allowed to
> keep.  It could have been sent to the nursing home, but I had the choice.
> That was in 1988; it may have changed since then.
> Gwen

It is the same now, Gwen.   That is what we did with Ida's SS check and the
nursing home.

Signature

Best Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')

John Inzer - 22 Jun 2005 20:17 GMT
> John, when my daq went into a nursing home in Decatur, GA, his SS check
> still came to me and I paid the NH all except the amount he was allowed to
> keep.  It could have been sent to the nursing home, but I had the choice.
> That was in 1988; it may have changed since then.
> Gwen
==================================
Hi Gwen,

Still the same. As I said, the SS money...with the
exception of a small allowance goes to the NH.

We also had the option of receiving the checks
but we chose to have the check sent directly to
the NH since the money is theirs anyway. Sorry
if I was unclear on that.

Signature

John Inzer

Boydette - 24 Jun 2005 01:12 GMT
Oh I failed to mention my dad is also on medicaid and is enrolled in
hospice...as long as my mom is still "OUT" on her own the SS checks keep
coming...when mom goes in the home that will go to the home...right now
my sis is paying a 35 dollar a month copay for my dad since Medicare and
Medicaid are picking up the rest of the bill

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Boydette - 24 Jun 2005 01:08 GMT
John...in the state I am in if only one of the two is in a nursing home
the funds are not taken while the other spouse is still on their
own...when mom goes then yeah all SS income will go to the home...and I
HAVE NOT taken anything from their money...the checks came from my
sisters account...as for an attorney that isnt even an option...we are
all po folks over here...thanks for your input though...B


Re: The money issue  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 1:57am (CDT+1)
From: oobie@doobie.xyz (John Inzer)
I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult an attorney.
I don't understand about your dad...in my state (Georgia) if someone is
in a nursing home with essentially no assets...the SS money must be paid
to them. The patient can keep a small allowance each month for
personals. Rosie's account, for example...was credited $30 per month.
The remainder of the money goes to the nursing home. Permanent residents
of a nursing home must also have Medicaid because Medicare pays only a
portion of the expenses.
As for your mother's funds... the way you have described it...I'm
thinking that's between her and anyone she chooses to trust. IMHO...this
needs to be sorted out by an attorney...preferably one who specializes
in Elder Law.
And I strongly suggest that you return any money you have received from
the SS funds and get a receipt for it.
Signature

John Inzer
"Boydette" <bdetrs@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17847-42B8EF65-1285@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
direct deposited into an account (HIS) sis goes in and writes a check to
HERSELF and puts it in a separate account....she goes and gets moms
check which still comes in the mail...mom signs it and she deposits it
then writes checks for the bills......my parents have NO assets...no
insurance no savings no property etc......I let my sister take control
cause I trusted her cause she has always had a good head for business
etc....I did let her pay for my glasses but I asked my mom if that would
be okay and she said yes.... but course I know she aint gonna remember
that I am sure....mom is still living on her own and getting worse day
by day as she is alone all the time...the idea was to just let the chips
fall where they may and deal with what we had to deal with when the time
came.....now I am thinking since my sister did this once she may be
doing it all the time....I told her she had no right and so now she is
ignoring me....I dont know what to do now but geeeeezzzz yall are
scaring me...am I in trouble???
Maxine says:
Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?
Hank Hill says:
I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

John Inzer - 24 Jun 2005 03:31 GMT
That clarifies the issue...I had no experience with
both mom and dad being involved at the same time.
I did not know the dad's SS money went to the mom
instead of the NH if she was still on her own. It's
nice to know that...thanks.

I would still suggest that you return the funds and
get a receipt.

Signature

John Inzer

John...in the state I am in if only one of the two is in a nursing home
the funds are not taken while the other spouse is still on their
own...when mom goes then yeah all SS income will go to the home...and I
HAVE NOT taken anything from their money...the checks came from my
sisters account...as for an attorney that isnt even an option...we are
all po folks over here...thanks for your input though...B

Re: The money issue

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 1:57am (CDT+1)
From: oobie@doobie.xyz (John Inzer)
I'm thinking it may be a good time to consult an attorney.
I don't understand about your dad...in my state (Georgia) if someone is
in a nursing home with essentially no assets...the SS money must be paid
to them. The patient can keep a small allowance each month for
personals. Rosie's account, for example...was credited $30 per month.
The remainder of the money goes to the nursing home. Permanent residents
of a nursing home must also have Medicaid because Medicare pays only a
portion of the expenses.
As for your mother's funds... the way you have described it...I'm
thinking that's between her and anyone she chooses to trust. IMHO...this
needs to be sorted out by an attorney...preferably one who specializes
in Elder Law.
And I strongly suggest that you return any money you have received from
the SS funds and get a receipt for it.
Signature

John Inzer
"Boydette" <bdetrs@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17847-42B8EF65-1285@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
Ok I am responding in unison to all posts and yall are scaring me.....to
answer a few questions...sis has power of attorney and dads check is
direct deposited into an account (HIS) sis goes in and writes a check to
HERSELF and puts it in a separate account....she goes and gets moms
check which still comes in the mail...mom signs it and she deposits it
then writes checks for the bills......my parents have NO assets...no
insurance no savings no property etc......I let my sister take control
cause I trusted her cause she has always had a good head for business
etc....I did let her pay for my glasses but I asked my mom if that would
be okay and she said yes.... but course I know she aint gonna remember
that I am sure....mom is still living on her own and getting worse day
by day as she is alone all the time...the idea was to just let the chips
fall where they may and deal with what we had to deal with when the time
came.....now I am thinking since my sister did this once she may be
doing it all the time....I told her she had no right and so now she is
ignoring me....I dont know what to do now but geeeeezzzz yall are
scaring me...am I in trouble???
Maxine says:
Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?
Hank Hill says:
I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem

Frederick G Young - 23 Jun 2005 00:21 GMT
Boydette,
               There are one or two things that your sister should have
brought to her attention.
   First as the administrator of a Durable Power of Attorney she has
certain duties and responsibililities with which she must conform, in the
much the same way an executor of a will must conform. These are known as
"Fiduciary Responsibilities" and duties. Basically any one who acts on
behalf of another, with the authorization of the other must act in the best
interest of the person who granted them the authority. Drinks all round
wouldn't fall in that category.

As a check on my own opinion I went to the net and ran a check on "Power of
Attorney Fuduciary Responsibilities." The best hit that came up was
http://www.rclaw.com/fiduciary_duties_responsibilities.htm

   If you take a copy of this and present it to her, plus reminding her
that two senior company officers of a large company were just sentenced to
20 and 30 years in jail respectively for similar conduct, albeit on a
grander scale, it might have the desired effect. The Courts don't take
kindly to those with fiduciary responsibilities helping themselves to the
money of the weak and helpless.  Your sister may not realize she is wading
in deep water. This might do it.

Good Luck,
Frederick

> My sis has control over mom and dads money and lately I have been
> noticing and hearing that she is abusing the privilege
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Gwen Love - 23 Jun 2005 02:04 GMT
Frederick, how nice to see you post; it has been a very long time.  How
about bringing us up to dae on everything happening in your life and your
wife's these days.  I have wondered about you two so many times.
Gwen

> Boydette,
>                 There are one or two things that your sister should have
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
> >
> > I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Ruth - 23 Jun 2005 02:50 GMT
I'll second that, Frederick!  Please give us an update.  I'll post an update
for Larry and me in a couple of days.  We did the driving license suspension
deed today and it's taken the stuffing out of me.  Ruth

> Frederick, how nice to see you post; it has been a very long time.  How
> about bringing us up to dae on everything happening in your life and your
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
>> >
>> > I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Frederick G Young - 23 Jun 2005 07:29 GMT
   I can sum things up with just one sentence. "Life goes on" June has
settled in at the nursing home very well and doesn't know any other life
exists. Her condition continues to deteriorate but very slowly. She cannot
put a sentence together, and it is as if she loses the thought that the
sentence would become, before it can be delivered. She seems to have a small
stock of replies in response to things like "how are you", but beyond that
the conversation stops. She is in a wheel chair most of the time except when
they walk her every weekday. I couldn't ask for much better treatment than
she is receiving, and when I am with her I try to make as much fuss of her
as I can.  The more I see of the people who have to take care of AZ patients
the more I admire them. It's one hell of a job, and it takes special people
to be able to do it. June is completely incontinent now and does not use the
bathroom. She is toiletted in a commode at the bedside. Apart from the
mental condition and her inability to maintain vertical equilibrium, her
health at 83 is quite good.
   As for my life. I have been getting rid of an awful amount of house
hoarded items collected over almost 60 years of married life, in preparation
for selling the house and land. The bionic hip still seems to be performing
well in spite of all the lifting and pushing that I do. While down south for
a couple of months this winter I started to have some angina sensations. Not
pain, but pressure on the chest and breathlessness when I exerted myself.
On a cruise to Panama out of Galveston I was dancing up a storm one evening
and I suddenly found that I was definitely running out of steam. I went
ashore at Montego Bay, Jamaica, and consulted a cardiologist and he said I
definitely had some coronary constriction and to take it  a little easier
until I got back to Wisconsin for an angiogram. Shortened story.... I had
the angiogram on 17 March and they found a 90% blockage on one branch of one
coronary artery. So they put a stent in and I am now reborn. I walk 2 miles
a day about 5 days a week, not because I like it but because I have to keep
blood flushing through the stent and prevent restenosis ( blocking up
again). I guess I was lucky it didn't block off completely. That might have
caused some permanent damage, but it looks as if I have avoided that. The
cardiac surgeon said the rest of the plumbing was in good shape. I feel very
lucky to live in an age when such running maintenance is possible. Stents
seem to be taking over from bypass operations unless the constriction or
blockage is extensive. Certainly better than the trauma of a bypass
operation and the risk of losing ones marbles from the anesthesia.
I'm 81 this July 29th.
   I go to see June once a month and usually stay about five days. It's a
500 mile one way trip. The visits can be very tedious, but I try to make the
best of it. I can still make her laugh, and we still dance as we have done
all our life, although I do the cavorting and wheel her around and about in
her wheel chair holding both her hands. Actually it's quite effective with a
little imagination, so long as you don't mind the sacrifice of dignity,
never one of my strong suits.
   So as I said at the opening, "Life goes on" except that I have two
lives. The one I have when I am with June, and the one I have when I am not
with her. The second maintains my health, both mental and physical, and
provides a reason to stay alive. I try to make a success of each one while
maintaining their separation. So far it seems to work. I'm even learning
Spanish. My family seem to approve, and as my youngest son said "If you are
happy Dad, it will show when you see Mum and she will also benefit". In
short I can feel good and enjoy what is left. After 60 years June will
always have an honored place inside me, but the fact remains that our lives
now are separate. I strongly recommend to anyone with a spouse suffering
from AZ which might go on for many years, don't let it destroy two lives. It
need not, so long as the well being and care of the afflicted one is up
front, and not affected by the life of the unafflicted one.

So that's it.  As you see I occasionally look in at the user group to see if
there is anything on which I can help.

Best regards to all
Frederick
> Frederick, how nice to see you post; it has been a very long time.  How
> about bringing us up to dae on everything happening in your life and your
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> > >
> > > I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Dennis P. Harris - 23 Jun 2005 10:03 GMT
> I walk 2 miles
> a day about 5 days a week, not because I like it but because I have to keep
> blood flushing through the stent and prevent restenosis ( blocking up
> again).

glad to hear that you are doing so well, and that june is in good
hands.  you might consider cycling instead of walking.  it's just
as aerobic but much easier on the joints --- the secret is to
gear down and spin up, keeping your cadence at around 90 rpm.
Frederick G Young - 23 Jun 2005 15:52 GMT
Dennis,
           I have a Schwinn  exercise bike that I use if it is raining. The
only kind that I found felt like riding a bike. I biked for about twenty
years until I decided that the risk exceeded the benefit. Partly because of
the homicidal tendency of some drivers, and partly because the benefit of
the exercise was offset by the inhalation of the fumes in the city. I think
the bike messengers in Newyork use filter respirators for the same reason. I
have a tandem in the garage that hasn't been between anyone's knees for
about 20 years. To my shame I bought one of those bicycle assist electric
motors and fitted it to an El Cheapo Wal-Mart trail bike. I've used it a few
times and it's quite fun. Not pedaling I can get up to about 20 mph, but the
range is not too good. I had it on the tandem for a while to increase the
geriatric range of June and myself.
   I agree. Cycling is an excellent exercise if you do it in the right
place, preferably on country lanes, of which we have many in Wisconsin
almost all paved. You get to hear and smell the country and have time to see
things that interest you.  I remember the first time June and I rode
together. It was in our fifties. We came across a lamb that had managed to
get through the fence and couldn't get back into the field. I stopped,
picked him up, and put him back with his Mum. You could live to be a
thousand driving a car and never experience that.
Regards
Frederick

> > I walk 2 miles
> > a day about 5 days a week, not because I like it but because I have to keep
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> as aerobic but much easier on the joints --- the secret is to
> gear down and spin up, keeping your cadence at around 90 rpm.
Gwen Love - 23 Jun 2005 17:47 GMT
Frederick, thanks so much for the update.  It seems you are handiling
everything the best possible way for you and for June.  Do keep us posted
occasionally, please.  In the meantime, enjoy your second life.
Gwen

>     I can sum things up with just one sentence. "Life goes on" June has
> settled in at the nursing home very well and doesn't know any other life
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> > > >
> > > > I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
Boydette - 24 Jun 2005 02:12 GMT
HEHE Frederick I am emailing her this post if its okay with you...I will
remove your addy etc...let me know cause I wont do it til you say its
okay...thanks B

Maxine says:

Ever notice that the very people that tell you to calm down are the ones
that got you mad in the first place?

Hank Hill says:

I dont have an anger problem... I have an idiot problem
 
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