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3 weeks and good adjustment to assisted living for Mom

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meg - 15 Jun 2005 05:13 GMT
After thinking I could not survive my mother's move to assisted living,
especially because I'm not crazy about the facility, I am absolutely
surprised at how well she has adjusted.  She is starting to make some
aquaintences, goes to exercise every day, we've hired a walking partner
for her, and this weekend my mother and I cleaned up the facility patio
and planted flowers pots.  During the work on the patio, several
residents came out to keep us company and seemed excited by the
activity.  I think she'd still rather be with family, especially for
meals, and we continue to spend quite a lot of time with her, but she
feels safe at the facility.  A couple of times I've called her up after
dinner and she's been in a great mood because of her dinner companions.
I'm also surprised to see her help other residents who have greater
disabilities than herself, I've never seen this compassionate side of
my mother.

The progression of ALZ marches onward, she is increasingly confused
about which child I am, has delusions about her last husband, and
recently about my father who died 30 years ago, still has difficulty
finding her apt. and is becomming increasingly incontinent, but is
generally doing much better than I ever anticipated.  The move did not
even precipitate a big cognitive decline as I expected.  I suspect the
reason why she's done so well is that despite being a flaming liberal
(now in a conservative religous setting.... go figure), she's also a
true conformist, she likes following the rules, having a schedule, and
being a "good girl", even more so since ALZ.

Just thought I'd pass this update on to all those considering assisted
living for their loved ones.  ALZ is such a terrible way to go, and I
find it so depressing to read about the progression of the disease;
despite it all, there can be pleasant surprises from time to time.
Evelyn Ruut - 15 Jun 2005 11:45 GMT
> After thinking I could not survive my mother's move to assisted living,
> especially because I'm not crazy about the facility, I am absolutely
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> find it so depressing to read about the progression of the disease;
> despite it all, there can be pleasant surprises from time to time.

Dear Meg,

I am so happy to hear that!   Ida adapted right away too, but she was much
more impaired than your mom sounds, by the time we placed her.

I actually think it might be better in some ways, to go in sooner, for the
very reason you mention..... being able to participate in all the
activities.  Every time we went to see her there was something going on, but
she wasn't interested or able to really enjoy it much.
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Gwen Love - 15 Jun 2005 19:22 GMT
Meg, so nice to read your good report.  The unexpected good things that
happen do make life a little easier.
Gwen

> After thinking I could not survive my mother's move to assisted living,
> especially because I'm not crazy about the facility, I am absolutely
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> find it so depressing to read about the progression of the disease;
> despite it all, there can be pleasant surprises from time to time.
Florence A - 15 Jun 2005 19:40 GMT
I am so happy things turned out so well.
My husband is now in his 4th week at AL facility.
I did this as respite, for 2 months..  I was falling apart at the seams
(my dear mother's phrase)  I think I should have tried this much
earlier..I am surprised he adjusted so well...and so have I.  I must
admit much of this time I did a lot of sleeping..(when I want)...Eating
(when I  want)  not amusing or being exasperated with trying to keep him
entertained..

We have had many [of the 56] good years together---but somehow it's the
"now years" that gets to you.  

I think Don seems reasonably happy with the going ons about him, his
entertainment-- though forgotten immediately..He's a nice man.

I admit I did not know {12 yrs ago] what AL , NH-or lock unit was. Now
know whatever it's name, it's all about how LO fits into a particular
facility..  
This place is called an AL--But as respite they provided everything...no
moving of  belongings etc....he doesn't know any of that anyway...so it
was easier..

Thanks for listening..sorry this is so long..
Perhaps it might help someone.

Sometimes another's posting has helped me to look at and consider
alternatives..

Florence
meg - 19 Jun 2005 18:34 GMT
Florence,

I'm glad to hear of you're success with assisted living for your
husband and that you're getting the rest you need.  Will your husband
be moving back with you?  My mother was pretty indpendent untill 4
months ago then took a big decline.  I have been caring for her for
those 4 months with lots of respite from my sibblings and home health.
It was exhausting and I'm an energetic 47 YO.  I'm amazed at people who
find the strength to care for their loved ones, long term.  It's hard
to see my mother decline, but I imagine it would be worlds more
difficult with a spouse.  My thoughts are with you.

Meg
Songbird - 15 Jun 2005 23:35 GMT
Meg --

Thanks for posting this today. I went to look at an AL near me (less than
two miles) this afternoon with the idea that if Dad had died in his accident
last week, I would need an immediate placement for Mom. As she she
progresses, they might both move together there. (This place has independent
and assisted all together). And Dad is deadset against being separated from
her.

Although I know and trust the executive director there and have visited
several facilities, I came away depressed, I suppose because it seems more
of a reality now. How could *my* parents ever fit in with *these* people? It
did not help that two of their more rambunctious residents were having an
argument in the entry hall. The rooms seem even smaller than I remember,
though light-filled and clean.

The good news is I broached the idea to my dad today and although he did not
embrace it, he did not turn combative over it. He has been very ornery since
wreck (I chalk it up to pain and fear) but today was gentle as a lamb. Did
not even protest when doc told him two more weeks at least before he can
drive. (I would have hugged the doc, but it would have embarrassed him!)

Songbird

> After thinking I could not survive my mother's move to assisted living,
> especially because I'm not crazy about the facility, I am absolutely
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> find it so depressing to read about the progression of the disease;
> despite it all, there can be pleasant surprises from time to time.
meg - 19 Jun 2005 18:23 GMT
Good luck Songbird,

I have viewed lots of facilities and they can be depressing.  Once you
hang out in one for a few days the unfamiliar and uncomfortable seem to
normalize.     The one thing I wish my family would have investigated
further for the facility my mother is in now is staff training.  I
don't know that the staff that works with my mother has enough training
for working with dementia.  Although my mother is adjusting much better
than I thought she would,  I have my concerns about some of the staff
interactions with her.  Most of the staff are great.

I don't know if you're parents have an active social life.  My Mother
is quite shy but really enjoys socializing and I think the ALF has been
good for her in that area.  Before, she was so dependent on myself and
my sibblings for all social activities.   I get the impression that
people bond quickly in residential facilities, probably because they
share common burdens i.e. health issues, old age, dementia.  The move
is so hard, but in our case the only thing our family could do.... and
the right thing to do.  I still worry about her constantly, but that's
my nature.  I think the worry will fade a bit with time.  I wish we had
the money to care for her like Ronald Reagan must have been cared for,
or at the very least I wish we had enough money that we weren't limited
to facilities that accept medicaid.

Meg
Songbird - 15 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT
Meg --

Thanks for posting this today. I went to look at an AL near me (less than
two miles) this afternoon with the idea that if Dad had died in his accident
last week, I would need an immediate placement for Mom. As she she
progresses, they might both move together there. (This place has independent
and assisted all together). And Dad is deadset against being separated from
her.

Although I know and trust the executive director there and have visited
several facilities, I came away depressed, I suppose because it seems more
of a reality now. How could *my* parents ever fit in with *these* people? It
did not help that two of their more rambunctious residents were having an
argument in the entry hall. The rooms seem even smaller than I remember,
though light-filled and clean.

The good news is I broached the idea to my dad today and although he did not
embrace it, he did not turn combative over it. He has been very ornery since
wreck (I chalk it up to pain and fear) but today was gentle as a lamb. Did
not even protest when doc told him two more weeks at least before he can
drive. (I would have hugged the doc, but it would have embarrassed him!)

Songbird

> After thinking I could not survive my mother's move to assisted living,
> especially because I'm not crazy about the facility, I am absolutely
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> find it so depressing to read about the progression of the disease;
> despite it all, there can be pleasant surprises from time to time.
Pattycake - 16 Jun 2005 15:55 GMT
Meg,

I'm so glad it's working out for your mom. It sounds like it is a good
placement for her and also for you.

You mentioned dinner time and I know from working in an AL that meals are a
very important part of what we do for our residents.  It's a time when they
can have social interaction with other residents and also with staff.  We
eat with our residents, and it's something I enjoy immensely.  Our mealtime
conversations are interesting and definitely entertaining. You wouldn't
believe the subjects that come up.

There are some people that come in very anxious and half of the time that's
because they feel the anxiety of the family.  Almost always after a few days
they are settled in and enjoying the environment and the other residents.

Again, I'm so happy for you and for your mom.

Best to you,
Patty
meg - 19 Jun 2005 18:06 GMT
Pattycake,

You sound like a wonderful caregiver and have found a good place to
work.  I wish my mom could live where you work and that everyone in
your profession was so outstanding.  There are some nice people where
my mom now lives, but I don't know that they have the skill and
training that you have.  One care provider is generally ill-tempered
and abrupt, even more so with my mother, since she took over the care
of the flower pots on the patio which is that caregiver's domain.  I'm
very reactionary and want to confront this woman, but I have decided to
wait and see if things work out without my interference.  I'm worried
my family will be tagged as trouble makers if I complain too much and
don't want any repercussions for my mother.    I already got staff
members scolded when I found out my Mom had a diarrhea accident in the
middle of the night, called for help, and the aide told her she
couldn't help her.

I work, with children b-5.  We have the same dilemma with that age
group.  Some people are remarkably skilled, seek educational
opportunities and enjoy the children and their job.  Others are in it
because it's one of the few jobs they could get and they aren't able to
understand the complexity of working with young children.

Meg
Dennis P. Harris - 19 Jun 2005 21:03 GMT
> I'm worried
> my family will be tagged as trouble makers if I complain too much and
> don't want any repercussions for my mother.    I already got staff
> members scolded when I found out my Mom had a diarrhea accident in the
> middle of the night, called for help, and the aide told her she
> couldn't help her.

if things are that bad there, you should start looking right now
for another place for her.
Bud - 20 Jun 2005 01:15 GMT
>  I'm worried
> my family will be tagged as trouble makers if I complain too much and
> don't want any repercussions for my mother.

Screw them! Are they paying YOU to take care of your mother?

   I already got staff
> members scolded when I found out my Mom had a diarrhea accident in the
> middle of the night, called for help, and the aide told her she
> couldn't help her.

And well they should have been! Be a troublemaker if you have to. And
there are state agencies up the line to which you can complain if things
aren't done properly.

Sorry for the extreme reaction but I am a doctor and my wife, thank
goodness, is in a nice institution but even good places make errors and
poor care-takers have no place in ANY institution. Be sure and document
in writing times and details of any perceived mis-handling of your Mom
just in case. My 2 cents worth and end of rant.

Bud
Evelyn Ruut - 20 Jun 2005 01:20 GMT
>>  I'm worried
>> my family will be tagged as trouble makers if I complain too much and
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>
> Bud

I agree with Bud.
The squeaky wheel does get the grease.
Being silent about it won't help.
People are supposed to do their jobs right.
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meg - 20 Jun 2005 05:22 GMT
Thanks Bud and Evelyn for the encouragement to express my concerns.  I
don't expect any place to be perfect, but do expect my mother to be
treated with kindness and courtesy.

I will be the squeaky wheel and  will definitly document any concerns.

Meg
Pattycake - 20 Jun 2005 06:20 GMT
If you feel that your mom is not getting the quality of care that you were
told she would receive when you moved her there, then definitely talk to the
Administrator.

The type of behavior that you describe is totally unacceptable. You are
paying for good care, and you need to make sure that is what you receive.

If you are still unhappy, definitely start looking around for another
facility.

One thing though, there are people who live in an AL that are delusional.
They will make accusations against a Caregiver that are completely false.
We have one poor woman right now who is positive we are poisoning her.  She
refuses to take her meds, and her delusions are becoming stronger by the
day.  Now we're not poisoning her, but in her mind, that's what she
believes.

I'm not saying this is what is happening in your mother's case, but know
that there are things that she might say are happening, that aren't really
happening.

I don't consider any family member who has complaints or concerns to be any
trouble.  Once the complaints are brought forward, then we can deal with the
problem.

If you don't get satisfaction, document everything and contact your State
Long Term Care Ombudsman and they will investigate for you.

All my best,
Patty
meg - 20 Jun 2005 14:54 GMT
Thanks Patty,

I value you're perspective since you work with people with ALZ.
Because of ALZ my mom can be a complainer and isn't always able to
accurately retell past events.  That is why, in some cases,  I'm
waiting to see if the conflict can resolve on it's own. I will
definitely document my concerns to determine if a pattern emerges and
to provide info to administration and ombudsman, if necessary.
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 20 Jun 2005 16:44 GMT
We definitely had the same problem with MIL - we always had to very
carefully investigate what she told us. Sometimes it was true, and
sometimes it wasn't.

For example, when she was still living at home with supports, it turned
out her home care person (assigned by an government funded agency, and
who was supposed to put in 4 hours daily, 5 days a week) was scamming.
She would show up, spend a very short time (keeping in mind Dolli had
no sense of time and couldn't tell time either), get Dolli to sign the
card that she'd been there, and leave. Some days she just came late,
got Dolli to sign and leave without doing a darned thing. She also
started telling Dolli tales of woe about a sick brother who needed an
operation and would Dolli lend her money. The story came out in bits
and pieces over several weeks in a very, very garbled fashion, and it
took a lot of patience, questioning and investigating to get the
picture (i.e. we'd come when the aide was supposed to be there and
she'd be gone). In this case, all I could do was call the agency and
ask for the aide to be replaced immediately. I talked to the agency
about what I thought was happening and what we'd managed to get out of
Dolli, but had to tell the agency I had no specific proof because of my
MIL's AD (i.e. you couldn't just ask her and get anything approaching a
coherant story). We needed a hidden camera.

And on the other side of the coin, a little later in AD in the first
assisted living facility, my MIL told us she was missing lunch daily -
which wasn't true, she just had no memory of it. One day my husband ate
lunch with her at the facility prior to taking her to an appointment,
and then an hour later she was complaining that she had missed lunch!
She also complained about men sexually assaulting her which really
alarmed us...but it turned out to be the short haired ladies trying to
get her bathed and dressed (we were stunned when she pointed out one of
the big nasty male perpetrators to us...little tiny friendly Italian
aide Maria). When she started having trouble with her teeth (i.e.
getting her plates and bridges in), her explanation was that bad boys
had hit her in the mouth on the way home from school, knocking out her
teeth. I think that particular garble came out of staff trying to help
her get the bridge in, which must have frightened her - she obviously
had no idea what they were trying to do.

You are doing the right thing to take it seriously - you just never
know.

Mary G.
Ronny TX - 20 Jun 2005 03:15 GMT
Meg,it's good to hear that your Mom is adjusting so well. :-) And really
nice that she still has the ability to help others. Just good reading
all you wrote about that. :-)
meg - 21 Jun 2005 05:29 GMT
Hi Ronny,

Thanks,  I read your posts regularly because I'm a chicken lover
myself, also I'm also amazed with your good care for your Mother.
I live in town and can only have a small flock, two is the limit but I
can get away with 3-5.  I currently don't have any chickens....
Raccoons.  I miss having them keep me company in the garden.   On the
other hand, my vegatables are beautiful this year because they don't
have chickens digging them up.

I hope next year things will be more settled with my mom so I can
devote more time to raising a new flock of chickens, I want one of
each!

Meg
Evelyn Ruut - 21 Jun 2005 13:28 GMT
> Hi Ronny,
>
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>
> Meg

Yesterday I went into the post office and was amazed to hear the sound of
birds chirping.   The post office lady showed us a box of baby chicks that
was waiting to be picked up by the person receiving it.  They were peeking
out of the holes in the box and "cheeping" like crazy.... so cute!
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