Hi Everybody,
I think I read it here, but someone said that statistically, incontinence
issues are the main reason why people come to feel that placement in a
nursing home is necessary. It was a factor when we placed Ida, but not the
only reason. The main reason was her lack of mobility combined with the
incontinence, combined with our nearly total exhaustion from caregiving.
Having been through it for several years, I can tell you that it can be a
difficult thing to manage. When it is simply pee, it isn't too bad, but
the other can be just awful. It tends to get everywhere.
Add to that the fact that you are usually sleep deprived, exhausted anyway,
and having to clean up yet another disastrous mess becomes just the worst
thing going.
We usually tackled such messes as a team, the both of us mobilizing in the
cleanup. One would escort her to the shower and do the washup, the other
to follow behind and clean up the bed, the room, the footprints leading to
the shower, the clothing etc.
I have NO idea whatsoever how one manages such a cleanup completely alone,
as it tends to be just everywhere.
The nursing home (where we put Ida eventually) had a bathroom that was also
like a big shower stall, with a proper long hose and a drain in the center
of the floor. It was really a practical arrangement.
Home we had a stall shower with a shower chair, and the shower head on a
hose that could lift off when needed. In any case, the nursing home was
designed far better for dealing with incontinence disasters than almost any
private home could ever be. It was designed to minimize the hands on
contact with messes, allowing the whole place, including the fixtures, to be
hosed down with the least hassle.
Also, in the nursing home they are at WORK and they go home after their
shift is over with, that it is a professional situation like in a hospital,
and that the caregivers come in fresh each shift, I can tell you it is
really not such a bad deal.
Everyone always worries about the quality and level of care they give in a
nursing home. I can assure you that having a frustrated, angry, exhausted
relative as caregiver, who is your child or child's spouse cleaning up a
poop disaster, is NOT preferable to having a professional clean up instead,
who is being paid to do it as their job and who has every convenience at
their fingertips to minimize the hassle.

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Evelyn
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John Inzer - 26 May 2005 19:17 GMT
Rosie is to the point in her AD journey
that she constantly wears diapers
and must be attended to just like she
was a baby.
When she gets her shower...she is
placed in a special chair with wheels
that has an open seat (somewhat like
a toilet seat.) This makes it easier to
bathe her without having to stand...
which she can no longer do anyway.
Almost every time they place her in the
seat....she poops. And of course it lands
on the floor or if they are fast enough they
have a bucket they use. The remains is
hosed into the drain.
You might ask why don't they take her
to the toilet before going to the shower
but it's much too hard on her.
I am amazed that anyone would take
a job in a nursing home...they must be
very special people.

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John Inzer
> Hi Everybody,
>
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> clean up instead, who is being paid to do it as their job and who has
> every convenience at their fingertips to minimize the hassle.
Evelyn Ruut - 26 May 2005 22:23 GMT
> Rosie is to the point in her AD journey
> that she constantly wears diapers
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> a job in a nursing home...they must be
> very special people.
Glad you dropped in John! It is good to see you and to hear news of Rosie.
You are right. The people who work in nursing homes are pretty special....
at least the ones I met were.

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Evelyn
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Karen - 27 May 2005 06:11 GMT
The caregivers really are special people and usually under-appreciated.
From what I see, people try to show how much they care by nit-pick things to
death. My MIL has operated under the delusion that she's on vacation and
the caregivers are maid for about 3 years and they just play along, even
when she gets high handed.
Then there was the new resident that had been an office manager and she went
around firing everyone for a couple of months. That was beyond funny
because she was so imperious (this was before "The Donald"). Even though
the disease is tragic, there are times you just have to laugh. Currently,
when we visit my MIL there is one resident that goes around turning off
lights. You'll be sitting in her room visiting and suddenly (but very
quietly) a small hand will snake in through the door and 'click' -- you're
sitting there in the dark. Of course, anytime anyone has said anything that
particular resident doesn't know anything about it. :-)
Karen
> Glad you dropped in John! It is good to see you and to hear news of Rosie.
>
> You are right. The people who work in nursing homes are pretty special....
> at least the ones I met were.
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> > I am amazed that anyone would take
> > a job in a nursing home...they must be
> > very special people.
Gwen Love - 27 May 2005 18:39 GMT
Karen, being able to laugh occasionally is what keeps you sane!
Gwen
> The caregivers really are special people and usually under-appreciated.
> From what I see, people try to show how much they care by nit-pick things to
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> > > a job in a nursing home...they must be
> > > very special people.