I probably should wake up more this morning before I make this post?
(ha) But overtime,in posts in here,I keep reading about assisted living
places and I wonder how those are different from nursing homes? And do
some nursing homes have assisted living parts? That is different levels
of care in the same facility?
I only know of one assisted living place at our county seat,in a town of
16,000 population. And the same amount of people in the rest of the
county. That seems like a lot of people to me; :-) but I know it really
isn't! LoL But anyway,this place as I understand it is only for people
who are fairly well able to take care of themselves in an apartment type
setting. But meals and things like that are also provided as needed. And
I understand from some people that this AL place is only for those who
have very good insurance and the ability to pay.
What I'm much more used to hearing about or knowing about is the few
nursing homes in our area. I think it's 4 or 5 of them in our local town
now? Some very small,some larger,some here a long time and at least two
are very new. One of my sisters-her MIL was in one of the newer ones.
She passed away earlier this year.
The thing is I'm not used to hearing of or knowing much about AL
places;but of nursing homes in our area.
And another question on my mind. What to do with yourself once someone
you have cared for has gone into AL or a nursing home? Can see how that
would be a very drastic change;but am wondering if some have found that
difficult to adjust to?
Ronny
Florence A - 18 May 2005 05:54 GMT
Ronny-
I didn't know the difference between NH & AL. My thoughts are NH got
such a bad reputation that marketing experts changed the name and
perhaps sold the concept with--- bring your own furniture & memories.
They took away the sterile look.
Each of these places seem to have glowing brochures..
Prices very. It is good to go visit them. Each one seems to have their
own criteria for acceptance.
In Tx and I believe in most other states the home is not touched for
funds, You might get busy finding out information..call the Alz Org .
I went to an Alz group meeting and got info on an Elder Lawyer. It's
not easy ferreting out all you need to be aware of.
Florence
Pattycake - 18 May 2005 15:38 GMT
Ronny,
Excellent question. I have worked in both Assisted Living and in a Skilled
Nursing Facility and there is quite a difference.
Assisted Living buildings come in lots of different shapes and sizes. They
fall under the category of Boarding Homes and the rules are different then
that of a full scaled Nursing Home.
Typically Assisted Living are for people who are pretty high functioning and
don't need the level of nursing care that is seen in Nursing Homes. There
are, however, exceptions. The Assisted Living building I work for
specializes in dementia care and we are able to keep almost all people with
us until they pass away. Currently we have several residents who are under
hospice care and will stay with us until the very end.
Many Nursing Homes (or SNF - Skilled Nursing Facility) are basically a
landing place between hospital and home for many people. Grandma falls at
home, breaks her hip and goes to the hospital. The insurance company says
that Grandma can only stay in the hospital for X number of days before she
is discharged. Grandma lives alone and is not capable of caring for
herself, that is where a SNF comes into play. They can provide Physical
Therapy, and Occupational Therapy and works with Grandma to help her become
as independent as possible. Best case scenario, after a month of therapy,
grandma goes home as independent as ever. In some cases though, Grandma does
not get better and sometimes ends up staying in a SNF until she passes away.
The other aspect of a SNF is that they have more Nurses on staff, 24 hours a
day, while an Assisted Living usually has Nurses on Duty for about 10-12
hours a day. Many AL buildings do not provide IV therapy or Tube Feedings,
that would be something you would see more in a SNF.
As far as payment goes, most Assisted Living buildings (not all) are pretty
much private pay while a SNF accepts both Medicare and Medicaid. An
excellent place to check on the care given at both AL's and SNF's is the
Medicare website. They have statistics and survey results on both, and you
can compare what is offered before you place a loved one in either.
When you are considering placement, your best bet is to contact places early
and start touring and doing research. On the Medicare website are some
questions that are fairly standard that most families should ask before
choosing a home for someone.
Hope this helps. All aspects of long term care can be a bit of a maze, but
with a little research, input from other Caregivers at your local AD support
group, and asking tons of questions, you can usually find what you are
looking for.
Patty
Florence A - 19 May 2005 00:22 GMT
Patty- Thanks for straightening me out on the NH AL differences.
I visited quite a few AL places in TX before returning to NJ. The heat
is something fierce in TX if you are not used to it..But the winter is
great..
I too, had never heard of AL but can see the need for this type of
facility. I thought it was only for the wealthy too.
I thought of this respite thing a long time. and considered also , how
to fill up the day..!
It's only been two days and I will say that I found sleeping anytime I
want is great though I never was a sleeper. I realize also that I do
not have to watch the clock and keep an ear for what he might be up
to.---I could actually read labels in the supermarket.. and put off 'til
tomorrow anything----
I could spot other people in the same situation, trotting slowly with a
LO in tow.
Karen - 19 May 2005 04:10 GMT
Ronny, one website that may interest you is that of Paul Premack, a Texas
attorney that is certified as an Elder Law Attorney. He stores archives of
his columns and publishes a "Senior Texan Legal Guide" that is in plain
English (okay, plain English Texas style :-) and is very helpful.
www.premack.com
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Dear Mr. Premack: We are in late August already, and I'm looking back at
your column from last February about Medicaid's plan to take away the homes
of people in nursing homes. What is the current status of that plan? -- SP
The Medicaid Estate Recovery Program (MERP), which was expected to come into
effect by September 1, has been delayed while the federal government (via
the Center for Medicaid Services) reviews and comments on the proposed Texas
plan.
(column continues)
http://premack.com/columns/2004/2004-08-17.htm
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I've found his columns to be a valuable resource.
Karen
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> I only know of one assisted living place at our county seat,in a town of
> 16,000 population. And the same amount of people in the rest of the
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> I understand from some people that this AL place is only for those who
> have very good insurance and the ability to pay.
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> Ronny