Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / May 2005
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meg - 15 May 2005 20:52 GMT My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of a number of different factors. She has improved since february, but is no longer able to be left alone and the progression of the disease seems to be quickening. I feel so guilty because I think if I really wanted to, I could find a way to keep her out of assisted living, although my sibblings are in full agreement that it's time to move her to a residential facility. I've been the main care provider, with lots of breaks from supportive sibblings, but now she'll be moving to my sister's town, and I feel guilty placing the burden of care for our Mother on my sister.
Any suggestions for making this move easier? I forsee lots of problems, because when her routine is disrupted her skills are really impacted. She can maintain for a day or two, but then gets quite confused and a little aggitated. She is participating in this decision to move to assisted living as much as possible, although we try to keep details to a minimum so she is not overwhelmed. There is no way to arrange her new, small studio so that it will resemble her current two bedroom home, although she will have some of the most sentimental peices of furniture and decor with her.
Also, my mother, on occaision is starting to mistake me for her departed husband. I am able to cope with repeated stories, questions, constant anxiety, and being confused with other sibblings, but I find it extremely uncomfortable when she wants me to go to bed with her to cuddle or she is mad at me in the morning when I haven't slept with her. I know she can't help it, but I have a very visceral reaction. On these ocassions, I have tried to distract her, and have pointed out that I don't have a beard but "deep down" as she says, she knows I'm her husband. Showing her a picture of her husband in the past has helped. But this delusion has happened when we have been running errands or in the car. The last time she had this delusion it went on for about 18 hours. (It took me a while to figure out why she was angry with me in the morning when I got up). Finally, out of sheer exhaustion from the discomfort I felt, I started to cry. My emotion must have caused some neurons to fire and she was able to gain some grasp on reality because she told me she wouldn't "tease" me anymore about being her husband. Any other suggestions. I hope this is moot when she moves to Assisted living.
As I read through these posts and from my own experience, I'm learning the Alz. can take caregivers just beyond what we are capable of handling.
Dennis P. Harris - 15 May 2005 21:28 GMT > I feel so guilty because I think if I really > wanted to, I could find a way to keep her out of assisted living, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sister's town, and I feel guilty placing the burden of care for our > Mother on my sister. You're not allowed to feel guilty here! Seriously, no one can look after someone who is not safe alone for 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. The professionals who work in the facility where your mother is going can work an 8 hour shift and leave the problems at work when they go home, unlike you, and they have immediate backup and assistance when problems happen. They can keep her safer and give her better care than you could.
Be thankful this is happening and that you can get your life back, and DO NOT FEEL GUILTY. Enjoy the fact that when you visit, you will be free from the stress of caring for her, of the irritation of having to answer the same questions every 5 minutes all day long, of having her become anxious because she can't see you or because she's having delusions. Enjoy the fact that the time you spend with her can be quality time because you're not tired and stressed out from caring for her.
You should also accept that you've done your share, and now it's your sister's turn, even though she won't have anywhere near the burden that you did.
Now take the time to take care of yourself. Once your mother has moved, go spend a weekend at a nice spa to recharge yourself physically and mentally, and then go do some stuff you've been putting off because you put Mom first.
Enjoy your freedom, and don't feel guilty. You did what you could.
Dennis P. Harris - 15 May 2005 21:30 GMT > She is participating in this decision > to move to assisted living as much as possible, although we try to keep > details to a minimum so she is not overwhelmed. There is no way to > arrange her new, small studio so that it will resemble her current two > bedroom home, although she will have some of the most sentimental > peices of furniture and decor with her. Almost everyone here will tell you that you should JUST DO IT, preferably while she's off doing something else, and then just take her to her new home after everything is moved, pix are on the wall, etc. Involving her in deciding what goes, etc. will only stress her out more and be too confusing. It's always better to present AD folks with a fait accompli, and to avoid having to force them to make choices.
lee - 15 May 2005 21:40 GMT that would be difficult to deal with - my MIL occassionally gets confused and calls my partner (her son) by her husband's name ... and tells people he's her husband and so on - but to date it hasn't gone to that extent ... he's her "husband" and my "better half" and she doesn't have any issues with that
Re: the move, it doesn't sound to me as though you have any need to feel guilty - you're not really placing the "burden of care" onto your sister - that is going to paid, trained caregivers, who get to go home at the end of their shift and come back refreshed - your sister will have a lot less responsibility and stress than you've had while caring for her.
besides, guilt really isn't helpful - your family is doing the best they can with the resources available, your mom is not being abandonned, and will have the care she needs - complete with family close by. All any of us can do is our best - less guilt will likely help to make the adjustment smoother for your mom, anyway.
> My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She > was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > the Alz. can take caregivers just beyond what we are capable of > handling. Evelyn Ruut - 15 May 2005 23:38 GMT > My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She > was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > the Alz. can take caregivers just beyond what we are capable of > handling. Hi and welcome.
You have received some excellent advice already, and there is little I can add. The most important thing is not to feel guilty. As others have said, we don't allow guilt here. There is nothing to feel guilty for and you have done the best you could for as long as you could.
You haven't by any means abandoned her. She has an illness that will continue to get worse and more difficult to deal with, and if your sister is ready to do her part for a while, please be grateful and try to enjoy the hard earned peace without guilt.
I wouldn't involve her in the nuts and bolts of the move. It will only frustrate and confuse her more. Simply bring her to the already furnished new place and have it all done up and ready to live in, if you want it to be easier for everyone. She will be grateful not to be called upon for decisions that are becoming harder and harder to deal with every day.
About the "husband" delusion. One of our long time regular posters had a situation where his mother in law began to imagine he was making sexual moves on her. This is a guy who would never in a million years do anything like that. In spite of their committment to keep her at home as long as possible, these delusions were the straw that broke the camels back and they did find a placement for her right away after that. Nobody wants to deal with that kind of thing... understandably it just made him too uncomfortable.
Delusions of all sorts are not uncommon. You are dealing with a mind whose wires are all crossed. A friend of mine had an aunt who imagined her husband's body (dead and buried for 30 years already) was hidden somewhere in the house and would tear the place apart looking for him. My mother in law imagined there were cows outside that needed to be fed and milked, and that she had a baby that needed nursing. Some delusions are not too harmful or difficult to deal with but the ones with a sexual overtone can be truly upsetting. (There are medications that help delusions, but you will have to ask your doctor about it).
I promise you that there is not a single person here that doesn't understand you and your family's need to place your mom in an assisted living. No guilt. You have done the best you could. Please be glad you have your health, that you have a family that has come to the fore when this challenge arrived, and visit your mom whenever you can.
If it is any comfort, when I placed my mother in law in a nursing home, I was so upset. I felt torn (like you). Part of me felt I was abandoning her. I was utterly amazed at how soon she adapted to the setting and the routine of the place. These folks are professionals, and they do this as their job. I hope your mom does as well as my mother in law did in her adjustment.
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Pattycake - 16 May 2005 01:57 GMT Dear Meg,
I work at a large Assisted Living building that specializes in the care of persons with dementia. That and I've lost my own mother to AD after about 15 years of living with this rotten disease.
Let the people who work at the Assisted Living take care of your mom now. It's what we do, and we're very good at it in most cases.
Your mom will be safe, you will be able to get your own life back, and I know if your mom had a choice in this decision, she would more than likely want you to be able to live your own life now and not be responsible for her day-to-day needs.
We all feel guilt, it's perfectly understandable. I see it in family's faces every day. All I can tell them is, to think what their loved one would really want. There is no one person who can do it all, it takes too much out of any one person.
Fix up her new room, take her somewhere nice for lunch, and then take her to her new home. I am always so pleased when somebody new moves in with us, it's always just as exciting for us as it is stressful for the families.
Give her a couple of weeks, hopefully she'll be settled in and it will really and truly be home.
Take some time for yourself. I know you deserve it.
All the best for you, Patty
Karen - 16 May 2005 04:10 GMT A friend of mine told me that frequently, guilt is an attempt of your mind to convince yourself that you have control over a situation in which you really are powerless over. Essentially, you tell yourself "I should have" or "I ought to" in situations where you really have no choice.
I found that brought me some comfort when we were forced to put my MIL into assisted living. She wouldn't move from the town she had lived in all her life to where we were. Her doc told us if we left her in her house and went back to our town (several hundred miles away) he would call Adult Protective Services because she wasn't safe to stay alone. It was very unpleasant, she made a huge scene and we couldn't see her for weeks without her going into hysterics. And it left Hubby and me both very shaken and feeling like we should have been able to do _something else_ even though there wasn't anything else to do. When I realized the guilt I was feeling was my mind trying to gain a sense of control and deny that there wasn't anything else to be done, it helped me get a handle on the guilt. We were able to move her to a place in our town a few years ago.
The gift that has come out of this situation is that with the caregivers taking care of the basic needs, it's made the visits with her something pleasant that her son and I enjoy.
One note -- if there is a husband shaped hole in her memory, don't be surprised if she has similar delusions about someone at her new place. That happened at the AL place my MIL is at and their children had a VERY difficult time handling it. They couldn't seem to realize that someone with Alzheimer's is acting out of the reality they are existing in at the moment. Fortunately, our parents generation was raised with social inhibitions on some behaviors. I shudder to think about later generations when they develop Alzheimer's, they don't seem to have many inhibitions already. :-)
Karen
> My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She > was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > the Alz. can take caregivers just beyond what we are capable of > handling. Gwen Love - 16 May 2005 18:12 GMT " I shudder to think about later generations when they develop Alzheimer's, they don't seem to have many inhibitions already. :-)"
Karen
Karen, I agree with you completely. Gwen
Baird Stafford - 16 May 2005 19:30 GMT > My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She > was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > sister's town, and I feel guilty placing the burden of care for our > Mother on my sister. I think it entirely possible that your sister may, up to now, have felt guilty about placing the burden of care on *you*. I suppose this might not be true in all families, but Sis lives in Boston while the Dowager and I live in Florida. Guess who has had the burden of care? And guess who, every three months of so, wails that she hates not being able to do anything to help?
I point out to her that had the Dowger chosen to move to Boston upon her retirement, our positions would be completely reversed. Sis would have the burden of care, and I would have the burden of guilt.
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Blessed be, Baird who is afraid the UofO at Eugene will have to wait another fifty years after the Dowager's passing, again, to build its parking garage....
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meg - 16 May 2005 22:07 GMT Thanks for all your responses. I especially appreciate the idea of replacing guilt with gratitude. I do feel lucky to have very involved sibblings who share the load and I am looking forward to all the things I will be able to do after my mother moves. We are planning to have our mother do something fun while others pack and set up. She does like lots of reassurance about what we're planning to move so her involvement is telling us what she wants to have in her new apt.
Meg
Ronny TX - 17 May 2005 15:17 GMT a few questions Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, May 15, 2005, 12:52pm (CDT-2) From: mollyg@darkwing.uoregon.edu (meg) My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of a number of different factors. She has improved since february, but is no longer able to be left alone and the progression of the disease seems to be quickening. I feel so guilty because I think if I really wanted to, I could find a way to keep her out of assisted living, although my sibblings are in full agreement that it's time to move her to a residential facility. I've been the main care provider, with lots of breaks from supportive sibblings, but now she'll be moving to my sister's town, and I feel guilty placing the burden of care for our Mother on my sister.
Ronny: But then your sister won't have near the burden of care that you did.
Meg: Any suggestions for making this move easier? I forsee lots of problems, because when her routine is disrupted her skills are really impacted. She can maintain for a day or two, but then gets quite confused and a little aggitated. She is participating in this decision to move to assisted living as much as possible, although we try to keep details to a minimum so she is not overwhelmed. There is no way to arrange her new, small studio so that it will resemble her current two bedroom home, although she will have some of the most sentimental peices of furniture and decor with her.
Ronny: I know situations are different for different people;but I'm glad to see that your Mom is having some input in this and I'm glad to hear you say that y'all are keeping somethings to a minimum so your Mom won't be overwhelmed. Meg: Also, my mother, on occaision is starting to mistake me for her departed husband. I am able to cope with repeated stories, questions, constant anxiety, and being confused with other sibblings, but I find it extremely uncomfortable when she wants me to go to bed with her to cuddle or she is mad at me in the morning when I haven't slept with her. I know she can't help it, but I have a very visceral reaction. On these ocassions, I have tried to distract her, and have pointed out that I don't have a beard but "deep down" as she says, she knows I'm her husband. Showing her a picture of her husband in the past has helped. But this delusion has happened when we have been running errands or in the car. The last time she had this delusion it went on for about 18 hours. (It took me a while to figure out why she was angry with me in the morning when I got up). Finally, out of sheer exhaustion from the discomfort I felt, I started to cry. My emotion must have caused some neurons to fire and she was able to gain some grasp on reality because she told me she wouldn't "tease" me anymore about being her husband. Any other suggestions. I hope this is moot when she moves to Assisted living.
Ronny: Just do your best to keep in mind that all of this is a delusion and that there's really nothing that can be done about it except to try to distract your Mom and get her mind on something else. And yes,it shook me too when my Mom first thought I was her husband,my Dad and I realized that she was refering to our children! Just glad that didn't happen much and hasn't happened lately. Much better when she thinks I'm her brother or her Dad or something like that! :-) Just got to keep in mind that delusions are delusions and all such usually come and go;but one in particular seldom lasts.
Meg: As I read through these posts and from my own experience, I'm learning the Alz. can take caregivers just beyond what we are capable of handling.
Ronny: That's true and that's when you have to have help and the level of help needed is dependent on the condition of the person with Alzheimers and what the caregiver(s) can take. And there is absolutely no use in feeling guilt over what you can't do or can't take. Much better to focus on what you can do and get help for that which you really can't.
Hope that made sense 'cause I'm still trying to wake up this morning! LoL Ronny
Beth - 18 May 2005 12:40 GMT Regulatory-wise- a skilled nursing home is a place for folks who need "skilled nursing care"- that is their medical status needs monitoring for one reason or another (those on oxygen, having wounds or pressure sores, some diabetics, a complex medication regime, and the like). An Assisted Living can be about anything else-from individual apts. to multiple room mates. Custodial care tends not to be regulated consistently. In my experience, the newer ones can look beautiful- and that appeals to the families to get them in. But look carefully at the staffing and services provided, to see that it matches the client's needs and your expectations.
Beth, Physical Therapist.
Jo Ann Malina - 21 May 2005 10:53 GMT meg <mollyg@darkwing.uoregon.edu> is alleged to have said:
> My family is getting ready to move my mother into assisted living. She > was indpendent until late February, then had a huge decline, because of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > sister's town, and I feel guilty placing the burden of care for our > Mother on my sister. There are things you can do from a distance, depending on aptitudes and financial resources. Like, you could manage your mother's financial affairs, like making sure the facility gets their monthly check and checking bank statements for errors and problems, while your sister concentrates on visiting. Send care packages of socks and underwear when needed, so your sister doesn't have to go shopping. You can call our mother daily so that if sister misses a visit, it won't be so painful. ...
> Also, my mother, on occaision is starting to mistake me for her > departed husband. This should diminish with distance. If she's anything like my mom, after a while she won't really remember who you are or why she knows you, but will always be glad for a cheerful phone call or postcard.
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