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Evelyn Ruut - 11 May 2005 23:44 GMT
I saw the first bear of the season!   Just watching the news after dinner
and glanced out the window, and near our small pond, a small black bear was
moving through the woods.  It is amazing how quietly they glide through the
forest and how quickly.

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Ronny TX - 12 May 2005 02:46 GMT
> Off topic, but cool!  
>  
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> how quietly they glide through the
> forest and how quickly.
Ronny:
My first thought was that I wouldn't want to see a bear that close to my
house! LoL
Dennis P. Harris - 12 May 2005 03:57 GMT
> I saw the first bear of the season!

i've already written up 7 mobile home park tenants this spring
for not securing the garbage that the bears have scattered all
over the park as they drag the bags into the woods.  

we're quite draconian about it;  we don't want bears in the parks
with so many children around.  city law fines them $100 first
time $300 second time if they get caught;  we give them a notice
and can evict them for cause if they do it again within 6 months,
because it's a threat to public safety.  

btw, bears will usually avoid people unless they get habituated
to eating garbage or raiding gardens or orchards.  once they are
habituated, they are on the way to being dead bears, because they
have lost their fear of humans and are then dangerous.
Evelyn Ruut - 12 May 2005 12:37 GMT
>> I saw the first bear of the season!
>
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> habituated, they are on the way to being dead bears, because they
> have lost their fear of humans and are then dangerous.

Yes, I have a neighbor who always puts out a bird feeder and the bears think
the bird seed is bear candy!   He has to take the bird feeder in every night
or they will pull it down to get the seeds.  Last year they extended bear
hunting season and that neighbor shot a smallish female bear.   I hate to
see them die, but I realize there are just too many of them.

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Glenfiddich - 12 May 2005 04:15 GMT
>I saw the first bear of the season!   Just watching the news after dinner
>and glanced out the window, and near our small pond, a small black bear was
>moving through the woods.  It is amazing how quietly they glide through the
>forest and how quickly.

My new hobby is watching for the hawks who have adopted this part of
New york City.   I only see them about once a week, but I believe this
is a good sign as they only hunt when they're hungry.

So far, I've seen 3 at one time but there may be more.
They're reddish brown on top and white underneath, totally awesome -
and drive the pigeons crazy.
Although I no longer have a car, I still hate those pigeons!
Ronny TX - 12 May 2005 04:43 GMT
Re: Off topic, but cool!  
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, May 12, 2005, 3:15am (CDT+5)
From: atsila@nyc.RoadRunner.com (Glenfiddich)
On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:44:02 GMT, "Evelyn Ruut"
<mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
I saw the first bear of the season!   Just watching the news after
dinner and glanced out the window, and near our small pond, a small
black bear was moving through the woods. It is amazing how quietly they
glide through the forest and how quickly.

Glenfiddich:
My new hobby is watching for the hawks who have adopted this part of New
york City.   I only see them about once a week, but I believe this is
a good sign as they only hunt when they're hungry.
So far, I've seen 3 at one time but there may be more. They're reddish
brown on top and white underneath, totally awesome - and drive the
pigeons crazy.
Although I no longer have a car, I still hate those pigeons!

Ronny:
LoL You put me in mind of a guy I know from another group or so who
dearly & passionately hates pigeons! LoL So I shall have to keep my eye
out for when he posts another anti-pigeon webpage and then post that in
here for you! LoL
Evelyn Ruut - 12 May 2005 12:35 GMT
>>I saw the first bear of the season!   Just watching the news after dinner
>>and glanced out the window, and near our small pond, a small black bear
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> and drive the pigeons crazy.
> Although I no longer have a car, I still hate those pigeons!

Hi Glenfiddich,

I have seen the film about those Hawks... Pale Male and Lola, wasn't it?
They showed it on PBS and it was in the news too.   I am glad the building
owners decided to shore up their nest and let them stay.   NYC definitely
has need of birds of prey to control rats and pigeons.
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Glenfiddich - 13 May 2005 01:04 GMT
>>>I saw the first bear of the season!   Just watching the news after dinner
>>>and glanced out the window, and near our small pond, a small black bear
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>owners decided to shore up their nest and let them stay.   NYC definitely
>has need of birds of prey to control rats and pigeons.

No, those are the Manhattan branch of the family.  
They have a very good publicist...

Our hawks are local, here in Queens County.
A few years back there were only two - now there are three and one
seemed a tad smaller than the others, so I believe they've bred.

They hunt over a wide area, one which includes back gardens, waste
land, small parks, the grassy borders along the Long Island Expressway
and the huge Flushing Meadows park.   Since they stay home digesting
more often than they hunt, I'm hopeful that they're removing a decent
number of mice, rats and squirrels.

I have seen one of them take a pigeon in midair, however.  
I suspect they prefer soft, furry and slower-moving prey, whenever the
weather lets them get it.
Speaking of which, it's only this week that we've had a couple of days
above 70F - this spring has been quite cool.

Incidentally, I became more aware of the local bird life when I used
to take my wife for her daily walks;  as she became slower and less
conversational, I had more time to look around...
Evelyn Ruut - 13 May 2005 03:11 GMT
> Incidentally, I became more aware of the local bird life when I used
> to take my wife for her daily walks;  as she became slower and less
> conversational, I had more time to look around...

Tonight while we were eating dinner a hummingbird came up to our kitchen
window.   I have a glass vase with red and green glass intertwined.  I think
they are drawn to it.

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 13 May 2005 13:30 GMT
I love hummingbirds. We have lots of them at our summer cottage (north
of Kingston, Ontario). They very aggressively guard the sugar water
feeder and dive bomb each other. One will sit very patiently on a
branch near the feeder waiting for any interloper to show up, and then
attack. They make a chittering noise when they go after each other -
the hummingbird equivalent of a growl (or maybe "take that! and that!
and that!). Too funny for such cute little things. Who'd a thunk they
fight like that?  

Mary
Evelyn Ruut - 13 May 2005 13:47 GMT
>I love hummingbirds. We have lots of them at our summer cottage (north
> of Kingston, Ontario). They very aggressively guard the sugar water
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>
> Mary

I didn't know they did that!   They are just so tiny and cute.  The ones we
have here are more of an olive green, but iridescent color.

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Karen - 14 May 2005 02:29 GMT
The ones we have seem to be content to graze the hummingbird bushes
together.  Of course, they might graze together peacefully because there's
more than any one bird could handle?

It's funny, my house is 40+ years old and my next door neighbor moved in 40
years ago when his was new.  He swore that we didn't get hummingbirds in our
area.  Then a garden shop sold me 5 hummingbird bushes (Hamelia patens for
the curious) on the premise that they never get taller than 3 or 4 feet.
Mine grow more that 7 or 8 every year and my Mom's was about 10 feet tall.
Every summer there's always at least one or two going over the bushes,
sometimes 3 or 4.  If you are in the right location and have some space, the
hummers love them -- http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1844/ (I know nothing
about this vendor but the site has good detail on the plant).

Hubby and I decided years ago that we weren't good at remembering to fill
bird feeders so we planted them instead.  :-)

Karen

> I didn't know they did that!   They are just so tiny and cute.  The ones we
> have here are more of an olive green, but iridescent color.
Evelyn Ruut - 14 May 2005 12:51 GMT
> The ones we have seem to be content to graze the hummingbird bushes
> together.  Of course, they might graze together peacefully because there's
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>
> Karen

Hi Karen, I checked that link, and sadly I don't think it would grow here in
upstate NY.   All the places that reported good results were in the south.
I think there are some other bushes they might like that grow here.  I am
going to look into it.   I'd prefer to plant something they like as opposed
to putting a sugar water feeder out.
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Glenfiddich - 15 May 2005 05:00 GMT
>> The ones we have seem to be content to graze the hummingbird bushes
>> together.  Of course, they might graze together peacefully because there's
>> more than any one bird could handle?
...
>> If you are in the right location and have some space,
>> the
>> hummers love them -- http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1844/ (I know nothing
>> about this vendor but the site has good detail on the plant).
>> Karen

>Hi Karen, I checked that link, and sadly I don't think it would grow here in
>upstate NY.   All the places that reported good results were in the south.
>I think there are some other bushes they might like that grow here.  I am
>going to look into it.   I'd prefer to plant something they like as opposed
>to putting a sugar water feeder out.

You could get lucky - I've seen a hummingbird feeding off flowers near
Woodstock.
Unfortunately, I've no idea what that plant was - but at least such
plants can grow in NY state.
Evelyn Ruut - 15 May 2005 12:31 GMT
>>> The ones we have seem to be content to graze the hummingbird bushes
>>> together.  Of course, they might graze together peacefully because
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> Unfortunately, I've no idea what that plant was - but at least such
> plants can grow in NY state.

Hi Glenfiddich,

Yes, there are many things that do grow very well here, or else those
hummingbirds wouldn't be here.  My neighbor has extensive flower gardens,
but he has to keep them all behind high fences.  The deer are so destructive
and they eat absolutely everything.   Last year they ate my hostas right
down to the ground.
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Adelle - 13 May 2005 17:10 GMT
> Our hawks are local, here in Queens County.
> A few years back there were only two - now there are three and one
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> more often than they hunt, I'm hopeful that they're removing a decent
> number of mice, rats and squirrels.

Where in Queens are you? Where do the hawk's nest?

I grew up in Richmond Hill and went to Forest Hills High School. My parents
moved to Kew Garden Hills after I left for college. And my Dad worked in
downtown Flushing for decades.

Adelle
Evelyn Ruut - 13 May 2005 19:47 GMT
>> Our hawks are local, here in Queens County.
>> A few years back there were only two - now there are three and one
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>
> Adelle

Adelle, did you hear about the disaster in the city yesterday when a huge
retaining wall fell down and jeopardized the safety of several buildings and
covered much of the West side highway?  A real mess,  but so far it looks
like no one died in it.

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Glenfiddich - 13 May 2005 21:31 GMT
>> Our hawks are local, here in Queens County.
>> A few years back there were only two - now there are three and one
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>
>Where in Queens are you?

Near the old Macy*s - the round one that's now a Target.

>Where do the hawk's nest?

I don't know. The hunting patterns that I see mostly come *from* the
general area of Elmhurst Hospital, but I've never actually seen them
heading home with supper in their claws.   Since they're
cliff-dwellers, they could be nesting on any of the higher buildings.
Actually, I hope their nest site stays private...

> I grew up in Richmond Hill and went to Forest Hills High School. My parents
>moved to Kew Garden Hills after I left for college. And my Dad worked in
>downtown Flushing for decades.

I've came here to Newtown 25 years ago, when I married my New Yorker
(who was the reason I'm on this ng); before that I lived in Britain.

This neighborhood is changing rapidly, there are 5 new buildings going
up on just one block here - and there have been a dozen more in the
last couple of years!    Flushing has changed, too - you need to read
a Far Eastern language to go shopping.

On topic, care giving is just so wearing that one does need to develop
*some* outside interests to survive mentally.
My wife and I began relating more to the local kids than to the
adults, after her AD became obvious;  I'm seeing a quite unexpected
dividend in that lots of beautiful teenagers now have a friendly smile
for this old man.    Those kids have grown up. . .
 
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