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Boydette - 04 Nov 2004 09:21 GMT

My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is
all I can do...her insane ramblings make me so nervous and upset...I
have been advised not to correct her but she says the most bizarre stuff
and when I dont say anything she gets mad....I think I am just trying to
gather my strength for the time it is really gonna be needed....my
sister has all the power legally and she is 12 years younger than
me.....soooo I have let her take the brunt of it for now....when the
chips are down I will be there and take care of the situation but for
now I am just cruising...can any of you relate?
Moms landlord left me a message today and I know he is wanting her out
cause she is knocking on the neighbors doors to ask them where her apt
is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
in the sand and hope it all goes away
donnah - 04 Nov 2004 13:29 GMT
(((Boydette)))
You are doing the best you can right now so don't beat yourself up! I
think it's important that you are recognizing that you need to "gather
your strength" and in doing that you will be able to do more as time
goes on...
My situation is the opposite in that I am the primary caregiver, and I
do get frustrated with my sister and sil! But in all fairness, I have
to understand that they are doing the best they can for right now. And
there have been some mini-events where they have helped when it was
really needed.
Sometimes I want to run away and join the circus <g>...
donnah

> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
> visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that
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> head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away
Evelyn Ruut - 04 Nov 2004 16:41 GMT
Dear Boydette,

I think you are right for allowing your sis to deal with the situation
firsthand.  She needs to see how hard it can be for you.    The part about
the landlord wanting them out may be a blessing in disguise.  They seem like
they really shouldn't be on their own anymore, but that will be your
family's decision on how to deal with it.   Meanwhile, keep your chin up and
do what you know is the right thing...... mostly what is the right thing for
you.   If you don't take care of yourself you won't be able to take care of
anyone else.

(((((( big hugs )))))

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Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")

>
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away
Suzie Q - 04 Nov 2004 18:17 GMT
Boydette,

I've been caring (and had living with me) for Mom for nine years, she's
87.  My older sister lives 1000 miles away and hasn't been to visit in
eight years.   At that time, Mom had forgotten who she was and would
tell me in her whisper, that you could hear in the next room :). that
she wanted 'that woman' to leave.  My sister couldn't handle it and has
used the excuse ever since that there's no sense visiting because Mom
doesn't know her anyway.  I haven't pushed it because she's always been
a nervous person who doesn't deal well with stress.  We all have our
limitations and I appreciate that she tries in other ways to be
supportive, particularly by being a wonderful aunt to my daughter over
the years (my husband died when she was very young) by sending her
meaningful gifts or money to spend on special needs.  She realized
having the strain of Grandma living in the same house and taking so much
of my energy was difficult for her too.  

Yes, there's times I feel like chewing out my sister's butt because of
fatigue or after a rough patch with Mom but I count to ten....or a
hundred, and count my blessings that she could be like our brother who
hasn't seen any of us in eighteen years and could care less about his
family.  He's never married, or had kids, and is manic-depressive.  

Do what you can in other ways to help with your mother by maybe
preparing frozen meals, having a cleaning lady go in once in awhile, and
be completely honest with your sister about how you just can't handle
the emotions connected to your mom and how much you appreciate that she
can.  My sister told me some time ago how she just can't handle it and I
really appreciated her honesty.  

Good luck and don't beat yourself up over this.  We all have our
strengths and weaknesses and sometimes just have to be open about what
we can and can't handle so those close to us gain understanding rather
than resentment.

SQ
Tumbleweed - 04 Nov 2004 18:27 GMT
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
> visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away

What do you mean 'when the chips are down'? What actual circumstance? Sounds
to me, if the landlord wants her out and your sister is getting to the end
of her tether, maybe the chips are down?.

Perhaps its time to look for a home for your mother, since it will only get
worse. Is looking for a home something your sister and you can do together?
Is your sister looking after our mother alone?

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Gwen Love - 04 Nov 2004 19:29 GMT
(((((((((((((((((((((((((Boydette)))))))))))))))))))))))))
Gwen

> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
> visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away
devout chocoholic - 05 Nov 2004 00:55 GMT
My two brother were never around much while my mother was at home and only
visited her twice while she was in the NH for 1-1/2 years.  It never bothered
me.  I understood.  Some people can't deal with this as others can.  It didn't
make my dad happy much but, oh well!

I just think she has to accept that not everyone is going to deal with this in
a way she would hope.  Sometimes I wanted to find a tree and climb up it with a
roll of paper towels and just cry the day away.

I never understood half the stuff mom would say so I would just, mm hmm, yeah,
whatever, and it seamed to work.

              __O
mo who _-\<,_  for the health of it!
          (_)/   (_)

>> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to visit
mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is all I can
do...her insane ramblings make me so nervous and upset...I have been advised
not to correct her but she says the most bizarre stuff and when I dont say
anything she gets mad....I think I am just trying to gather my strength for the
time it is really gonna be needed....my sister has all the power legally and
she is 12 years younger than me.....soooo I have let her take the brunt of it
for now....when the chips are down I will be there and take care of the
situation but for now I am just cruising...can any of you relate?  Moms
landlord left me a message today and I know he is wanting her out cause she is
knocking on the neighbors doors to ask them where her apt is and where my dad
is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head in the sand and hope it all
goes away. <<
Feather Forestwalker - 05 Nov 2004 03:38 GMT
>  
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away

Your mom sounds a little bit like my client; for weeks during the
summer, she would come knocking on neighbors' doors, asking them what
she was supposed to be doing.

I remember when she first moved into our building last year; she came
into my house, asking me what she was supposed to do about the cat
litter box. (She had a cat when she moved in here, but that didn't last
very long).

After the Namenda got started, most of that behavior sort of leveled
off. She now spends, very happily, too, oddly enough, a lot of time
inside, watching television and, I caught her at this yesterday: playing
dressup. I kid you not. When I walked in to make sure she was ready for
dinner, she was standing there with her hair all done up in clips and
wearing the most clashing outfit I'd yet seen her in. She swirled around
to look at me; was almost glaring, it was so strange. Then recognition
dawned and I said, "Honey, are you OK?" She said, "I am NOW." Then she
laughed. *phew* I was pretty nervous for a second; thought she might
lash out at me. When I asked her what she was doing, she said, "Getting
ready to go OUT!" Oh, OK. (No one was coming to get her, so I just
agreed, and we moved on to the next thing).

I would have to say that perhaps your mom needs someone all day and all
night. We are getting this in place for my client; there will be a young
couple renting out one room of the new apartment - possibly as early as
next week - and then *I* will spell *them* during the day twice a week,
and the other caregiver will do the other three days of the week, with
the couple dealing with it on weekends. They will schedule her friends,
I guess (I HOPE), but I explained to the woman doing the interview today
that I would be more than happy to show them the ropes.

Here's to hoping this all works out!

And for your situation, I sincerely hope there's night time as well as
daytime, care.

Blessings,

Feather
AD - 05 Nov 2004 15:49 GMT
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to
> visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head
> in the sand and hope it all goes away

I can understand your position and I agree that you can only do what
you can do.  It does sound as if your mother is not capable of living
alone and you can't put your head in the sand about that because the
outcome could be very bad.  Perhaps you could help that situation by
investigating some alternatives for her (either an assisted living
facility or a sitter).  Just because she needs care doesn't mean that
you have to be the one giving it to her - but someone needs to
facilitate that.
A.D.
Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 02:37 GMT
Thanks to all that responded...good advice all the way round....I went
and got mom today and took her to see dad....so I feel I have done my
part for awhile....I am limiting further information because someone
took this post I left and posted it all over usenet with comments about
me and my family....I need the support but I am scared to say anything
further....hope all of you are doing okay...Love B
Evelyn Ruut - 08 Nov 2004 02:45 GMT
> Thanks to all that responded...good advice all the way round....I went
> and got mom today and took her to see dad....so I feel I have done my
> part for awhile....I am limiting further information because someone
> took this post I left and posted it all over usenet with comments about
> me and my family....I need the support but I am scared to say anything
> further....hope all of you are doing okay...Love B

Boydette, I am so sorry you are having problems.

We have a few disgruntled former posters who are just so difficult and hate
filled, that they do nothing but look for something to pick at.    You
aren't alone.   I suddenly have been receiving virus filled emails, (which
fortunately I have enough protection in place to disarm before they do any
harm) but someone has hijacked my email address, even with the little trick
I included there to prevent it.

Someone has been trying to send me an email with a similar address to mine,
but it is a fake one, so I get notified but it doesn't go through.

There are a few trolls, and there are also some mean people out there.  Give
it some time and they may get bored and go away, but please don't let them
get your goat.   I don't let them get mine.....
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Regards,
Evelyn

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Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 06:33 GMT
Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything
sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with
pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported
them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel
is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall
Stephen B - 08 Nov 2004 09:39 GMT
>Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything
>sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with
>pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported
>them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel
>is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall

It may be too late at this point, unless you wish to abandon your current email
address, but I would urge not using your real email address in the "from" field
of any postings to the Internet. Unfortunately, I don't know if this is possible
on webtv. I am sorry that you've been targeted by some nut. It is discouraging
that posting to a support newsgroup seems to attract this kind of stuff.
Take care,
-steve
Rommel, you magnificent bastard I read your book!!! - 08 Nov 2004 11:03 GMT
> Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything
> sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with
> pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported
> them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel
> is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall

We didn't find anything, idiot...***you*** posted the link that got
shortened, allowing your front page to be viewed, all because you
thought it'd be real neat to troll w/ your website's backpage fake
photo.

b.t.w. I reported you to webtv for posting your stalker threats on
Usenet, and even fwd the private e-mails that you sent to me...they
might get a kick out of your threats to stalk by using the private
info that you claim to have. Changing your screen name didn't matter,
they still know what account it came from, troll. :)
donnah - 08 Nov 2004 15:40 GMT
(((Boydette)))
Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out. I
had a similar problem last year on my "gimp" group. My ISP and the
police got involved and it was taken care of in an efficient
manner...not as fast as I wanted, but they were very thorough.
donnah

> Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything
> sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my
> downfall
Evelyn Ruut - 08 Nov 2004 15:31 GMT
> (((Boydette)))
> Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out. I had a
> similar problem last year on my "gimp" group. My ISP and the police got
> involved and it was taken care of in an efficient manner...not as fast as
> I wanted, but they were very thorough.
> donnah

Boydette, just want to endorse what Donnah said.    I have also been the
victim of trolls, and sometimes the victim of the simply intolerant types as
well.   The only thing to do is hang tough and don't let the a.sholes get
you down.    There are all too many of them around.

There is no way we can please everybody, so if we can find a way to please
ourselves, that is the best we can do.
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Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")

donnah - 08 Nov 2004 16:26 GMT
LOL, Evelyn! and no disrespect meant...I hesitated about using the
word a.sholes (I usually use RO=rectal orifice :) as I wasn't sure how
that would be received <g>
I like your directness! and that description fits them to a T...
donnah

>> (((Boydette)))
>> Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> There is no way we can please everybody, so if we can find a way to
> please ourselves, that is the best we can do.
Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 17:14 GMT
sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying
to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control.....like
I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont
need it either....some people are just too evil for words
Darryl - 08 Nov 2004 19:20 GMT
>sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying
>to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control.....like
>I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont
>need it either....some people are just too evil for words

Don't respond to anything that (s)he posts and (s)he'll move on.  

Darryl.
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 23:30 GMT
>From: Darryl <umpolung@REMOVEhotmail.com>
>
> Don't respond to anything that (s)he posts and (s)he'll move on.  
>
> Darryl.

Carol was told the very same thing (by the NONfeeders) way over a year
ago and Carol *still* responds...today - I have a feeling that
Boydette is just every bit as weak-willed as Carol has proven herself
to be. You ask why? Easy. Boydette *entered* her "flamewar" by
preaching the *Don't respond* advice to others, but of course Boydette
never took her own advice.

<sigh>
Rommel, you magnificent bastard I read your book!!! - 08 Nov 2004 23:05 GMT
> sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying
> to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control.....

No, liar, you're the feeder/troll that absolutely started this...and
continued by posting a fake photo, weeks after you blubbered out your
empty 'gnore advice, too stupid to figure out that when you post a
link to your backpage, of course people will be able to find the front
page to the link that you provided.

> like I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont
> need it either....some people are just too evil for words

Stalker, guess you should have thought twice before you e-mailed me
twice, threatening me with the pretense that you have all of my
private info and that you were going to act on it.
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 19:03 GMT
> Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything
> sensitive...

So...you're not even sure why you're on Usenet?

> this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with
> pictures of me and my family

Pretty easy to "find" ...since *you* posted your web site URL - just
because you posted an extended version of the link doesn't mean the
URL can't be shortened to its original front page version.

> and posted lewd comments....

Loony, what was so "lewd" about saying "Mmmmmmmmm" or "Sweeeeeet!" or
"<licking thumbs>"? You've said things that are way more "lewd" about
your "daugher" ...haven't you? ;)

Oh well...
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 19:11 GMT
>  Give it some time and they may get bored and go away

You're assuming that Boydette *wants* the "flamewar" to end - guess
you didn't realize that Boydette is *still* making new replies
about/to the postings that she's weeping about. Even after she claimed
to be finished. ;)

Oh well...
caryrjr - 08 Nov 2004 19:24 GMT
"Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly
flows The liquefaction of her clothes" <JennaBush_Has_SexyFlesh@yahoo.com>
wrote in message news:268b8afe.0411081111.11e8c78c@posting.google.com...

>>  Give it some time and they may get bored and go away
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Oh well...

It helps her gain sympathy... she thinks.
 
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