Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / November 2004
I got my butt chewed today
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Boydette - 04 Nov 2004 09:21 GMT My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is all I can do...her insane ramblings make me so nervous and upset...I have been advised not to correct her but she says the most bizarre stuff and when I dont say anything she gets mad....I think I am just trying to gather my strength for the time it is really gonna be needed....my sister has all the power legally and she is 12 years younger than me.....soooo I have let her take the brunt of it for now....when the chips are down I will be there and take care of the situation but for now I am just cruising...can any of you relate? Moms landlord left me a message today and I know he is wanting her out cause she is knocking on the neighbors doors to ask them where her apt is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head in the sand and hope it all goes away
donnah - 04 Nov 2004 13:29 GMT (((Boydette))) You are doing the best you can right now so don't beat yourself up! I think it's important that you are recognizing that you need to "gather your strength" and in doing that you will be able to do more as time goes on... My situation is the opposite in that I am the primary caregiver, and I do get frustrated with my sister and sil! But in all fairness, I have to understand that they are doing the best they can for right now. And there have been some mini-events where they have helped when it was really needed. Sometimes I want to run away and join the circus <g>... donnah
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to > visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > head > in the sand and hope it all goes away Evelyn Ruut - 04 Nov 2004 16:41 GMT Dear Boydette,
I think you are right for allowing your sis to deal with the situation firsthand. She needs to see how hard it can be for you. The part about the landlord wanting them out may be a blessing in disguise. They seem like they really shouldn't be on their own anymore, but that will be your family's decision on how to deal with it. Meanwhile, keep your chin up and do what you know is the right thing...... mostly what is the right thing for you. If you don't take care of yourself you won't be able to take care of anyone else.
(((((( big hugs )))))
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> > My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head > in the sand and hope it all goes away Suzie Q - 04 Nov 2004 18:17 GMT Boydette,
I've been caring (and had living with me) for Mom for nine years, she's 87. My older sister lives 1000 miles away and hasn't been to visit in eight years. At that time, Mom had forgotten who she was and would tell me in her whisper, that you could hear in the next room :). that she wanted 'that woman' to leave. My sister couldn't handle it and has used the excuse ever since that there's no sense visiting because Mom doesn't know her anyway. I haven't pushed it because she's always been a nervous person who doesn't deal well with stress. We all have our limitations and I appreciate that she tries in other ways to be supportive, particularly by being a wonderful aunt to my daughter over the years (my husband died when she was very young) by sending her meaningful gifts or money to spend on special needs. She realized having the strain of Grandma living in the same house and taking so much of my energy was difficult for her too.
Yes, there's times I feel like chewing out my sister's butt because of fatigue or after a rough patch with Mom but I count to ten....or a hundred, and count my blessings that she could be like our brother who hasn't seen any of us in eighteen years and could care less about his family. He's never married, or had kids, and is manic-depressive.
Do what you can in other ways to help with your mother by maybe preparing frozen meals, having a cleaning lady go in once in awhile, and be completely honest with your sister about how you just can't handle the emotions connected to your mom and how much you appreciate that she can. My sister told me some time ago how she just can't handle it and I really appreciated her honesty.
Good luck and don't beat yourself up over this. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and sometimes just have to be open about what we can and can't handle so those close to us gain understanding rather than resentment.
SQ
Tumbleweed - 04 Nov 2004 18:27 GMT > My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to > visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head > in the sand and hope it all goes away What do you mean 'when the chips are down'? What actual circumstance? Sounds to me, if the landlord wants her out and your sister is getting to the end of her tether, maybe the chips are down?.
Perhaps its time to look for a home for your mother, since it will only get worse. Is looking for a home something your sister and you can do together? Is your sister looking after our mother alone?
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Gwen Love - 04 Nov 2004 19:29 GMT (((((((((((((((((((((((((Boydette))))))))))))))))))))))))) Gwen
> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to > visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head > in the sand and hope it all goes away devout chocoholic - 05 Nov 2004 00:55 GMT My two brother were never around much while my mother was at home and only visited her twice while she was in the NH for 1-1/2 years. It never bothered me. I understood. Some people can't deal with this as others can. It didn't make my dad happy much but, oh well!
I just think she has to accept that not everyone is going to deal with this in a way she would hope. Sometimes I wanted to find a tree and climb up it with a roll of paper towels and just cry the day away.
I never understood half the stuff mom would say so I would just, mm hmm, yeah, whatever, and it seamed to work.
__O mo who _-\<,_ for the health of it! (_)/ (_)
>> My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is all I can do...her insane ramblings make me so nervous and upset...I have been advised not to correct her but she says the most bizarre stuff and when I dont say anything she gets mad....I think I am just trying to gather my strength for the time it is really gonna be needed....my sister has all the power legally and she is 12 years younger than me.....soooo I have let her take the brunt of it for now....when the chips are down I will be there and take care of the situation but for now I am just cruising...can any of you relate? Moms landlord left me a message today and I know he is wanting her out cause she is knocking on the neighbors doors to ask them where her apt is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head in the sand and hope it all goes away. <<
Feather Forestwalker - 05 Nov 2004 03:38 GMT > > My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head > in the sand and hope it all goes away Your mom sounds a little bit like my client; for weeks during the summer, she would come knocking on neighbors' doors, asking them what she was supposed to be doing.
I remember when she first moved into our building last year; she came into my house, asking me what she was supposed to do about the cat litter box. (She had a cat when she moved in here, but that didn't last very long).
After the Namenda got started, most of that behavior sort of leveled off. She now spends, very happily, too, oddly enough, a lot of time inside, watching television and, I caught her at this yesterday: playing dressup. I kid you not. When I walked in to make sure she was ready for dinner, she was standing there with her hair all done up in clips and wearing the most clashing outfit I'd yet seen her in. She swirled around to look at me; was almost glaring, it was so strange. Then recognition dawned and I said, "Honey, are you OK?" She said, "I am NOW." Then she laughed. *phew* I was pretty nervous for a second; thought she might lash out at me. When I asked her what she was doing, she said, "Getting ready to go OUT!" Oh, OK. (No one was coming to get her, so I just agreed, and we moved on to the next thing).
I would have to say that perhaps your mom needs someone all day and all night. We are getting this in place for my client; there will be a young couple renting out one room of the new apartment - possibly as early as next week - and then *I* will spell *them* during the day twice a week, and the other caregiver will do the other three days of the week, with the couple dealing with it on weekends. They will schedule her friends, I guess (I HOPE), but I explained to the woman doing the interview today that I would be more than happy to show them the ropes.
Here's to hoping this all works out!
And for your situation, I sincerely hope there's night time as well as daytime, care.
Blessings,
Feather
AD - 05 Nov 2004 15:49 GMT > My sister went off on me cause I havent been to see dad or go in to > visit mom...I talk to her on the phone several times a day and that is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > is and where my dad is...stuff like that....I just want to put my head > in the sand and hope it all goes away I can understand your position and I agree that you can only do what you can do. It does sound as if your mother is not capable of living alone and you can't put your head in the sand about that because the outcome could be very bad. Perhaps you could help that situation by investigating some alternatives for her (either an assisted living facility or a sitter). Just because she needs care doesn't mean that you have to be the one giving it to her - but someone needs to facilitate that. A.D.
Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 02:37 GMT Thanks to all that responded...good advice all the way round....I went and got mom today and took her to see dad....so I feel I have done my part for awhile....I am limiting further information because someone took this post I left and posted it all over usenet with comments about me and my family....I need the support but I am scared to say anything further....hope all of you are doing okay...Love B
Evelyn Ruut - 08 Nov 2004 02:45 GMT > Thanks to all that responded...good advice all the way round....I went > and got mom today and took her to see dad....so I feel I have done my > part for awhile....I am limiting further information because someone > took this post I left and posted it all over usenet with comments about > me and my family....I need the support but I am scared to say anything > further....hope all of you are doing okay...Love B Boydette, I am so sorry you are having problems.
We have a few disgruntled former posters who are just so difficult and hate filled, that they do nothing but look for something to pick at. You aren't alone. I suddenly have been receiving virus filled emails, (which fortunately I have enough protection in place to disarm before they do any harm) but someone has hijacked my email address, even with the little trick I included there to prevent it.
Someone has been trying to send me an email with a similar address to mine, but it is a fake one, so I get notified but it doesn't go through.
There are a few trolls, and there are also some mean people out there. Give it some time and they may get bored and go away, but please don't let them get your goat. I don't let them get mine.....
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Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 06:33 GMT Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall
Stephen B - 08 Nov 2004 09:39 GMT >Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything >sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with >pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported >them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel >is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall It may be too late at this point, unless you wish to abandon your current email address, but I would urge not using your real email address in the "from" field of any postings to the Internet. Unfortunately, I don't know if this is possible on webtv. I am sorry that you've been targeted by some nut. It is discouraging that posting to a support newsgroup seems to attract this kind of stuff. Take care, -steve
Rommel, you magnificent bastard I read your book!!! - 08 Nov 2004 11:03 GMT > Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything > sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with > pictures of me and my family and posted lewd comments....I have reported > them to abuse and am waiting to hear ....how some people cam be so cruel > is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my downfall We didn't find anything, idiot...***you*** posted the link that got shortened, allowing your front page to be viewed, all because you thought it'd be real neat to troll w/ your website's backpage fake photo.
b.t.w. I reported you to webtv for posting your stalker threats on Usenet, and even fwd the private e-mails that you sent to me...they might get a kick out of your threats to stalk by using the private info that you claim to have. Changing your screen name didn't matter, they still know what account it came from, troll. :)
donnah - 08 Nov 2004 15:40 GMT (((Boydette))) Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out. I had a similar problem last year on my "gimp" group. My ISP and the police got involved and it was taken care of in an efficient manner...not as fast as I wanted, but they were very thorough. donnah
> Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything > sensitive...this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > is beyond me...I am just so trusting and naive and that is my > downfall Evelyn Ruut - 08 Nov 2004 15:31 GMT > (((Boydette))) > Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out. I had a > similar problem last year on my "gimp" group. My ISP and the police got > involved and it was taken care of in an efficient manner...not as fast as > I wanted, but they were very thorough. > donnah Boydette, just want to endorse what Donnah said. I have also been the victim of trolls, and sometimes the victim of the simply intolerant types as well. The only thing to do is hang tough and don't let the a.sholes get you down. There are all too many of them around.
There is no way we can please everybody, so if we can find a way to please ourselves, that is the best we can do.
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(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")
donnah - 08 Nov 2004 16:26 GMT LOL, Evelyn! and no disrespect meant...I hesitated about using the word a.sholes (I usually use RO=rectal orifice :) as I wasn't sure how that would be received <g> I like your directness! and that description fits them to a T... donnah
>> (((Boydette))) >> Hang tough...BTDT and I know how hard it is, but it will work out. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There is no way we can please everybody, so if we can find a way to > please ourselves, that is the best we can do. Boydette - 08 Nov 2004 17:14 GMT sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control.....like I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont need it either....some people are just too evil for words
Darryl - 08 Nov 2004 19:20 GMT >sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying >to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control.....like >I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont >need it either....some people are just too evil for words Don't respond to anything that (s)he posts and (s)he'll move on.
Darryl.
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 23:30 GMT >From: Darryl <umpolung@REMOVEhotmail.com> > > Don't respond to anything that (s)he posts and (s)he'll move on. > > Darryl. Carol was told the very same thing (by the NONfeeders) way over a year ago and Carol *still* responds...today - I have a feeling that Boydette is just every bit as weak-willed as Carol has proven herself to be. You ask why? Easy. Boydette *entered* her "flamewar" by preaching the *Don't respond* advice to others, but of course Boydette never took her own advice.
<sigh>
Rommel, you magnificent bastard I read your book!!! - 08 Nov 2004 23:05 GMT > sorry guys I see the weirdo has followed me in here...and is now trying > to turn the tables on me out of desperation and damage control..... No, liar, you're the feeder/troll that absolutely started this...and continued by posting a fake photo, weeks after you blubbered out your empty 'gnore advice, too stupid to figure out that when you post a link to your backpage, of course people will be able to find the front page to the link that you provided.
> like I really need this with all I am going thru and I know some of yo dont > need it either....some people are just too evil for words Stalker, guess you should have thought twice before you e-mailed me twice, threatening me with the pretense that you have all of my private info and that you were going to act on it.
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 19:03 GMT > Thanks Evelyn....right now I am just too scared to post anything > sensitive... So...you're not even sure why you're on Usenet?
> this "TROLL" found my personal web site (on webtv) with > pictures of me and my family Pretty easy to "find" ...since *you* posted your web site URL - just because you posted an extended version of the link doesn't mean the URL can't be shortened to its original front page version.
> and posted lewd comments.... Loony, what was so "lewd" about saying "Mmmmmmmmm" or "Sweeeeeet!" or "<licking thumbs>"? You've said things that are way more "lewd" about your "daugher" ...haven't you? ;)
Oh well...
Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes - 08 Nov 2004 19:11 GMT > Give it some time and they may get bored and go away You're assuming that Boydette *wants* the "flamewar" to end - guess you didn't realize that Boydette is *still* making new replies about/to the postings that she's weeping about. Even after she claimed to be finished. ;)
Oh well...
caryrjr - 08 Nov 2004 19:24 GMT "Whenas in silks my pretty Jenna goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes" <JennaBush_Has_SexyFlesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:268b8afe.0411081111.11e8c78c@posting.google.com...
>> Give it some time and they may get bored and go away > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh well... It helps her gain sympathy... she thinks.
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