We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
decided that she had gallstones blocking a bile duct, though she is in no
pain. This can lead to pancreatitis and ultimately to death if not dealt
with.
We were given three options; The first would be to take out her gall
bladder but would involve general anesthesia, and you all know that general
anesthesia can make an alzheimer patient lose a lot of cognitive ability
very suddenly. The second choice would be to sedate her and go down her
throat endoscopically and see if they can get the duct cleared that way.
The third choice would be to do nothing but keep her comfortable through the
rest of her life and let nature take its course. We have opted for the
second choice. She goes to the hospital today, (which alone is very
confusing), and will receive more thorough testing to confirm the diagnosis,
then we will see what happens next.
The nursing home she is in has an excellent doctor who spoke to us at length
about our options and the entire situation.
Please wish Ida luck. I am a bit numb right now, since now I have my 91
year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
When it rains, it pours.

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Camille - 24 Sep 2004 17:09 GMT
I am so sorry to hear that Ida is sick and requires a procedure. I'm sure
you are making the decision that is best for Ida. I will keep y;all in my
thoughts and hope for a successful outcome.
Camille
> We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
> faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
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> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
> When it rains, it pours.
Gwen Love - 24 Sep 2004 20:26 GMT
Evelyn, so sorry this happened and especially while you have your dad with
you. Pray all will go well with Ida.
Gwen
> We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
> faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
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> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
> When it rains, it pours.
Robert E. Lewis - 25 Sep 2004 01:01 GMT
> We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
> faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
> decided that she had gallstones blocking a bile duct, though she is in no
> pain. This can lead to pancreatitis and ultimately to death if not dealt
> with.
...
> She goes to the hospital today, (which alone is very
> confusing), and will receive more thorough testing to confirm the diagnosis,
> then we will see what happens next.
...
> Please wish Ida luck. I am a bit numb right now, since now I have my 91
> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
> When it rains, it pours.
I do wish Ida luck, and you and your husband as well. Poor Ida -- I hope
they're able to accomplish it without too much trauma and pain.

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turkey in the straw - 25 Sep 2004 04:03 GMT
Evelyn,
My prayers are with you all.
Evelyn Ruut - 25 Sep 2004 12:46 GMT
Thanks so much everybody for your good wishes. She is in the hospital as I
write this, and I am not sure of the status of things, being that this is a
weekend. Peter saw her last evening and tried to explain to her. She said
she didn't want to be there, but she knew she had to be there. Amazing
that sometimes she gets these good moments. This one came at the right
time.

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Evelyn
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> We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
> faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
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> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
> When it rains, it pours.
Evelyn Ruut - 25 Sep 2004 14:29 GMT
Hi friends,
Heard from the doctor. It isn't a stone, it is a "mass"....... They will do
the endoscopy, take a biopsy and install a stent so she has no pain.
After discussion with the Dr. on what it means and all our options, we will
not treat it aggressively. Nature will take its course and every
opportunity to keep her comfortable will be exercised.
Please pray she goes quickly and with little pain. I am heartsick, but I
realize it is the way of all things.

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Evelyn
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> Thanks so much everybody for your good wishes. She is in the hospital as
> I write this, and I am not sure of the status of things, being that this
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>> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
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Gwen Love - 25 Sep 2004 17:24 GMT
Will be praying for a quick, painless passing for Ida, and for you and
Peter.
Gwen
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> >> When it rains, it pours.
John Inzer - 25 Sep 2004 19:41 GMT
> Hi friends,
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> Please pray she goes quickly and with little pain. I am
> heartsick, but I realize it is the way of all things.
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FWIW, I think you have made the correct decision.
No one could have done a better job caring for Ida
than you and Peter. Now the time has come that we
all dread but in many ways it may be for the best.
Maybe now Ida can reunite with Pelli.

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Camille - 25 Sep 2004 20:44 GMT
I'm sorry to hear this. Ida, Peter, and you will be in my thoughts that
this will go easily on all of you.
Camille
> Hi friends,
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>>> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
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Dennis P. Harris - 26 Sep 2004 06:25 GMT
> Please pray she goes quickly and with little pain. I am heartsick, but I
> realize it is the way of all things.
Evelyn, I will do so. I'm certain that you will do everything
you can to keep her comfortable.
You are in my prayers.
Susan Kohn - 26 Sep 2004 09:02 GMT
Evelyn:
Please consider calling your local hospice for help. We have specialized
teams that work in Nursing Homes providing pain management for patients and
support to family members.
If you are interested in this option and I can provide any referrals for
you, please let me know as I work in hospice here in Buffalo. My thoughts
are with you as you traverse this new road. My sister and I hope that my
mother will "get" something else that will allow her to die more quickly
than the Alzheimer's does. We think that our mother hopes for the same
thing as she resumed smoking after her diagnosis two and a half years ago.
Susan
> > Please pray she goes quickly and with little pain. I am heartsick, but I
> > realize it is the way of all things.
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> You are in my prayers.
Evelyn Ruut - 26 Sep 2004 14:32 GMT
Thank you all.
Susan I will definitely contact hospice and soon.

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Robert E. Lewis - 26 Sep 2004 15:36 GMT
> Hi friends,
>
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> Please pray she goes quickly and with little pain. I am heartsick, but I
> realize it is the way of all things.
You all will be in my thoughts; I do hope it is swift and painless.
Barbara Rose - 25 Sep 2004 20:09 GMT
So sorry Evelyn. I do hope Ida doesn't get any pain.
You and your family are in my thoughts.
Barb in UK
> We are faced with the same awful catch 22 decision that so many here have
> faced before us. Ida suddenly became jaundiced. They tested her and
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> year old dad staying with me for a few days and this was so unexpected.
> When it rains, it pours.