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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / January 2005Opinions on Mangosteen juice
The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this one of those 'too good to be true' things? Post to me ferma001@umn.edu for repost to the listserv. Or go to yahoo groups and sign on to the listserv and repost there besides here. From: alzheimers@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: [alzheimers] Digest Number 309 Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:56:16 -0000 From: "gmduval" <gmduval@yahoo.com> Subject: alzheimers testimonial Hi Everyone, just wanted to share this awesome testimonial with you that I came across, hope this will give encouragement to those who suffer from this horrible disease..enjoy Future Hope for Alzheimer's My Father at the young age of 64 started having problems at work and had to retire early. He was then diagnosed with a very aggressive form of Alzheimer's. He is now in a home because my mother couldn't handle him anymore. He worked as a very successful Autobodyman and may have ingested a lot of chemicals. A friend of mine gave me a bottle of [mangosteen juice] and I had read that it may help with Alzheimer's. We thought we would have nothing to lose as he is now in a very vegetative state. He didn't know anyone, He couldn't feed himself and he couldn't even talk anymore. We got him on 1 oz of [mangosteen juice] per day and on the 5th day he called my son by his name. We were all shocked! He continued taking 1 oz per day and he has now been feeding himself consistently for 25 days! He is more alert and happy. He even looks and smiles at me when I visit him. He is now even communicating with us a little. We are now increasing his dosage to 2 oz per day with his doctors' blessing and we are all excited to see what happens This product has created much excitement for our family! I wish we would have had this product 5 years ago. I want people to understand that my father is pretty far gone but has had somewhat amazing results due to taking this product. I truly believe this product offers new hope to other people. I would like to say a special thanks to Grace D. for sharing this product with our family. Many thanks to XanGo as well. Coleen Melsted Update: Hi Everyone this testimonial really needs an update. My dad is doing great. He's walking, talking, eating on his own happy very familiar with family members and friends! He's improving everyday! We are all very excited to see where he will be in the next few months. This has really added quality to his life and ours as well. I encourage you to let people know about this juice, you may be able to help them avoid what our family has gone through! Have a great day! Coleen Please note that the company, XanGo, makes no medical or therapeutic claims about their product, XanGo. XanGo is made with the whole Mangosteen fruit that is rich with Xanthones. Xanthones have been researched by independent scientists and medical doctors who have no affiliation with XanGo. Many of the abstracts of their papers can be found at www.pubmed.com Any testimonial you hear or read about is not to suggest that you might have the same reaction. We merely say, "Try XanGo and see what benefits you receive." For more information: http://messageboard611357.aimoo.com > The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this > one of those 'too good to be true' things? I don't think it's possible to speak too highly of Mangosteen (TM) juice, and, by golly, you can add my name to the list of testimonials. My father was scoring 18 on the MMRI. He could barely form a coherent sentence. Without telling him, we replaced the fine coffee he usually drinks at breakfast with warm Mangosteen(TM) juice, and on the second morning, he said, 'What the **** is this ***?!' Drinking two ounces of Mangosteen(TM) juice every morning, after just six weeks, he was named as a judge for the gymnastics competition at the Athens Olympics, and while in Greece in his spare time he deciphered the archaic Mycenean B language; Two weeks later he was given back his old job as chief document analyst for CBS News; and just this morning he drafted a blueprint for Peace in the Middle East (unfortunately, the blueprint is written in Mycenean B, a language only he can... or could... read). Inspired by Dad's awesome results, I started drinking Mangosteen(TM) juice myself, and while drinking the very first glass while sitting at my computer, I discovered seventeen new security flaws in Microsoft Internet Explorer. I bathe in the stuff, and it's cured my hemorrhoids and acne. Drinking Mangosteen(TM) juice caused a dramatic increase in... uh.. certain bodily emissions, but I am assured by a panel of Independent Mangosteen(TM) juice researchers that those gasses are actually *good* for the ozone layer. And Mangosteen(TM) juice is excellent for pre-treating those embarrassing laundry stains that result from *drinking* Mangosteen(TM) juice. Mixed with equal parts baking soda, Mangosteen(TM) juice is an excellent buffing compound to remove scratches from your car's paint finish, and added at your next oil change, will increase your gas mileage by up to 67%. Submerging my telephone in a tub of Mangosteen(TM) juice put an end to those annoying telemarketers' calls. Pouring concentrated Mangosteen(TM) juice into the speaker of my television set muted those irritating advertisements (ok, so it muted *all* the audio coming out of my TV -- at least I don't have to listen to those ads anymore). I am a little bit worried about the long-term safety of Mangosteen(TM) juice, though. As an experiment, when a door-to-door vitamin salesman showed up on my doorstep the other day, I submerged his head in a vat of Mangosteen(TM) juice, and I'm afraid he suffered a violent reaction, sputtering and jerking violently. What's more, after fewer than five minutes with his head fully submerged in Mangosteen(TM) juice, the salesman stopped breathing altogether -- not a good sign. Further experiments with a missionary, a vacuum-cleaner salesman and a kid selling band candy produced similar adverse effects. So until we have some further testing, and the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry can show that lab rats genetically predisposed to cancer can live longer than Mickey Rooney being daily force-fed five times their body weight in Mangosteen(TM) juice, I have to say that it's just not worth the risk, the product should be banned and dumped down desert mineshafts and anybody who's touched the stuff should be required to wear a warning label and be kept away from children, women who are pregnant, who may become pregnant, have ever been pregnant, and anyone who is related to any woman who has ever been pregnant. Or am I thinking of colloidal silver...?  SignatureRobert > I don't think it's possible to speak too highly of Mangosteen (TM) juice, > and, by golly, you can add my name to the list of testimonials. ahhh, robert! thanks for turning a ridiculous spam into a laugh fest! it was just what i needed tonight! hey, i know this samoan ex-linebacker that's looking for investors for a mangosteen(tm) plantation... ;^) > > I don't think it's possible to speak too highly of Mangosteen (TM) juice, > > and, by golly, you can add my name to the list of testimonials. > > > ahhh, robert! thanks for turning a ridiculous spam into a laugh > fest! it was just what i needed tonight! I must object to be called a spammer. I read the mangosteen in a responsible alzheimer support listserv, but was suspicious so reposted here to get other opinions. I would feel it my responsibility to forward any factual evaluations posted here to that listserv. So far the majority of posters to that listserv have been actual people grappling with ill loved ones and caregivers. In addition, I reposted to just one place - this newsgroup - spammer's post to many places simultaneously. > hey, i know this samoan ex-linebacker that's looking for > investors for a mangosteen(tm) plantation... ;^) >> > I don't think it's possible to speak too highly of Mangosteen (TM) >> > juice, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of posters to that listserv have been actual people grappling with ill > loved ones and caregivers. I'm not sure anyone was calling *you* the spammer, I took it as read they were referring to the original message, to which you referred. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > I must object to be called a spammer. I read the mangosteen in a > responsible alzheimer support listserv, but was suspicious so reposted > here to get other opinions. I would feel it my responsibility to forward > any factual evaluations posted here to that listserv. So far the majority > of posters to that listserv have been actual people grappling with ill > loved ones and caregivers. first, it's NOT a listserv, it's usenet, and it's an alt. newsgroup. second, what you posted was NOT a "factual evaluation", it was a repeat of a SPAM sent to some other newsgroup or mailing list instead of summarizing it, you posted the whole damn thing, which was suspicious. spammers often fake being someone "who just heard of this" so that they can sneak their spam into newsgroups while making it look like it's someone who is just checking out something someone else posted. it's a common ruse that many of us have seen over and over, along with posting using the name and address of someone in the group. we've seen enough of it that it really raised the BS detector. > In addition, I reposted to just one place - this newsgroup - spammer's > post to many places simultaneously. how is anyone reading this newsgroup going to know that? it quacked like a duck, so many of assumed it was a duck. > > I must object to be called a spammer. I read the mangosteen in a > > responsible alzheimer support listserv, but was suspicious so reposted [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > newsgroup or mailing list instead of summarizing it, you posted > the whole damn thing, which was suspicious. First, alt.support.alzheimers is not the only place family of and caregivers of alzheimer patients can talk about what they are going through, sometimes with cries for help. I believe the listserv can be found in yahoogroups, alzheimers@yahoogroups.com. Second, I couldn't very well seek factual commentary from MY summary - the post was submitted so that its merits could be evaluated on the basis of its content. Third, one could go to yahoogroups, subscribe to the alzheimers listserv, then examine the archive for the past several days or so, and verify that 'a testimonial' thing about mangosteen was posted there. My next step is to try and get the poster of that cynical thing booted off the listserv. It does have a list administrator who has that power. One sad part is that alzheimers@yahoogroups.com might have to go to moderated only in order to block such garbage. Can you even begin to imagine how some family caregiver who is in the depths of despair might see 'mangosteen' as a salvation - posts of the mangosteen kind and cruel. > spammers often fake being someone "who just heard of this" so > that they can sneak their spam into newsgroups while making it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > how is anyone reading this newsgroup going to know that? it > quacked like a duck, so many of assumed it was a duck. >> > I must object to be called a spammer. I read the mangosteen in a >> > responsible alzheimer support listserv, but was suspicious so reposted [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > some family caregiver who is in the depths of despair might see > 'mangosteen' as a salvation - posts of the mangosteen kind and cruel. snake oil has been peddled for centuries, this is nothing new. At least there are plenty of people now who can point out, sometimes amusingly as recently, the stupidity of these type of claims. And then again there are plenty of people who continue to believe in mangosteen juice, astrology and homeopathy (aka water). SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > Second, I couldn't very well seek factual commentary from > MY summary - the post was submitted so that its merits > could be evaluated on the basis of its content. ======================================== You could certainly research on the net with Google, Google Groups, or other search engines. If you had you would have discovered that it's a multilevel marketing gimmick. Check these links: http://www.gwbcorp.xangoweb.com/ http://www.myxango.com/LifeOnXanGo/ http://tinyurl.com/64y6b In one of your previous messages you said you were suspicious... Hmmm....it seems that you failed to mention that in your first post when you said: "Hi Everyone, just wanted to share this awesome testimonial with you that I came across, hope this will give encouragement to those who suffer from this horrible disease..enjoy" ======================================== > Can you even begin to imagine how some family > caregiver who is in the depths of despair might see > 'mangosteen' as a salvation - posts of the mangosteen > kind and cruel. ======================================== Of course we can *imagine*...that's precisely why we don't appreciate it when the *Cure of the week* is posted here. SignatureJohn Inzer return e-mail disabled >In one of your previous messages you said you were >suspicious... Hmmm....it seems that you failed to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >will give encouragement to those who suffer from >this horrible disease..enjoy" In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from the listserv. Darryl emailed me to get name of the yahoo listserv. As I only deleted the remove letter my answer may not have gotten through. So here is the link: health.groups.yahoo.com/group/alzheimers Like Darryl, I got 36 hits searching yahoo, too - seems as the interest in alzheimers has grown since I last visited and subscribed. In the search it is the one with 141 members (as of 10 minutes ago) and for members only. But it is easy to become a member. So Darryl, if my email reply fails to get through the above is the info you asked for. > >In one of your previous messages you said you were > >suspicious... Hmmm....it seems that you failed to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from the > listserv. > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from > the listserv. ================================== It's not my job to sort out who wrote what in a message that is a blatent attempt to recruit folks into a multilevel marketing scheme. All I know for sure is that it was posted in this newsgroup by a new contributor. This type of look what I found, what do you think... is classic spamming. In most instances...when a new contributor shows up with the cure of the week...it's not too hard to figure out what's going on. If this instance is an exception...so be it. So...Jack....welcome to the group...tell us about the AD patient you're taking care of. SignatureJohn Inzer return e-mail disabled > > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from > > the listserv. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I know for sure is that it was posted in this > newsgroup by a new contributor. In this post the material behind the > characters is what the last poster wrote. If there are >> characters, that would be 2nd poster back. And so on. So if your newsreader strips out the > characters, then you have little chance in sorting things out. Is that what your reader does? > This type of look what I found, what do you think... > is classic spamming. In most instances...when > a new contributor shows up with the cure of the > week...it's not too hard to figure out what's going > on. If this instance is an exception...so be it. Classic spamming entails two features: posting to multiple newsgroups simulataneously; non-germaine speech or untruthful speech or trolling for something. > So...Jack....welcome to the group...tell us about > the AD patient you're taking care of. Well, we are out of it now as she died 3 years ago. And I am 75 years and quite vulnerable to contracting AD. My game is to gather as much posted situations as I can, so that my wife will be aware of as wide a spectrum of tools as I can find. This material is being compiled without telling her, but it will be in a folder when and if the time comes. Yes, there are books and doctors & nurses but sometimes experiences of just plain folks is more helpful. That is why I put the mangosteen thing up - to get opinions or knowledge of just plain folks. The best reply on this NG has been repoted to the alzheimers listserv and so far one person has privately thanked me for the effort. That one thank you is worth more than the numerous bad-mouthings seen here. I hold no grudge. I want to thank all those who contributed to this thread. >> > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message >> > from the listserv. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > numerous bad-mouthings seen here. I hold no grudge. I > want to thank all those who contributed to this thread. ================================= Thanks anyway for the training but I manage ok in the newsgroups. Seems like a simple "sorry for the disruption" would be better than all the defensive tactics. Anyway...now you know what this group thinks about the original subject matter. Why did you change your name? Seems like a 75 year old man would know if his name is Jack or John. Maybe you do have AD. SignatureJohn Inzer return e-mail disabled > > > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from > > > the listserv. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > thank you is worth more than the numerous bad-mouthings seen here. I > hold no grudge. I want to thank all those who contributed to this For the second time today I am going to recommend a "living will". It is all very good that you are collecting information, and keeping it in a file for your wife. However, in keeping it secret, she may never find your wishes and know how to act upon them. She may predecease you and your children or others may not know what your wishes are. And even if all of them do, they may choose not to act on behalf of your wishes or your interest. Personally I think the mangosteen phenomena is a bunch of Multi-Level-Marketing hooey. However, if you find that you wish to use it in any future course of therapy that is your choice. Make it and any other of your desires known and available to others in order for them to legally and formally implement those desires. You don't need to inform anyone of those desires before the right time approaches. Get a Living Will. Dennis White > > > In all fairness, this was part of the quoted message from > > > the listserv. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > simulataneously; non-germaine speech or untruthful speech or trolling > for something. I think you need to redefine the criteria you use to identify spamming: it's so common now to filter multiple-newsgroup crossposting that spammers post the messages individually to multiple groups. In fact, I found spam for this Xango company's mangosteen juice ($30 a bottle, $100 a case!) posted to another newsgroup just yesterday -- not crossposted. It's even less reasonable in the case of a listserv; I'm moderator of a couple of Yahoogroups, and you *cannot* make a single post to our group and any other -- it gets bounced. 'Non-germane speech' -- well, it make sense for someone selling snake-oil medicines to market them in places where people with health problems congregate, so the fact it was touted as a cure in a newsgroup full of people seeking cures is *not* a reasonable indicator of it being a non-spam post. Anecdotal tales of near-miraculous recovery qualify to at least be suspected of being 'untruthful speech.' And the post was *not* a testimonial posted by someone using the product. It features a testimonial and follows up with a plain advertisement: *We merely say, "Try XanGo and *see what benefits you receive." * *For more information: * address snipped When a non-participant of a group appears in a newsgroup and posts or reposts an advertisement for a product of dubious medical claims, it's not unreasonable for people to suspect it was done knowingly. I don't know whether that's the case here, but it was a reasonable suspicion and reaction. SignatureRobert (Who had pour grammer with his father untill him and me started drinking Mangosteen(TM) juice - they're product is the most greatest thing that ever happened to him and I, with it's medical benefit's.) > When a non-participant of a group appears in a newsgroup > and posts or reposts an advertisement for a product of > dubious medical claims, it's not unreasonable for people > to suspect it was done knowingly. I don't know whether > that's the case here, but it was a reasonable suspicion > and reaction. ==================================== Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Bingo! SignatureJohn Inzer return e-mail disabled Actually they did ask if it was to good or not and it is in the body of the "testimonial" where it states new hope etc etc etc QUOTE The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this one of those 'too good to be true' things? Post to me ferma001@umn.edu for repost to the listserv. Or go to yahoo groups and sign on to the listserv and repost there besides here. From: alzheimers@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: [alzheimers] Digest Number 309 Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:56:16 -0000 From: "gmduval" <gmduval@yahoo.com> Subject: alzheimers testimonial Hi Everyone, just wanted to share this awesome testimonial with you that I came across, hope this will give encouragement to those who suffer from this horrible disease..enjoy Future Hope for Alzheimer's UNQUOTE > In one of your previous messages you said you were > suspicious... Hmmm....it seems that you failed to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > will give encouragement to those who suffer from > this horrible disease..enjoy" OOps, the rest of the thread just came down and see that it has been discussed at large, bowing out grinning with red face > Actually they did ask if it was to good or not and it is in the body of > the "testimonial" where it states new hope etc etc etc [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> will give encouragement to those who suffer from >> this horrible disease..enjoy" > Third, one could go to yahoogroups, subscribe to the alzheimers listserv, > then examine the archive for the past several days or so, and verify that > 'a testimonial' thing about mangosteen was posted there. it wasn't a "testimonial" it was SPAM, something that anyone with an ounce of common sense could determine. > My next step is to try and get the poster of that cynical thing booted off > the listserv. It does have a list administrator who has that power. One > sad part is that alzheimers@yahoogroups.com might have to go to moderated > only in order to block such garbage. that's not unusual for even brain damaged listservs like yahoogroups. i am the administrator for a dozen membership-only yahoo groups, which are membership only for just that reason. btw, posting to usenet newsgroups with your real email address, as you have been doing, is *guaranteed* to put you on spammer mailing lists forever. > Can you even begin to imagine how > some family caregiver who is in the depths of despair might see > 'mangosteen' as a salvation - posts of the mangosteen kind and cruel. no, i can't. no matter how desperate i might be, i *never* succumb to snake oil sales pitches, and i've learned to spot them a mile away. you must be incredibly naive to fall for that obvious spam, spam, spam. > > Third, one could go to yahoogroups, subscribe to the alzheimers listserv, > > then examine the archive for the past several days or so, and verify that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > as you have been doing, is *guaranteed* to put you on spammer > mailing lists forever. I do Macintosh and my main ISP has a very powerful spam blocker. The last time I looked there were some 50 spams being held. Users may choose for how long a message will be held before auto dumping - I think I choose 5 days > > Can you even begin to imagine how > > some family caregiver who is in the depths of despair might see [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a mile away. you must be incredibly naive to fall for that > obvious spam, spam, spam. I would guess you have a pretty strong constitution, but many do not. As I understand spam, spam is something untrue in the first instance. I assess this mangosteen juice to be in the snake oil category. Shysters have been peddling such for many decades. The first ones used mule wagons and maybe trained monkeys with tin cups. ROFL!!! Camille >> The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this >> one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Or am I thinking of colloidal silver...? > ROFL!!! Camille, If you want a *real* laugh go to google and enter the word "Xango" which is the brand name, NOT Mangosteen (TM) that was so dastardly satirized in an earlier post<g>. 86,600 hits and counting...and almost every one is for a person selling the stuff from home! Hurrah for Multi-Level Marketing!!!! Dennis White Lol. And I just finished wording my scientific retort. It's early. I need coffee. Thanks for the laugh. Darryl. >> The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this >> one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Or am I thinking of colloidal silver...? > > The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this > > one of those 'too good to be true' things? > > I don't think it's possible to speak too highly of Mangosteen (TM) juice, > and, by golly, you can add my name to the list of testimonials. Evan's "doctor" suggested Mangosteen. Not suprisingly, he was "distributor" or "partner" or whatever they call schills these days. I was going to say more about the stuff, but I think Jack's post just about sums it up. Dennis White > The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this > one of those 'too good to be true' things? Yes (and I havent even read the message) SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this >one of those 'too good to be true' things? Yes. The 'post' to which you refer comes from a distributor of Xango. http://surfcrazy.com/xango/benefits.htm. Garcinia mangostana is commonly know as Mangosteen and is referred to as "The Queen of Fruits" Of the 33 hits on Garcinia mangostana at pubmed, none of them use Alzheimer's as a keyword. Some of the rat and _in vitro_ studies suggest that it may be useful one day in the treatment of cancer and it was by this approach that Xango was first marketed. Almost every fruit extract tested shows some type of activity. If you want to throw away your money, I'll give you my address. For a similar case of a magical fruit, read up on Tahitian Noni... http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/noni.html A *press-release* suggests that mangosteen works in the following ways. Sound too good to be true? "Anti-Alzheimer's & Parkinsons and other forms of dementia; anti-depressant & anti-anxiety; lowers blood fat & high blood pressure; normalizes blood sugar (a god-send for diabetics & hypoglycemics); prevents gum disease; relieves bronchitis; prevents and arrests fungus; lowers fever; prevents glaucoma and cataracts; alleviates menstrual problems; anti-bacterial & anti-viral; effective against dermatitis and acne; anti-diarrheal; alleviates athritis; anti-tumor & anti-cancer; helps to normalize body weight; boosts energy; has unsurpassed anti-aging properties; etc." http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/3/prweb111360.htm I found the following comments using Google... "Thus, despite what you may read at any one of those 21,000 promotional websites, very little scientific evidence exists concerning mangosteen's anticancer activity in humans. In my opinion, what we have here is simply an overpriced fruit drink. Fruit drinks are often healthful beverages. But the only reason I can see that the promoters of mangosteen can get away with charging $37 for this product is that they are playing on patients' hopes and fears in a cynical way. Without the health claims, open or implied, the product could only be sold for at most $5 or $6 (which, for example, is the cost of antioxidant-rich pomegranate juice). The mangosteen phenomenon is a reprise of the aloe vera, gingko biloba, and especially the noni juice story, complete with exaggerated claims for the health benefits of an exotic fruit. It should come as no surprise that both the President and the Chief Financial Officer of Xango once worked for Morinda (now called Tahitian Noni International). Compounds found in plants have long been of great interest to cancer researchers. We must never forget that about one-fifth of all chemotherapeutic agents (including Vincristine, Vinblastine, Etoposide, Teniposide, and Taxol) are ultimately derived from plant sources. Many of these took a long time to pass through the regulatory process, since serious research into botanical medicine often goes begging for financial and intellectual support. Starved of funds in this way, the riches of the natural world are often neglected by mainstream science, only to be plundered by less scrupulous organizations. The patient loses twice - by not having the fruits of serious research and by being deceived by slick operators posing as friends and benefactors. Some may even opt for unproven miracle juices in lieu of more certain therapies that might save their lives. When it comes to cancer, we truly live in a topsy-turvy world." ========== Darryl. Thank you, Darryl. I'll repost to the listserv, unless you object. ferma001@umn.edu > >The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this > >one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Darryl. >Thank you, Darryl. I'll repost to the listserv, unless you object. >ferma001@umn.edu Go right ahead and thanks for asking! Darryl. >> >The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this >> >one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >> >> Darryl. > >The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this > >one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > suggest that it may be useful one day in the treatment of cancer and > it was by this approach that Xango was first marketed. LOL! Be sure to check *whose* studies. BTW, subsequent studies by independent researchers suggest Mangosteen *may* be mildly carcinogenic! Dennis White >> >The following post came across on the alzheimers yahoo listserv. Is this >> >one of those 'too good to be true' things? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >LOL! Be sure to check *whose* studies. Most of the articles seem to be in fairly reputable peer-reviewed journals. They are for the most part, however, simple studies that would probably evoke favorable responses even in the case of the lowly orange (which must be 'exotic' to certain peoples ;-) Don't get me wrong, it's obviously being sold for the wrong reason. >BTW, subsequent studies by >independent researchers suggest Mangosteen *may* be mildly carcinogenic! I haven't come across any of these studies although I did find this overview which supports its designation alongside colloidal silver. Well, not quite, it's still a tasty-looking fruit and it happens to be in the same family as St. John's Wort. http://chetday.com/mangosteen.htm snip... .> >BTW, subsequent studies by > >independent researchers suggest Mangosteen *may* be mildly carcinogenic! > > I haven't come across any of these studies although I did find this > overview which supports its designation alongside colloidal silver. > Well, not quite, it's still a tasty-looking fruit and it happens to be > in the same family as St. John's Wort. I usually don't repeat claims without citing sources, but I did it in this case. I'll go back and find the studies that I referred to and post them for you. BTW my rule of thumb is to run quickly away from any product that uses the terms "ancient" and "secret"in it's description. :-) Dennis ... > LOL! Be sure to check *whose* studies. BTW, subsequent studies by > independent researchers suggest Mangosteen *may* be mildly carcinogenic! Hey, in that case I'm gonna keep drinking it -- at least I'd get a 'mild cancer'! |
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