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ke'iko - 07 Jan 2005 20:09 GMT
Hi to all,

I'm a new alt healing student interested in linking: A Course in
Miracles, Serge K. King's Huna, the Order of Kane, Mary Barker Eddy's
Christian Science healing, Carolyn Miller's Creating Miracles, and the
likes to the New Testament as an alt healing therapy.

Take for example the case of Mr. Wright from Steven Lock's the Healer
Within.  This is a case in which Mr. Wright, a terminal cancer patient
that was expected to die within three days, was given an experimental
cancer drug on Friday and was well on his way to complete recovery on
the following Monday.  Within a short period of time he was fully
cured.  However, when Mr. Wright learned that the drug proved to be a
failure, he found himself once again a dying man.  This happened a
second time, they doubled the dosage.  But unknown to him his doctor
gave him a placebo.  What happened the first time happened again, but
in this second attempt - he loss all hope and died.

In linking this case to Eddy's discipline I'm using the following quote
from: Seedtime and Harvest,
http://christiansciencebooks.rolf-witzsche.com/book-357.html
(find)

Everything is as real as you make it, and no more so.  What you see,
hear, feel, is a mode of consciousness, and can have no other reality
than the sense you entertain of it.

And from: A Course In Miracles, MANUAL FOR TEACHERS
http://www.unitedbeings.com/acim/Manual%20for%20Teachers%20a.htm
(find)
sickness is of the mind, and has nothing to do with the body.  What
does this recognition "cost"?  It costs the whole world you see, for
the world will never again appear to rule the mind.  For with this
recognition is responsibility placed where it belongs; not with the
world, but on him who looks on the world and sees it as it is not.  He
looks on what he chooses to see.

And from the New Testament:
Mark 9:23
"'If you can'?" said Jesus. "Everything is possible for him
who believes."
Mark 9:22-24 (in Context) Mark 9 (Whole Chapter)

Mark 10:27
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not
with God; all things are possible with God."
Mark 10:26-28 (in Context) Mark 10 (Whole Chapter)

John 11:40
Then Jesus said, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would
see the glory of God?"
John 11:39-41 (in Context) John 11 (Whole Chapter)
Does any of this makes any sense to anyone out there?

Ke'iko
Happy Dog - 07 Jan 2005 20:24 GMT
"ke'iko" <keiko4love@yahoo.com>

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> Everything is as real as you make it, and no more so.  What you see,
> hear, feel, is a mode of consciousness, and can have no other reality
> than the sense you entertain of it.

Bullshit.  The first step in dealing with reality is acknowledging it.
Reality is non-negotiable  If your perception is at odds with empirical
evidence, you're crazy.

moo
elm shrub - 08 Jan 2005 09:07 GMT
> Hi to all,
>
> I'm a new alt healing student interested in linking: A Course in
> Miracles, Serge K. King's Huna, the Order of Kane, Mary Barker Eddy's
> Christian Science healing, Carolyn Miller's Creating Miracles, and the
> likes to the New Testament as an alt healing therapy.

Here is a scientific study demonstrating benefits of laying on of hands to
mice with transplanted breast cancer:

http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/14.3_bengston_krinsley.pdf

Here is a method of laying-on-of-hands spiritual healing:

The person receiving healing should sit in a chair.

The healer stands behind the chair and places his hands on the shoulders of
the sitter.

The intention to heal is all that is necessary for healing to begin.
However the healer may visualize healing light coming down from God onto him
and then through his hands to the sitter. Alternatively, the healer can
mentally repeat a prayer asking for healing to occur. In self-healing the
sitter would do this for himself.

It is not necessary to touch the sitter. If receiver is bedridden the healer
and receiver may hold hands or the healer may just sit or stand near the
receiver.

This can continue for any amount of time, 5 to 20 minutes would be typical.
Repeat as often as desired, daily among family members or weekly from a
dedicated healer is typical. Do not expect miraculous results. Healing is
not synonymous with curing. Do not promise results. Do not make medical
diagnoses unless you have a license to do so. Results may come in unexpected
ways and times. Healing may manifest in acceptance of the condition or other
alternative experiences.

The healing does not come from the healer, it comes through him from a
higher source. The healer should be in a relaxed, alert, meditative state,
his mind should not be racing or wandering wildly, nor should it be alseep.
He should be physically and mentally relaxed and in good health. If he is
upset and cannot relax or (except in self healing) is in ill health, the
healing session should be
postponed.

Many different types of healing methods exist and the method that has proven
most effective for a given condition should be preferred. Therefore
spiritual healing is not a substitute for mainstream medicine, but it can be
used in conjunction with mainstream medical treatments.  Spiritual healing
may be be tried to help alleviate the side effects of drug or chemical
therapies, for recovery from surgery, for conditions where there is no
mainstream treatment, or mainstream treatment has proven ineffective. Always
advise your sitters to see a doctor if they have a serious condition.

Anyone can do this. Psychic ability is not required or even an indicator of
healing ability. The sitter does not need faith, it can be used on animals
and infants who do not understand anything about it.

Family members of the chronically ill can do this for their loved ones.

Spiritual healing is completely natural to human beings. Every parent who
has held a sick child and wished for its recovery has performed this type of
healing.

The more you practice healing the more effective you will become. The best
healers will have a sincere desire to help others with no thought of reward
or recognition.

You can give healing to those not present simply by sitting quietly,
entering a meditative state of mind, and  praying for healing to be given to
those you name. You may also visualize them in vigorous good health. The
length of time for healing would be the same as for laying on
of hands. It is typical to do this daily. You can heal more than one person
during a session by naming each person individually.

Just remember: The correct application of the healing force is in the spirit
of love.

"In 1992, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) created the Office of
Alternative Medicine.  The experts in this office found that Therapeutic
Touch has one of the strongest research bases of any of the
alternative/complementary modalities.  There are over two dozen doctoral
dissertations, dozens of master's theses, and many post-doctoral studies,
several of which have been funded by NIH. Research continues at a rigorous
pace in institutions of higher learning throughout the country.  TT is
accepted in a growing number of hospitals and universities throughout the
US, Canada and around the world."  - Nurse Healers Professional Associates
International

Recommended Reading:

The Therapeutic Touch: How to Use Your Hands to Help or to Heal By Dolores
Krieger
Psychic Healers by David St. Claire
Born To Heal by Ruth Montgomery
Happy Dog - 08 Jan 2005 09:30 GMT
"elm shrub" <elm@shrubdsxwerk.com> wrote in

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> "In 1992, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) created the Office of
> Alternative Medicine.  The experts in this office found that Therapeutic
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> US, Canada and around the world."  - Nurse Healers Professional Associates
> International

Bullshit.  It hypes a supposedly detectable "Human Energy Field".
Practitioners claim it's easily detectable.  But nobody seems to be able to
detect it under controlle circumstances.

moo
map - 08 Jan 2005 13:25 GMT
You are wrong, but don't let that slow you down.
> "elm shrub" <elm@shrubdsxwerk.com> wrote in
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> moo
Happy Dog - 08 Jan 2005 20:47 GMT
"map" <mapalmerlaw@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:ubRDd
> You are wrong, but don't let that slow you down.

Sez you.  Got some evidence to back that?  Kreiger et al absolutely refuse
to participate in tests that (if it existed) prove the existence of the HEF.
The last TTers who tried were shown up by a school girl.

After the WTC attack, Kreiger, TT's founder, had this to say:

"'I suggest the following.?I am doing healing at a distance, which I do by
visualising myself at [a dead victim's] side and see/feel/think of myself
doing therapeutic touch to that person. In this I am calling upon the help
of the angels of compassion.?My first thought is to help the person through
the terror of dying so suddenly and so horribly....I project that wondrous
blue that is connected with the Mother of the World in all belief
systems....'"

http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000002D268.htm
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/tt2.htm

moo

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>> moo
Hulda Clark Got Zapped - 28 Jan 2005 02:43 GMT
Top-posting Urine Fetishist, Med(S)tools wrote:

>You are wrong, but don't let that slow you down.

You are Med(S)tools...that has you grinding to a halt.

>> "elm shrub" <elm@shrubdsxwerk.com> wrote in
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>> moo
Happy Dog - 28 Jan 2005 03:00 GMT
> Top-posting Urine Fetishist, Med(S)tools wrote:
>
>>You are wrong, but don't let that slow you down.
>
> You are Med(S)tools...that has you grinding to a halt.

Bloviating piss-drinking w.nker (tools).  Are these guys "wrong" as well?

http://www.therapeutic-touch.org/default.asp

moo

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dog catcher - 08 Jan 2005 11:16 GMT
Hi, Kei'ko,

do you know how to block senders?

select a message from someone who is sending annoying messages

On outlook express select from the menu bar:

Message->block sender

Then no new messages from that sender will be downloaded

then you can also use the delete key to remove any message from that person
that you have already downloaded.

It is better not to reply to anyone who is annoying as it just encourages
them, once you have them blocked you will not know they are there.

> Hi to all,
>
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>
> Ke'iko
Mark Probert - 08 Jan 2005 14:39 GMT
Excellent idea! It allows anyone who is utterly clueless to avoid being
clued.

> Hi, Kei'ko,
>
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> >
> > Ke'iko
 
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