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aprilcanada - 27 Sep 2003 15:50 GMT
What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
so nothing will counteract.
Dave - 27 Sep 2003 16:40 GMT
> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> so nothing will counteract.

http://www.glowlife.com/
Mark Thorson - 27 Sep 2003 20:20 GMT
Here are some excerpts quoted from this file:
http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia9908.html

It's a huge file, so I've only kept the first part and
two pieces out of the remainder of the file.  I've
put a row of stars ****** to indicate where I deleted
material from the original file.  Follow the link if you
want to see the whole, unedited file.

********  BEGINNING OF QUOTED FILE  ************

IA #99-08,  ----  7/6/94      ATTACHMENT REVISED 9/23/03

SUBJECT:  REVISION TO IMPORT ALERT #99-08, "DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL
         EXAMINATION OF PROCESSED PRODUCTS FOR PESTICIDES"

*** This alert is being revised to reflect updated format
and to correct the charge.***

TYPE OF ALERT: Detention Without Physical Examination

Note:     This import alert contains guidance to FDA field
personnel only.  It does not establish any requirements,
or create any rights or obligations on FDA or on regulated
entities.

PRODUCT:       Processed Food Products

PRODUCT CODE:  See Attachment

PROBLEM:       Illegal Pesticide Residues

PAF:           PES (Pesticide Residues)

PAC FOR
COLLECTION:         04016A

COUNTRY:       See Attachment

MANUFACTURER/
SHIPPER:       See Attachment

MANUFACTURER/
SHIPPER I.D.#: See Attachment

IMPORTER'S
I.D. #:        N/A

CHARGE:        "The article is subject to refusal of admission
pursuant to Section 801(a)(3) in that it appears to contain
a pesticide chemical, namely ______________, which is
in violation of Section 402(a)(2)(B)."

OASIS CHARGE
CODE:          PESTICIDE

RECOMMENDING
OFFICE:        Division of Import Operations and Policy, HFC-170

REASON FOR
ALERT:         This alert provides a compilation of all processed foods
that may be subject to detention without physical examination due to
illegal pesticide residues pursuant to the procedures outlined in
Chapter 9 of the RPM.

GUIDANCE:      Districts may detain without physical examination
shipments of the products identified in the attachment if the shipper
or manufacturer fails to provide a valid certificate of analysis
showing the product does not contain illegal residues of the cited
pesticide(s).

A firm and product subject to detention without physical examination
for a specific pesticide under this import alert may also be exempt
from the detention recommendation on Attachment B of Import Alert
#99-15 for a different pesticide(s).  In that case, the firm is still
required to provide certification that the product is free from the
pesticide listed in the attachment to this import alert.  If the firm
cannot provide certification, the product should be detained with
the charge shown above.  The firm does not need to provide
certification that the product is free from the pesticides shown on
Import Alert #99-15.

In the attachment, the column listing the commodity shows the
episode number associated with the commodity directly below,
along with the abbreviation of the recommending district.

For questions or issues concerning science, science policy,
sample collection, analysis, preparation, or analytical
methodology, contact the Division of Field Science at
(301) 827-7650.

PRIORITIZATION
GUIDANCE:      I

FOI:           No purging required.

KEYWORDS:      Processed, pesticides, industrial chemicals, chemicals

PREPARED BY:   Ted Poplawski, DIOP, 301-443-6553.

DATE LOADED
INTO FIARS:         February 26, 2001

         INDIVIDUAL GROWERS/SHIPPERS RECOMMENDED FOR DWPE BY COUNTRY

COUNTRY:  ALGERIA

EFFECTIVE
COMMODITY       SHIPPER/MANUFACTURER              PESTICIDE(S)
DATE

************** DELETED PART OF FILE *****************

Ginseng        Bing Han Medical Factory      Quintozene
3/13/2001
(Powdered)     81, Cherng Gong Street             *Pentachlorobenzene
211-9414883-5  Ell Jeun Village, Taiwan      *Tetrachloroaniline
I290230/120531 FEI# 3003196781               *Hexachlorobenzene
54F[]R12 - SEA                               *BHC
Shipper: Bing Han (Canada)    *Pentachloroaniline
Enterprises. Ltd.            *Tecnazene
210-7911 Alderbridge Way      *Pentachlorothioanisole
              Richmond B.C., Canada
              FEI# 3003196782

************** DELETED PART OF FILE *****************

Ginseng        Bing Han Medical Factory Quintozene     3/13/2001
(Powdered)     81,  Cherng Gong Street       *Pentachlorobenzene
211-9414883-5  Ell Jeun Village, Taiwan *Tetrachloroaniline
I290230/120531 FEI# 3003196781               *Hexachlorobenzene
54F[]R12 - SEA                          *BHC
Shipper: Bing Han (Canada)    *Pentachloroaniline
               Enterprises. Ltd.       *Tecnazene
              210-7911 Alderbridge Way *Pentachlorothioanisole
              Richmond B.C., Canada
              FEI# 3003196782

************** DELETED PART OF FILE *****************
David Wright - 27 Sep 2003 21:15 GMT
>> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
>> so nothing will counteract.
>
>http://www.<badspam>.com/

Take note that lowlife Dave is a spammer of the worst sort.  Note also
that neither he, nor any other reader of this newsgroup, has any idea
of what might underlie your lack of energy.

Have you seen a doctor?  Any medical tests done?  What do you know, or
not know about your condition?  How long has this been going on?
Might you be depressed over something?  Are you getting enough sleep?

Those are just a few of the questions you'd need to answer just to
allow someone to make an initial stab at understanding your sitaution.

You will *not* get answers from lowlife spammers whose only interest
in you is how many bucks they can extract from you (despite their
protestations of altruism).

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Dave - 27 Sep 2003 21:31 GMT
> >> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> >> so nothing will counteract.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> in you is how many bucks they can extract from you (despite their
> protestations of altruism).

THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY QUACKBUSTERS

Our motto is quack, quack, quack.
Mark Thorson - 27 Sep 2003 21:57 GMT
Ginseng        Bing Han Medical Factory      Quintozene
3/13/2001
(Powdered)     81, Cherng Gong Street             *Pentachlorobenzene
211-9414883-5  Ell Jeun Village, Taiwan      *Tetrachloroaniline
I290230/120531 FEI# 3003196781               *Hexachlorobenzene
54F[]R12 - SEA                               *BHC
Shipper: Bing Han (Canada)    *Pentachloroaniline
Enterprises. Ltd.            *Tecnazene
210-7911 Alderbridge Way      *Pentachlorothioanisole
              Richmond B.C., Canada
              FEI# 3003196782

QUINTOZENE
Fungicidal treatment for control of a garden rot that affects many
plants during cool, wet months.
It has been widely used to protect ginseng crops.
EPA considers QUINTOZENE to be a possible human carcinogen
(cancer-causing agent).

PENTACHLOROBENZENE
Breakdown product of QUINTOZENE.
The substance may have effects on the liver and kidneys,
resulting in tissue lesions. Animal tests show that this
substance possibly causes toxic effects upon human
reproduction.

TETRACHLOROANILINE
Breakdown product of TECNAZENE.

BHC (BENZENE HEXACHLORIDE)
Probable human carcinogen.  Toxic.  Irritant.
Hazardous decomposition product.

PENTACHLOROANILINE
Metabolite of QUINTOZENE.

TECNAZENE
Fungicide.  Banned in the UK on 1/31/2000.

PENTACHLOROTHIOANISOLE
Metabolite of QUINTOZENE.
David Wright - 28 Sep 2003 06:05 GMT
>> >> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
>> >> so nothing will counteract.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY QUACKBUSTERS

Aw, Dave, am I cutting into your sales?  Am I causing you distress by
pointing out what a weaselly little slimebucket you are?  

I would like to ask "doesn't it bother you at all to blindly recommend
your ginseng to strangers with unknown problems?"  And if you had
either a brain or a conscience, I might ask that.  But you have
neither; you have only avarice.

Either that, or you have such enormous blind stupidity that you are
completely incapable of realizing that ginseng may not be good for
some people.

No matter what the explanation, it's not pretty.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Dave - 28 Sep 2003 13:45 GMT
> >> >> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> >> >> so nothing will counteract.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> No matter what the explanation, it's not pretty.

If I were in your shoes I'd be quite embarrassed. If you actually possessed
any intellect you would know that it doesn't matter what problem a person
has
the ginseng, by its nature, will provide help. I posted Canada's stand on
ginseng
to provide some insight into ginseng. I have posted my website to ginseng. I
have written about ginseng. Yet you choose ignorance. What does that say
about you?
Rich Shewmaker - 28 Sep 2003 16:40 GMT
--

> > >> >> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other
> meds,
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> have written about ginseng. Yet you choose ignorance. What does that say
> about you?

It says that he intelligently gets his information and insights from more
reliable sources than you.
--Rich
David Wright - 28 Sep 2003 23:31 GMT
>If I were in your shoes I'd be quite embarrassed.

You're in your own shoes, and *should* be embarrassed, given the vast
amounts of folderol you post.

>If you actually possessed any intellect you would know that it
>doesn't matter what problem a person has the ginseng, by its nature,
>will provide help.

If you actually possessed any integrity, you would have read the
references posted by others and discovered that

 1)  some people are allergic to ginseng
 2)  ginseng can interact badly with various prescription drugs.

>I posted Canada's stand on ginseng to provide some insight into
>ginseng. I have posted my website to ginseng. I have written about
>ginseng.

Response to all three:  BFD.  Neither your web site nor your writings
constitute anything other than your unsupported claims, many of which
are demonstrably wrong.  You can write anything you want, but that
won't make it true, no matter how many times you repeat it.

> Yet you choose ignorance. What does that say about you?

The ignorance, and it's willful ignorance at that, is your own.
You've had plenty of evidence presented to you, but you simply
(metaphorically) stick your fingers in your ears and hum loudly.
You're a fool and a coward and a commercial scumbag who'll let
any number of people suffer as long as you can sell your nostrum.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
D. C. Sessions - 27 Sep 2003 18:13 GMT
> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> so nothing will counteract.

Exercise.

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Anth - 27 Sep 2003 19:13 GMT
A good source of instant carbohydrates. (fruit juice is a good source)
Anth

> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> so nothing will counteract.
pascal parent - 27 Sep 2003 21:02 GMT
> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> so nothing will counteract.

I found marvelous products a few months ago. This is products from
PHARMANEX (group NU SKIN ENTERPRISE). They propose CORDYMAX of
OVERDRIVE.
It depends when you want to boost your energy. Is it during
- the day at work : choose cordymax
- of during sport : choose overdrive
The products are medically checked but I suggest you to speak with
your doctor first.

For more information, visit www.marieaurelie.mynuskin.com and don't
hésitate to ask information.
pascal parent - 27 Sep 2003 21:02 GMT
> What can I take to boost my energy level? I am not on any other meds,
> so nothing will counteract.

I found marvelous products a few months ago. This is products from
PHARMANEX (group NU SKIN ENTERPRISE). They propose CORDYMAX of
OVERDRIVE.
It depends when you want to boost your energy. Is it during
- the day at work : choose cordymax
- of during sport : choose overdrive
The products are medically checked but I suggest you to speak with
your doctor first.

For more information, visit www.marieaurelie.mynuskin.com and don't
hésitate to ask information.
Mark Thorson - 28 Sep 2003 02:05 GMT
> I found marvelous products a few months ago. This is products from
> PHARMANEX (group NU SKIN ENTERPRISE). They propose
> CORDYMAX of OVERDRIVE.

Do you know what's in CORDYMAX?
It's cordyceps.  What is cordyceps?
Here are links to some pictures:

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/beneficials/fungal/cordyceps.jpg
http://www.andoa.net/paginas/galeria/fotografica/imagenes/cordiceps_militaris1.jpg
http://www.maitake.com/Cordyceps.jpg
http://www.fungi.com/info/infopics/martial/cordyceps.jpg

Hint:  it's NOT vegetarian.
 
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