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UNM prevails against Knight/Scallen in lawsuit on patents

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Thomas Huxley - 17 Nov 2004 20:15 GMT
UNM prevails in lawsuit on patents

Federal Circuit Court concludes "...Knight's Response contains
multiple amorphous and illogical arguments that do not pertain to the
issue of royalties."

The Albuquerque Tribune reported on Nov. 11th, 2004 that "The most
expensive, most contentious and longest court battle involving the
University of New Mexico and its scientists is over. A federal appeals
court this week upheld a 2001 trial court decision giving UNM
ownership of a potential cancer cure discovered two decades ago in a
campus laboratory. 'We do consider this the end of the litigation,'
said Charles N. 'Nick' Estes Jr., university counsel emeritus. The
university spent approximately $541,000 on the case. Of that amount,
$85,000 was spent on appeals. 'Undoubtedly, it was the most expensive
case and the longest,' Estes said. 'It was in a class by itself.' The
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit on Tuesday affirmed
UNM's rights to the patents on the discoveries and ordered two former
UNM scientists to pay $63,887.33 in court costs for the four-year
legal battle. ..."

Source:
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news04/111104_news_payfees.shtml

There is more information on the resolution of this case in the
proceedings of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, at
http://fedcir.gov/opinions/04-1281.pdf . Here is a key finding by the
court:

   With respect to Knight's royalties claim in particular, the
district court granted summary judgment in favor of the University
dismissing the claim due to Knight's lack of evidence. Regents of the
Univ. of N.M. v. Knight, No. CIV 99-577 (D.N.M. Jan. 8, 2004) (Mem.
Op. & Order). In granting summary judgment, the district court noted
that the University argued that it did not owe Knight royalties until
the patents produced a net income, which the University asserted had
not yet occurred. Id. The district court held that Knight had not
raised a material issue of fact challenging these assertions, stating,
'Instead, Knight's Response contains multiple amorphous and illogical
arguments that do not pertain to the issue of royalties.' Id., slip
op. at 6. Knight has not directed this court to any evidence that a
material issue of fact existed precluding summary judgment or that the
district court incorrectly applied the law in reaching its decision.
... CONCLUSION For the above reasons, Scallen and Knight's arguments
presented on appeal are without merit. Thus, we affirm the district
court's dismissal of Scallen and Knight's counterclaims and award of
costs.

Regards, Th. Huxley, Esq.
Steph - 18 Nov 2004 02:09 GMT
> UNM prevails in lawsuit on patents
>
> Federal Circuit Court concludes "...Knight's Response contains
> multiple amorphous and illogical arguments that do not pertain to the
> issue of royalties."

I do hope Ch(K)ristopher Dale is reading this..............
Orac - 19 Nov 2004 03:18 GMT
> > UNM prevails in lawsuit on patents
> >
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>
> I do hope Ch(K)ristopher Dale is reading this..............

He will. As far as I've been able to tell, he usually browses this
newsgroup only on weekends. I'm betting he'll see the post on Saturday
or Sunday and explain everything to us. ;-)

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Steph - 19 Nov 2004 07:20 GMT
> He will. As far as I've been able to tell, he usually browses this
> newsgroup only on weekends. I'm betting he'll see the post on Saturday
> or Sunday and explain everything to us. ;-)

Hey Ch(K)riss..........

Like some diatomaceous earth with those sour grapes?
Dr Wilson Paging Jan Drew - 19 Nov 2004 21:56 GMT
>> He will. As far as I've been able to tell, he usually browses this
>> newsgroup only on weekends. I'm betting he'll see the post on Saturday
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>
>Like some diatomaceous earth with those sour grapes?

ROTFLMAO!  

And, for the conspiracy freaks out there, lets chalk up another victory of EOM
over independent researchers.  Another _OBVIOUS_ Cancer Cure is now being
supressed!  Ah, the humanity!
Kristofer D. Dale - 27 Nov 2004 06:05 GMT
In misc.health.alternative Thomas Huxley <th_huxley@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Regards, Th. Huxley, Esq.

Ah, here's a bit more to round out your presentation:

(BTW thanks for your "attendance", as in the following excerpt from
Merriam-Webster:

esquire- "serving as shield bearer and attendant to a knight...

rather ironic, eh?)

Now on to Knight and Scallen's Most Excellent Adventure:

http://www.dailylobo.com/news/2004/11/16/News/Unm-Granted.Rights.To.Researh-8062
69.shtml


and

http://www.dailylobo.com/news/2004/11/16/News/Unm-Granted.Rights.To.Researh-8062
69.shtml?page=2


as well as

http://badgerherald.com/news/2004/11/22/researchers_lose_bat.php

BTW, the lower and apellate courts steadfast refusal to acknowledge the
ample evidence of fraud and collusion is not adequately hidden behind
their vague, amorphous "decisions". The very fact that Knight and
Scallen maintained a pro se defense and appeal for 5+ years in the
federal court system speaks loudly to the legitimacy of their case. How
many people do you know have accomplished anything similar? If anyone
here recalls, UNM initially claimed more or less unlimited damages
against the inventors, stating a minimum of several hundred thousand
dollars in damages and punitive measures. After admitting to spending a
half million (probably a conservative estimate) to maintain this
pathetic kangaroo court proceeding, they were awarded a paltry $60K, so
the inventors, again pro se, gained not only a significant reduction in
the amount they must pay for the opportunity of defending themselves,
they also were able to force UNM to divulge crucial information that had
not been forthcoming until well into the end of the appeal process.
Conway's decision was so inept and ridiculous, there is now basically no
US patent coverage for the authentic vitaletheine compounds, since
Taub's machinations have so thoroughly ensnared and compromised both UNM
and the USPTO with his sick "shell game". Everyone involved knows full
well there will never be any royalty stream for UNM under such
circumstances, hence Knight and Scallen's ongoing fight to recover their
unlawfully abandoned property. As Dr. Scallen intimated in the Lobo
article, this is merely the end of one battle, a battle that will prove
to have cost UNM, the USPTO, and especially Floyd Taub and his cronies
dearly in the loss of investments, prestige, credibility, and public
trust. "C'est la guerre..."

http://www.nmia.com/~barefoot/TheTruthWillSetYouFree.htm

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p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

Steph - 27 Nov 2004 17:38 GMT
wrote some of his usual, overblown, sanctimonious, self-important
drivel...........

But what the people want to know, Ch(K)ris, is "Do you want some sour grapes
with that diatomaceous earth?"
You could share them in a consolation dinner with your boyfriend.
Anth - 29 Nov 2004 19:11 GMT
The blood serum of a healthy person contains a substance which causes cancer
cells to lyse. (Freund 1934 Vienna Austria)
Christini and Wolf independently were able to identify this as a
proteolytic-lipolytic enzyme.
Today is conjected that these enzymes are trypsin/chymotrypsin(ogen) and
their analoguues
Does Galen's work show an increase in these enzymes and activity in the
blood in the animals he tested his compounds on, or indeed an absence of
these enzymes in the blood in the animals with cancer?
Thanks
Anth

> In misc.health.alternative Thomas Huxley <th_huxley@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
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>
> http://www.nmia.com/~barefoot/TheTruthWillSetYouFree.htm
Kristofer D. Dale - 18 Dec 2004 22:22 GMT
In misc.health.alternative Anth <spam@spam.com> wrote:
> Does Galen's work show an increase in these enzymes and activity in the
> blood in the animals he tested his compounds on, or indeed an absence of
> these enzymes in the blood in the animals with cancer?

I will forward your post to Galen, "stay tuned"...

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p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

Anth - 19 Dec 2004 12:40 GMT
Thanks, there's a lot of threads in this group - where are you going to post
your results?
Anth

> In misc.health.alternative Anth <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>> Does Galen's work show an increase in these enzymes and activity in the
>> blood in the animals he tested his compounds on, or indeed an absence of
>> these enzymes in the blood in the animals with cancer?
>
> I will forward your post to Galen, "stay tuned"...
Kristofer D. Dale - 30 Dec 2004 02:29 GMT
In misc.health.alternative Anth <spam@spam.com> wrote:
> Thanks, there's a lot of threads in this group - where are you going to post
> your results?
> Anth

If I get an answer, I will post it under the heading
"trypsin/chymotrypsin(ogen)"...

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.            _o                   Kristofer Dale,
.         _ \<,_                  ragged individualist,
.   _____( )/ ( )_____            statistic at large...
.

p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

Anth - 30 Dec 2004 04:00 GMT
ok tnx!
Anth

> In misc.health.alternative Anth <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, there's a lot of threads in this group - where are you going to
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> If I get an answer, I will post it under the heading
> "trypsin/chymotrypsin(ogen)"...
Thomas Huxley - 29 Nov 2004 20:25 GMT
> In misc.health.alternative Thomas Huxley <th_huxley@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
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> federal court system speaks loudly to the legitimacy of their case. How
> many people do you know have accomplished anything similar? ...

It appears Knight and Scallen are mere pikers.  Their 5-year case is
insignificant next to the case of Professor Saburo Ienaga of Japan,
whose case challenging the Japanese Ministry of Education over changes
to his textbook _The New History Of Japan_ went on for 32 YEARS.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=46473

I guess I don't quite see the rationale for this argument.  Would
Scott Peterson have been "less guilty" if his trial had taken a year,
instead of 6 months?

Gee, isn't this digression "amorphous and illogical" too?  Like Knight
and Scallen, so goes Dale, eh?

With regards,
Th. Huxley, Esq.

(not "squire", Khris)
Kristofer D. Dale - 18 Dec 2004 22:33 GMT
In misc.health.alternative Thomas Huxley <th_huxley@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> It appears Knight and Scallen are mere pikers.  Their 5-year case is
> insignificant next to the case of Professor Saburo Ienaga of Japan,
> whose case challenging the Japanese Ministry of Education over changes
> to his textbook _The New History Of Japan_ went on for 32 YEARS.

Heh, you cite another individual who probably did not find having his
opinions trashed acceptable. Was he "pro se" as well? How many briefs
were filed in total? I think the Knight-Scallen case approached 500...

> I guess I don't quite see the rationale for this argument.  Would
> Scott Peterson have been "less guilty" if his trial had taken a year,
> instead of 6 months?

Of course you don't see, your just another "lie-yer"...

> Gee, isn't this digression "amorphous and illogical" too?  Like Knight
> and Scallen, so goes Dale, eh?

As "amorphous and illogical" as suing your own inventors for protesting
the theft of intellectal property already assigned to you, claiming that
in so doing, they have created a "cloud on the title" of that property?
This "Through-the-Looking-Glass" world that UNM, the courts, and the
USPTO live in is very curious indeed. Black is white, down is up, wrong
is right. Q.E.D...

> (not "squire", Khris)

Hmm, struck a nerve there, did I? Keep up the good work, "esquire"...

;^]

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  _____( )/ ( )_____            statistic at large...

p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

Steph - 19 Dec 2004 00:59 GMT
> This "Through-the-Looking-Glass" world that UNM, the courts, and the
> USPTO live in is very curious indeed. Black is white, down is up, wrong
> is right. Q.E.D...

Ah the basis for your world view, Ch(K)ris........
Everyone is wrong except you and your boyfriend

Like some sour grapes with that diatomaceous earth?
Kristofer Dale - 18 Mar 2005 05:26 GMT
> Like some sour grapes with that diatomaceous earth?

BTW, speaking of sour grapes, that little rat bastard piece of f.cking
sh.t, David E. Thomas, of New Mexicans for Science and Reason has
posted a link to this thread, so I'll take this opportunity to share
some of his chicken-sh.t exploits with his readers... ;^]

http://www.nmsr.org/controvy.htm

http://www.nmia.com/~barefoot/feedback.htm

http://www.nmia.com/~barefoot/dbcomm.htm

"D.T." ( nmsrdave@swcp.com or alcazarus@yahoo.com )is highly incensed
that I used his email to hoist him with his own petard, so to speak,
and has gone through great lengths and much compensatory posturing to
basically make himself out to be an even bigger fuckhead than he was
previously. Nevertheless, and in the spirit of humility and comraderie,
I posted this apology:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.bio.entomology.misc/browse_thread/thread
/36f794b96dfa4d67/7548025ddaf9249c?tvc=2&q=%22public+apology%22+%22kristofer+dal
e%22#7548025ddaf9249c


                                         Kristofer Dale,
                                         ragged individualist,
                                         statistic at large...
Steph - 21 Mar 2005 08:35 GMT
>> Like some sour grapes with that diatomaceous earth?
>
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>                                          ragged individualist,
>                                          statistic at large...

Nice to see you're popular with others Ch(K)ris
 
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