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Jan - 29 Oct 2004 07:11 GMT
http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1004-insight-Researchers+Announce+Major
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Researchers Announce Major New Findings on the Health Dangers of Transient
Oxygen Desaturations
Publish Date : 10/28/2004 3:03:00 PM   Source : Health News Onlypunjab.com

Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital have concluded that mild oxygen
desaturations of the blood, once thought to be of limited harm, contribute to
long-term impaired mental function, such as decreased cognitive ability, poor
academic performance, and behavioral disorders, such as Attention
Deficit/Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD) in children. Prolonged as well as transient
oxygen desaturations can occur as a result of many diseases and disabilities
and are especially common and critical in newborns and children. The paper,
"The Effect of Chronic or Intermittent Hypoxia on Cognition in Childhood: A
Review of the Literature," was published this month in the September 2004 issue
of Pediatrics.


A team of international researchers, led by Dr. Joel L. Bass of Massachusetts
General Hospital, performed a comprehensive review of literature related to
oxygen desaturation in children, spanning the years 1966 - 2000. 788 studies
over nearly forty years were reviewed for inclusion. The researchers
established stringent criteria of association for desaturation and decreased
quality of life and the reviewed papers were all judged according to these
criteria. 55 of these studies were judged to have used the most powerful
methods of statistical analysis and data collection. The literature strongly
supports the thesis that oxygen desaturations, either chronic or intermittent,
and childhood cognitive problems are highly correlative.

Of the direct evidence observed, 78.2% of the articles showed that these
desaturations have an adverse effect in children, leading to short and long
term cognitive impairment. In the group of studies examining the effects of
brief desaturations brought on by sleep-disordered breathing, for example, one
report showed a mean IQ drop of 12 points in children with snoring (a condition
closely associated with oxygen desaturation).

Reviewed studies by Blunden et al, O'Brien et al, Rosenthal, and Stradling et
al showed symptoms of decreased IQ, impaired attention and ADHD at saturations
between 85% and 94%, levels that would be considered not serious by most pulse
oximetry manufacturers and in some clinical institutions.

"Some of the adverse effects were noted in reports with oxygen saturations just
below the range of normal for age," stated the authors. "This information
should be taken into account when managing clinical conditions and designing
devices that may expose infants or children to any level of chronic or
intermittent hypoxia, with the goal of minimizing potential risk whenever
possible. Such risks should also be balanced with the potential risks of oxygen
therapy."

Mike Petterson, RRT, Senior Director of Clinical Research for Masimo
Corporation, stated, "This study comes at a critical time when some in our
industry have been advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
not necessary to track. We believe there is no such a thing as a 'trivial'
desaturation. Clinicians need to be made aware of every desaturation so that
they can best care for their patients. When we developed Masimo SET, our goal
was not to eliminate alarms; it was to eliminate false alarms and catch all
true alarms. That's what we were told by clinicians: 'give us the highest
fidelity and let us decide what to do for the patients.' Hence, the
introduction of Masimo SET in 1996 and, in 2000, Masimo SET with FastSat, which
provides the highest fidelity while rejecting false alarms. Today, Masimo SET
has been reported to be the only pulse oximetry technology that delivers over
95% sensitivity and specificity. We are committed to pulse oximetry that
accurately reports the depth and duration of oxygen desaturation in all
clinical situations, including during periods of patient movement and low
perfusion."

About Masimo

Masimo, founded in 1989, is the innovator and leader of read-through motion and
low perfusion pulse oximetry. Masimo develops, licenses, and markets advanced
medical signal processing technologies and products for the non-invasive
monitoring. Masimo Signal Extraction Technology, or Masimo SET, represents the
standard of care for pulse oximeters. Over 90 clinical studies support the
conclusion that Masimo SET is the most effective pulse oximeter in the world.
Masimo is headquartered in Irvine, California. Additional information about
Masimo and its products can be found at www.masimo.com.

Masimo is currently offering a $250,000 guarantee to hospitals seeking an
upgrade to next generation pulse oximetry. If Masimo does not outperform
Nellcor in an objective clinical trial, Masimo will pay that hospital $250,000
towards the purchase of Nellcor oximetry. Contact Masimo for more details....
Mark Probert - 29 Oct 2004 15:05 GMT
Abstract of actual study:

Pediatrics. 2004 Sep;114(3):805-16. Related Articles, Links

The effect of chronic or intermittent hypoxia on cognition in childhood: a
review of the evidence.

Bass JL, Corwin M, Gozal D, Moore C, Nishida H, Parker S, Schonwald A,
Wilker RE, Stehle S, Kinane TB.

Department of Pediatrics, Newton-Wellesley Hospital, MassGeneral Hospital
for Children, Harvard Medical School, Newton, Massachusetts 02462, USA.
jbass@partners.org

OBJECTIVE: A review of the evidence concerning the effect of chronic or
intermittent hypoxia on cognition in childhood was performed by using both a
systematic review of the literature and critical appraisal criteria of
causality. Because of the significant impact of behavioral disorders such as
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder on certain cognitive functions as
well as academic achievement, the review also included articles that
addressed behavioral outcomes. METHODS: Both direct and indirect evidence
were collected. A structured Medline search was conducted from the years
1966-2000 by using the OVID interface. Both English- and
non-English-language citations were included. Significant articles
identified by the reviewers up to 2003 were also included. To be included as
direct evidence, an article needed to be an original report in a
peer-reviewed journal with data on cognitive, behavioral, or academic
outcomes in children up to 14 years old, with clinical conditions likely to
be associated with exposure to chronic or intermittent hypoxia. Indirect
evidence from other reviews and publications in closely related fields,
including experimental studies in adults, was used to help formulate
conclusions. Two reviewers screened abstracts and titles. Each article
included as direct evidence received a structured evaluation by 2 reviewers.
Adjudication of differences was performed by a group of 2 reviewers and a
research consultant. After this review, tables of evidence were constructed
that were used as the basis for group discussion and consensus development.
Indirect evidence assigned by topic to specific reviewers was also presented
as part of this process. A formal procedure was used to rank the studies by
design strength. The critical appraisal criteria for causation described in
Evidence Based Pediatrics and Child Health (Moyer V, Elliott E, Davis R, et
al, eds. London, United Kingdom: BMJ Books; 2000:46-55) were used to develop
consensus on causality. RESULTS: A total of 788 literature citations were
screened. For the final analysis, 55 articles met the criteria for inclusion
in the direct evidence. Of these, 43 (78.2%) reported an adverse effect. Of
the 37 controlled studies, 31 (83.8%) reported an adverse effect. Adverse
effects were noted at every level of arterial oxygen saturation and for
exposure at every age level except for premature newborns. The studies were
classified into 5 clinical categories: congenital heart disease (CHD),
sleep-disordered breathing (SDB), asthma, chronic ventilatory impairment,
and respiratory instability in infants. Two of these categories, CHD and
SDB, which accounted for 42 (76.4%) of the included articles, fulfilled the
Evidence Based Pediatrics and Child Health criteria for causation. The
indirect evidence included 8 reviews, 1 meta-analysis, and 10 original
reports covering the fields of adult anoxia, animal research, SDB in adults,
natural and experimental high-altitude studies, perinatal hypoxic-ischemic
encephalopathy, anemia, and carbon-monoxide poisoning. The studies of
high-altitude and carbon-monoxide poisoning provided evidence for causality.
CONCLUSIONS: Adverse impacts of chronic or intermittent hypoxia on
development, behavior, and academic achievement have been reported in many
well-designed and controlled studies in children with CHD and SDB as well as
in a variety of experimental studies in adults. This should be taken into
account in any situation that may expose children to hypoxia. Because
adverse effects have been noted at even mild levels of oxygen desaturation,
future research should include precisely defined data on exposure to all
levels of desaturation.

PMID: 15342857 [PubMed - in process]
Mark - 29 Oct 2004 19:46 GMT
jdrew63929@aol.com (Jan) wrote
>  
> Researchers Announce Major New Findings on the Health Dangers of Transient
> Oxygen Desaturations

We've known for ages that transient hypoxia (e.g. obstructive sleep
apnea) can contribute to or cause symptoms that mimic ADHD.  OSA is
just one of the many items on the differential diagnosis that must be
considered when a child is being evaluated for "hyperactivity".

Mark, MD
Mark Probert - 29 Oct 2004 21:03 GMT
> > Researchers Announce Major New Findings on the Health Dangers of Transient
> > Oxygen Desaturations
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> just one of the many items on the differential diagnosis that must be
> considered when a child is being evaluated for "hyperactivity".

Please explain to Jan what a "diffrential diagnosis" is, or she may think
you are playing tricks on her. She never liked analogies which mentioned
cars.
Jan - 29 Oct 2004 21:05 GMT
>Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
>From: mlowry3@bellsouth.net  (Mark)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Mark, MD

"This study comes at a critical time when some in our industry have been
advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
not necessary to track
Eric Bohlman - 30 Oct 2004 18:44 GMT
>>Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
>>From: mlowry3@bellsouth.net  (Mark)
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> been advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
> not necessary to track

So in other words, it looks like new research is providing *solid*,
*credible*, *convincing* evidence that those "some in our industry" might
be wrong.  That's the biggest strength of science-based medicine:
everything you do is open to the possibility that there might be a better
way.  If the results of the study can be replicated, you can bet that
efforts will be made to reduce the occurrence of brief desaturations.

Oh, and Jan, there's something else that such replication would do.  It
would further expose the assertion that ADHD is the result of "lack of
discipline" as the *lie* that it is.
Jan - 31 Oct 2004 00:05 GMT
>Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
>From: Eric Bohlman ebohlman@omsdev.com
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>would further expose the assertion that ADHD is the result of "lack of
>discipline" as the *lie* that it is.

We are approaching the third generation of no discipline.

It's now called child abuse.

No respect for anything or anyone.

Instant gratification

The school is now in chaos. Riots are commonplace and senior management are
regularly assaulted.

*Yes, lots of kids have *not* ADHD;  rather, they have parents who
>failed to give their kids firm grounding in the right way to conduct
>onesself.*
Mark MD

Therefore those *guessing* the diagnosis, are of the above generation.

The causes keep changing.

Jan
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2004 17:28 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
> >From: Eric Bohlman ebohlman@omsdev.com
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> We are approaching the third generation of no discipline.
> It's now called child abuse.

""For some very vulnerable children, inclusion is a form of child abuse or
torture." " See below for cite.

> No respect for anything or anyone.
> Instant gratification

This is called "ranting" with no substance.

> The school is now in chaos. Riots are commonplace and senior management are
> regularly assaulted.

Bullshit. The NYC public schools, AFAIK the largest district in the US, does
not have this happening like the writer (and it is not Jan) claims. However,
Jan stole this from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3632137.stm.

Jan hates special education children.

> *Yes, lots of kids have *not* ADHD;  rather, they have parents who
> >failed to give their kids firm grounding in the right way to conduct
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The causes keep changing.

No, stupid, there is greater understanding through research. You really are
stupid.
George Lagergren - 31 Oct 2004 06:08 GMT
                                            201  10-30-04  22:15
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@omsdev.com>  posted:
Eb> So in other words, it looks like new research is providing *solid*,
Eb> *credible*, *convincing* evidence that those "some in our industry"
Eb> might  be wrong.  That's the biggest strength of science-based

   So, "some in our industry" might  be wrong.  How about the whole
   medical establishment whom desire to practice medicine from the
   pharm drug medical viewpoint FIRST and FOREMOST.  Rather than
   viewing health conditions FIRST OF ALL as resulting from a
   possible diet and/or nutrient deficiency.

Eb> might  be wrong.  That's the biggest strength of science-based
Eb> medicine:  everything you do is open to the possibility that there
Eb> might be a better  way.  If the results of the study can be replicated,

   That better way is known as practicing medicine from a diet/nutrition
   med approach FIRST.

Eb> Oh, and Jan, there's something else that such replication would do.
Eb> It  would further expose the assertion that ADHD is the result of "lack
Eb> of  discipline" as the *lie* that it is.

   Perhaps the health condition known as ADHD should be researched as
   resulting from a  diet and/or nutrient deficiency.

   I see nutritional products like "Be Calm" or "Focus Factor" advertised
   as being useful in helping the ADHD health condition.

... End  of  message                                   30 Oct 04  22:39
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Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2004 17:31 GMT
>     Perhaps the health condition known as ADHD should be researched as
>     resulting from a  diet and/or nutrient deficiency.

AD/HD has been studied extensively from that perspective for decades, even
before to Feingold Diet came into vogue. True AD/HD is not a diet or
nutrient deficiency.

>     I see nutritional products like "Be Calm" or "Focus Factor" advertised
>     as being useful in helping the ADHD health condition.

Useless for true AD/HD.

If you know that AD/HD is a diagnosis of exclusion, you would know that
dietary causes of the behaviors are ruled out before there is a diagnosis of
AD/HD.
Mark - 30 Oct 2004 23:20 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
> >From: mlowry3@bellsouth.net  (Mark)
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
> not necessary to track

B.S.  I've *never* been taught that these conditions are "trivial",
and I'm evidently part of mainstream Evil Organized Medicine.  To use
one guy's opinion that "some in (the) industry" poo-poo transient
oxygen desaturations, as an indication of how the industry as a whole
operates, is akin to saying that all chiropractors are as annoying as
Todd G. or that all former daycare operators are as unhinged as you.

Mark, MD
Jan - 31 Oct 2004 00:13 GMT
>Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
>From: mlowry3@bellsouth.net  (Mark)
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
>B.S.

> I've *never* been taught that these conditions are "trivial"

Mike Petterson, RRT, Senior Director of Clinical Research for Masimo
Corporation, stated, "This study comes at a critical time when some in our
industry have been advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
not necessary to track. We believe there is no such a thing as a 'trivial'
desaturation. Clinicians need to be made aware of every desaturation so that
they can best care for their patients. When we developed Masimo SET, our goal
was not to eliminate alarms; it was to eliminate false alarms and catch all
true alarms. That's what we were told by clinicians: 'give us the highest
fidelity and let us decide what to do for the patients.' Hence, the
introduction of Masimo SET in 1996 and, in 2000, Masimo SET with FastSat, which
provides the highest fidelity while rejecting false alarms. Today, Masimo SET
has been reported to be the only pulse oximetry technology that delivers over
95% sensitivity and specificity. We are committed to pulse oximetry that
accurately reports the depth and duration of oxygen desaturation in all
clinical situations, including during periods of patient movement and low
perfusion."
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2004 17:22 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Another Cause of ADHD??
> >From: mlowry3@bellsouth.net  (Mark)
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Mike Petterson, RRT,

RRT?

Registered Respiratory Therapist
http://www.nbrc.org/ExamsRRT.htm

Senior Director of Clinical Research for Masimo
> Corporation, stated, "This study comes at a critical time when some in our
> industry have been advocating that brief desaturations are 'trivial' and are
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> clinical situations, including during periods of patient movement and low
> perfusion."

Firstly, once again, Jan Drew relies on a sales pitch for information. How
stupid.

Secondly, any medical device company whose Senior Driector for Clinical
researech is a respiratory therapist is, IMNSHO, is questionable. Why not
have their research being done by biomedical engineers?
 
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