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The germ theory vs the soil theory

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Carole - 22 Sep 2004 12:51 GMT
Soil Theory vs Germ Theory - 150 years of suppression

From my own experience I have discovered that the soil theory is
valid.

Soil theory maintains that GERMS, FUNGII and PARASITES 
only thrive in a toxic body - and the root cause of all disease is 
CELLULAR TOXEMIA. 

"The germ theory proposes you get rid of the flies, while it makes
more sense to clean up the garbage attracting them."  
--Bill Nelson, developer of the QXCI machine

"If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that
germs seek their natural habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being
the cause of the diseased tissue."  -- Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
[the environment within] is everything."  
-  Louis Pasteur  (on his deathbed)

"Many forms of diagnosis are dependent upon what germ life exists, and
its existence in the body usually indicates a bad state of
deterioration. Disease germs are nature's undertakers"  
- -- Bernard Jenson, The Science and Practise of Iridology

"... depending on its inner state, germs arose within the body itself
that, in Rife’s opinion, were not the cause but the result of
disease states." 
--150 Years of Suppression, by Christopher Bird 1991

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm
Michele - 22 Sep 2004 23:02 GMT
> Soil Theory vs Germ Theory - 150 years of suppression
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Carole
> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm

For every (sometimes questionable) quote you posted above, there are
studies, scientists, & health care providers who've shown them to be
wrong.

Your own crappy health experiences suggest you need to look in a
different direction.
Carole - 24 Sep 2004 01:01 GMT
> For every (sometimes questionable) quote you posted above, there are
> studies, scientists, & health care providers who've shown them to be
> wrong.

Of course. There are "experts" and "reliable sources", studies and all
sorts of evidence to prove them I'm wrong. Ever heard of propaganda
and suppressed stories?

For example, there is the complete control of archaeological history
which is a story of coverups and suppression. There are all sorts of
things the government/ world controllers don't want us to know
anything about.

http://www.archaeologyanswers.com/
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/arcoverups.html

Every aspect of our lives is controlled with cooked up spurious text
books, history and coverups. So what's new? The trick is to think for
yourself and not take the establishment line as gospel. (Actually, I
don't even take the gospel as gospel.)

> Your own crappy health experiences suggest you need to look in a
> different direction.

My own "crappy" experience are empiracal evidence, that pseudo science
is correct. In other words, our whole world experience has been
subverted and replaced with teachings that don't make sense. This will
need to change, because man will not evolve spiritually until the real
laws that govern reality are acknowledged. This is called truth as
opposed to "establishment stand on an issue".

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
Nothing would be what it is, Because everything would be what it
isn’t.
And contrary-wise: what it is, it wouldn’t be. And what it
wouldn’t be, it would. You see?
-- Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland, 1865, Lewis Carroll,
English writer and mathematician,
Michele - 24 Sep 2004 20:50 GMT
> > For every (sometimes questionable) quote you posted above, there are
> > studies, scientists, & health care providers who've shown them to be
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> -- Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland, 1865, Lewis Carroll,
> English writer and mathematician,

The above proves that everything I've ever said about you is true.
You make it easy, Carole.
Peter Bowditch - 23 Sep 2004 00:56 GMT
>"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
>[the environment within] is everything."  
>-  Louis Pasteur  (on his deathbed)

It just won't go away, will it?

http://www.acahf.org.au/articles/pasteur.htm

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Anth - 23 Sep 2004 11:46 GMT
This isn't the original article to which the quote was attributed !
Anth

>>"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu
>>[the environment within] is everything."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.acahf.org.au/articles/pasteur.htm
Peter Bowditch - 23 Sep 2004 14:16 GMT
>>>"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu
>>>[the environment within] is everything."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> http://www.acahf.org.au/articles/pasteur.htm

>This isn't the original article to which the quote was attributed !

The quote is never attributed. This article debunks the original
"quote". It never happened.

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Anth - 01 Oct 2004 22:45 GMT
(According to you which fits your model)
Anth
David Wright - 23 Sep 2004 04:47 GMT
>"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu??
>[the environment within]?is everything."??
>-  Louis Pasteur  (on his deathbed)

You should drop by more often, Carole -- this quotation is as phoney
as a false leg.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Carole - 24 Sep 2004 01:16 GMT
> >"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
> >[the environment within] is everything."  
> >-  Louis Pasteur  (on his deathbed)
>
> You should drop by more often, Carole -- this quotation is as phoney
> as a false leg.

Yes, I do miss this place here and there. Most, if not all, the people
I deal with (those closest to me) tend to avoid dealing with issues
and respond emotionally if pushed on certain topics.

So the internet is the only place where a person can get information
and feedback on issues. I used to be called argumentative as a child
which used to annoy people. I get equally frustrated when people avoid
dealing with issues - but that's life.

I actually think the soil theory is correct. I believe that if people
didn't have any deficiencies, they wouldn't have health problems.
Certain things rob the body of minerals e.g., acid causing foods
(meat, sugar etc), chemicals and heavy metals which the body uses up
resources to eliminate.

I haven't got an overactive imagination and it is a fact that there is
a conspiracy behind every facet of our lives. You give me a topic and
I'll tell you the conspiracy - archaelogy, history, money, religion,
government, health etc.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm

Carole
http://

>   -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>      These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
>        "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
>            were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
David Wright - 24 Sep 2004 04:26 GMT
>I haven't got an overactive imagination and it is a fact that there is
>a conspiracy behind every facet of our lives. You give me a topic and
>I'll tell you the conspiracy - archaelogy, history, money, religion,
>government, health etc.

No, you'll tell us there *is* a conspiracy.  You won't prove it, and
any contrary evidence you'll ignore.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 24, 2004 - 24 Sep 2004 15:28 GMT
> You give me a topic and
> I'll tell you the conspiracy - archaelogy, history, money, religion,
> government, health etc.

What a sad paranoid world you live in.
Michele - 24 Sep 2004 20:52 GMT
> > You give me a topic and
> > I'll tell you the conspiracy - archaelogy, history, money, religion,
> > government, health etc.
>
> What a sad paranoid world you live in.

Suddenly, her binge drinking makes sense.......
DRCEEPHD - 27 Sep 2004 01:52 GMT
>Subject: Re: The germ theory vs the soil theory
>From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 24, 2004" M,a,r,kP,r,o,b,e,r,t
>09-24-04@lambercartel.com
>Date: 9/24/04 7:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id:

>> You give me a topic and
>> I'll tell you the conspiracy - archaelogy, history, money, religion,
>> government, health etc.
>
>What a sad paranoid world you live in.

Not quite.  We all live in it.

The Americans were given a Republic.  Now they have a democracy.  Not even
nearly the same thing.

The American money was once backed by gold and silver.  Today it is backed by a
promise from a private corporation, the Federal reserve bank.  You know, an I O
U of a type.

The American medical system is based upon a medical fruad.  That is that germs
cause disease.  The results are very profitable, yet none the less laughable.

DrC PhD
M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 27, 2004 - 27 Sep 2004 16:16 GMT
> >Subject: Re: The germ theory vs the soil theory
> >From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 24, 2004" M,a,r,kP,r,o,b,e,r,t
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>
> Not quite.  We all live in it.

Well, at least Carole has you for company. That makes me feel better.

> The Americans were given a Republic.  Now they have a democracy.  Not even
> nearly the same thing.

Actually, we do not have a democracy in the truest sense of the idea. At
best, we have a representative democracy.

> The American money was once backed by gold and silver.  Today it is backed by a
> promise from a private corporation, the Federal reserve bank.  You know, an I O
> U of a type.

So? This point is as old as some of Jan's citations.

> The American medical system is based upon a medical fruad.  That is that germs
> cause disease.  The results are very profitable, yet none the less laughable.

Non-sequitur. None of the above points are relevant to your bullshit claim.
Carole - 07 Oct 2004 16:28 GMT
> > The Americans were given a Republic.  Now they have a democracy.  Not even
> > nearly the same thing.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Non-sequitur. None of the above points are relevant to your bullshit claim.

Ever occur to you that you are one mind controlled dude? Conspiracies
do exist and if a person can't even acknowledge the possibility, they
have a problem.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
"Most people have built in 'slides' that short circuit the
mind’s critical examination process when it comes to certain
sensitive topics. 'Slides' is a CIA term for a conditioned type of
response which dead-ends a person’s thinking, and terminates
debate or examination of the topic. For example, the mention of the
word 'conspiracy' usually solicits a slide response with many people."
--Fritz Springmeier, author of The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines and
de-programmer http://www.newworldpeace.com/911menu3.html
M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t-October 7, 2004 - 07 Oct 2004 22:51 GMT
> "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 27, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t 09-27-04@lambercartel.com> wrote in message
news:<h9W5d.5542$NS1.2476644@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...

> > > The Americans were given a Republic.  Now they have a democracy.  Not even
> > > nearly the same thing.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> do exist and if a person can't even acknowledge the possibility, they
> have a problem.

Oh, you mean like the Conspiracies to Undermine Rational Thought? Are you
the leader?
Carole - 08 Oct 2004 22:18 GMT
"M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t-October 7, 2004" <M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t 10-7-04@lambercartel.com> wrote in message news:<HTi9d.20402

> > > Non-sequitur. None of the above points are relevant to your bullshit
>  claim.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Oh, you mean like the Conspiracies to Undermine Rational Thought? Are you
> the leader?

No thats your job.
I don't claim that any of my conspiracy ideas are conclusive, but they
sure can't be knocked out of the equation either. But people like you
just assume that the conspiracy ideas have absolutely no footing, but
the status quo, the established science is sacred, that "experts" are
all right and shouldn't be questioned because they have a string of
letters after their names.
Sorry dude, I'm here to say I disagree and that these "experts" are
illuminati dupes, put in place to uphold perverted science and are
happy to do it because they get paid big bucks and get lots of
prestige and that's all they care about.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/rationality.htm
M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t-October 8, 2004 - 08 Oct 2004 23:34 GMT
> "M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t-October 7, 2004" <M*a*r*k P*r*o*b*e*r*t 10-7-04@lambercartel.com> wrote in message news:<HTi9d.20402
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> No thats your job.

Sorry, Toots, but I was told by this guy under a rock, that you are the
chief.

> I don't claim that any of my conspiracy ideas are conclusive, but they
> sure can't be knocked out of the equation either.

Sure they can.

But people like you
> just assume that the conspiracy ideas have absolutely no footing, but
> the status quo, the established science is sacred, that "experts" are
> all right and shouldn't be questioned because they have a string of
> letters after their names.

Now, Carole, why would you say that? Oh, that's right, because you cannot
prove any of your whacko conspiracies.

> Sorry dude, I'm here to say I disagree and that these "experts" are
> illuminati dupes, put in place to uphold perverted science and are
> happy to do it because they get paid big bucks and get lots of
> prestige and that's all they care about.

Well, I am put here to say that you are a french fry short of a happy meal.

> Carole
> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/rationality.htm
 
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