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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / September 2004Don't Use Microwave Ovens!
Don't Use Microwave Ovens! From: Stan Cayer <stan@opal-essence.com> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/microwaveovens15sep04.shtml September 15, 2004 MICRO WAVING YOUR FOOD ISN'T SAFE If you want proof of this information, here's an experiment you can do at home. Plant seeds in two pots. Water one pot with water that has been micro waved, the other with regular tap. The seeds that received micro waved water won't sprout. If micro waved water can stop plants from growing, think of what micro waved food can do to your health! In 1989, Swiss biologist and food scientist Dr. Hans Hertel studied the effects of microwaved food. Eight people participated in the study. For eight weeks, they lived in a controlled environment and intermittently ate raw foods, conventionally cooked foods and microwaved foods. Blood samples were tested after each meal. They discovered that eating microwaved food over time, causes significant changes in blood chemistry: 1 a decrease in hemoglobin and cholesterol values, in the HDL (good cholesterol) versus LDL (bad cholesterol) ratio and in white blood cells, weakening the immune system, and an increase in leukocyte levels, which tends to indicate poisoning and cell damage. Overall, the study suggested that eating microwaved foods can cause degenerative diseases and/or cancer.2 "The measurable effects on man through the ingestion of microwaved food, unlike untreated food, are blood alterations, that can also be found at the beginning of a pathological condition, also indicative of a beginning can cerousprocess,wroteDr. Bernard Blanc, who assisted in the study.3 Microwave ovens "cook" food by forcing the atoms, molecules and cells within the food to reverse polarity billions of times per second, causing friction-the more the friction, the more the heat. This oscillation tears and deforms the molecular structure of food. New compounds are formed, called radiolytic compounds, which are not found in nature. Interestingly, microwaves are actually used in gene-altering technology to deliberately break cells and neutralize their "life-force" so they can be manipulated. Microwaves destroy the life-force that gives food its vitality and nourishment. When this life-force dissipates, microorganisms start breaking food down and it begins to rot. The effects of microwaving breast milk have also been researched. John Kerner, M.D. and Richard Quin, M.D. from Stanford University said that "Microwaving human milk, even at a low setting, can destroy some of its important disease-fighting capabilities."4 After more research, Kerner wrote in the April 1992 issue of Pediatrics that "Microwaving itself may in fact cause some injury to the milk above and beyond the heating." And a radio announcement at the University of Minnesota said that "Microwaves are not recommended for heating a baby's bottle. Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas there may be a loss of some vitamins. In expressed milk, some protective properties may be destroyed."5 Another study in Vienna warned that microwaving breast milk "can lead to structural, functional and immunological changes," and that microwaves transform the amino acid L-proline into D-proline, a proven toxin to the nervous system, liver and kidneys.6 In Russia, microwave ovens were banned in 1976 because of their negative health consequences and many studies were conducted on their use. Here are some of their findings on microwaving food: 1. Microwaved foods lose 60 ~ 90% of the vital-energy field and microwaving accelerates the structural disintegration of foods. 2. Microwaving creates cancer-causing agents within milk and cereals. 3. Microwaving alters elemental food-substances, causing digestive disorders. 4. Microwaving alters food chemistry which can lead to malfunctions in the lymphatic system and degeneration of the body's ability to protect itself against cancerous growths. 5. Microwaved foods lead to a higher percentage of cancerous cells in the bloodstream. 6. Microwaving altered the breakdown of elemental substances when raw, cooked, or frozen vegetables were exposed for even a very short time and free radicals were formed. 7. Microwaved foods caused stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues, and a gradual breakdown of the digestive and excretive systems in a statistically high percentage of people. 8. Microwaved foods lowered the body's ability of the body to utilize B-complex vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotropics. 9. The microwave field next to a microwave oven caused a slew of health problems as well. Aside form these studies, many people find that microwaving their food doesn't help them feel good. Stephanie Relfe, Kinesiologist, found herself feeling "grey and rather low" one day and discovered that she had inadvertently eaten microwaved food at a restaurant.8 In her practice, she found that all of her patients gave body signals of having allergic reactions to microwaved foods. Another Kinesiologist, David Bridgeman, said, "Of all the people I test for allergies, 99.9% so far show severe sensitivity to any microwaved food." Also, homeopathy in the vicinity of a microwave looses its healing potential... In conclusion then, the safest way to heat your food is to use your stovetop and throw away your microwave! From the desk of: Light & Luv, Stan Cayer, Natural-Person, Canadian Bill of Rights1960, c, 44, & Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948. > MICRO WAVING YOUR FOOD ISN'T SAFE When microwave ovens were first introduced, there was a wave of concern among consumers and in science. It took a decade of funded and independent research, and two decades of user experience, to prove conclusively that if a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. USE CAUTION TO AVOID THESE HAZARDS Otherwise, the microwave oven is quite safe. "2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat." True only if on a low carb diet. > a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is > danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. > > 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. > 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. They all leak as you can prove with a meter http://www.whale.to/w/microwave1.htm > > a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is > > danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. > > > > 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. > > 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. > They all leak as you can prove with a meter I've tried everything from 90-110cm -- no leaks. Henry > > They all leak as you can prove with a meter > > I've tried everything from 90-110cm -- no leaks. Great, keep using them, we need to thin out the species Get yourself next to a tower or panel array and we can get your sort of genes out of the gene pool Medium sized microwave ovens are rated around 700W while the focussed power of a typical base-station main beam is likely to be at least 3,000W EIRP. from each antenna. (This EIRP measurement simply shows what an un-focussed antenna radiating in all directions would have to put out for the same beam strength). For one antenna the licence permits a maximum total power in 1800 MHz band of 24,000W EIRP. The lower typical power presently radiated is mainly because of technical limitations. >> a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is >> danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >http://www.whale.to/w/microwave1.htm This web page just has a bunch of links to other articles. The articles include howlers like this one: The microwaves from the Sun are based on principles of pulsed direct current. These rays create no frictional heat in organic substance." That, by the way, is from Hertel, one of the "scientists" who did the test of the 8 volunteers that supposedly showed the awfulness of cooking with microwaves. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT) "David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message news:1sN2d.19969 > >http://www.whale.to/w/microwave1.htm > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The microwaves from the Sun are based on principles of pulsed direct > current. These rays create no frictional heat in organic substance." I do not understand the motivation of people who construct and then publicly present such concepts, which have no basis in either observation/analysis of physical phenomena or objective measurement of events. It's all mental conjuring, from nothing, an exercise in imagination. They make no profit from it, gain nothing but ridicule, embarrassment. Why do they do it? What possible satisfaction is there? Jan is an example of such idiocy. Much of what she espouses can be laid off on others who she thinks have credentials and therefore authority, so her biggest crime in such cases is being a terrible parrot. But a pretty high percentage of her output is pure construction on her part, with nowhere to plant her feet. As she's about to touch the SEND button, she must know - somewhere deep inside - that she's about to get flayed alive. What motivates her to expose herself to such humiliation? Henry > I do not understand the motivation of people who construct and then publicly > present such concepts, which have no basis in either observation/analysis of > physical phenomena or objective measurement of events. It's all mental > conjuring, from nothing, an exercise in imagination. They make no profit > from it, gain nothing but ridicule, embarrassment. Why do they do it? What > possible satisfaction is there? Some of these people have in the past managed to get a lot of money from eastern European governments for their research. I guess it's possible to fool some of the people some of the time - and that's just enough to make a living. > "David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:1sN2d.19969 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > imagination. They make no profit from it, gain nothing but ridicule, > embarrassment. Not necessarily. Some people with no or minimal scientific knowledge easily 'gulp' that kind of crap. > Why do they do it? What > possible satisfaction is there? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Henry >>> a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is >>> danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The microwaves from the Sun are based on principles of pulsed direct > current. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'Pulsed DC' is used *IN THE OVEN*: high voltage AC (stepped up from mains with a transformer) is rectified with a high voltage diode and filtered with a capacitor. There is no pulsed DC *IN THE SUN*!!!!!! What a dumbass!! > These rays create no frictional heat in organic substance." > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants > were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT) > > a microwave oven is working properly (seals, interlocks, etc.) there is > > danger from such a time-saving appliance in only two instances. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.whale.to/w/microwave1.htm There are all kinds of radiation we are exposed to from our everyday use of machins in office. > There are all kinds of radiation we are exposed to from our everyday > use of machins in office. Not just machines... The earth has itself has a magnetic field of it's own. It's powerful enough to physically move objects on the earths surface. Lightening is a huge pulse of electricity that generates radio waves that travel for hundreds even thousands of miles. Nutrieons are fundamental particles that make up the universe. The sun produces huge quantities of Neutrinos and blasts them at the earth where they go right through the whole planet and anything else in their path. All mostly harmless. >> MICRO WAVING YOUR FOOD ISN'T SAFE > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. > 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. Hahahaha. 3. Radiation could leak if the door doesn't close completely (this can happen only if the door is damaged or blocked by a cloth or something). 4. Eggs, liver (nasty!!!!) or hot dogs can 'explode' from steam pressure. Usually this happens inside the oven (while the food is still being heated), but I heard that sometimes eggs can explode a few seconds after the oven has been turned off. If the door has been open then the explosion sprays hot 'egg mass' all over - it's real bad if it gets in your eyes. > USE CAUTION TO AVOID THESE HAZARDS > Otherwise, the microwave oven is quite safe. Microwave radiation isn't ionizing, which means it doesn't cause the kind of damage to cells that would cause cancer. It's potentially dangerous because it can cook something from the inside out, as Air Force experiments on dogs showed quite well back in the 60's (also why you should never try and dry out your dog or cat in a microwave, just like the urban legend). But that's why they have safety interlocks on the doors. You know, you could get into the same kind of trouble sticking your head into a convection oven at 450 degrees... I bet if you stuck a glass of water outside a microwave with a thermal probe in it, you wouldn't detect the water going up in temperature even a tenth of a degree. > I bet if you stuck a glass of water outside a microwave with a thermal > probe in it, you wouldn't detect the water going up in temperature even a > tenth of a degree. Unless you compensate for evaporation, it would go DOWN. 2.45GHz leakage from any design-to-code, non-malfunctioning microwave oven approaches zero. And square:cube shows that the water had best be only centimeters from a leak in order to be affected. >> MICRO WAVING YOUR FOOD ISN'T SAFE > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. > 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. Hahahaha. 3. Radiation could leak if the door doesn't close completely (this can happen only if the door is damaged or blocked by a cloth or something). 4. Eggs, liver (nasty!!!!) or hot dogs can 'explode' from steam pressure. Usually this happens inside the oven (while the food is still being heated), but I heard that sometimes eggs can explode a few seconds after the oven has been turned off. If the door has been open then the explosion sprays hot 'egg mass' all over - it's real bad if it gets in your eyes. > USE CAUTION TO AVOID THESE HAZARDS > Otherwise, the microwave oven is quite safe. Yes. > 3. Radiation could leak if the door doesn't close completely (this can > happen only if the door is damaged or blocked by a cloth or something). Unlikely even then. Most have a clever mechanical switch to prevent power being applied unless the door is closed AND latched. If you try and shut the door with anything thicker than say paper in the way it;s not possible to turn it on. I've just taken my microwave apart and had a good look at the door switch. Its very clever. The lock is designed so that when you push the button to open the door it turns off the power well before the mechanical door lock even starts to move. There is then a second switch that opens and only then does the door open move. It's simply not possible for the microwave to be switch on with the door open or even with the door firmly closed and the latch itself open. >> 3. Radiation could leak if the door doesn't close completely (this >> can happen only if the door is damaged or blocked by a cloth or [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > not possible for the microwave to be switch on with the door open or > even with the door firmly closed and the latch itself open. It's good that newer models have better safety mechanisms. > It's good that newer models have better safety mechanisms. Actually it's 12 years old - I only took it apart because it finally expired. >> MICRO WAVING YOUR FOOD ISN'T SAFE > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. If fingers get in the way of the closing door. > 2. If it is swallowed and lodges in the throat. 5. If it falls on your toe. (hahahaha) > USE CAUTION TO AVOID THESE HAZARDS > Otherwise, the microwave oven is quite safe. "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote in > If you want proof of this information, here's an experiment you can do at > home. Plant seeds in two pots. Water one pot with water that has been [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > won't sprout. If micro waved water can stop plants from growing, think of > what micro waved food can do to your health! Bullshit. There's a million dollar reward available to anyone who can distinguish pure water that's "microwaved" from that which isn't. Idiot. le moo > "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote in > > If you want proof of this information, here's an experiment you can do at [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Bullshit. There's a million dollar reward available to anyone who can > distinguish pure water that's "microwaved" from that which isn't. Happy Dog, get out your checkbook! I just did a test and am ready to collect. I tried it 47 times, and was perfectly consistent. I think I could repeat this over and over, and get the same results forever. I've had sensitivity training (evident from my posts here), and to me, microwaved water seems warmer than non-microwaved water. I therefore extended the trial and can say with confidence that John was right. If you microwave the water till bubbles form, then pour it over the seeds, they WILL NOT SPROUT. Try it yourself, you'll see. Until now, o grinning canine, you had my respect. Henry "HLE" <OOH!RAH!@USMC.net> >> Bullshit. There's a million dollar reward available to anyone who can >> distinguish pure water that's "microwaved" from that which isn't. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > right. If you microwave the water till bubbles form, then pour it over the > seeds, they WILL NOT SPROUT. Try it yourself, you'll see. I doubt that many people missed my point. I doubt you did either. But, if you insist, try this again using water boiled in a microwave and compare with boiled in any container that doesn't leach anything into the water. Happy now? > Until now, o grinning canine, you had my respect. Like I care. moo > Happy Dog, get out your checkbook! > I just did a test and am ready to collect. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > right. If you microwave the water till bubbles form, then pour it over the > seeds, they WILL NOT SPROUT. Try it yourself, you'll see. LOL... Really loud. >> "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote in >> > If you want proof of this information, here's an experiment you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > sensitivity training (evident from my posts here), and to me, > microwaved water seems warmer than non-microwaved water. You can easily fake the effect with a gas oven or a traditional electric oven :) > I therefore extended the trial and can say with confidence that John > was right. If you microwave the water till bubbles form, then pour it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Henry >> I tried it 47 times, and was perfectly consistent. I think I could >> repeat this over and over, and get the same results forever. I've had [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You can easily fake the effect with a gas oven or a traditional electric >oven :) Or even a stove or lowly hotplate. Kurt (So, does that mean we are up to $5 million between us?) Ullman -- "Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on." ---PJ O'Rourke > Don't Use Microwave Ovens! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > waved, the other with regular tap. The seeds that received micro waved water > won't sprout. COMMENT: Hey, John, you brainless ignorant twit! Too bad you didn't actually try this experiment before you posted Cayer's claim! If it's true you win the Nobel Prize. But of course it's nonsense. > 1. Microwaved foods lose 60 ~ 90% of the vital-energy field and > microwaving accelerates the structural disintegration of foods. COMMENT: "Vital energy fields." Whenever you hear this term, grab your wallet and run! Destroys auras! Destroys homeopathic power! Destroys qi and prana and vital essence and subtracts Delta sky-miles! > 2. Microwaving creates cancer-causing agents within milk and cereals. COMMENT: So does any type of heating. But microwaving, since it produces fewer extreme temperatures than most other kinds of cooking, produces less. The only type of cooking as safe as microwaving for production of carcinogens, is boiling. And even boiling causes more loss of vitamins, because 1) some vitamins leach into boiling water, and 2) people who boil tend to boil longer than they need to. > 3. Microwaving alters elemental food-substances, causing digestive > disorders. COMMENT: See above. > 4. Microwaving alters food chemistry which can lead to malfunctions in the > lymphatic system and degeneration of the body's ability to protect itself > against cancerous growths. COMMENT: See above. Microwaving has never been proven to do anything to food that every other alternative type of cooking doesn't do WORSE. The only way you can avoid this is eat all your food raw. That means you have to give up meat, for safety, and grains because without cooking they don't digest in humans. Okay if you want to do this, but it also means you don't get maximal nutrition out of vegetables, either, unless you're going to blenderize them to puree.... > 5. Microwaved foods lead to a higher percentage of cancerous cells in the > bloodstream. COMMENT: Baloney. > 6. Microwaving altered the breakdown of elemental substances when raw, > cooked, or frozen vegetables were exposed for even a very short time and > free radicals were formed. COMMENT: Free radicals are formed with any kind of heating. More are formed with all other forms of cooking than are formed from microwave cooking. > 7. Microwaved foods caused stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, a > general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues, and a gradual breakdown > of the digestive and excretive systems in a statistically high percentage of > people. COMMENT: Baloney. Reference? > 8. Microwaved foods lowered the body's ability of the body to utilize > B-complex vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, essential minerals and > lipotropics. COMMENT: Nonsense. > 9. The microwave field next to a microwave oven caused a slew of health > problems as well. COMMENT: Maybe if you have a pacemaker. > Aside form these studies, many people find that microwaving their food > doesn't help them feel good. Stephanie Relfe, Kinesiologist, found herself [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Of all the people I test for allergies, 99.9% so far show severe > sensitivity to any microwaved food." COMMENT: If you know what a "kinesiologist" does and is, there's really nothing else to say. > Also, homeopathy in the vicinity of a microwave looses its healing > potential... COMMENT: There's nothing to lose. > In conclusion then, the safest way to heat your food is to use your > stovetop and throw away your microwave! COMMENT: In which case you'll be heating your food more, exposing its surfaces to higher temperatures, and at the very least (if you use your stove only for boiling) probably exposing it to temperatures for longer than required. > From the desk of: Light & Luv, > Stan Cayer, COMMENT: Resident alternative doofus. Not all alternative medicine is bad-- for example naturopaths and even herbalists have found some true and useful things to teach standard medicine. But articles like the above really give alternative medicine a bad name. SBH >> Don't Use Microwave Ovens! >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >try this experiment before you posted Cayer's claim! If it's true you >win the Nobel Prize. But of course it's nonsense. Hey, if you don't let the microwaved water cool down first, it may well be true!!!!! I've started thousands of plants in soil mixtures that I've wetted and microwaved to kill seedling pathogens, and they've germinated and grown just as well as those planted in soil mixes disinfected by pouring boiling water from a tea kettle over them. I have the sense to wait until it cools down before I sow, however. Actual experiments done at home, wow! Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > The only way you can avoid this is eat all your food raw. That > means you have to give up meat, for safety, and grains because > without cooking they don't digest in humans. Are you sure of the latter? I often eat raw oats. They seem just as filling as cooked.  SignatureKeith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/ Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me. > Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > The only way you can avoid this is eat all your food raw. That [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Are you sure of the latter? I often eat raw oats. They seem just as > filling as cooked. Yeah, but it is the undigested part that you notice in a day or two when it passes from your digestive system. http://www.laleva.cc/environment/microwave.html > Don't Use Microwave Ovens! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > won't sprout. If micro waved water can stop plants from growing, think of > what micro waved food can do to your health! That is why there is shielding around the microwave oven. Try the same experiment, but putting one seed near the oven and one seed away from the oven. If if both seeds grow. Unless you intend to crawl in one while it is on. Jeff > > Don't Use Microwave Ovens! > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > away from the oven. If if both seeds grow. Unless you intend to crawl in one > while it is on. I should have said: Try the same experiment, but putting one seed near the oven and one seed away from the oven. See if both seeds grow. You should do John's experiment only if intend to crawl in a microwave oven while it is on. Putting a seed in a microwave oven is a bit like putting a seed in boiling water for a 1/2 hour and see if still grows. And if it doesn't, then you know you shouldn't go into a pot of boiling water. Jeff > Jeff youve really made me think about micros! |
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