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A decrease in iron status in young healthy women after long-term daily
consumption of the recommended intake of fibre-rich wheat bread.
Bach Kristensen M, Tetens I, Alstrup Jorgensen AB, Dal Thomsen A, Milman N,
Hels O, Sandstrom Dagger B, Hansen M.
The Dept. of Human Nutrition, The Royal Veterinary & Agricultural University,
Rolighedsvej 30, 1958, Frederiksberg C, Denmark.
BACKGROUND. Fibrerich bread and cereals are included in the recommendations of
a healthy diet. OBJECTIVE. To measure the effects of long-term consumption of
the recommended intake of fibre-rich wheat bread on the iron status of young
healthy women with adequate iron stores. DESIGN. Four-months intervention study
including healthy female subjects assigned into two groups provided daily with
300 g of fibre-rich wheat bread, prepared with or without phytase as a
supplement to their habitual diet. SUBJECTS. Forty-one women aged 24.8 +/- 3.8
years (mean +/- SD) and an average BMI of 22.0 +/- 2.9 kg/m2 participated.
Baseline values for serum ferritin were 45 micro g/L, 22-83 (geometric mean,
range) and for haemoglobin 132 g/L, 119-148 (arithmetic mean, range),
respectively. RESULTS. Distribution of energy intake from protein, fat and
carbohydrate, and daily intake of dietary fibre and iron were similar in the
two groups and within the recommended levels. There was no effect of the
phytase added to the wheat bread on the iron status of the subjects, but an
effect of the intervention period. Serum ferritin and haemoglobin levels were
significantly reduced by 12 +/- 1.1 micro g/L (27%) ( P < 0.001) and 2 +/- 0.8
g/l (1.5%) (mean +/- SE) ( P < 0.05) respectively, after four months of
intervention. CONCLUSIONS. The present long-term study indicates that
consumption of the recommended daily intake of fibre-rich wheat bread results
in an impairment of iron status in women with initially sufficient iron stores.
Reduction of the phytic acid concentration in the bread was not sufficient to
maintain iron status.
PMID: 15349738 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
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peterb - 08 Sep 2004 20:08 GMT
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Hi Tom, although I disagree with you about vegetarianism, you have the
intelligence to post study data and references and a sincere passion
to express your views about health. I see very few people taking time
to that here. I saw your comment earlier about those seeking to
distract from useful discussion about alternative medicine. Well,
despite my disagreement with some of your conclusions, I also believe
that only nature provides nurture.
About the study result you posted here. Since grains are not a paleo
food, humans could not have evolved to eat them, thus I believe grains
should be kept to a minimum (or eliminated) in the diet. I personally
enjoy sprouted wheat bread, maybe 5 slices a week. I suspect it's your
view that it's GOOD to lower iron stores, in order to avoid problems
with too *much* iron? I still believe you've gotten off on the wrong
foot with that idea. If you're right about iron, wouldn't it mean
there is something "wrong" with our natural metabolic state? Grains
have only existed for the past 10,000 years or so, and our DNA matches
the DNA of ancestors from *millions* of years ago. Possibly you're a
creationist and don't believe we've been here that long?
Be well.
PB
doe - 09 Sep 2004 09:56 GMT
>Subject: Re: Lowering iron stores by diet
>From: caspian9@aaahawk.com (peterb)
>Date: 9/8/2004 1:08 PM Mountain Daylight Time
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>If you're right about iron, wouldn't it mean
>there is something "wrong" with our natural metabolic state?
I'm not sure what you mean .. here.
Iron builds to higher and higher levels ..
> Grains
>have only existed for the past 10,000 years or so, and our DNA matches
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>PB
I'm not really sure what you mean about grains ..
A good analogy might be .. broccoli ..
IT .. is a manmade substance and therefore would be considered IN the same
'vein' as .. grains .. in that it is not a .. natural .. 'food' .. BUT .. since
we are agriculture oriented we have been able to adapt to create a food
'source' and as .. herbivores .. grains .. fit .. right .. in ..?
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peterb - 09 Sep 2004 16:40 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Lowering iron stores by diet
> >From: caspian9@aaahawk.com (peterb)
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> I'm not sure what you mean .. here.
> Iron builds to higher and higher levels ..
I just meant, if iron is bad, why do we find it in so many foods, not
just meat?
> > Grains
> >have only existed for the past 10,000 years or so, and our DNA matches
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> we are agriculture oriented we have been able to adapt to create a food
> 'source' and as .. herbivores .. grains .. fit .. right .. in ..?
Ok, but don't forget about celiac disease, which is very common and
only affects people who eat wheat products.
pb
doe - 09 Sep 2004 16:55 GMT
>Subject: Re: Lowering iron stores by diet
>From: caspian9@aaahawk.com (peterb)
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>I just meant, if iron is bad, why do we find it in so many foods, not
>just meat?
Iron is .. essential .. it is the very basis of life ..
Iron in .. excess .. is bad ..
Heme iron .. that iron found ONLY in meat .. has been SHOWN to be NOT ..
controlled by the body and builds to higher and higher levels ..
Heme iron also binds to all other iron ingested at the same time and causes it
TOO to be absorbed at a high rate .. so when you have a burger on an iron
enrichedfloured bun .. you now absorb 16% of the iron from the bun which you
would 'normally' only absorb up to 8% ..
>> > Grains
>> >have only existed for the past 10,000 years or so, and our DNA matches
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>pb
Celiac is called the .. 'Irish disease' .. and coincidentally .. iron overload
.. genetic iron overload .. strikes .. Celts ..
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doe - 14 Sep 2004 10:03 GMT
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American Chemical Society
Date:
12/13/2002
Too Much Grape Juice Could Cause Iron Deficiency
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/12/021213062321.htm
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Anth - 30 Sep 2004 20:50 GMT
Would a quicker way be just giving blood ?
Anth
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