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Are Populations Being Primed For Nano-Microchips Inside Vaccines?

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john - 31 Oct 2009 19:19 GMT
Are Populations Being Primed For Nano-Microchips Inside Vaccines?

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/100509_injectable_nano_microchips.shtml

2009

It's almost surreal, like something out of a sci-fi flick, but
nano-microchips invisible to the naked eye are a reality that are already
being hosted in wide-range of applications. The question is, how long will
it take governments and big pharma to immerse nano-microchips inside of
vaccines to tag and surveil global populations?

Nanotechnology deals with structures smaller than one micrometer (less than
1/30th the width of a human hair), and involves developing materials or
devices within that size. To put the size of a nanometer in perspective, it
is 100,000 times smaller than the width of a human hair.

More than ten years ago, simple low-cost techniques improved the design and
manufacture of nano-microchips. That unlocked a multitude of methodologies
for their manufacture in a wide-range of applications including optical,
biological, and electronic devices.

The joint use of nanoelectronics, photolithography, and new biomaterials,
have enabled the required manufacturing technology towards nanorobots for
common medical applications, such as surgical instrumentation, diagnosis and
drug delivery.

Japan's Hitachi says it has developed the world's smallest and thinnest
microchip, that can be embedded in paper to track down parcels or prove the
authenticity of a document. The integrated circuit (IC) chip is as minute as
a speck of dust.

Nanoelectrodes implanted in the brain are increasingly being used to manage
neurological disorders. Mohammad Reza Abidian, a post-doctoral researcher at
the U-M Department of Biomedical Engineering said that polymers in nanotubes
"are biocompatible and have both electronic and ionic conductivity." He
further stated "therefore, these materials are good candidates for
biomedical applications such as neural interfaces, biosensors and drug
delivery systems."

Depending on the objectives of such studies, research could theoretically
pave the way for smart recording electrodes that can deliver drugs to
positively or negatively affect the immune response.

Through nanotechnology, researchers have also been able to create artificial
pores able to transmit nanoscale materials through membranes.

A UC biomedical engineering study appearing in the journal Nature
Nanotechnology, Sept. 27, 2009, successfully inserted the modified core of a
nanomotor, a microscopic biological machine, into a lipid membrane. The
resulting channel enabled them to move both single- and double-stranded DNA
through the membrane.

Professor Peixuan Guo who led the study said past work with biological
channels has been focused on channels large enough to move only
single-stranded genetic material.

"Since the genomic DNA of human, animals, plants, fungus and bacteria are
double stranded, the development of single pore system that can sequence
double-stranded DNA is very important," he says.

Such engineered channels could have applications in nano-sensing, DNA
sequencing, drug loading, including innovative techniques to implement DNA
packaging mechanisms of viral nanomotors and vaccine delivery.

"The idea that a DNA molecule travels through the nanopore, advancing
nucleotide by nucleotide, could lead to the development of a single pore DNA
sequencing apparatus, an area of strong national interest," Guo said.

Scientists working at Queen Mary, University of London, have developed
micrometer-sized capsules to safely deliver drugs inside living cells. These
"micro shuttles" could hypothetically be loaded with a specific microchip
controlling the dose of medication to be opened remotely, releasing their
contents. Besides monitoring the dosage, the same microchip could be used to
surveil the patient in conjunction with various tracking systems.

Scientists in the United Kingdom have recently reported advances towards
overcoming key challenges in nanotechnology. They demonstrated how
nanoparticles could move quickly in a desired direction without help from
outside forces. Their achievement has broad implications, the scientists
say, raising the possibility of coaxing cells to move and grow in specific
directions.

Doug Dorst, a microbiologist and vaccine critic in South Wales, says these
advances have an immense appeal to vaccine makers. "Biotech companies and
their researchers have quickly moved most funding initiatives towards
nanotechnology to increase the potency of their vaccines," he said. If
microorganisms inside of vaccines can be coaxed into targeting or invading
specific cells, they could achieve their goal at an accelerated rate over
conventional vaccines. "Depending on which side of the vaccine debate you're
on, whether pro or con, nanobots inside vaccine preparations could advance
their effectiveness exponentially by either dramatically improving or
destroying immunity depending on their design," he added.

Dorst claims that present day nanobot technology could just as easily be
used to advance biological weapons as they can to advance human health. "For
every fear that biotech propaganda proliferates about deadly diseases and
how vaccines prevent them, it is one more lie to incrementally convince the
masses that vaccines are effective."

The worry for Dorst is that one day vaccines "will do what they've always
been intended for...control of the global populace."

Nanoemulsion platforms are already capable of developing vaccines from very
diverse materials. Mixtures of soybean oil, alcohol, water and detergents
can be emulsified into ultra-small particles smaller than 400 nanometers
wide (about 1/200th the width of a human hair). These could be combined with
any number of nano-microchips with all or part of disease-causing microbes
to trigger the body's immune system.

In 2007 researchers at the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL)
announced in an article in the journal, Nature Biotechnology, that they had
developed a "nanoparticle that can deliver vaccines more effectively, with
fewer side effects, and at a fraction of the cost of current vaccine
technologies." The article went on to describe the effects of their
breakthrough: "At a mere 25 nanometers, these particles are so tiny that
once injected, they flow through the skin's extracellular matrix, making a
beeline to the lymph nodes. Within minutes, they've reached a concentration
of DCs thousands of times greater than in the skin."

Russia has recently announced a new manufacturing plant that will strictly
produce nano-vaccines. Project plans include development of two vaccines for
human flu and bird flu and three biopharmaceuticals for boosting the immune
system and increasing the efficiency of antibacterial and antiviral drugs,
among other initiatives.

The human body is very resistant to nanoparticles that attempt to invade
human cells. Scientists are intensely investigating methods to disrupt human
enzymes that may degrade nanoparticles. Experts at the University of
Liverpool found a way around this obstacle that could mean more efficient,
topical drugs in the future, which could act a whole lot faster than the
ones currently in use.

All these nanotechnological advances raise many issues and concerns about
the toxicity and environmental impact of nanomaterials, and their potential
effects on medicine, global economics, as well as speculation about
government surveillance. These concerns have led to a debate among advocacy
groups and governments on whether special regulation of nanotechnology is
warranted.

The Environmental Protection Agency issued a news release last week saying
that it had "today outlined a new research strategy to better understand how
manufactured nanomaterials may harm human health and the environment."
Interesting as that strategy document is, it was hardly hot off the presses.

Indeed, many companies advertise their use of such
billionth-of-a-meter-scale constituents as a measure of a product's
state-of-the-art status, implying that ultra-small ingredients are an
inherently good thing. They aren't. Nor does size necessarily make these
materials worse than others. At this point it's just maddeningly
unpredictable what nano things will do.

Proponents of nanotechnology are very critical of regulatory measures that
may impeed its progression. Many of these critics have staunchly dismissed
concerns as being fear-hyped conspiracy theories based on science fiction.

In the popular video game series Metal Gear Solid, many characters and
soldiers in general, have "nanomachines" in their bloodstream, and are used
to block pain, allow members of fire teams/patrols to share sensory
information, heal bodily damage, as well as manipulating viruses central to
video game's plot line.

Through the use of special effects and computer-generated imagery, several
blockbusters starring Keanu Reeves including The Matrix Trilogy and The Day
the Earth Stood Still, have dramatized how nanobots could effectively take
control of their organic and inorganic targets.

Star Trek episodes and their theatrical releases such as Star Trek: First
Contact have also depicted how nanoprobes (nanites) could infect an
individual's bloodstream through a pair of tubules.

Regardless of the recurring themes of nanobots in video games, sci-fi shows
and movies, nanotechnology is a reality, and nano-microchips are well on
their way to being utilized in ways which may be detrimental to human health
and freedom on a global scale.

The development of nano-microchips are a major thrust of governments and
pharmaceutical industries who want the ultimate power and leverage over
global populations for more profit and more control.

In December 2000, Former Chief Medical Officer of Finland, Rauni-Leena
Luukanen-Kilde, MD stated that it is technically possible for every newborn
to be injected with a microchip, which could then function to identify the
person for the rest of his or her life. Such plans are secretly being
discussed in the U.S. without any public airing of the privacy issues
involved.

Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target
them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked
anywhere on the globe. Such a technique was among a number tested in the
Iraq war, according to Dr. Carl Sanders, who invented the
intelligence-manned interface (IMI) biotic, which is injected into people.
(Earlier during the Vietnam War, soldiers were injected with the Rambo chip,
designed to increase adrenaline flow into the bloodstream.) The
20-billion-bit/second supercomputers at the U.S. National Security Agency
(NSA) could now "see and hear" what soldiers experience in the battlefield
with a remote monitoring system (RMS).

When a 5-micromillimeter microchip (the diameter of a strand of hair is 50
micromillimeters) is placed into optical nerve of the eye, it draws
neuroimpulses from the brain that embody the experiences, smells, sights,
and voice of the implanted person. Once transferred and stored in a
computer, these neuroimpulses can be projected back to the person's brain
via the microchip to be reexperienced. Using a RMS, a land-based computer
operator can send electromagnetic messages (encoded as signals) to the
nervous system, affecting the target's performance. With RMS, healthy
persons can be induced to see hallucinations and to hear voices in their
heads.

Every thought, reaction, hearing, and visual observation causes a certain
neurological potential, spikes, and patterns in the brain and its
electromagnetic fields, which can now be decoded into thoughts, pictures,
and voices. Electromagnetic stimulation can therefore change a person's
brainwaves and affect muscular activity, causing painful muscular cramps
experienced as torture.

The NSA's electronic surveillance system can simultaneously follow and
handle millions of people. Each of us has a unique bioelectrical resonance
frequency in the brain, just as we have unique fingerprints. With
electromagnetic frequency (EMF) brain stimulation fully coded, pulsating
electromagnetic signals can be sent to the brain, causing the desired voice
and visual effects to be experienced by the target. This is a form of
electronic warfare. U.S. astronauts were implanted before they were sent
into space so their thoughts could be followed and all their emotions could
be registered 24 hours a day.

The mass media has not reported that an implanted person's privacy vanishes
for the rest of his or her life. S/he can be manipulated in many ways. Using
different frequencies, the secret controller of this equipment can even
change a person's emotional life. S/he can be made aggressive or lethargic.
Sexuality can be artificially influenced. Thought signals and subconscious
thinking can be read, dreams affected and even induced, all without the
knowledge or consent of the implanted person.

This secret technology has been used by military forces in certain NATO
countries since the 1980s without civilian and academic populations having
heard anything about it. Thus, little information about such invasive
mind-control systems is available in professional and academic journals.

The NSA's Signals Intelligence group can remotely monitor information from
human brains by decoding the evoked potentials (3.50HZ, 5 milliwatt) emitted
by the brain. Prisoner experimentees in both Gothenburg, Sweden and Vienna,
Austria have been found to have evident brain lesions. Diminished blood
circulation and lack of oxygen in the right temporal frontal lobes result
where brain implants are usually operative. A Finnish experimentee
experienced brain atrophy and intermittent attacks of unconsciousness due to
lack of oxygen.

Targeting people's brain functions with electromagnetic fields and beams
(from helicopters and airplanes, satellites, from parked vans, neighboring
houses, telephone poles, electrical appliances, mobile phones, TV, radio,
etc.) is part of the radiation problem that should be addressed by
democratically elected governments. However, there is currently no interest
by any national government to seriously address this issue.

The timeline for integrating nano-microchips inside of vaccines is
speculative. It could be just a few years, months or perhaps it is here and
we already unaware of their integration within pharmaceuticals. Regardless,
due to the many military and political advantages, their implementation is
inevitable.

However fraudulent, it was an imperative for world powers and pharmaceutical
cartels to promote the effectiveness of vaccinations and enact national
pandemic preparedness policies which mandate vaccinations.

In 2005 the World Health Organization (WHO) developed international health
regulations that would bind all 194 member countries to pandemic emergency
guidelines which could enforce such a mandate. Without these procedures of
public health (and propagandized vaccine campaigns) in place, there would be
little or no voluntary cooperation from the public to roll up their sleeves
and accept the inoculations. Public participation is an essential tool that
will soon allow big pharma to inject the most effective surveillence tool
ever designed into billions of people.

Although nanotechnology manufacturing is currently available on a global
scale, before biotech companies are able to initiate mass production and
testing of nano-microchips inside of vaccines, they will likely sell the
idea to the public. Through various "health enhancement scenarios" they will
encourage participation and publicly announce regulatory approval from the
same policies and regulatory agencies they helped create.

By mid-summer of 2009, the WHO and the Center of Disease Control (CDC)
effectively hyped a false flu pandemic and convinced the world to submit to
H1N1 vaccines. Additional doses of propaganda and possibly a biological
event, may equally convince populations to knowingly accept microchips
inside of vaccines under the guise of a "greater good" for humanity.

When our brain functions are already connected to supercomputers by means of
radio implants and microchips, it will be too late for protest. This threat
can be defeated only by educating the public, using available literature on
biotelemetry, nanorobotics and information exchanged at international
congresses.

The time to act is now!
dr_jeff - 31 Oct 2009 20:19 GMT
The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.
john - 31 Oct 2009 21:09 GMT
> The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority of
> the stuff you post, this is utter crap.

You would say that pharma boy
carole - 31 Oct 2009 23:28 GMT
> The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
> of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.

Well hang on a minute Dr Jeff.
I don't think this is too far fetched at all.
You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.

carole
www.cellsalts.net
www.conspiracee.com
Mark Probert - 01 Nov 2009 00:39 GMT
> > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
> > of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.
>
> Well hang on a minute Dr Jeff.
> I don't think this is too far fetched at all.

Nothing is too far fetched for a loon. You believe every wacko idea
and reject anything based on reality.

You are a rare being. You make Jan Drew look rational. That is
extremely hard to do.

> You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
> what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.

You would be surprised how people laugh at you for your gullibility.

> I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.

Proof.

> I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.

At the same time you lost your mind.
carole - 01 Nov 2009 01:07 GMT
> > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> You are a rare being. You make Jan Drew look rational. That is
> extremely hard to do.

If you think that being compared to Jan is an insult, you're obviously
one of those macho blokes who think that men are born to rule the
world, even if their opinions are moronic.

> > You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
> > what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
>
> You would be surprised how people laugh at you for your gullibility.

When you say people laugh at my gullibility, you'd be talking about
those same people who think that 911 was done by muslim terrorists,
and that the war in iraq is about making the world safe for democracy.
These are the people who have been sucked in big time, and these are
the people who hang on every word of propaganda fed to them.

> > I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
>
> Proof.

Put it this way -- there are the trusting ones who think that
everything is above board, and there are those who think that there
are puppet masters working behind the scenes.
I don't know how anybody with a rational mind can think that there
isn't big time manipulations going on to engineer the world to make
the rich richer and enslave the masses.

> > I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.
>
> At the same time you lost your mind.

All areas of human endeavour are sorted into cartels, with organised
crime at the top of all cartels (energy, government, military,
medicine, education etc) -- one rule for the rich and another for the
poor.
The poor people at the bottom see that there is accountability and
think it goes all the way to the top -- it doesn't.

carole
www.cellsalts.net
Mark Probert - 01 Nov 2009 03:36 GMT
> > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> one of those macho blokes who think that men are born to rule the
> world, even if their opinions are moronic.

Coming from  loon like you, I take that as a compliment. However, I do
not share your sexism.

> > > You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
> > > what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> When you say people laugh at my gullibility, you'd be talking about
> those same people who think that 911 was done by muslim terrorists,

Toots, I know you are a moron. You do not have to work so hard to
prove it to me. I live in a town where the church bells rang for weeks
after 9/11. I had friends and neighbors die. 9/11 was brought her eby
Arab terrorists. Do try to grab on to your last vestiges of sanity
before you are totally insane.

> and that the war in iraq is about making the world safe for democracy.

I believe that Iraq was the result of a temper tantrum by GWB, a
proven coward. He should have concentragted on Afganistan.

> These are the people who have been sucked in big time, and these are
> the people who hang on every word of propaganda fed to them.

But you know better. A real loon.

> > > I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> isn't big time manipulations going on to engineer the world to make
> the rich richer and enslave the masses.

Like I said, a real loon.

> > > I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The poor people at the bottom see that there is accountability and
> think it goes all the way to the top -- it doesn't.

I feel bad for you, living in such a dark, scary world.

> carolewww.cellsalts.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
carole - 01 Nov 2009 06:59 GMT
> > > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Coming from  loon like you, I take that as a compliment. However, I do
> not share your sexism.

Most blokes are sexist by default.
Unless men actively support feminism, they are sexist.
Women should have equal place in business and politics.

> > > > You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
> > > > what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Arab terrorists. Do try to grab on to your last vestiges of sanity
> before you are totally insane.

Oh so because 911 was such a catastrophe, it stands to reason that it
was done by muslim terrorists.
911 was a psyop, a psychological operation to get the public onside
for compliance with the war on terror, the phony war, the clayton's
war, the war you're having when you're not having a war.

> > and that the war in iraq is about making the world safe for democracy.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> But you know better. A real loon.

> > > > I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> I feel bad for you, living in such a dark, scary world.

Hey idiot, if you're country is wartorn like Iraq, your world is dark
and scary.
But I guess its ok as long as its not happening to you, right?

Sexist clown.

carole
www.cellsalts.net
Martin - 01 Nov 2009 10:38 GMT
>> > > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
>> > > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Most blokes are sexist by default.

Wooooosh! In that respect, Carole is a lot like Jan!
BTW Carole, are many of your best friendsmen by any chance?
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 03:15 GMT
>>> > > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
>>> > > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Wooooosh! In that respect, Carole is a lot like Jan!
>BTW Carole, are many of your best friendsmen by any chance?

Carole has no friends. not since she stopped taking baths.

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Mark Probert - 02 Nov 2009 01:07 GMT
> > > > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > > > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Oh so because 911 was such a catastrophe, it stands to reason that it
> was done by muslim terrorists.

No, I never said that.

If you did not use illogic, you would use no logic at all.

9/11 was the direct result of hatred directed at the US by Muslim
fundamentalists who despise us for our support of Israel.

> 911 was a psyop, a psychological operation to get the public onside
> for compliance with the war on terror, the phony war, the clayton's
> war, the war you're having when you're not having a war.

9/11 was  psyop?You mean burning buildings and dead neighbors wqs a
psyop? B U L L S H I T.

You offend the victims.

> > > and that the war in iraq is about making the world safe for democracy.
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Hey idiot, if you're country is wartorn like Iraq, your world is dark
> and scary.

I'll agree with that. SWe shoul dnever have been in Irq in the first
place. We should hve concentrated on Afganistan.

> But I guess its ok as long as its not happening to you, right?

Been to war.You have not. You do not have a clue.

War is one of those things you have to experience to understand just
how bad it is. Unless you have been there, you do not know.

> Sexist clown.

Far from it.I am surely no sexist.

But, I am somewhat of a clown.
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 03:14 GMT
>> > > > > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
>> > > > > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Unless men actively support feminism, they are sexist.
>Women should have equal place in business and politics.

feminism by definition is sexist.

Who says they don't have an equal place.

>> > > > You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
>> > > > what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Oh so because 911 was such a catastrophe, it stands to reason that it
>was done by muslim terrorists.

The evidence shows it was done by a group of terrorist which were
also all Muslims. It was the common denominator.

>911 was a psyop, a psychological operation to get the public onside
>for compliance with the war on terror, the phony war, the clayton's
>war, the war you're having when you're not having a war.

Sorry Carole, but you are wrong again... Do you ever get tire of
showing the world how stupid a person can be?

>> > and that the war in iraq is about making the world safe for democracy.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
>Sexist clown.

You are the only one of those here, Carole.

>carole
>www.cellsalts.net

Still haven't figured a way to make a proper signature.

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PeterB - Original - 04 Nov 2009 03:54 GMT
<nothing of note>
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 04:50 GMT
On Nov 3, 10:14 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

<nothing of note>
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WOW! An original post! Not, it's a copy of Janet Drews.

LOL, copying an old bag for heavens sake, how bad can things get?
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 12:59 GMT
><nothing of note>

Funny since I show her concern were totally unfounded.

If a small homemade device can and will destroy the mirco-chips. What
she is voicing is called paranoia, or just trying to make people
afraid without cause.

You do realize Carole is really rather stupid. almost as stupid as
you are.

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PeterB - Original - 06 Nov 2009 01:58 GMT
> ><nothing of note>
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You do realize Carole is really rather stupid. almost as stupid as
> you are.

Booby, you seem to think you are making an argument when posting.
Like yappy oyster, you have stew for brains.
Bob Officer - 07 Nov 2009 00:52 GMT
>> ><nothing of note>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Booby, you seem to think you are making an argument when posting.
>Like yappy oyster, you have stew for brains.

Petey, The point which you and carole ignore is those RFID chips can
be nullified by home made equipment which just about any electronics
tinker can brew up and about 30 minutes.

I built mine out of an old camera flash. It will "nullify and render
inert" a chip buried inside a 10 lbs roast beef. So it will work on
any "chip" inside a human body.

Not can you address the point or are you going to continue to be
Stupid, like Carole?

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PeterB - Original - 07 Nov 2009 04:49 GMT
> >> ><nothing of note>
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Not can you address the point or are you going to continue to be
> Stupid, like Carole?

Booby, you seem to think you are making an argument when posting.
Like yappy oyster, you have stew for brains.
Peter B. - 01 Nov 2009 03:14 GMT
On Nov 1, 6:19 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast
> majority
> of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.

Well hang on a minute Dr Jeff.
I don't think this is too far fetched at all.
You'd be surprised at what decisions are made behind closed doors and
what disinformation is fed to the trusting public.
I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.

carole
==========================================================
We know through RNM, so you have been "guided".
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 03:09 GMT
>> The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
>> microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast majority
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>I'll go with it, and anything else John turns up.
>I'm afraid the powers that be lost my trust a long time ago.

Carole those microchips can be completely disabled by an easily build
device in any home electronic workshop.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-blockkill-RFID-chips/

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/27/stick-it-to-the-man-with-your-very-own-rfid-z
apper/


As usual you know nothing of which to speak about.

Do you actually work at being this stupid.

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PeterB - Original - 04 Nov 2009 04:07 GMT
> Do you actually work at being this stupid.

PROJECTION.
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 04:52 GMT
On Nov 3, 10:09 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

> Do you actually work at being this stupid.

PROJECTION.
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You are really twisted and sick!
There was nothing in that post to get aroused about, you sick pervert.
Peter B. - 01 Nov 2009 03:12 GMT
> The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast
> majority of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.

No priming was necessary.
carole - 01 Nov 2009 07:00 GMT
> > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
> > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast
> > majority of the stuff you post, this is utter crap.
>
> No priming was necessary.

Now hang on, which Peter is this -- I get mixed up.
Is this the altie PeterB or the anti-altie PeterB?

carole
www.cellsalts.net
Martin - 01 Nov 2009 10:39 GMT
>> > The answer to the question is no, people are not being primed for
>> > microchips in vaccines. This is science fiction. Like the vast
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>carole
>www.cellsalts.net

Time to get really paranoid Carole! They're everywhere!
Martin - 31 Oct 2009 22:09 GMT
>Are Populations Being Primed For Nano-Microchips Inside Vaccines?
>
>http://preventdisease.com/news/09/100509_injectable_nano_microchips.shtml
>
>2009

OMFS, really, this stuff should be compulsory for psychiatrists in
training. Prime example of someone with severe paranoid delusions who
never the less is functional.
Mark Thorson - 31 Oct 2009 22:45 GMT
> When our brain functions are already connected to supercomputers by means of
> radio implants and microchips, it will be too late for protest. This threat
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The time to act is now!

Why inject them when they can be included for
perfectly legitimate reasons (anti-counterfeiting)
in dietary supplements and homeopathic medicines?
Many more people take these products orally than
receive injections of any kind.

They've been used as tracers in those products
for years, to ensure that phony homeopathic
medicines (mostly made in mainland China)
are not sold in the U.S. and Europe.
Nobody would notice if they were enhanced with
additional capabilities.
carole - 31 Oct 2009 23:31 GMT
> > When our brain functions are already connected to supercomputers by means of
> > radio implants and microchips, it will be too late for protest. This threat
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Nobody would notice if they were enhanced with
> additional capabilities.

Yes Mark, the each vaccination no doubt has a batch and serial number,
which can be matched to a particular patient.

carole
www.cellsalts.net
Peter B. - 01 Nov 2009 03:10 GMT
> Are Populations Being Primed For Nano-Microchips Inside Vaccines?
>
> The time to act is now!

Too late, the nano-chips you described? Well a few thousand are included
with each inhale of the vapor H1N1 vacs, primarily children are
receiving the "shots". Some will directly enter the brain others will
pass through and some will stop at designated parts of the body.

You've been foiled. Through RNL you've been deceived into thinking you
have had headaches recently.

There is no recourse, you are doomed.
carole - 01 Nov 2009 07:02 GMT
> > Are Populations Being Primed For Nano-Microchips Inside Vaccines?
>
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>
> There is no recourse, you are doomed.

Are you the original PeterB or the other one?

carole
www.cellsalts.net
PeterB - Original - 01 Nov 2009 16:52 GMT
> > "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> carolewww.cellsalts.net

Hi Carole, "Peter B." is the shadow poster.  I added the word
"original" to my screen name to help.
john - 01 Nov 2009 18:40 GMT
On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2:10 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> carolewww.cellsalts.net

Hi Carole, "Peter B." is the shadow poster.  I added the word
"original" to my screen name to help.

that explains a bit, thought you had a nasty alter ego
Peter B. - 01 Nov 2009 23:15 GMT
> On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 2:10 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> that explains a bit, thought you had a nasty alter ego

He does, err I do, um nevermind.
PeterB - Original - 02 Nov 2009 19:01 GMT
> On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
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>
> that explains a bit, thought you had a nasty alter ego

That's why shadow posters do it.  Note his reply to you is here has
the same intent.
Martin - 02 Nov 2009 20:59 GMT
>> On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>That's why shadow posters do it.  Note his reply to you is here has
>the same intent.

I'm almost tempted to change my nickname to......
t - 03 Nov 2009 12:13 GMT
>>> On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>>That's why shadow posters do it.  Note his reply to you is here has
>>the same intent.

Martin, why do you want people to suffer and then die from Cancer? Why do
you want them to suffer so before they die?
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 03:18 GMT
>>> On Nov 1, 2:02 am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
>I'm almost tempted to change my nickname to......

Nothing too radycal, I hope

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Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au

Peter B. - 03 Nov 2009 00:22 GMT
On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:33932538-6cbd-44ce-88d5-fddac111e707@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> that explains a bit, thought you had a nasty alter ego

That's why shadow posters do it.  Note his reply to you is here has
the same intent.
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There is no such thing as shadow posters. Unless you think of your alter
ego as a shadow of yourself in which case you are openly admitting that
you sock up to confuse ordinary people. How many alter egos do you have
and why have you not discussed them with me?

Am I not your favorite anymore?
Mark Probert - 03 Nov 2009 01:48 GMT
> On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> ==================================================
> There is no such thing as shadow posters.

Anti-vacs need to create bogey-men to help prove their claims. Petey
is well known for his idiotsyncratic use of words.

Unless you think of your alter
> ego as a shadow of yourself in which case you are openly admitting that
> you sock up to confuse ordinary people. How many alter egos do you have
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>
> - Show quoted text -
PeterB - Original - 03 Nov 2009 05:12 GMT
> > On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
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> Anti-vacs need to create bogey-men to help prove their claims.
> Petey is well known for his idiotsyncratic use of words.

That must explain why you can't cite sources supporting anything you
have to say.  Oh, that's right, your time is too valuable to bother
doing that, and besides, the published science proves you to be a
liar.  Say hello to your sponsors for me, okay?
Mark Probert - 03 Nov 2009 15:25 GMT
> > > On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
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>
> That must explain why you can't

I have told you 10000000000 times. It is not *can't* but *won't* and
why I won't to you.

I am sorry you are learning disabled.

Bullshit removed. If a bullshitter cannot get the basics right, like
understanding the difference between 'can't' and 'won't' why would any
intelligent person expect him to get anything right?
PeterB - Original - 03 Nov 2009 16:10 GMT
> > > > On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
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> I have told you 10000000000 times. It is not *can't* but *won't* and
> why I won't to you.

Proving you to be a fraud.  What a shock.

> I am sorry you are learning disabled.

Since no published science supports your bogus claims promoting
vaccine, I am not the one making a fool of himself referring to
evidence that does not exist.

> Bullshit removed. If a bullshitter cannot get the basics right, like
> understanding the difference between 'can't' and 'won't' why would
> any intelligent person expect him to get anything right?

Let us know when you find an argument that works.  Meanwhile, you can
find yourself in the "Warning" post, at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/f569f86c8ed22f4e
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 01:30 GMT
On Nov 3, 10:25 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Let us know when you find an argument that works.  Meanwhile, you can
find yourself in the "Warning" post, at
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/f569f86c8ed22f4e
=================================================================
Please put me in it too, I would be honored whatever it is.
Mark Probert - 04 Nov 2009 14:26 GMT
> On Nov 3, 10:25 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:>Let us know when you find an argument that works.  Meanwhile, you can
>
> find yourself in the "Warning" post, athttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/f569f86c8ed22f4e
> =================================================================
> Please put me in it too, I would be honored whatever it is.

You should read his "waring post" as it is a classic example of the
logical fallacy of "poisoning the well". I mentioned this to a teacher
at my old high school, he found it, and uses it in his class and as
the faculty advisor of the schools national award winning debating
team.
Peter B-Aboriginal - 05 Nov 2009 04:24 GMT
On Nov 3, 8:30 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:9fd17987-5e3c-45a5-98d2-3afc117c9124@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
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> =================================================================
> Please put me in it too, I would be honored whatever it is.

You should read his "waring post" as it is a classic example of the
logical fallacy of "poisoning the well". I mentioned this to a teacher
at my old high school, he found it, and uses it in his class and as
the faculty advisor of the schools national award winning debating
team.
==========================================================\
Then he served one useful purpose. ;)
Mark Probert - 05 Nov 2009 15:02 GMT
> On Nov 3, 8:30 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
>
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> ==========================================================\
> Then he served one useful purpose. ;)

Many years ago someone said that Jan Drew was useless.

I immediately jumped to her defense (hard to believe, but, the truth
will out).

I pointed out that she is NOT useless. I use her as a bad example all
the time.
t - 03 Nov 2009 12:20 GMT
"Mark Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0354c157-de45-4c22-96b8-67e28b
Mark, why do you support lies and death?
Mark Probert - 03 Nov 2009 15:25 GMT
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0354c157-de45-4c22-96b8-67e28b
> Mark, why do you support lies and death?

Strawman.

Tikkun Olam
PeterB - Original - 03 Nov 2009 04:58 GMT
> On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Am I not your favorite anymore?

No one is buying it, a.shole.
Peter B. - 03 Nov 2009 06:06 GMT
On Nov 2, 7:22 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:fbca3ed5-e0de-4c0e-857e-499047a5f4bb@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
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>
> Am I not your favorite anymore?

No one is buying it, a.shole.
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You break my heart brother, I will relay your thoughts to our advisor
and let him sort out your bitterness.
Martin - 03 Nov 2009 18:07 GMT
>> On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>>
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>
>No one is buying it, a.shole.

Oh, but I like how he gets on your nerves.
PeterB - Original - 03 Nov 2009 21:35 GMT
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:16 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original
>
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>
> Oh, but I like how he gets on your nerves.

That would require a person of moderate intelligence.  Neither of you
have anything to worry about.
Martin - 03 Nov 2009 22:07 GMT
>> <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 1, 1:40 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
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>That would require a person of moderate intelligence.  Neither of you
>have anything to worry about.

What makes you thing that someone getting on your nerves worries me?
PeterB - Original - 04 Nov 2009 00:36 GMT
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:35:13 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original
>
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>
> What makes you thing that someone getting on your nerves worries me?

That's what I like about you, marty, you have no worries.  Morons
never do.
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 01:44 GMT
On Nov 3, 5:07 pm, Martin <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 3, 1:07 pm, Martin <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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>
> What makes you thing that someone getting on your nerves worries me?

That's what I like about you, marty, you have no worries.  Morons
never do.
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And you know that *How*? How many pages did it take you to write it out
before you could spell it naturally
Martin - 04 Nov 2009 09:10 GMT
>> <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:16 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original
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>That's what I like about you, marty, you have no worries.  Morons
>never do.

It's not worry Petey, it's a giddy feeling. The same feeling I get
when I look at the surveilance pictures our Black Helicopters took
from your house. You know, with those modern IR camera's, I can even
see right through the walls.
PeterB - Original - 06 Nov 2009 02:54 GMT
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:36:23 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original
>
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> from your house. You know, with those modern IR camera's, I can
> even see right through the walls.

Let us know when you can see through the wall you fabricate on behalf
of your sponsors.
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 01:36 GMT
On Nov 3, 1:07 pm, Martin <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 2, 7:22 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
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>
> Oh, but I like how he gets on your nerves.

That would require a person of moderate intelligence.  Neither of you
have anything to worry about.
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Very Cool, alter shadow, nice of you to admit that we both excel at
intelligence. I suppose what you were saying/admitting is that you are
easily bested. Now how can I be so smart on one side of the fence but
not in an altered state?
PeterB - Original - 04 Nov 2009 01:45 GMT
> On Nov 3, 1:07 pm, Martin <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
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> easily bested. Now how can I be so smart on one side of the fence but
> not in an altered state?

The idiot shadow poster takes a stab at wit and stabbed him self.
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 04:53 GMT
On Nov 3, 8:36 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:d651cf0f-390b-49c9-b5e8-83fbe71e6d2f@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
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> easily bested. Now how can I be so smart on one side of the fence but
> not in an altered state?

The idiot shadow poster takes a stab at wit and stabbed him self.
=======================================================
Did it hurt you as much as it did me?
t - 03 Nov 2009 12:18 GMT
"Peter B." <info@i-brag.com> wrote in message news:4aef77eb@

Peter, why are you such a oozing infection on the rest of the world?
Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 01:48 GMT
> "Peter B." <info@i-brag.com> wrote in message news:4aef77eb@
>>
> Peter, why are you such a oozing infection on the rest of the world?

Because vaccinations were not permitted?

Good one little "t'', a three syllable word, and used properly, but you
do overestimate my ability to do damage.
Jan Drew - 02 Nov 2009 00:00 GMT
> > > "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote in message
>
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> Hi Carole, "Peter B." is the shadow poster. �I added the word
> "original" to my screen name to help.

The troll:

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Peter B. - 02 Nov 2009 02:38 GMT
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The troll:

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So you are a stalker after all.
Bob Officer - 04 Nov 2009 03:19 GMT
>On Nov 1, 11:52�am, PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 2:02�am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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>So you are a stalker after all.

Was there ever any real doubt?

Signature

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Posting the truth
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Peter B. - 04 Nov 2009 04:55 GMT
>>On Nov 1, 11:52�am, PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 1, 2:02�am, carole <hubbca2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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>
> Was there ever any real doubt?

Naw, but I had to do it. :)
john - 04 Nov 2009 13:22 GMT
killfiled
Mark Probert - 04 Nov 2009 14:27 GMT
> killfiled

Mind closed (after he finds it).
Peter Bowditch - 01 Nov 2009 20:39 GMT
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>Are you the original PeterB or the other one?

He's one of at least three.

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