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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 Deadly Disease Eliminated in Children under Five Years of Age in Uganda http://www.gavialliance.org/resources/home_1_noflash.jpg http://www.gavialliance.org/media_centre/press_releases/2008_03_10_ug... [*QUOTE*] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deadly Disease Eliminated in Children under Five Years of Age in Uganda Nearly 100 Percent Drop in Hib Meningitis as a Result of Widespread Vaccination GENEVA, SWITZERLAND, 10 March 2008 - Hib meningitis has been virtually eliminated in young children in Uganda just five years after the country introduced Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine nationwide, according to an independent study. Haemophilus influenzae type b is a leading cause of pneumonia and meningitis, an inflammation of the lining covering the brain and spinal cord. Each year, Hib kills approximately 400,000 children under five years of age, most of them in the developing world. It is also responsible for approximately three million cases of serious illnesses resulting in long-term consequences such as deafness, paralysis, mental retardation and learning disabilities. The positive results are outlined in a study to be published in the April issue of The Bulletin of the World Health Organization, an independent peer-reviewed international public health journal. Advanced publication of the study can be found at http://www.who.int/bulletin/publish_ahead_of_print/en/index.html Upon monitoring occurrence of bacterial meningitis due to Hib between 2001 to 2006, the study’s authors saw marked decline in the disease resulting from implementation of a new vaccination program. Where monitored, the incidence rate dropped by 85 percent within four years of vaccine introduction and fell to zero in the fifth year. The authors estimate that Hib vaccine in the Ugandan immunisation programme now prevents almost 30,000 cases of severe Hib disease and 5,000 child deaths (under five years) annually, equivalent to the successful control of measles in the country. Funding for Hib vaccine is a major part of the GAVI Alliance's (formerly known as the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation) programme support to Uganda. With GAVI support, Uganda was able to introduce 16.5 million doses of Hib vaccines nationwide from 2002 to 2006. The government chose to use what is known as a pentavalent vaccine - a 5 in 1 injection that includes vaccines for Hib as well as diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and hepatitis B. "GAVI welcomes these extremely positive results" said Dr Julian Lob-Levyt, Executive Secretary of the GAVI Alliance. "Thanks to the collaborative efforts of the Ugandan Ministry of Health, the WHO, UNICEF and other partners, we can applaud a true success in controlling this deadly disease that has too often claimed so many lives." Uganda was one of the first GAVI-eligible countries to adopt Hib vaccine, preceding what is now a global trend. According to a recent report released by WHO, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Hib Initiative, between 2004 and 2007 the proportion of the 72 poorest countries eligible for GAVI support using or approved to use Hib vaccine increased from 18 percent to 65 percent. In November, the GAVI board approved additional funding for Hib vaccine, bringing the total number of countries with approved proposals to 44. "This is excellent news for the future generations of Ugandanchildren. Uganda has been afrontrunner in the Africa region in adopting this life-saving vaccine. The leadership of early introducers such as Uganda, Kenyaand The Gambia hasstronglyinfluencedthe decisions of many other countries in the region to adoptHib vaccine. Today, 83% of the GAVI-eligible countries in Africa have now included or will soon include Hib vaccine in their national immunization programmes” says Rana Hajjeh, Director of the Hib Initiative. "We are proud of the results of this study. It's encouraging to know that these kinds of interventions in Uganda and elsewhere are making a significant contribution towards achieving the Millennium Development Goal of reducing mortality in children less than 5 years of age," says Dr Sam Zaramba, Director General of Uganda Ministry of Health "And GAVI's support was catalytic in allowing us to tackle this disease quickly and efficiently." The Government of Uganda recently committed national resources to procure Hib vaccine for its infant immunisation programme, in line with the GAVI co-financing policy. "The introduction of Hib vaccine has now completely changed the epidemiology of bacterial meningitis in Uganda, with elimination of meningitis due to Hib as a public health problem" says Dr Kekitiinwa - Pediatrician at Mulago Hospital,in Kampala Uganda, co-author of the study. "High quality surveillance has allowed us to understand and monitor those trends to ensure the quality of the immunisation programme, improve collaboration between clinicians and laboratories and inform on drug susceptibility for the common organisms." Although Hib vaccines for infants were first licensed in 1991 and have since been widely adopted in industrialised countries, they have not been used extensively in the developing world due to multiple barriers such as limited Hib disease awareness, uncertainty about the burden of disease and concerns about the financial and logistical implications of vaccine introduction. It took almost 15 years for the Hib vaccine to be introduced in developing countries after it was first licensed. There are efforts underway to bridge this gap by reducing the number of years developing countries have to wait to benefit from new vaccines. In 2007, a pilot Advance Market Commitment (AMC) was announced, aiming at accelerating the introduction of new vaccines in poor countries. The Uganda results follow similar results found in Bangladesh, Kenya, Chile, the Gambia, the United Kingdom, and United States. These studies have all concluded that Hib vaccine cuts the incidence of disease by 88% or more within 3 to 5 years. In July 2007, a study from Bangladesh showed that routine immunisation of infants with a Hib conjugate vaccine prevented over one third of life-threatening pneumonia cases and approximately 90% of Hib meningitis cases. A Kenyan study in 2006 showed that the Hib vaccine cut the incidence of disease by 88% within 3 years. The authors say that vaccinating against the bacterium Haemophilus influenzae type b prevented approximately 3,370 Kenyan children from being hospitalised in 2005. The authors say that prior studies have shown that for every child with Hib meningitis in developing countries, there may be 5 to 10 others with Hib-related pneumonia, which is also preventable by vaccination. To achieve results more quickly, the WHO position paper on Hib vaccine recommends that children at highest risk, those under 2 years of age, be offered immunization at the time of vaccine introduction. The GAVI Alliance The GAVI Alliance is a public-private partnership of major stakeholders in vaccines and immunisation. It includes developing country and donor governments, the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the World Bank, the vaccine industry in both industrialised and developing countries, research and technical agencies, NGOs, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and other private philanthropists. WHO projections show that GAVI support has prevented more than 2.9 million future deaths by the end of 2007. GAVI's efforts are critical to achieving the Millennium Development Goal on child health, which calls for reducing childhood mortality by two thirds by 2015. Of the 10 million children who die before reaching their fifth birthday every year, 2.5 million die from diseases that could be prevented with currently available or new vaccines. For more information, please visit: http://www.gavialliance.org The Hib Initiative In December 2005, the GAVI Alliance launched a $37 million program called the Hib Initiative, which unites infectious disease experts from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and WHO to advance evidence-informed decision-making regarding the use of Hib vaccine in the developing world. An estimated 3 million cases of Hib disease occur each year in children under the age of 5 years, resulting in approximately 400,000 deaths. For more information, please visit: http://www.hibaction.org For more information, please contact: GAVI Alliance: Jeffrey Rowland, (Geneva) +41 22 909 7165 office + 41 79 240 45 59 mobile jrowland [bat] gavialliance.org Carol Vieira (New York) +1 (401) 714-0821 office +1 (571) 723.2432 mobile CVieira [bat] burnesscommunications.com Photo requests: Sandra Scolari +41 22 909 6528 office sscolari [bat] gavialliance.org Michel Aublanc (Paris) +33 6 08 71 97 95 mobile michel.aublanc [bat] wanadoo.fr Cathy Bartley (London) +44 208 694 9138 office +44 795 856 1671 mobile cathy.bartley [bat] bartley-robbs.co.uk Claudio Tanca(Rome) +39 06 697 6661 office +39 347 530 9256 mobile ctanca [bat] apcoworldwide.com B-roll: Download at http://www.gavialliance.org/media_centre/videos/broadcast/index.php Hib Initiative: Lois Privor-Dumm +1 410 502 4292 office +1 484 354 8054 mobile lprivord [bat] jhsph.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [*/QUOTE*] Vaccination saves lives!  SignatureSchwerer Pfusch Arzneimittelprüfung http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_amp.htm Woman Says Flu Shot Triggered Rare Disorder http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=92345&catid=158 14 Oct 2009 ASHBURN, Va. (WUSA) -- Many of you have been lining up to get the seasonal flu shot. But there is one Ashburn woman who wants you to hear her story before you do. Desiree Jennings is trapped in her body. Intellectually she's all there, but her muscles are fighting each other. She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating neurological disease. She says after taking the seasonal flu shot she witnessed her body's rapid decline. She doesn't know what else it could be but she has serious questions about the seasonal flu shot. The Centers for Disease Control cannot comment on her case. Desiree was a healthy 25-year-old up until two months ago, working at AOL and as a Redskins cheerleading ambassador. But her world has now been turned upside down. Desiree has trouble talking and speaks in a staccato rhythm. She says, "It's a battle every day because when I wake up I think it's going to be normal, but then I'm quickly reminded that's not going to be the case." She says 10 days after getting a seasonal flu shot at a Reston grocery store in August, and on her second wedding anniversary, she got sick. First, she came down with flu like symptoms, then convulsions and blacking out. She's seen more than 60 doctors. She says all of them were stumped until Johns Hopkins diagnosed her with dystonia. She believes her seasonal flu shot triggered it. Desiree says, "Nothing else explains such a fast moving neurological damage. The medical hospitals ruled out everything, CAT scans normal, blood normal, MRI normal. The only thing that explains it is the shot caused the neurologic damage." She says it is a strange disorder where muscles work against each other. She can't walk forward, only backwards. She can run, but she can't stop without help. She can whisper but has difficulty speaking. Noises can cause convulsions. Her resting heart rate is 90. When she runs her blood pressure dips to 58. She gets exhausted walking a few steps but she could run for hours. Drugs such as valium and klonopin that make other people sleepy give her energy for hours. Simple exercises become nearly impossible. Desiree's husband, Brendan, says, "It gets worse everyday. It's heartbreaking to see." Desiree says the disease is irreversible. Once she loses an ability it doesn't come back. She says there are only three ways you can get dystonia as an adult and they include head trauma, drug use, and poisoning. She says she has not experienced any of that. There is no cure. One in a million are diagnosed with the disease. She says she just wants healthy people to talk to their doctors and weigh the risk. While the Centers for Disease Control cannot comment directly on this case, they say they have no knowledge of a link between the seasonal flu shot and dystonia. Written by Surae Chinn 9NEWS NOW & wusa9.com >Woman Says Flu Shot Triggered Rare Disorder > >http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=92345&catid=158 > >14 Oct 2009 http://www.gavialliance.org/media_centre/press_releases/2009_08_11_india_pentava lent.php <quote> 18 million Indian children to receive life-saving five-in-one vaccine One of the millions of Indian children set to benefit from the pentavalent vaccine. Copyright: UNICEF/2005/Pallava Bagla US$165 million grant from GAVI will kick off massive introduction of new vaccine. Geneva, 11 August 2009 More than 18 million children in India will be immunised with a pentavalent five-in-one vaccine thanks to funding worth US$ 165 million from the GAVI Alliance, a public-private partnership which brings together all key players in immunisation including the Indian government, the World Health Organization, UNICEF, donors, industry and the Hib Initiative. A decision by the GAVI Alliances Executive Committee in Geneva announced today paves the way for the introduction of the combination vaccine in India, where some 27 million children are born each year. This is the first phase of a national roll-out which will start in 10 states. The decision to approve the funding was communicated to Indian Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad by GAVI Alliance Deputy CEO Helen Evans on Monday 10 August. Ninety percent of world's poorest children Indias important and far-sighted decision to introduce the pentavalent vaccine will bring the country and the world significantly closer to achieving Millennium Development Goal 4" GAVI CEO, Dr. Julian Lob-Levyt The pentavalent vaccine protects against five potential killers -- diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), hepatitis B, and Haemophilus influenzae type b (often known as Hib) which causes some severe forms of pneumonia and meningitis. Children need to be vaccinated three times before they can be considered fully immunised. While children in all countries are routinely immmunised against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis and increasingly hepatitis B, the introduction of this pentavalent vaccine in India, will mean that now more than 90% of the worlds poorest children will be vaccinated against Hib. Globally, Hib kills more than 370,000 children under five every year; nearly 20% of these children die in India. Survivors are often permanently paralyzed, deafened or brain damaged. Routine introduction of Hib vaccine has been proven to prevent the majority of severe bacterial meningitis and up to one third of life-threatening cases of bacterial pneumonia, the leading infectious cause of death in children worldwide. Critical step The introduction of the pentavalent vaccine in India is a critical step in our governments efforts to protect all Indian children from deadly diseases, said Indias Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad. We are glad to be working with the GAVI Alliance to turn this long-held vision into a reality for millions of families. I am extremely thankful to GAVI for assistance given for pentavalent vaccine. Indias important and far-sighted decision to introduce the pentavalent vaccine will bring the country and the world significantly closer to achieving Millennium Development Goal 4, which aims to reduce child mortality by two-thirds by 2015, said Dr. Julian Lob-Levyt. With such a significant number of pneumonia deaths occurring in India, we are pleased to see India recognising the importance of adding protection against Hib while continuing to work on strengthening routine immunisation." One of largest-ever GAVI grants In one of its largest-ever single grants, GAVI will fund the first two years of pentavalent vaccine introduction in India. In the first year, the pentavalent vaccine will reach more than 10 million children in 10 states -- about 40 percent of Indias total number of babies born each year. By funding the introduction of the pentavalent vaccine, GAVI will equip India to expand its use in the rest of the country. Pneumonia control strategy Introduction of Hib vaccine in India will save thousands of childrens lives, said Panna Choudhury, President of the Indian Academy of Pediatrics. Routine use of Hib vaccine is an essential piece of a comprehensive pneumonia control strategy to reduce the disease's terrible burden on children. "No child should die or suffer from this preventable disease, said Dr. Mathuram Santosham, executive committee member of the Hib Initiative at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Hib vaccine is a safe, effective intervention that has been used for more than nearly 20 years in developed countries. Where used routinely in countries such as Kenya, Uganda and the Gambia, it has been proven to virtually eliminate Hib disease. Pentavalent vaccine is now available from Indian suppliers and is expected to be used both in children in India and around the world. With increasing demand, this indigenous supply will play an important role in saving childrens lives. The GAVI Alliance The GAVI Alliance is a Geneva-based public-private partnership aimed at improving health in the worlds poorest countries. The Alliance brings together developing country and donor governments, the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the World Bank, the vaccine industry in both industrialised and developing countries, research and technical agencies, NGOs, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and other private philanthropists. GAVI support consists of providing life-saving vaccines and strengthening health systems. Since 2000, 213 million children have been vaccinated and 3.4 million premature deaths averted thanks to GAVI-funded programmes. For more information, please visit: www.gavialliance.org The Hib Initiative The Hib Initiative unites experts from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, the World Health Organization, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and provides technical, coordination and communication support to countries making decisions regarding the use of Hib vaccine. The Hib Initiative is supported by a 4-year grant from the GAVI Alliance. The Hib vaccine is being used or will soon be used in at least 62 developing countries eligible for support from the GAVI Alliance. For more information, visit www.hibaction.org For more information, please contact: Dan Thomas GAVI Alliance Tel: +41.22.909.6524 Mobile: +41 79 251 8581 dthomas@gavialliance.org Ariane Leroy GAVI Alliance Tel: +41.22.909.6521 Mobile: +41 79 340 1878 aleroy@gavialliance.org Rose Reis Hib Initiative Tel: +1- 410-502-4283 rreis@jhsph.edu Dr. Sunil D. Khaparde Indias Ministry of Health & Family Welfare Mobile: + 91-9958097015 </quote> . SignatureHow a sect kills YOUR children http://www.pharmamafia.com > She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating > neurological disease. >She doesn't know what else it could be a common effect in dumb people. > She says 10 days after getting a seasonal flu shot at a Reston grocery > store in August, and on her second wedding anniversary, she got sick. > First, she came down with flu like symptoms, then convulsions and blacking > out. sore throat? headache? NO, she barfed. not a h1n1 symptom DUMBASS > She believes her seasonal flu shot triggered it. > Desiree says, "Nothing else explains such a fast moving neurological > damage. except for dystonia > The medical hospitals ruled out everything, CAT scans normal, blood > normal, MRI normal. The only thing that explains it is the shot caused the > neurologic damage." Not at all, this is a dumb uneducated girl talking. > She says it is a strange disorder where muscles work against each other. She > Desiree's husband, Brendan, says, "It gets worse everyday. It's > heartbreaking to see." > > Desiree says the disease is irreversible. Once she loses an ability it > doesn't come back. She says there are only three ways you can get dystonia > as an adult and they include head trauma, drug use, and poisoning. > While the Centers for Disease Control cannot comment directly on this > case, they say they have no knowledge of a link between the seasonal flu > shot and dystonia. WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking. I new it was horseshit! lol > > She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating > > neurological disease. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking. > I new it was horseshit! lol It appears that while Ms Jennings sincerely believes that she is a victim of a adverse vaccine reaction, she is much more likely suffering from psychogenic dystonia. The facts, not her conjecture, are what really matters. It is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. Also, she accepts the Johns Hopkin's diagnosis of dystonia, but not the fact that they refer to her case as an example of Psychogenic Dystonia. http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner~y2009m10d1 6-Woman-claiming-she-acquired-dystonia-from-a-flu-shot-may-have-it-all-in-her-he ad On the October 16, 2009, Fox News show, "The O'Reilly Factor", Dr. Leigh Vinocur from the University of Maryland Medical System offered an alternative cause to Ms. Jennings' syndrome. Dr. Vinocur stated that there have been no cases of dystonia associated with the flu vaccine and that neurology experts at the University of Maryland were using Ms. Jennings' case to teach neurology residents about psychogenic dystonia. Dystonia is a neurological disorder where twitches and other repetitive, involuntary reactions occur. Normally, these repetitive actions do not let up. In the interview videos, Ms. Jennings' symptoms subside at times. According to Dr. Vinocur, neurologists saw the video and were convinced it was psychogenic. Psychogenic disorders do not mean that a person is faking their symptoms. Rather, it means that the person truly believes that the symptoms are real. However, there is no physiological reason for the symptoms. It truly is all in their head. Examples include phantom limb syndrome, where a hand that has been amputated along with a limb is felt by the person as being clinched or still being there. Psychotherapy or some medications to treat the mental issues can help deal with psychogenic disorders. Another important detail in Ms. Jennings' story is that she acquired flu from the flu vaccine. This is a scientific impossiblity. The flu virus in the injected vaccine is dead, inactive. In the solution being injected, the virus has no cells in which to live and reproduce. Viruses are, by definition, obligate intracellular parasites. They need cells to live, grow, and reproduce. There has been no recorded case of acquired flu from the flu shot vaccine. Likewise, if true, Ms. Jennings would be the first case of dystonia as a result of the flu vaccine. Furthermore, the Food and Drug Administration did not find anything wrong or different about the lot of vaccine used. On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > vaccine. Furthermore, the Food and Drug Administration did not find > anything wrong or different about the lot of vaccine used. Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. Seeing is believing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/FluVaccinesDoNotWorkforKidsortheElderly.html http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_70107.html Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080829091323.htm Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET The Canadian Press There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests. In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom Jefferson argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be "urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths. Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET The Canadian Press There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests. In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom Jefferson argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be "urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths. Flu Shot Season - Think twice before you shoot! I'd like to repeat the Flu/Alzheimer's connection that so many of you have asked about. According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. I asked Dr. Fudenberg why this was so and he said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and some childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? Notes: Recorded from Dr. Fudenberg's speech at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission. Alzheimer's to quadruple statement is from John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998. Dr. Fudenberg's web address is www.nitrf.org. Interesting info on treating autism on the site. Randall Neustaedter OMD author of The Vaccine Guide says this: The flu vaccine gets the most-useless-vaccine-of-all-time award. Now the CDC is recommending the vaccine for children under two years old and all adults over 50. Don't fall for it. Flu Facts * Flu vaccine manufacturers are notoriously inaccurate at predicting the appropriate viruses to use in an individual year's vaccine, rendering the vaccine ineffective. * Flu vaccine is relatively ineffective in those patients most at risk of flu complications. * The vaccine has caused GBS in recipients during several different flu seasons. * Those most at risk of flu complications probably share a higher risk of adverse reactions to the flu vaccine as well. Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p-Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p- Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p- Isooctylphenyl Ether, Hemaggluttinin. Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices MONDAY, Oct. 6 (HealthDay News) -- Over the past two flu seasons, vaccinating children five and younger did not reduce the number of child hospitalizations or doctor's visits linked to influenza, according to results of a new study. Given the poor match between the flu vaccine and circulating strains during the last two years, "this finding is not surprising," said Dr. Robert Belshe, a professor of medicine and pediatrics and director of the Center for Vaccine Development at the Saint Louis University Medical Center, who was not involved in the study. "We know that the inactivated vaccine -- the flu shot -- doesn't work real well in children, particularly when the virus has evolved and drifted away from the type that is put in the vaccine," he said. Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080829091323.htm Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows ScienceDaily (Aug. 31, 2008) — The widely-held perception that the influenza vaccination reduces overall mortality risk in the elderly does not withstand careful scrutiny, according to researchers in Alberta. The vaccine does confer protection against specific strains of influenza, but its overall benefit appears to have been exaggerated by a number of observational studies that found a very large reduction in all-cause mortality among elderly patients who had been vaccinated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See also: Health & Medicine Today's Healthcare Vaccines Influenza Diseases and Conditions Bird Flu Cold and Flu Reference Flu vaccine Vaccination MMR vaccine Chickenpox The study included more than 700 matched elderly subjects, half of whom had taken the vaccine and half of whom had not. After controlling for a wealth of variables that were largely not considered or simply not available in previous studies that reported the mortality benefit, the researchers concluded that any such benefit "if present at all, was very small and statistically non-significant and may simply be a healthy-user artifact that they were unable to identify." "While such a reduction in all-cause mortality would have been impressive, these mortality benefits are likely implausible. Previous studies were likely measuring a benefit not directly attributable to the vaccine itself, but something specific to the individuals who were vaccinated—a healthy-user benefit or frailty bias," said Dean T. Eurich,Ph.D. clinical epidemiologist and assistant professor at the School of Public Health at the University of Alberta. "Over the last two decades in the United Sates, even while vaccination rates among the elderly have increased from 15 to 65 percent, there has been no commensurate decrease in hospital admissions or all-cause mortality. Further, only about 10 percent of winter-time deaths in the United States are attributable to influenza, thus to suggest that the vaccine can reduce 50 percent of deaths from all causes is implausible in our opinion." Dr. Eurich and colleagues hypothesized that if the healthy-user effect was responsible for the mortality benefit associated with influenza vaccination seen in observational studies, there should also be a significant mortality benefit present during the "off-season". To determine whether the observed mortality benefits were actually an effect of the flu vaccine, therefore, they analyzed clinical data from records of all six hospitals in the Capital Health region in Alberta. In total, they analyzed data from 704 patients 65 years of age and older who were admitted to the hospital for community-acquired pneumonia during non-flu season, half of whom had been vaccinated, and half of whom had not. Each vaccinated patient was matched to a non- vaccinated patient with similar demographics, medical conditions, functional status, smoking status and current prescription medications. In examining in-hospital mortality, they found that 12 percent of the patients died overall, with a median length of stay of approximately eight days. While analysis with a model similar to that employed by past observational studies indeed showed that patients who were vaccinated were about half as likely to die as unvaccinated patients, a finding consistent with other studies, they found a striking difference after adjusting for detailed clinical information, such as the need for an advanced directive, pneumococcal immunizations, socioeconomic status, as well as sex, smoking, functional status and severity of disease. Controlling for those variables reduced the relative risk of death to a statistically non-significant 19 percent. Further analyses that included more than 3,400 patients from the same cohort did not significantly alter the relative risk. The researchers concluded that there was a difficult to capture healthy-user effect among vaccinated patients. "The healthy-user effect is seen in what doctors often refer to as their 'good' patients— patients who are well-informed about their health, who exercise regularly, do not smoke or have quit, drink only in moderation, watch what they eat, come in regularly for health maintenance visits and disease screenings, take their medications exactly as prescribed— and quite religiously get vaccinated each year so as to stay healthy. Such attributes are almost impossible to capture in large scale studies using administrative databases," said principal investigator Sumit Majumdar, M.D., M.P.H., associate professor in the Faculty of Medicine & Dentistry at the University of Alberta. The finding has broad implications: For patients: People with chronic diseases such as chronic respiratory diseases such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, immuno- compromised patients, healthcare workers, family members or friends who take care of elderly patients and others with greater exposure or susceptibility to the influenza virus should still be vaccinated. "But you also need to take care of yourself. Everyone can reduce their risk by taking simple precautions," says Dr. Majumdar. "Wash your hands, avoid sick kids and hospitals during flu season, consider antiviral agents for prophylaxis and tell your doctor as soon as you feel unwell because there is still a chance to decrease symptoms and prevent hospitalization if you get sick— because flu vaccine is not as effective as people have been thinking it is." For vaccine developers: Previously reported mortality reductions are clearly inflated and erroneous–this may have stifled efforts at developing newer and better vaccines especially for use in the elderly. For policy makers: Efforts directed at "improving quality of care" are better directed at where the evidence is, such as hand-washing, vaccinating children and vaccinating healthcare workers. Finally, Dr. Majumder said, the findings are a reminder to researchers that "the healthy-user effect is everywhere you don't want it to be." The results will appear in the first > On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. > Seeing is believing. Agreed. I see your posts and believe that you are one of most ignorant people I have ever encountered. On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 7:31 pm, "JohnSmith" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote in message > >news:LcqdnWPN4sd8CErXnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d@bt.com... > > > She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating > > > neurological disease. > > >She doesn't know what else it could be > > a common effect in dumb people. > > > She says 10 days after getting a seasonal flu shot at a Reston grocery > > > store in August, and on her second wedding anniversary, she got sick. > > > First, she came down with flu like symptoms, then convulsions and blacking > > > out. > > sore throat? headache? NO, she barfed. not a h1n1 symptom DUMBASS > > > She believes her seasonal flu shot triggered it. > > > Desiree says, "Nothing else explains such a fast moving neurological > > > damage. > > except for dystonia > > > The medical hospitals ruled out everything, CAT scans normal, blood > > > normal, MRI normal. The only thing that explains it is the shot caused the > > > neurologic damage." > > Not at all, this is a dumb uneducated girl talking. > > > She says it is a strange disorder where muscles work against each other. > > She > > > Desiree's husband, Brendan, says, "It gets worse everyday. It's > > > heartbreaking to see." > > > Desiree says the disease is irreversible. Once she loses an ability it > > > doesn't come back. She says there are only three ways you can get dystonia > > > as an adult and they include head trauma, drug use, and poisoning. > > > While the Centers for Disease Control cannot comment directly on this > > > case, they say they have no knowledge of a link between the seasonal flu > > > shot and dystonia. > > WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking. > > I new it was horseshit! lol > It appears that while Ms Jennings sincerely believes that she is a > victim of a adverse vaccine reaction, she is much more likely [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but not the fact that they refer to her case as an example of > Psychogenic Dystonia. > http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner... > On the October 16, 2009, Fox News show, "The O'Reilly Factor", Dr. > Leigh Vinocur from the University of Maryland Medical System offered [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > using Ms. Jennings' case to teach neurology residents about > psychogenic dystonia. > Dystonia is a neurological disorder where twitches and other > repetitive, involuntary reactions occur. Normally, these repetitive > actions do not let up. In the interview videos, Ms. Jennings' symptoms > subside at times. According to Dr. Vinocur, neurologists saw the video > and were convinced it was psychogenic. > Psychogenic disorders do not mean that a person is faking their > symptoms. Rather, it means that the person truly believes that the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Psychotherapy or some medications to treat the mental issues can help > deal with psychogenic disorders. > Another important detail in Ms. Jennings' story is that she acquired > flu from the flu vaccine. This is a scientific impossiblity. The flu [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > vaccine. Furthermore, the Food and Drug Administration did not find > anything wrong or different about the lot of vaccine used. Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. Seeing is believing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/FluVaccinesDoNotWorkforKidsorth... http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_70107.html Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080829091323.htm Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET The Canadian Press There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests. In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom Jefferson argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be "urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths. Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET The Canadian Press There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests. In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom Jefferson argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be "urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths. Flu Shot Season - Think twice before you shoot! I'd like to repeat the Flu/Alzheimer's connection that so many of you have asked about. According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. I asked Dr. Fudenberg why this was so and he said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and some childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? Notes: Recorded from Dr. Fudenberg's speech at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission. Alzheimer's to quadruple statement is from John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998. Dr. Fudenberg's web address is www.nitrf.org. Interesting info on treating autism on the site. Randall Neustaedter OMD author of The Vaccine Guide says this: The flu vaccine gets the most-useless-vaccine-of-all-time award. Now the CDC is recommending the vaccine for children under two years old and all adults over 50. Don't fall for it. Flu Facts * Flu vaccine manufacturers are notoriously inaccurate at predicting the appropriate viruses to use in an individual year's vaccine, rendering the vaccine ineffective. * Flu vaccine is relatively ineffective in those patients most at risk of flu complications. * The vaccine has caused GBS in recipients during several different flu seasons. * Those most at risk of flu complications probably share a higher risk of adverse reactions to the flu vaccine as well. Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p-Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p- Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p- Isooctylphenyl Ether, Hemaggluttinin. Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices MONDAY, Oct. 6 (HealthDay News) -- Over the past two flu seasons, vaccinating children five and younger did not reduce the number of child hospitalizations or doctor's visits linked to influenza, according to results of a new study. Given the poor match between the flu vaccine and circulating strains during the last two years, "this finding is not surprising," said Dr. Robert Belshe, a professor of medicine and pediatrics and director of the Center for Vaccine Development at the Saint Louis University Medical Center, who was not involved in the study. "We know that the inactivated vaccine -- the flu shot -- doesn't work real well in children, particularly when the virus has evolved and drifted away from the type that is put in the vaccine," he said. Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080829091323.htm Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows ScienceDaily (Aug. 31, 2008) — The widely-held perception that the influenza vaccination reduces overall mortality risk in the elderly does not withstand careful scrutiny, according to researchers in Alberta. The vaccine does confer protection against specific strains of influenza, but its overall benefit appears to have been exaggerated by a number of observational studies that found a very large reduction in all-cause mortality among elderly patients who had been vaccinated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See also: Health & Medicine Today's Healthcare Vaccines Influenza Diseases and Conditions Bird Flu Cold and Flu Reference Flu vaccine Vaccination MMR vaccine Chickenpox The study included more than 700 matched elderly subjects, half of whom had taken the vaccine and half of whom had not. After controlling for a wealth of variables that were largely not considered or simply not available in previous studies that reported the mortality benefit, the researchers concluded that any such benefit "if present at all, was very small and statistically non-significant and may simply be a healthy-user artifact that they were unable to identify." "While such a reduction in all-cause mortality would have been impressive, these mortality benefits are likely implausible. Previous studies were likely measuring a benefit not directly attributable to the vaccine itself, but something specific to the individuals who were vaccinated—a healthy-user benefit or frailty bias," said Dean T. Eurich,Ph.D. clinical epidemiologist and assistant professor at the School of Public Health at the University of Alberta. "Over the last two decades in the United Sates, even while vaccination rates among the elderly have increased from 15 to 65 percent, there has been no commensurate decrease in hospital admissions or all-cause mortality. Further, only about 10 percent of winter-time deaths in the United States are attributable to influenza, thus to suggest that the vaccine can reduce 50 percent of deaths from all causes is implausible in our opinion." Dr. Eurich and colleagues hypothesized that if the healthy-user effect was responsible for the mortality benefit associated with influenza vaccination seen in observational studies, there should also be a significant mortality benefit present during the "off-season". To determine whether the observed mortality benefits were actually an effect of the flu vaccine, therefore, they analyzed clinical data from records of all six hospitals in the Capital Health region in Alberta. In total, they analyzed data from 704 patients 65 years of age and older who were admitted to the hospital for community-acquired pneumonia during non-flu season, half of whom had been vaccinated, and half of whom had not. Each vaccinated patient was matched to a non- vaccinated patient with similar demographics, medical conditions, functional status, smoking status and current prescription medications. In examining in-hospital mortality, they found that 12 percent of the patients died overall, with a median length of stay of approximately eight days. While analysis with a model similar to that employed by past observational studies indeed showed that patients who were vaccinated were about half as likely to die as unvaccinated patients, a finding consistent with other studies, they found a striking difference after adjusting for detailed clinical information, such as the need for an advanced directive, pneumococcal immunizations, socioeconomic status, as well as sex, smoking, functional status and severity of disease. Controlling for those variables reduced the relative risk of death to a statistically non-significant 19 percent. Further analyses that included more than 3,400 patients from the same cohort did not significantly alter the relative risk. The researchers concluded that there was a difficult to capture healthy-user effect among vaccinated patients. "The healthy-user effect is seen in what doctors often refer to as their 'good' patients— patients who are well-informed about their health, who exercise regularly, do not smoke or have quit, drink only in moderation, watch what they eat, come in regularly for health maintenance visits and disease screenings, take their medications exactly as prescribed— and quite religiously get vaccinated each year so as to stay healthy. Such attributes are almost impossible to capture in large scale studies using administrative databases," said principal investigator Sumit Majumdar, M.D., M.P.H., associate professor in the Faculty of Medicine & Dentistry at the University of Alberta. The finding has broad implications: For patients: People with chronic diseases such as chronic respiratory diseases such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, immuno- compromised patients, healthcare workers, family members or friends who take care of elderly patients and others with greater exposure or susceptibility to the influenza virus should still be vaccinated. "But you also need to take care of yourself. Everyone can reduce their risk by taking simple precautions," says Dr. Majumdar. "Wash your hands, avoid sick kids and hospitals during flu season, consider antiviral agents for prophylaxis and tell your doctor as soon as you feel unwell because there is still a chance to decrease symptoms and prevent hospitalization if you get sick— because flu vaccine is not as effective as people have been thinking it is." For vaccine developers: Previously reported mortality reductions are clearly inflated and erroneous–this may have stifled efforts at developing newer and better vaccines especially for use in the elderly. For policy makers: Efforts directed at "improving quality of care" are better directed at where the evidence is, such as hand-washing, vaccinating children and vaccinating healthcare workers. Finally, Dr. Majumder said, the findings are a reminder to researchers that "the healthy-user effect is everywhere you don't want it to be." The results will appear in the first > On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. > Seeing is believing. Like I said, you have to know how to interpret what you are seeing. And, anyway, merely seeing something does not prove causality. All of you anti-vacs love to cite VAERS to prove causality, when it is not designed for that. I went a-hunting and found this: This VAERS report that may be Desiree Jennings: http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner~y2009m11d4 -Records-show-case-of-dystonia-is-psychogenic-and-not-related-to-flu-vaccine Sore throat, nasal congestions, followed by fever, body aches, chills, and headache.10/8/08 Medical records received, Dates of Service 10/2-10/3/09. Diagnosis: Weakness. Pt. experienced sore throat, congestion, body aches, chills, headache, fatigue and fever 3 days after receiving the influenza vaccine. The fatigue continued for almost 2 weeks during which the patient continued to work, but on 9/12/09 she presented to the ED with generalized weakness, lightheadedness and an episode of syncopy that was accompanied by generalized convulsions. Admitted to the hospital from 9/12-9/14/09. CK and LFT's were noted to be significantly elevated. Returned to work on 9/17/09 and continued to experience nausea and syncope with all over trembling and was readmitted to the hospital overnight. On 9/21 her PCP told her she had a positive ANA and lupus. Pt. began experiencing chest pain, for which steroids were prescribed. She saw an Infectious Disease MD on 9/22 and had a lumbar puncture which was normal. Pt. began experiencing difficulty walking, chills, sweats, tremors and vivid dreams with difficulty sleeping. She began having headaches described as a ""cold spot"" on the back of her head, had subsequently developed a stutter, but was able to speak clearly if she whispered. Her symptoms persisted and progressed to erratic movements of the toe, intermittent uncontrolled blinking, difficulty focusing, uncontrolled shaking, cold feet and sharp pains in the legs. Upon this admission the plan was to rule out GBS, MS, malignancy, Lyme and MG. Pt. noted to have dystonia, speech dysfunction, gait dysfunction, anxiety, SOB, photophobia, tinnitus in the left ear, and increase in appetite, a 2 lb. weight loss. It was also noted that the symptoms were worsened by warm water, especially at the knees. The admitting neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. 10/13/09 Medical records received from dates 10/2/09-10/4/09 Presented to for eval of p (REDACTED)" (United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) 1990 - last week, CDC WONDER On-line Database Accessed at http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html on Nov 4, 2009 10:20:23 AM) -x-x-x-x-x-x-x Cue the anti-vacs to discount this in some manner. PSYCHOGENIC DYSTONIA diagnosed by the treating doctors. Ummm, I think to be honest, we need a second or third diagnosis. It would seem reasonable considering the possible implications of this case. By at least one pro vacer and one less than pro. Where is House when we need him? On Nov 2, 11:48 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. > Seeing is believing. Like I said, you have to know how to interpret what you are seeing. And, anyway, merely seeing something does not prove causality. All of you anti-vacs love to cite VAERS to prove causality, when it is not designed for that. I went a-hunting and found this: This VAERS report that may be Desiree Jennings: http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner~y2009m11d4 -Records-show-case-of-dystonia-is-psychogenic-and-not-related-to-flu-vaccine Sore throat, nasal congestions, followed by fever, body aches, chills, and headache.10/8/08 Medical records received, Dates of Service 10/2-10/3/09. Diagnosis: Weakness. Pt. experienced sore throat, congestion, body aches, chills, headache, fatigue and fever 3 days after receiving the influenza vaccine. The fatigue continued for almost 2 weeks during which the patient continued to work, but on 9/12/09 she presented to the ED with generalized weakness, lightheadedness and an episode of syncopy that was accompanied by generalized convulsions. Admitted to the hospital from 9/12-9/14/09. CK and LFT's were noted to be significantly elevated. Returned to work on 9/17/09 and continued to experience nausea and syncope with all over trembling and was readmitted to the hospital overnight. On 9/21 her PCP told her she had a positive ANA and lupus. Pt. began experiencing chest pain, for which steroids were prescribed. She saw an Infectious Disease MD on 9/22 and had a lumbar puncture which was normal. Pt. began experiencing difficulty walking, chills, sweats, tremors and vivid dreams with difficulty sleeping. She began having headaches described as a ""cold spot"" on the back of her head, had subsequently developed a stutter, but was able to speak clearly if she whispered. Her symptoms persisted and progressed to erratic movements of the toe, intermittent uncontrolled blinking, difficulty focusing, uncontrolled shaking, cold feet and sharp pains in the legs. Upon this admission the plan was to rule out GBS, MS, malignancy, Lyme and MG. Pt. noted to have dystonia, speech dysfunction, gait dysfunction, anxiety, SOB, photophobia, tinnitus in the left ear, and increase in appetite, a 2 lb. weight loss. It was also noted that the symptoms were worsened by warm water, especially at the knees. The admitting neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. 10/13/09 Medical records received from dates 10/2/09-10/4/09 Presented to for eval of p (REDACTED)" (United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) 1990 - last week, CDC WONDER On-line Database Accessed at http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html on Nov 4, 2009 10:20:23 AM) -x-x-x-x-x-x-x Cue the anti-vacs to discount this in some manner. PSYCHOGENIC DYSTONIA diagnosed by the treating doctors. > Ummm, I think to be honest, we need a second or third diagnosis. It would > seem reasonable considering the possible implications of this case. By at > least one pro vacer and one less than pro. Where is House when we need him? Read the information carefully, The diagnosis was made by the doctors treting her, not by anyone else. The report says: "The admitting > neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the > symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. " The admitting neurologist, the one who was seeing and believing, made the diagnosis. And, the other article I posted, from Dr. Novella, is from an academic neurologist who practices at Yale. Academic physicians are salaried, and do not make an extra dime when they see patients. "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:8258b567-c765-4020-bed3-49ac37a6de48@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 2, 11:48 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Exactly! Needs be diagnosis by doctors NOT involved in the case. Just wanting to help everyone to be honest. On Nov 4, 7:58 pm, "t" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ummm, I think to be honest, we need a second or third diagnosis. It would > seem reasonable considering the possible implications of this case. By at > least one pro vacer and one less than pro. Where is House when we need > him? Read the information carefully, The diagnosis was made by the doctors treting her, not by anyone else. The report says: "The admitting > neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the > symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. " The admitting neurologist, the one who was seeing and believing, made the diagnosis. And, the other article I posted, from Dr. Novella, is from an academic neurologist who practices at Yale. Academic physicians are salaried, and do not make an extra dime when they see patients. "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:8258b567-c765-4020-bed3-49ac37a6de48@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com... > [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > Exactly! Needs be diagnosis by doctors NOT involved in the case. Just > wanting to help everyone to be honest. Steve Novella,et al, is not involved in the case and he concurs. There is only one medical diagnosis, i.e. psychogenic dystonia. BTW, I watched the YouBOOB and, have been around people with physiological Dystonia. As Jan said, seeing is believing. The people with physiological Dystonia do not appear to have the same problems as the woman in the video does. Of course, I am not a medical doctor, and I do not play one on Usenet. These are just my lay observations, but they are consistent with her doctor, and the other doctors who reviewed the video. "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:3f63256e-f63e-4cf1-84c8-df5e0b1aad24@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 4, 7:58 pm, "t" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 169 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > Of course not. With their vested interests and lies. > Seeing is believing. You have to know how to interpret what you see. Psychogenic Dystonia http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1152 Interpret this: ii!ii "Mark Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9925cc2b-6cc3-4cc7-b0ae Mark, why do you wish death on so many people? > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:9925cc2b-6cc3-4cc7-b0ae > Mark, why do you wish death on so many people? Strawman. I wish health for all, even you. Tikkun Olam > > She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating > > neurological disease. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking. > I new it was horseshit! lol Not only that, but dystonia is genetic: http://www.dystonia-foundation.org/pages/faq_causes/104.php >> She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating >> neurological disease. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking. > I new it was horseshit! lol CDC says they have no evedence. That means that they do not KNOW that it did not. In fact, they know very little about what this stuff can do / cause. Almost no testing. Unlike you who believes in horseshit. LOL!! >>> She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating >>> neurological disease. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > CDC says they have no evedence. That means that they do not KNOW that it >did not. There is no evidence that leprechauns do NOT exist either. But I guess you have been told before there is a problem with proving a negative. > In fact, they know very little about what this stuff can do / >cause. Almost no testing. Flu shots have been around for a very long time tools. They have never ever caused distonia. > Unlike you who believes in horseshit. LOL!! Again, how typical that you think a story about a woman suffering from dystonia is LOL. THIS flu shot has not been around for a very long time. This one is different from the others in many ways that have not been reasonably tested. But since you want to believe, by all means please do get it. We can discuss it after a while and see if you have any , ummm, unusual experinces. I'm all for volunteers, so step right up. >>>> She's been diagnosed with dystonia, an extremely rare and debilitating >>>> neurological disease. [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Again, how typical that you think a story about a woman suffering from > dystonia is LOL. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 For those interested in Real Medical information: http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1152 The Dystonia Flu-Shot Case Published by Steven Novella under Neuroscience, Science and Medicine, Robert E. Bartholomew is a social scientist who specializes in mass delusions. He describes them here, in an article he wrote for the NESS, but also in a longer article here for the Skeptical Inquirer and in his several books. About mass delusions he writes: A collective delusion is the term most commonly used by social scientists to describe the relatively spontaneous spread of false beliefs that do not occur in an organized, institutionalized or ritualistic fashion. Today, we live in a connected virtual community, and YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and blogs, in addition to traditional media, are the medium through which community panic and delusions spread. At this time there are two slow panics spreading through the community – fear of the H1N1 “swine” flu pandemic, and fear of the vaccine to prevent H1N1 flu. Regarding the pandemic itself – this is a real threat, it is just not known at this time how severe it will turn out to be. So far it is looking like another seasonal flu in severity, but with some different features, such as a greater tendency to severely affect otherwise healthy individuals. The panic over the vaccine, however, is entirely manufactured, primarily by dedicated conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccinationists, and then aided by irresponsible media. There have been two stories in particular about alleged severe reactions following vaccines recently, one dealing with the HPV vaccine and the recent cased of what is being called dystonia following the seasonal flu vaccine. The young girl who died within hours of getting the HPV vaccine was found to have a heart defect, and her death had nothing to do with the vaccine, so that story was rather short-lived. The new case making the rounds, however, appears to have some legs. It is getting international news attention, and I am being flooded with e- mail requests to analyze the case. This is the story of Desiree Jennings, who is a 28 year old cheerleader who was apparently healthy until August when she received the seasonal flu vaccine. Ten days later she developed a severe respiratory illness, probably the flu, requiring hospitalization. She then developed an apparent neurological reaction in which she has difficulty speaking and walking, with involuntary muscle contractions and contortions. Her symptoms (including speech) are relieved, however, by walking backwards or by running. She also seems to have attacks of muscle contortions. News reports are presenting her story as a rare vaccine reaction. Take a look at the video of her movements on this news report also. This case, of course, has been immediately picked up by the anti- vaccine crowd. Generation Rescue, Jenny McCarthy’s anti-vaccine organization, wasted no time in exploiting this poor girl for their own agenda. She is now the latest poster child in the war against vaccines. The media is largely covered in fail over their reporting of this case. They failed to ask basic journalistic questions – was the illness Jennings suffered from due to the vaccine, was it confirmed as the flu, and was it the strain from the vaccine, was the incubation period compatible with a vaccine-induced flu, did she get the live- virus version of the vaccine, does she really have dystonia, has that diagnosis been verified, are their other possibilities, and what is the plausibility that it was caused by the vaccine? None of these basic questions are addressed in the news reports – instead we are given an emotional report of a “one in a million” (a figure apparently pulled out of someone’s butt) vaccine reaction. Her episodes are called “seizures” when they are almost certainly not seizures. Her condition has also been called permanent and irreversible – without any justification. Normally I try to refrain from making medical diagnoses in public cases – but Jennings has now inserted herself in to the anti-vaccine movement, and is using her own case to “warn about the dangers of vaccines.” To mitigate the damage to public health brought about by misinformation in this case, I think it is necessary to provide some expert opinion. The movements and symptoms that Ms. Jennings displays on the public videos I have seen (linked to above) are not compatible with the diagnosis of dystonia, or any other movement disorder. Dystonia is one type of involuntary contraction of muscles. It can be reduced or exacerbated by certain movements or positions, and there are “task specific” dystonia, such as writer’s cramp, that come out only with certain activity. Jennings does not display the type of movements that are consistent with dystonia. Her speech and movement are, however, very suggestive of a psychogenic disorder. This also seems to be the consensus opinion of experts who have viewed this case. The Dystonia Medical Research Foundation had this to say about the case: Because of the concern of individuals with dystonia as to whether or not to get a flu shot because of this reported case, we have sought the opinion of dystonia experts on this case. Based on the footage that has been shared with the public, it is their unanimous consensus that this case does not appear to be dystonia. The one news report that I saw that actually consulted an expert for their opinion was Fox News. Leigh Vinocur, and emergency room physician, was interviewed and relayed the opinion that the neurologists she consulted were of the opinion that Jennings’ symptoms were consistent with a psychogenic disorder. In other words – her symptoms are not neurological, they are psychological. This does not mean she has any insight or voluntary control over her symptoms – they are involuntary and “real” – just not neurological in origin. Symptoms such as this are not uncommon reactions to emotional stress in some individuals. Given the evidence presented, I think this is a reasonable opinion. Dr. Vinocur also points out that there are no reported cases of true dystonia resulting from the flu vaccine – this is not a known or established vaccine reaction. Here is another interview on Fox with a movement disorder specialist, Dr. Stephen Grill, who concurs that (based upon the video, and not personal examination) Ms. Jennings does not have true dystonia but psychogenic dystonia. It is therefore highly unlikely that whatever Jennings is suffering from now had anything to do with the flu vaccine she received in August. Unfortunately, this is not stopping irresponsible news coverage or exploitation by anti-vaccinationists. Further, Jennings is now in the hands of the Generation Rescue anti-vaccine quacks. I predict that they will be able to “cure” her, because psychogenic disorders can and do spontaneously resolve. They will then claim victory for their quackery in curing a (non-existent) vaccine injury. In addition to the public harm, Ms. Jennings herself is likely to be harmed by the media attention her case is garnering. She likely could benefit from proper medical attention of her condition. But now she is publicly invested in her disorder, and is likely to accept care from those with their own anti-vaccine agenda. It is difficult enough dealing with psychogenic disorders without international public attention and controversy. The medical community is always careful to point out that there are very rare reactions to vaccines. No one is claiming that they are 100% safe – no medical intervention is. But severe reactions are very rare. Meanwhile, about 36,000 people die each year in the US alone from the seasonal flu. That figure is likely to be higher this year, as seasonal strains are combined with the H1N1 strain to form a particularly bad flu season. We are fortunate that there are vaccines both for the seasonal flu and the H1N1 flu, which is particularly well targeted because we know the strain. Other measures for minimizing spread of the flu are, as always, also important – wash your hands, stay home if you are ill, and avoid contact with those with respiratory symptoms. But the vaccines are likely to significantly reduce the spread and severity of the flu. And yet, fear-mongering and misinformation, such as with the Jennings case, are scaring people away from the vaccines, without good cause. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 > > For those interested in Real Medical information: http://www.mixx.com/videos/8726173/youtube_jerry_emmons_puyallup_man_paralyzed_a fter_routine_vaccination Jerry Emmons Puyallup man paralyzed after routine vaccination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcUQXNIMEk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxxYIeE0_p0&feature=related > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 > > > For those interested in Real Medical information: I did not write what you claimed I did. Thus, you are a liar. Here is a link to factual information, which is well documented. Not something from Stoopid's YouBOOB. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 > > > For those interested in Real Medical information: http://www.mixx.com/videos/8726173/youtube_jerry_emmons_puyallup_man_... Jerry Emmons Puyallup man paralyzed after routine vaccination > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcUQXNIMEk > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Show quoted text - "Mark Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b109b6f0-c9f5-4336-a005-58af4e54cd Mark, why do you want people to suffer and die from drugs? > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:b109b6f0-c9f5-4336-a005-58af4e54cd Mark, why do you want people to > suffer and die from drugs? Strawman. As for suffering, it is obvious that you are projecting your own. You were born stupid. Get over it. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOrohPEDS8 |
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