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A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 14:07 GMT
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Kathy Freston
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Posted: September 24, 2009 08:34 AM

A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
Cure For Cancer, Health, Kathy Freston, Nutrition, Plant-Based Diet,
Preventative Medicine, T. Colin Campbell, Living News

I have been working closely recently with a few extraordinary nutritional researchers,
and I find that the information they have compiled is quite eye opening. Interestingly,
what these highly esteemed doctors are saying is just beginning to be understood and
accepted, perhaps because what they are saying does not conveniently fit in with or
support the multi-billion dollar food industries that profit from our "not knowing".
One thing is for sure: we are getting sicker and more obese than our health care system
can handle, and the conventional methods of dealing with disease often have harmful
side effects and are ineffective for some patients.

As it is now, one out of every two of us will get cancer or heart disease and die from it -
an ugly and painful death as anyone who has witnessed it can attest. And starting in the
year 2000, one out of every three children who are born after that year will develop
diabetes--a disease that for most sufferers (those with Type 2 diabetes) is largely
preventable with lifestyle changes. This is a rapidly emerging crisis, the seriousness of
which I'm not sure we have yet recognized. The good news is, the means to prevent
and heal disease seems to be right in front of us; it's in our food. Quite frankly, our
food choices can either kill us - which mounting studies say that they are, or they can
lift us right out of the disease process and into soaring health.

In the next few months, I will share a series of interviews I've conducted with the
preeminent doctors and nutritional researchers in the fields of their respective expertise.
And here it is straight out: they are all saying the same thing in different ways and
through multiple and varying studies: animal protein seems to greatly contribute to
diseases of nearly every type; and a plant-based diet is not only good for our health,
but it's also curative of the very serious diseases we face .

Cancer

On the subject of cancer, I've asked Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Professor Emeritus of
Cornell University and author of the groundbreaking The China Study to explain how
cancer happens and what we can do to prevent and reverse it. Dr. Campbell's work
is regarded by many as the definitive epidemiological examination of the relationship
between diet and disease. He has received more than 70 grant years of peer-
reviewed research funding, much of which was funded by the U.S. National Institutes
of Health (NIH), and he has authored more than 300 research papers. He grew up
on a dairy farm believing in the great health value of animal protein in the American
diet and set out in his career to investigate how to produce more and better animal
protein. Troublesome to his preconceived hypothesis of the goodness of dairy,
Dr. Campbell kept running up against results that consistently proved an emerging
and comprehensive truth: that animal protein is disastrous to human health.

Through a variety of experimental study designs, epidemiological evidence, along
with observation of real life conditions which had rational biological explanation,
Dr. Campbell has made a direct and powerful correlation between cancer (and
other diseases and illnesses) and animal protein. Following is a conversation I had
with him so that I could better understand the association.

KF: What happens in the body when cancer develops? What is the actual process?

TCC: Cancer generally develops over a long period of time, divided into 3 stages,
initiation, promotion and progression.

Initiation occurs when chemicals or other agents attack the genes of normal cells to
produce genetically modified cells capable of eventually causing cancer. The body
generally repairs most such damage but if the cell reproduces itself before it is
repaired, its new (daughter) cell retains this genetic damage. This process may occur
within minutes and, to some extent, is thought to be occurring most of the time in
most of our tissues.

Promotion occurs when the initiated cells continue to replicate themselves and grow
into cell masses that eventually will be diagnosed. This is a long growth phase
occurring over months or years and is known to be reversible.

Progression occurs when the growing cancer masses invade neighboring tissues
and/or break away from the tissue of origin (metastasis) and travel to distant tissues
when they are capable of growing independently at which point they are considered
to be malignant.

KF: Why do some people get cancer, and other don't? What percentage is genetic,
and what percentage has to do with diet?

TCC: Although the initiated cells are not considered to be reversible, the cells growing
through the promotion stage are usually considered to be reversible, a very exciting
concept. This is the stage that especially responds to nutritional factors. For example,
the nutrients from animal based foods, especially the protein, promote the development
of the cancer whereas the nutrients from plant-based foods, especially the antioxidants,
reverse the promotion stage. This is a very promising observation because cancer
proceeds forward or backward as a function of the balance of promoting and anti-
promoting factors found in the diet, thus consuming anti-promoting plant-based foods
tend to keep the cancer from going forward, perhaps even reversing the promotion.
The difference between individuals is almost entirely related to their diet and lifestyle
practices.

Although all cancer and other diseases begin with genes, this is not the reason
whether or not the disease actually appears. If people do the right thing during the
promotion stage, perhaps even during the progression stage, cancer will not appear
and if it does, might even be resolved. Most estimates suggest that not more than
2-3 percent of cancers are due entirely to genes; almost all the rest is due to diet
and lifestyle factors. Consuming plant based foods offers the best hope of avoiding
cancer, perhaps even reversing cancer once it is diagnosed. Believing that cancer is
attributed to genes is a fatalistic idea but believing that cancer can be controlled by
nutrition is a far more hopeful idea.

KF: You said that initially something attacks the genes, chemicals or other agents;
like what?

TCC: Cancer, like every other biological event--good or bad--begins with genes.
In the case of cancer, gene(s) that give rise to cancer either may be present when
we are born or, during our lifetimes, normal genes may be converted into cancer
genes by certain highly reactive chemicals (i.e., carcinogens).

Consider 'cancer genes' as seeds that grow into tumor masses only if they are 'fed'.
The 'feeding' comes from wrongful nutrition. It's like growing a lawn. We plant seeds
but they don't grow into grass (or weeds) unless they are provided water, sunlight
and nutrients. So it is with cancer. In reality, we are planting seeds all of our lifetime
although some may be present at birth, not only for cancer but also for other events
as well. But this mostly does not matter unless we 'nourish' their growth.

The chemicals that create these cancer genes are called 'carcinogens'. Most
carcinogens of years past have been those that attack normal genes to give cancer
genes. These are initiating carcinogens, or initiators. But more recently, carcinogens
also may be those that promote cancer growth. They are promoting carcinogens, or
promoters.

Our work showed that casein is the most relevant cancer promoter ever discovered.

Aside from chemicals initiating or promoting cancer, other agents such as cosmic rays
(energetic particles) from the sun or from the outer reaches of space may impact our
genes to cause them to change (i.e., mutate) so that they could give rise to cancer
'seeds'. The most important point to consider is that we cannot do much about
preventing initiation but we can do a lot about preventing promotion. The initiating
idea is fatalistic and outside of our control but the promotion idea is hopeful because
we can change our exposure to promoting agents and reverse the cancer process,
thus is within our control.

KF: What exactly is so bad about animal protein?

TCC: I don't choose the word "exactly" because it suggests something very specific.
Rather, casein causes a broad spectrum of adverse effects.

Among other fundamental effects, it makes the body more acidic, alters the mix of
hormones and modifies important enzyme activities, each of which can cause a broad
array of more specific effects. One of these effects is its ability to promote cancer
growth (by operating on key enzyme systems, by increasing hormone growth factors
and by modifying the tissue acidity). Another is its ability to increase blood cholesterol
(by modifying enzyme activities) and to enhance atherogenesis, which is the early stage
of cardiovascular disease.

And finally, although these are casein-specific effects, it should be noted that other
animal-based proteins are likely to have the same effect as casein.

KF: Ok, so I am clear that it's wise to avoid casein, which is intrinsic in dairy (milk and
cheese), but how is other animal protein, such as chicken, steak, or pork, implicated in
the cause and growth of cancer?

TCC: I would first say that casein is not just "intrinsic" but IS THE MAIN PROTEIN
OF COW MILK, REPRESENTING ABOUT 87% OF THE MILK PROTEIN.

The biochemical systems which underlie the adverse effects of casein are also common
to other animal-based proteins. Also, the amino acid composition of casein, which is
the characteristic primarily responsible for its property, is similar to most other animal-
based proteins. They all have what we call high 'biological value', in comparison, for
example, with plant-based proteins, which is why animal protein promotes cancer
growth and plant protein doesn't.

KF: Isn't anything in moderation ok, as long as we don't overdo it?

TCC: I rather like the expression told by my friend, Caldwell Esselstyn, Jr., MD, the
Cleveland Clinic surgeon who reversed heart disease and who says, "Moderation kills!"
I prefer to go the whole way, not because we have fool-proof evidence showing that
100% is better than, say, 95% for every single person for every single condition but
that it is easier to avoid straying off on an excursion that too often becomes a slippery
slope back to our old ways. Moreover, going the whole way allows us to adapt to new
unrealized tastes and to rid ourselves of some old addictions. And finally, moderation
often means very different things for different people.

KF: Are you saying that if one changes their diet from animal based protein to plant-
based protein that the disease process of cancer can be halted and reversed?

TCC: Yes, this is what our experimental research shows. I also have become aware of
many anecdotal claims by people who have said that their switch to a plant-based diet
stopped even reversed (cured?) their disease. One study on melanoma has been
published in the peer-reviewed literature that shows convincing evidence that cancer
progression is substantially halted with this diet.

KF: How long does it take to see changes?

TCC: It is not clear because carefully designed research in humans has not been done.
However, we demonstrated and published findings showing that experimental
progression of disease is at least suspended, even reversed, when tumors are clearly
present.

KF: Consider a person who has been eating poorly his whole life; is there still hope
that a dietary change can make a big difference? Or is everything already in motion?

TCC: Yes, a variety of evidence shows that cancers and non-cancers alike can be
stopped even after consuming a poor diet earlier in life. This effect is equivalent to
treatment, a very exciting concept.

KF: This is sounding like it's a cure for cancer; is that the case?
TCC: Yes. The problem in this area of medicine is that traditional doctors are so
focused on the use of targeted therapies (chemo, surgery, radiation) that they refuse
to even acknowledge the use of therapies like nutrition and are loathe to even want
to do proper research in this area. So, in spite of the considerable evidence--
theoretical and practical--to support a beneficial nutritional effect, every effort will
be made to discredit it. It's a self-serving motive.

KF: What else do you recommend one does to avoid, stop, or reverse cancer?

TCC: A good diet, when coupled with other health promoting activities like exercise,
adequate fresh air and sunlight, good water and sleep, will be more beneficial. The
whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

For help on how to lean into a plant based diet, check out my blog post here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/one-bite-at-a-time-a-begi_b_42211.html ;
and for recipes click here.
http://www.meatlessmonday.com/category/recipes-by-week/

For more information about diet and cancer, visit http://www.tcolincampbell.org/

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D. C. Sessions - 29 Sep 2009 15:02 GMT
> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

Therefore obligate herbivores (e.g. elk) don't get cancer.

Oh, wait ...

| The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
| chance that someone will see the light. |
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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 17:50 GMT
>> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet
>
> Therefore obligate herbivores (e.g. elk) don't get cancer.
>
> Oh, wait ...

For how long?  .....  

That is, were you going to show us some studies to look at .. ?
Martin - 29 Sep 2009 19:17 GMT
>>> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet
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>
>That is, were you going to show us some studies to look at .. ?

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Peter Bowditch - 29 Sep 2009 23:46 GMT
>> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet
>
>Therefore obligate herbivores (e.g. elk) don't get cancer.
>
>Oh, wait ...

And obligate carnivores like cats are extinct because they die from
cancer shortly after weaning and before they can reproduce.

Now, back to my cup of tea, ignoring the evidence that tannin, derived
from *plants!!!*, is a possible carcinogen.

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crisology - 03 Oct 2009 20:53 GMT
> In message <WDnwm.30177$j7.493...@news.indigo.ie>, O.pearl wrote:
>
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>
> Oh, wait ...

Where is a source for elk cancer rates compared to human cancer rates?
From the cursory research I've done on the topic, I find little
information on wild population cancer rates but the available evidence
I've read seems to indicate that cancer (among other acquired
diseases) is rare among wild animals (especially those not exposed to
human pollutions ie chromium, fluoride, etc.).

"This would appear to be the first report of an oligodendroglioma in a
deer."
Journal of Comparative Pathology Volume 138, Issue 1, January 2008,
Pages 59-62.

"This is the first report of intestinal adenocarcinoma in lions."
European Journal of Wildlife Research, Volume 54, Number 2, May 2008 ,
pp. 385-389(5)

etc..

The lion of course eats meat (and could have relatively less cancer)
but there is little doubt (or is there?) lions are better adapted to
digest meat.

While raw and cooked meat consumption provide different ways to
acquire cancer for humans (Meats can cause cancer by several routes,
the researchers noted. "For example, they are both sources of
saturated fat and iron, which have independently been associated with
carcinogenesis," U.S. National Cancer Institute Library of Science
journal PLoS Medicine. 2007.), meat consumption isn't the only way to
acquire cancer. Genetic predisposition may play a smaller role but a
role, nonetheless.

Pharm Res. 2008 Jul 15
"5-10% of all cancer cases can be attributed to genetic defects..The
evidence indicates that of all cancer-related deaths, almost 25-30%
are due to tobacco, as many as 30-35% are linked to diet, about 15-20%
are due to infections..cancer prevention requires smoking cessation,
increased ingestion of fruits and vegetables, moderate use of alcohol,
caloric restriction, exercise, avoidance of direct exposure to
sunlight, minimal meat consumption, etc.

It seems plant based diets help prevent cancer and there is some
evidence that it also cures cancer to varying degrees.

"Environment determines the risk of both prostate and breast cancer,
and this risk can vary > 10-fold... There is also species specificity,
because there is no risk for prostate cancer in any other aging mammal
except the dog. A study of evolution indicates that the prostate and
breast appeared at the same time 65 million years ago with the
development of mammals. All male mammals have a prostate; however, the
seminal vesicles are variable and are determined by the diet so that
species primarily eating meat do not have seminal vesicles. The
exception is the human, who has seminal vesicles and consumes meat,
although this is a recent dietary change. Human lineage departed from
other higher primates 8 million years ago. The closest existing
primate to humans is the bonobo (pigmy chimpanzee), which does not eat
meat but exists primarily on a high fruit and fresh vegetable diet.
Homo sapiens evolved only about 150,000 years ago, and only in the
last 10% of that time (10 to 15 thousand years ago) did humans and
dogs dramatically alter their diets. This is the time when humans
domesticated the dog, bred animals, grew crops, and cooked, processed,
and stored meats and vegetables. All current epidemiologic evidence
and suggestions for preventing prostate and breast cancer in humans
indicates that we should return to the original diets under which our
ancestors evolved. The recent development of the Western-type diet is
asociated with breast and prostate cancer througout the world. It is
believed that the exposure to and metabolism of estrogens, and the
dietary intake of phytoestrogens, combined with fat intake, obesity,
and burned food processing may all be related to hormonal
carcinogenesis and oxidative DNA damage. An explanatory model is
proposed. Urology 57 (Suppl 4A): 31-38. 2001. Elsevier Science Inc.
There has not been sufficient time for biological selection to evolve
a proper defense for human DNA against the insults perpetuated by the
modern Western diet. This may result in nutritional diseases such as
prostate and breast cancer. Both prostate cancer and breast cancer
primarily occur later in life, often after the optimum age for
reproduction, thus severely limiting the evolutionary selection
process against cancer. This medical dilemma appears to be enhanced by
the speed of technology that enhances the imbalance between the rapid
rate of changes in our food processing and dietary patterns, which far
exceeds the slower rate of evolution of adequate biological defenses.
The interplay of many dietary components, such as phytoestrogens, can
induce hormonal changes that may contribute to the carcinogenic
insults of our lifestyle on prostate and breast tissue. Insights into
the development of the concept presented here have been derived fro
mattempts to forumlate plausible biological explanations of the
following features and enigmantic phenomena observed in prostate and
breast oncology:
1. Species specificity of prostate cancer: A significant incidence of
spontaenous prostate cnacer is observed only in humans and the dog. Of
the thousands of other species of mammals with prostates, none that
age in zoos or captivity have a significant incidence of prostate
cancer that results in clinical diagnoses, metastasis, and death.
Except for the dog, prostate cancer is also absent or extremely rare
in all aging pets such as cats, hamsters, guinea pigs, and horses.
2. Tissue specificity of cancer: Prostate cancer is most common in
humans; however, there ar eother adjacent reproductive organs that
never present with cancers such as the vas deferens, epiddymis, and
bulbourethral gland, or even the seminal vesicles, where it is
extremely rare. In a given individual, all of these glands share
similar genetics, age, and environments but yet have vast differences
in their cancer rates. Neither genetics nor environment is sufficient
to cause bulbourethral, epididymal, or vas deferns cancer in a man. At
present, no molecular explanation is proposed to explain this
selectivity.
3. Geographical variations: Compared with the United States, the
incidence and age-adjusted rates of both breast and prostate cancer
can be >10-fold lower in Asian countries. When Asians migrate to the
United States, their prostate and brast cancer rates tend to incrase,
with time, toward levels seen in the native US population. Although
this seems to strongly implicate environmental factors, a precise
explanation for this phenomenon is not currently available.
4. Similarities in epidemiologic factors: There appear to be very
similar lifestyle risk factors accompanying both prostate and breast
cancer, including a lower risk associated with high intake of fruits,
vegetables, fiber, and soy products and, alternativvely, a higher risk
associated with increased intake of red meat, animal fats, dairy
products, and steroid exposure, as well as body mass and birth weight.
This similarity does not exist with other cancers, such as stomach
cancer.
5. Early events are common: In contrast to clinical cancers, small
incidental foci of prostate cnacer, as well as early pathologic
changes and benign prostateic hyperplasia, appear to have relatively
high incidences with aging in both the United States and Asia. This
suggests that promotion and not initiation may be the critical
difference between the clinical rates of prostate cancer in different
geographical areas.
6. Similarities between prostate and breast: Both glands have many
similarities with regard to physiology, endocrinology, benign tumors,
and the age-adjusted incidence and mortality rates of cancer that
appear to be correlated in various countries.
... (p. 35) It is recognized that all of the thousands of different
species of male mammals have a prostate gland; thus, this is a common
denominator. However, mammals that eat meat, such as dogs, cats, and
sea lions, do not have seminal vesicle whereas those that eat
primarily plants, such as the great apes, horses, bulls, and rodents,
do have a seminal vesicle. It is apparent that during evolution, diet
is associated in some way with the selection for the presence or
absence of the seminal vesicle. Can diet also be involved in why
humans do not get seminal vesicle cancer but do get prostate cancer?
What is confusing about the above analogy is that the human appears to
be an exception in that we eat large quantities of meat but we still
have a seminal vesicle. This may be the problem. This apparent
exception may be the result of a very recent change and diversion in
our diet and food processing from the plant and fruit diet used over
th emain part of human evolution."
http://physics.cancer.gov/ps2/pdf/evolution/26%20Similarities.pdf

Other common diseases related to meat consumption also seem to be less
prevalent in the closest relatives within their ecological niche,
eating natural diets.

LDL increased experimentally w/atherogenic diets in chimps. -
Vastesaeger et al. 1975.

Raising blood levels of chol produces atherosclerosis in chimps. -
Steinberg.
Oxidized LDL is initiating factor.

Chimps rarely get hyperlipidemia in wild but easily get it from animal
husbandry food. (Doucet et al. 1994).

Chimps are more sensitive to hypercholesterolemia than most primates.
Steinetz et al 1996.

"lipoprotein classes..blood chemistry of chimps & gorillas is very
similar to humans. -Steinetz

“xenotropic constituents from soy, milk, fish, grains in chimp chow..
wild chimps are rarely obese.–Wrangham, 1975. Young captive chimps
have died from myocardial infarction. Blaton, Exp Mol Pathol, 20;
132).

Chimps are ~4.03 xs more sensitive to increased dietary chol than
humans. –Simon Steven Institute Brugge, Belgium (Blaten et al, 1970,
72, 74, Howard et al, 72, Peeters, et al 75, 70 etc)

“Chimps live largely on fruits and leaves and their intake of
nutrients such as Vitamin C is many times that of most of us. They eat
a little meat and hunt monkeys on occasion but they are not well
adapted to meat eating; a small amount of saturated fat sends their
cholesterol levels very high” (Mestel 2002; A20).

“There is no evidence that meat is needed for normal pregnancy or
nursing” (Goodall, 1986, Stanford 1998)

"Deficiency diseases have not been identified for any wild primate
population (Kerr 1972, Wolf 1972). Known cases of nutritional diseases
among primates are laboratory-induced features of captive animals or
culturally induced human diseases. BioScience, Volume 28, Pages
761-766, 1978"

With all the confounding variables and impracticality of using human
subjects for controlled trials, 100% 'proof' is not available for most
disease causes, especially cancer. But careful diet experimentation is
a method of obtaining observation of differences in digestion and
disease risks with long-term natural human diets excluding meat/dairy/
grains/candy/soda, etc.

Since increasing raw fruit and slashing protein intake, including meat
and dairy (filled with natural and synthetic hormones/carcinogens),
I've sloughed off fibroepithelial polyps and they have stopped
propagating. Perhaps the reduced protein and hormones did not allow
for uncontrollable skin proliferation and this could also be the case
with potential malignant tumors. Of course this is not by itself
absolute proof that meat consumption is a cause of cancer but I apply
what I learn from experience and research (available evidence) while
monitoring overall health.

Chris
O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 17:52 GMT
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> In message <WDnwm.30177$j7.493411@news.indigo.ie>, O.pearl wrote:
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> Oh, wait ...

For how long?  .....  

That is, were you going to show us some studies to look at .. ?
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 18:28 GMT
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>Kathy Freston
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>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 18:44 GMT
>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
> That is crap.

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'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

© The Cancer Project

Health-conscious consumers often choose grilled chicken over fried chicken,
but grilled chicken - as well as other grilled meats - can increase the risk
of cancer.

Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
rates, compared with people who avoid meat. But now we also know that
grilled meats pose a unique threat. Cancer-causing chemicals called
heterocyclic amines (HCAs) have been found in chicken and other meats,
and the very highest concentrations occur when these products are grilled.

Grilling meat, especially chicken, produces carcinogenic HCAs, which are
formed from the creatinine, amino acids, and sugar found in muscle tissue.
More HCAs are produced by long cooking times and hot temperatures,
which make grilling, pan frying, and oven broiling particularly dangerous
cooking methods.

The federal government added HCAs to its list of carcinogens in January
2005. But most Americans remain unaware that these compounds lurk in
cooked meat. As known mutagens, HCAs can bind directly to DNA and
cause mutations, the first step in the development of cancer.

Grilling is also problematic because when fat from meat drips onto an open
flame, carcinogens called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) form
and are deposited back onto the meat through smoke.

Scientists have discovered more than 16 different HCAs. One type
commonly found in grilled meats is PhIP, which has been on California's
list of cancer-causing chemicals for more than a decade. Scientists have
not determined a safe consumption level of PhIP, meaning that any
amount is believed to potentially increase cancer risk.

Recent studies have shown that the consumption of well-done meat, which
contains PhIP and other HCAs, is associated with an increased risk for
colon, rectal, esophageal, lung, larynx, pancreatic, prostate, stomach, and
breast cancer, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

In a recent review of 30 epidemiologic studies on the link between eating
well-done meat and cancer at various sites, 80 percent of the studies
showed a positive correlation. HCAs have also been specifically linked
to colorectal cancer: One review found that high cooking temperature
increased colon cancer risk almost two fold and increased risk for rectal
cancer by 60 percent.

Meat cooked at high temperatures may also increase the risk of pancreatic
cancer, according to a study presented at the American Association for
Cancer Research annual meeting. In this nine-year study, researchers
analyzed information on meat consumption and preferred cooking methods
for 62,581 participants. Participants who cooked meat at high temperatures
and consumed more well-done meat had about a 60 percent higher risk of
pancreatic cancer, compared with other people.

Many people switch to chicken and fish, believing these to be healthier
alternatives to beef. But that is not the case. Grilled chicken produces more
than 10 times the amount of the carcinogenic HCAs found in grilled beef.
Furthermore, nearly all the HCAs detected are in the form of PhIP, which
has specifically been implicated in breast cancer risk. Fish also contains
significant amounts of creatine, one of the other main ingredients for the
formation of the carcinogens.

HCAs are not the only cancer risk that comes from eating meat. Countries
with a higher fat intake, especially fat from animal products, have a higher
incidence of breast cancer. One hypothesized reason is that low-fiber,
high-fat foods increase the amount of estrogen in the bloodstream, which
encourages breast cancer cell growth. A similar phenomenon can occur
when men eat high-fat fare, leading to a higher risk of prostate cancer.

The consumption of meat and other fatty foods is strongly linked to colon
cancer. Recent studies have shown that red meat - even red meat cooked
at a low temperature - can increase colon cancer risk by as much as 300
percent.

These facts seem to pose a dilemma for meat-eating consumers. Cook
chicken or beef too little, and you could easily end up with a bacterial
infection. Turn up the heat enough to kill the bacteria, and you may create
cancer-causing compounds.

There is a healthy - and delicious - alternative. Instead of meat products,
try grilling up a homemade veggie burger or vegetable-and-tofu kebobs.

Since creatine, one of the ingredients for the formation of HCAs, is mostly
found in muscle tissue, it is not surprising that grilled veggie burgers and
other vegetarian foods contain either no HCAs or negligible levels.

Choosing plant-based foods instead of meat also lowers cancer risk in other
ways. Not only are vegetables low in fat and high in fiber, they also contain
many cancer-fighting substances. Carotenoids, the pigment that gives fruits
and vegetables their dark colors, have been shown to help prevent cancer.
Beta-carotene, present in dark green and yellow vegetables, helps protect
against lung cancer and may help prevent cancers of the bladder, mouth,
larynx, esophagus, breast, and other sites. Many studies have found that
diets rich in fruits and vegetables and low in animal fat cut cancer risks.

Want to grill up something healthy? Visit www.CancerProject.org for
delicious vegetarian recipes, information on nutrition and cooking classes,
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Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 19:28 GMT
>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>> That is crap.
>
>c-a-n-c-    More...
>
>'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

That is more crap.

To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
naturopathic mafia.

One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
spread fear against scientific medicine.
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RF - 29 Sep 2009 19:40 GMT
>>>> Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That is more crap.

Yours is the crap!

> To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
> naturopathic mafia.
>
> One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
> the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
> spread fear against scientific medicine.

Another brain dead one.

It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
carcinogens.
Pete - 29 Sep 2009 21:33 GMT
>>>>> Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
> carcinogens.

LOL  it's like arguing with Ru$h! and the GOP  :-)))
In the last year, Ru$h as stated to his listeners that sugar, cigarettes
and processed meats are OK. Personally, I'm OK with this as Darwinism
(something ru$h does not believe) will be back in place and take it's
course. What I have a problem with is having to waste taxpayer's money to
help these people once they become ill.

I'll be paying for their stupidity!
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 21:46 GMT
>>>>> Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
>carcinogens.

That is not the point.

Learn to read!
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PeterB - Original - 19 Oct 2009 17:38 GMT
> >>>> Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
> >>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
> carcinogens.

Stew bait has no experience with that other than having receptors for
chemotoxins and sh.t for brains.
O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 19:43 GMT
>>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
> spread fear against scientific medicine.

Meanwhile.. in the real world..

'Report Favors Cholesterol Drugs, But Doctors Say Diet Is Effective
..
Drug companies also help set the tone in doctors' offices. They enlist
doctors as consultants, even at smaller community hospitals. They pay for
medical conferences like the recent American College of Cardiology
meeting in Orlando, Fla. Pfizer was the leading sponsor there, forking over
$822,000 for the meeting and handing out Lipitor-logo bags to thousands.
Drug salesmen visit doctors' offices, sometimes weekly, paying for pizza
lunches and treating physicians to dinner. It all adds up to a coziness that
makes prescribing drugs feel like the norm.
..
The diet is strictly vegetarian [..] Highmark says it has saved about $17,000
a patient by avoiding bypass operations and angioplasty procedures, ...
..........
http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/119.htm
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 21:48 GMT
>>>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>'Report Favors Cholesterol Drugs, But Doctors Say Diet Is Effective

Ah, she does it again...

The only REAL WORLD THING I accept: that she stops making false medical claims
in her web-site.
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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 22:30 GMT
>>>>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>>>> That is crap.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> The only REAL WORLD THING I accept: that she stops making false medical claims
> in her web-site.

Let's see you cite "false medical claims" or any /ever/ posted, desperado.

Meanwhile... in the /real world/...   headlines of recent/current news....

Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
(NaturalNews) Women with estrogen receptor-positive (ER positive)
breast cancer are commonly prescribed the drug tamoxifen because it
blocks the effects of estrogen in breast tissue. In fact, long-term
tamoxifen use among ER positive breast cancer survivors has become a
standard therapy...

Concerns about Dangers from Swine Flu Vaccine Grow
(NaturalNews) Concerns about the safety of the H1N1 vaccine continue
to grow as the government rushes to bring the vaccine to market...

Merck employees had "hit list" of doctors they sought to "neutralize", court
documents reveal (opinion)
(NaturalNews) Previously secret documents that surfaced at a Vioxx court
case in April of this year reveal pharmaceutical giant Merck maintained a
"hit list" of doctors to be "neutralized" for speaking out against Vioxx...

Diabetes Drug Could Cause Pancreatic Cancer
(NaturalNews) The popular diabetes drug sitagliptin (marketed as Januvia)
may increase the risk of pancreatic cancer, according to study conducted
by researchers from the University of California-Los Angeles and published
in the journal Diabetes.

Removing Ovaries Ups Women's Lung Cancer Risk
(NaturalNews) Ovaries, the almond-shaped organs that sit on each side of
the uterus in a woman's pelvis, contain eggs and produce hormones that
control the menstrual cycle...

Researchers Warn Drug-Resistant TB Strains Could Become Widespread
(NaturalNews) US scientists from Vanderbilt University and Australian
researchers from the University of New South Wales (UNSW) and the
University of Western Sydney are separately sounding the alarm about the
rise of tuberculosis (TB) superbugs...

Pesticides Cause Parkinson's Disease
(NaturalNews) A new study just found that Parkinson's disease is linked to
pesticide exposure...

U.S. Pharmaceutical Factories Dumping Huge Quantities of Drugs Into Public
Sewers, Rivers and Waterways
(NaturalNews) In spite of claims by pharmaceutical companies that they do
not discharge their products into the water supply, federal researchers have
discovered that waters downstream of pharmaceutical plants are more
heavily contaminated with drug residue than waters elsewhere in the country...

Home Pesticides Linked to Childhood Cancers
(NaturalNews) Acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL), a malignant disease of
the bone marrow, is the most common cancer diagnosed in children. In fact,
nearly one third of all pediatric cancers are cases of ALL...

Why are so many celebrities dying after chemotherapy?
(NaturalNews) Patrick Swayze's death came as a shock to many people.
But not to his own cancer doctor: They know that the five-year survival rates
of people being treated with chemotherapy for pancreatic cancer are virtually
zero...

more?      

Study Finds Breast Cancer Fighting Properties within Mushrooms
(NaturalNews) A recent study published in the International Journal of Cancer
found evidence supporting that mushrooms have breast cancer-fighting
properties.This study was conducted at the University of Western Australia in
Perth. The study included 2,018 Chinese women..

Vitamin C Deficiency May Damage Babies' Mental Development
(NaturalNews) According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders
and Stroke (NINDS), learning disabilities are disorders that affect the ability
to understand or use spoken or written language, do math calculations,
coordinate movements, or direct attention..

Basil is a Natural Anti-Inflammatory Herb
(NaturalNews) Basil was recently shown to reduce swelling and inflammation
in arthritic patients by about 73 percent, which is on par with commonly used
drugs for arthritis...

Fig Leaves Provide a Natural Health Remedy for Diabetes
by: Barbi Trejo, citizen journalist (NaturalNews) Fig leaves are best known for
treating diabetes, but there are many other uses for the fig leaves...

Sweet Potatoes: Improve Your Health with this Autumn Super Food
(NaturalNews) One of the most nutritious and beneficial foods that you can add
to your diet is also one of the most famous of all the Fall comfort foods - sweet
potatoes.

.................
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 22:51 GMT
>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>(NaturalNews)

"Naturalnews" is no serious source.
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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 23:05 GMT
>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>(NaturalNews)
>
> "Naturalnews" is no serious source.

Says?  You?  Think ANYONE considers -you- even /remotely/ credible?

'Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
Yesterday at 8:00am

(NaturalNews) Women with estrogen receptor-positive (ER positive) breast
cancer are commonly prescribed the drug tamoxifen because it blocks the effects
of estrogen in breast tissue. In fact, long-term tamoxifen use among ER positive
breast cancer survivors has become a standard therapy. According to the
National Cancer Institute (NCI), side effects of the drug range from hot flashes,
vaginal dryness, joint pain and leg cramps to blood clots, cataracts, strokes and
uterine cancer. Understandably, many women are willing to accept these risks
because they are told tamoxifen decreases their chance for a recurrence of
breast cancer. However, a new study by Christopher Li, M.D., Ph.D., and
colleagues at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center just published online in
the journal Cancer Research seems to reveal the belief that tamoxifen protects
against breast cancer is only partially correct. The drug may also cause certain
breast cancers.

Yes, breast-cancer patients who receive long-term estrogen-blocker tamoxifen
therapy have a 60 percent reduction in their incidence of a second, ER positive
breast cancer -- a common type of breast cancer which tends not to be
aggressive and is responsive to estrogen-blocking therapy. But the new research
shows tamoxifen increases the risk of the women developing a second and far
more dangerous type of breast cancer by a stunning 440 percent.

This type of ER negative cancer develops as a malignant tumor in the breast
opposite, or contralateral, to the initial tumor. It is an aggressive, difficult-to-
treat type of cancer with a poor prognosis. In other words, it is far more likely
to spread and potentially kill.

The new findings by Dr. Li and his research team confirm earlier research
published in 2001 by the same group of researchers which suggested a link
between long-term tamoxifen use and a heightened risk of ER-negative second
cancers. "The earlier study had a number of limitations. For example, we did
not have information on the duration of tamoxifen therapy the women received,"
Li said in a statement to the media. "The current study is larger, is based on
much more detailed data, and is the first study specifically designed to determine
whether tamoxifen use among breast cancer survivors influences their risk of
different types of second breast cancers."

For the new study, the scientists investigated the history of tamoxifen use among
1,103 breast cancer survivors from the Seattle-Puget Sound region. The women
were initially diagnosed between the ages of 40 and 79 with ER positive breast
cancer and 369 of them later developed a second breast cancer. Virtually all of
the women in the study who took adjuvant hormonal therapy were placed on
tamoxifen to block estrogen.

Predictably, Dr. Li says the findings do not mean women should stop taking
tamoxifen therapy if their doctors say they need it. "However, these therapies
have risks, and an increased risk of ER negative second cancer may be one of
them," he said in the media statement.

As covered in NaturalNews previously, research has shown a host of natural
ways women can adjust their diets and lifestyles to help them reduce the risk of
breast cancer. For example, eating mushrooms ( http://www.naturalnews.com/026495_cancer_mushrooms_breast_cancer.html ),
drinking tea
( http://www.naturalnews.com/025634_cancer_breast_cancer_health.html )
and exercising regularly
( http://www.naturalnews.com/026024_cancer_breast_cancer_cancer_risk.html )
are important cancer prevention strategies.

For more information:
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009/08/25/tamoxifen.html
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/therapy/tamoxifen

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Now, "Happy Oyster",  grok that a lot of professional sci.med sorts are
reading this, and possibly wishing that you'd shut the F up already.  tssk!
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 23:14 GMT
>>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>>(NaturalNews)
>>
>> "Naturalnews" is no serious source.
>
>Says?  You?  Think ANYONE considers -you- even /remotely/ credible?

Attorneys of state use my material... and, in consequence, closed some scam
organizations, including 2 MLM systems.
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O.pearl - 29 Sep 2009 23:25 GMT
>>>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>>>(NaturalNews)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Attorneys of state use my material... and, in consequence, closed some scam
> organizations, including 2 MLM systems.

'wow'

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Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2009 23:39 GMT
>>>>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>>>>(NaturalNews)
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Peter Bowditch - 29 Sep 2009 23:51 GMT
>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer

That can't be true, Pearl. Tamoxifen comes from a plant and as you
keep saying, plants cure cancer, not cause it.

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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 00:51 GMT
>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>
> That can't be true, Pearl. Tamoxifen comes from a plant and as you
> keep saying, plants cure cancer, not cause it.

'tamoxifen
drug

synthetic hormone, used primarily in the prevention and treatment of
breast cancer, that inhibits the growth-promoting actions of estrogen
in breast cancer cells.

Tamoxifen was first synthesized in 1962 by scientists at the British
pharmaceutical company Imperial Chemical Industries PLC (now
AstraZeneca). The agent (then known as ICI 46474) was subsequently
found to have contraceptive effects in rats and was believed to exert its
effects solely through antiestrogen mechanisms. Thus, tamoxifen was
initially investigated for potential use as a morning-after pill. However,
in the early 1970s, when it was found that tamoxifen had the opposite
effect in humans - it actually increased fertility by stimulating ovulation
in women - research on the agent as a form of contraception was
promptly abandoned.
..'
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/582056/tamoxifen

Pseudoscience.
Peter Bowditch - 29 Sep 2009 23:49 GMT
>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.

And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
the outside or inside surface of the Earth?

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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 00:56 GMT
>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
>
> And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
> the outside or inside surface of the Earth?

B. You really don't want to go there.

A. 'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

© The Cancer Project

Health-conscious consumers often choose grilled chicken over fried chicken,
but grilled chicken - as well as other grilled meats - can increase the risk
of cancer.

Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
rates, compared with people who avoid meat. But now we also know that
grilled meats pose a unique threat. Cancer-causing chemicals called
heterocyclic amines (HCAs) have been found in chicken and other meats,
and the very highest concentrations occur when these products are grilled.

Grilling meat, especially chicken, produces carcinogenic HCAs, which are
formed from the creatinine, amino acids, and sugar found in muscle tissue.
More HCAs are produced by long cooking times and hot temperatures,
which make grilling, pan frying, and oven broiling particularly dangerous
cooking methods.

The federal government added HCAs to its list of carcinogens in January
2005. But most Americans remain unaware that these compounds lurk in
cooked meat. As known mutagens, HCAs can bind directly to DNA and
cause mutations, the first step in the development of cancer.

Grilling is also problematic because when fat from meat drips onto an open
flame, carcinogens called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) form
and are deposited back onto the meat through smoke.

Scientists have discovered more than 16 different HCAs. One type
commonly found in grilled meats is PhIP, which has been on California's
list of cancer-causing chemicals for more than a decade. Scientists have
not determined a safe consumption level of PhIP, meaning that any
amount is believed to potentially increase cancer risk.

Recent studies have shown that the consumption of well-done meat, which
contains PhIP and other HCAs, is associated with an increased risk for
colon, rectal, esophageal, lung, larynx, pancreatic, prostate, stomach, and
breast cancer, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

In a recent review of 30 epidemiologic studies on the link between eating
well-done meat and cancer at various sites, 80 percent of the studies
showed a positive correlation. HCAs have also been specifically linked
to colorectal cancer: One review found that high cooking temperature
increased colon cancer risk almost two fold and increased risk for rectal
cancer by 60 percent.

Meat cooked at high temperatures may also increase the risk of pancreatic
cancer, according to a study presented at the American Association for
Cancer Research annual meeting. In this nine-year study, researchers
analyzed information on meat consumption and preferred cooking methods
for 62,581 participants. Participants who cooked meat at high temperatures
and consumed more well-done meat had about a 60 percent higher risk of
pancreatic cancer, compared with other people.

Many people switch to chicken and fish, believing these to be healthier
alternatives to beef. But that is not the case. Grilled chicken produces more
than 10 times the amount of the carcinogenic HCAs found in grilled beef.
Furthermore, nearly all the HCAs detected are in the form of PhIP, which
has specifically been implicated in breast cancer risk. Fish also contains
significant amounts of creatine, one of the other main ingredients for the
formation of the carcinogens.

HCAs are not the only cancer risk that comes from eating meat. Countries
with a higher fat intake, especially fat from animal products, have a higher
incidence of breast cancer. One hypothesized reason is that low-fiber,
high-fat foods increase the amount of estrogen in the bloodstream, which
encourages breast cancer cell growth. A similar phenomenon can occur
when men eat high-fat fare, leading to a higher risk of prostate cancer.

The consumption of meat and other fatty foods is strongly linked to colon
cancer. Recent studies have shown that red meat - even red meat cooked
at a low temperature - can increase colon cancer risk by as much as 300
percent.

These facts seem to pose a dilemma for meat-eating consumers. Cook
chicken or beef too little, and you could easily end up with a bacterial
infection. Turn up the heat enough to kill the bacteria, and you may create
cancer-causing compounds.

There is a healthy - and delicious - alternative. Instead of meat products,
try grilling up a homemade veggie burger or vegetable-and-tofu kebobs.

Since creatine, one of the ingredients for the formation of HCAs, is mostly
found in muscle tissue, it is not surprising that grilled veggie burgers and
other vegetarian foods contain either no HCAs or negligible levels.

Choosing plant-based foods instead of meat also lowers cancer risk in other
ways. Not only are vegetables low in fat and high in fiber, they also contain
many cancer-fighting substances. Carotenoids, the pigment that gives fruits
and vegetables their dark colors, have been shown to help prevent cancer.
Beta-carotene, present in dark green and yellow vegetables, helps protect
against lung cancer and may help prevent cancers of the bladder, mouth,
larynx, esophagus, breast, and other sites. Many studies have found that
diets rich in fruits and vegetables and low in animal fat cut cancer risks.

Want to grill up something healthy? Visit www.CancerProject.org for
delicious vegetarian recipes, information on nutrition and cooking classes,
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Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 01:19 GMT
>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>© The Cancer Project

And that is crap. Why? Because it is abused for advertising by Carole Hubbard, a
spammer, who makes false medical claims.
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 01:27 GMT
>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> And that is crap. Why? <nonsense>

ITBDT.
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 01:36 GMT
>>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>ITBDT.

And that is crap.
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 01:45 GMT
>>>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> And that is crap.

Thanks for participating.
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 01:49 GMT
>>>>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Thanks for participating.

Oh, really?
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 01:54 GMT
>>>>>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Oh, really?

Yes, indeed.  Here's a medal.  :)  It's shiny.
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 03:05 GMT
>>>>>>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>>>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Yes, indeed.  Here's a medal.  :)  It's shiny.

So?
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 01:50 GMT
http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php

The Cancer Project

Diet and Cancer Research

What we eat and how we treat our bodies on a daily basis have a very powerful effect
on our health and quality of life. Although cancer can affect many different parts of the
body, the foods that prevent cancer and deter cancer growth are generally the same.
Fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes all have important nutrients and other cancer-
fighting substances like phytochemicals and pectin that strengthen immune function and
destroy cancer-causing substances before they cause harm. Research has shown that
people who eat a diet free of animal products, high in plant foods, and low in fat have
a much lower risk of developing cancer.  Search for research and fact sheets on topics
listed below.

Cancer Facts:
 Choose One         Factors Contributing to Cancer         Foods for Cancer Prevention        
Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk         Research of the Major Killers of Americans        
The Roles of Exercise and Stress Management      

Research by Cancer Type:
        Choose One  Breast Cancer         Ovarian and Endometrial Cancer        
Prostate Cancer         Testicular Cancer         Lung Cancer         Pancreatic Cancer        
Colon Cancer         Esophageal and Gastric Cancer         Lymphoma        
Women and Cancer: Opportunities for Prevention        

Research on Diet and Cancer:
        Choose One  Elevated Cancer-Related Hormones Associated with Protein and
Dairy Consumption         Alcohol Consumption Increases Cancer Risk         Fish Oil
Does Not Prevent Cancer         Whole Diet Counts         What Is It about Those
Vegetarians?         Low-Fat Diet Boosts Immunity         The Power of Plants        
Tomatoes Attack Cancer Cells         Cancer Risk from Animal Organs         What
Causes Cancer?         DES Dangers May Extend to Grandchildren         Cancer Risk
from Dioxin in Meat, Fish, and Dairy         Toxic Fish Compound Ends Up in Breast Milk        
Milk Consumption and Prostate Cancer        

Facts on Healthy Weight Control:
        Choose One  Low-Fat Study Underscores Need for Dramatic Dietary Changes        
Overweight Tied to Certain Cancers          Body Mass Index and Breast Cancer Survival          
Pancreatic Cancer Linked to Obesity         Holiday Weight Gain Stays Year-Round        
Lose Weight with Old-Fashion Oatmeal        

Nutrition Facts:
        Choose One  The Antioxidant Defenses         Foods and Immunity         Iron: The
Double-Edged Sword         Fat and Hormonal Effects  Heterocyclic Amines  Other
Dietary Factors  Setting Blame Aside  Carotenoids  Vitamin E  Vitamin C  Selenium  
Fiber  Lycopene  Soy Isoflavones  Isothioscyanates  Other Phytochemicals      

http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 03:03 GMT
>http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>
>The Cancer Project

You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 03:14 GMT
>>http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>
>>The Cancer Project
>
> You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.

My "site"?  You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.

BD.
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 03:31 GMT
>>>http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>My "site"?  You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.

This is no forum, this  is usenet.

What you CALL "real science", is crap.

This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
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O.pearl - 30 Sep 2009 11:45 GMT
>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> This is no forum, this  is usenet.

n., pl., fo·rums, also fo·ra (fôr'?, for'?).
..
2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such
as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
..'
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> What you CALL "real science", is crap.

I call real science the study of real humans in real life to discover the
real causes and authentic treatment of real disease.  You think real
science is study of other species in the lab' with artificially induced
diseases and synthetic chemicals.  No wonder the results from your
system are an abysmal failure, and I'm the one with all the answers.

> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground?  Doubt it.
Happy Oyster - 30 Sep 2009 20:52 GMT
>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>
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>..'
>http://www.answers.com/forum

That is bullshit.

>> What you CALL "real science", is crap.
>
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>diseases and synthetic chemicals.  No wonder the results from your
>system are an abysmal failure, and I'm the one with all the answers.

That is bullshit.

>> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
>
>Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground?  Doubt it.

You just proved that all your claims about YOUR kind of science are bullshit.
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O.pearl - 01 Oct 2009 16:46 GMT
>>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>>
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>
> That is bullshit.

That's nonsense.

>>> What you CALL "real science", is crap.
>>
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>
> That is bullshit.

That's not an argument.

>>> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
>>
>>Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground?  Doubt it.
>
> You just proved that all your claims about YOUR kind of science are bullshit.

That's nonsense, and not an argument. Like my new sig'?

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O.pearl - 01 Oct 2009 17:07 GMT
correction

>>>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>>>
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>
> 60 Minutes, Swine Flu Vaccine Warning, 1979 pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk6Qfg6RXOg&NR=1  <<
Happy Oyster - 02 Oct 2009 14:54 GMT
>correction

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Happy Oyster - 02 Oct 2009 14:52 GMT
>>>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>>>
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>That's nonsense, and not an argument. Like my new sig'?

That is crap.
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O.pearl - 03 Oct 2009 17:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>>>>
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>
> That is crap.

ITBDT.

'Public release date: 8-Sep-2009

High fruit and vegetable intake positively correlated with antioxidant status,
cognitive performance

Study of healthy subjects

Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, Düsseldorf, Germany,
investigated the relationship between fruit and vegetable intake, plasma antioxidant
micronutrient status and cognitive performance in healthy subjects aged 45 to 102
years. Their results, published in the August issue of the Journal of Alzheimer's
Disease, indicated higher cognitive performance in individuals with high daily intake
of fruits and vegetables.

Subjects with a high daily intake (about 400 g) of fruits and vegetables had higher
antioxidant levels, lower indicators of free radical-induced damage against lipids
as well as better cognitive performance compared to healthy subjects of any age
consuming low amounts (< 100 g/day) of fruits and vegetables. Modification of
nutritional habits aimed at increasing intake of fruits and vegetables, therefore,
should be encouraged to lower the prevalence of cognitive impairment.

The work was performed in collaboration with the Department of Pharmacology
at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Department of Geriatrics
at Perugia University, Italy, and the Department of Neurology of the St. Elisabeth
Hospital in Cologne, Germany.

Dr. M. Cristina Polidori, currently at the Department of Geriatrics, Marienhospital
Herne, Ruhr-University of Bochum, Germany, explains: "It is known that there is
a  strong association between fruit and vegetable intake and the natural antioxidant
defenses of the body against free radicals. It is also known that bad nutritional
habits increase the risk of developing cognitive impairment with and without
dementia. With this work we show a multiple link between fruit and vegetable
intake, antioxidant defenses and cognitive performance, in the absence of disease
and independent of age. Among other lifestyle habits, it is recommended to improve
nutrition in general and fruit and vegetable intake in particular at any age, beginning
as early as possible. This may increase our chances to remain free of dementia in
advanced age."

These findings are independentof age, gender, body mass index, level of education,
lipid profile and albumin levels, all factors able to influence cognitive and antioxidant
status. The relevance of the findings is also strengthened by the large sample that
included 193 healthy subjects.

Further studies are planned that will include larger subject cohorts, patients with
Alzheimer's disease at different stages and patients with mild cognitive impairment
without dementia.

###

Reference: Polidori MC, Pratico D, Mangialasche F, Mariani E, Aust O, Anlasik T,
Mang N, Pientka L, Stahl W, Sies H, Nelles G. High fruit and vegetable intake is
positively correlated with antioxidant status and cognitive performance in healthy
subjects. J Alzheimers Dis 17:4 (August 2009).

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-09/ip-hf090809.php
Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2009 17:22 GMT
>ITBDT.
>
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>Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
>and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, Düsseldorf, Germany,

Oh, with that university I still have a fight...

http://www.klinikskandal.com

Venceremos!
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O.pearl - 03 Oct 2009 17:36 GMT
>>ITBDT.
>>
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>
> http://www.klinikskandal.com

"no matches found"
Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2009 19:33 GMT
>>>ITBDT.
>>>
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>
>"no matches found"

You should not look for matches nor a cigarette lighter. You should look for the
University of Düsseldorf.
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O.pearl - 03 Oct 2009 22:35 GMT
>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>
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> You should not look for matches nor a cigarette lighter. You should look for the
> University of Düsseldorf.

No matches with any of the researchers mentioned in the article that's posted.

From what I can make out, you've a problem with a Dr. Pfitzer of the University
of Dusseldorf because of his and others 'verification' of some proposed theory.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the research posted.  You've no valid argument.
Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2009 23:04 GMT
>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>Nothing whatsoever to do with the research posted.  You've no valid argument.

You are talking crap.

The university is the problem, because the university as wole did not stop
Pfitzer and it did not stop Stemmann.
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O.pearl - 03 Oct 2009 23:34 GMT
>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>
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> The university is the problem, because the university as wole did not stop
> Pfitzer

Stop what?  Giving an opinion in connection to some theory?  Ridiculous.
Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2009 23:46 GMT
>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>
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>
>Stop what?  Giving an opinion in connection to some theory?  Ridiculous.

Learn to read.

http://www.deathsect.com
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O.pearl - 04 Oct 2009 00:43 GMT
>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> http://www.deathsect.com

No matches found in that for either the University of Dusseldorf or Dr. Pfitzer.

Get a life - or your swine flu jab.
Happy Oyster - 04 Oct 2009 02:12 GMT
>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
>Get a life - or your swine flu jab.

Learn to read.
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O.pearl - 04 Oct 2009 11:43 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>
> Learn to read.

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools
that don't have brains enough to be honest."
- Benjamin Franklin
Happy Oyster - 04 Oct 2009 18:17 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>that don't have brains enough to be honest."
> - Benjamin Franklin

Franklin made a good description of you. ;O)
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O.pearl - 04 Oct 2009 19:20 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> Franklin made a good description of you. ;O)

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools,
that don't have brains enough to be honest."
- Benjamin Franklin
Happy Oyster - 04 Oct 2009 19:42 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>that don't have brains enough to be honest."
> - Benjamin Franklin

Cut+paste does not a thought make.
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O.pearl - 05 Oct 2009 13:40 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ITBDT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> Cut+paste does not a thought make.

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools,
that don't have brains enough to be honest."
- Benjamin Franklin
Happy Oyster - 05 Oct 2009 22:32 GMT
>"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools,
>that don't have brains enough to be honest."
>- Benjamin Franklin

So, what trick is there behind whooping cough? Whooping cough is great. Good for
the lungs. Good for the karma. Never heard of that? The anthroposophs even build
music instruments for the ill children to play with. Yes, these instruments make
the sound of a person being gagged. Good for the karma, the anthroposophs say.
The anthroposophs are a very special breed. Anthroposophy and nazi-dom have the
same source. Great for gagging children...

http://www.ibabuzz.com/aparentlyspeaking/2008/05/12/whooping-cough-crammed-class
es-a-mchenry-ouster-effort/


<quote>
One Response to “WHOOPING COUGH, Crammed Classes & a McHenry Ouster Effort”
ama Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

>An El Sobrante school was shut down last week after whooping cough
> - pertussis - swept through the private East Bay Waldorf School.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Wait. Parents are refusing antibiotics??

Yes, you got a minute piece of the picture. Fact is: Anthroposophs WANT children
to become ill.

The danger, especially for the Americas, is that people infected over here in
Europe enter your countries and spread the highly infectuous diseases.

Even worse is the fact that these sects founded strong bases in the USA,
committing the same crimes in the USA. It is vital to stop them immediately.

In Africa there still are large numbers of infections per year, but in the
Americas vaccination was largely effective, eradicating the measles. The PAHO in
2006 published an alert because tourists coming back from the soccer
championship in Germany might bring measles back to the American continent. A
measles epidemic broke out in Nordrhein-Westfalen, just were the games were. In
2007 two children died. They had been infected in 2006.

Matthias Rath is only one of the dangers stemming from Germany. A very big
danger is homeopaths and anthroposophs, who indoctrinate people. Some homeopaths
from the “Medizinische Hochschule Hannover” some years ago went to the Himalaya
to bring people there homeopathy. That is outrageous.
Homeopathy is a deadly dangerous quackery, and “anthroposophic medicine” is even
worse.

If homeopaths and anthroposophs take part in medical aid in underdevelloped
countries, like Ethiopia, there is the big risk, that they sabotage the whole
project. One case I found (this is why I mention this topic) is a medical
doctor, who in Germany openly opposes vaccination, takes part in a vaccination
project in Ethiopia. That is completely contradictory. And I strongly believe
that if the vaccinating in Ethiopia were done correctly, there should be NO
infections…

SSPE is an ALWAYS deadly consequence of measles. The risk of SSPE - as far as we
know today - is 1: 3000 to 1:2000. The latter figure was found in 2007 in
Germany. This makes the risk of death by measles to about 1:400 in total for an
industry country like USA or Germany.

Max is a victim of SSPE:
http://www.aktion-max.de/links.html

“Jaxon’s Cure”, USA
http://www.jaxonscure.org/index.htm

SSPE SSPEDERNEGI, Turkye
http://www.sspedernegi.org/tr/index_eng.asp?tur=sayfa&id=142

In France:
Elizabeth Bonneau-Bréant

Présidente fondatrice de l’Association L’Oiseau Bleu

Association de lutte contre la panencéphalite subaigüe

sclérosante post-rougeole ou maladie de Van Bogaert

Tel: 0033-(0)1.60.75.37.90
Tel: 0033-(0)6.21.28.57.25
http://www.loiseaubleu.org

Email:

And, yes, do never forget: Anthroposophs WANT children to become ill.

This is the insanity which all their life is about: about being reborn again and
again. They claim that infectuous diseases in THIS life now are the punishment
for bad deeds of a person in its former lives. AND THAT THIS PUNISHMENT MUST NOT
BE DISTURBED.

AND they claim that the fever caused by measles has magic powers.

Why are the Anthroposophs so insane to believe that? Answer Because they believe
EVERYTHING Rudolf Steiner, their insane guru, said.

We have a forum where we report the results of our research concerning the
sabotage to the health system committed by sects like the Anthroposophs:
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo
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O.pearl - 06 Oct 2009 17:03 GMT
Measles again.

'Vaccines Did Not Save Us - 2 Centuries of Official Statistics

This is the data the drug industry do not want you to see. Here 2 centuries
of UK, USA and Australian official death statistics show conclusively and
scientifically modern medicine is not responsible for and played little part
in substantially improved life expectancy and survival from disease in
western economies.

The Measles mortality graphs are enlightening [more below] and contradict
the claims of Government health officials that vaccines have saved millions
of lives.  It is an unscientific claim which the data show is untrue. Here you
will also learn why vaccinations like mumps and rubella for children are
medically unethical and can expose medical professionals to liability for
criminal proceedings and civil damages for administering them.
..'
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

'MMR vaccine failures

[It is not generally know but over 50% of measles/mumps/rubella cases
have been vaccinated.]

"Take the 1991 measles epidemic. They calculated that this epidemic costs
the country 8 million dollars to treat the 9,000 plus cases. I'm not sure about
that figure, but the FACT that over 60% of those children were appropriately
vaccinated was never taken into consideration in that calculation."--Hilary Butler

[2009] A prolonged mumps outbreak among highly vaccinated Aboriginal
people in the Kimberley region of Western Australia
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/a_prolonged.html

Measles: vaccine isn't always enough (Finland 1999)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Measles outbreak puts focus on vaccine (Alaska 1998)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Mumps outbreak in highly vaccinated school
http://www.ias.org.nz/mumps.htm

Resurgence of mumps in Singapore associated with Rubini vaccine
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Journal articles of measles vaccine failure (MMR)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

"Study after study has demonstrated that many women immunized
against rubella as children lack evidence of immunity in blood tests
given during their adolescent years. Other tests have shown a high
vaccine failure rate in children given rubella, measles, and mumps
shots, either separately or in combined form."---Dr Mendelsohn

Rubella Vaccination: a failure by Michael Nightingale
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/rubella.html

[2007] measles outbreak experience I also managed to find out which
2 children had caught Measles. And guess what? Yes, both children
who had caught measles had been immunised with the combined MMR
at 13 months. Did the health workers inform the 2 mothers who
contacted me of this fact? No. But it didn't stop them using these cases
to frighten the mothers into allowing their children to be immunised with
the combined MMR. Utterly disgraceful. And they called themselves
"professionals".
http://www.whale.to/v/laura_c_a.html
.....'
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/mmr34.html

'Oct 02, 2009
Fever Plus Mitochondrial Disease Plus Vaccinations: Risk Factors
for Autistic Regression

Oct 01, 2009
Aluminum in vaccines increases thimerosal's toxicity

Sep 30, 2009
Washington state's Secretary of Health Mary Selecky: fraudulent, misquoted,
or uninformed?

Sep 28, 2009
Aluminum in vaccination-associated cognitive decline, motor neuron disease,
autism

Sep 27, 2009
Influenza rates among pregnant women: vaccinated vs unvaccinated

Sep 25, 2009
Letter to LATimes reporter: flu shots & H1N1 vaccinations implicate
thimerosal, autism, special education

Sep 20, 2009
Why do vaccine officials ignore adverse effects of thimerosal, aluminum,
and squalene?

Sep 07, 2009
Vaccination-induced cytokines: schizophrenia & developmental disabilities

Sep 02, 2009
Swine flu, regular flu: Do vaccinations augment sales of pychotropic and
other medicines?

Aug 29, 2009
Did NIAID's Anthony Fauci commit fraud or did US News & World
Report misquote Dr. Fauci?

Aug 19, 2009
Is Gardasil safe? Was the HPV vaccine promoted unfairly? Will H1N1
vaccinations injure?

Aug 12, 2009
Autism, mercury, other toxic metals, & glutathione

Aug 09, 2009
Lancet recommends caution for H1N1 vaccinations; ajduvants merit
concern
..
Jul 11, 2009
Vaccinations, cytokine storms, and autism

Jun 26, 2009
The flu shot: a brief review of anti-influenza vaccinations, by Sherri
Tenpenny, D.O.
..
Jun 16, 2009
Anti-influenza vaccination of pregnant women: is the fetus effected?
..
Jun 05, 2009
Gross Brown fictions: Vaccinations, autism, and the Institute of Medicine

May 31, 2009
MMR's live viruses, interferon gamma, and blood-brain barrier permeability
..
May 18, 2009
Toxicity of thimerosal and other metals: a new paper: April 2009
...'
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/index.htm
Happy Oyster - 06 Oct 2009 22:11 GMT
>Measles again.

THEN GET VACCINATED!
********************

<quote>
DATE: Tuesday, October 6, 2009        
FOR RELEASE: Immediately                        
Contact:  HHS Press Office
(202) 690-6343

MEDIA ADVISORY
For Wednesday, October 7, 2009

HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED B-ROLL FOOTAGE VIA SATELLITE

The U.S Department of Health & Human Services will release flu related b-roll
footage via satellite tomorrow, Wednesday October 7, 2009. The footage includes
images of the H1N1 vaccine being manufactured and tested and distributed, as
well as
footage of individuals visiting a doctor's office. A detailed breakdown of the
footage is included below.

WHAT:        
H1N1 related b-roll footage available via satellite

WHEN:                                        
TOMORROW
October 7, 2009
2 - 2:45pm ET

SATELLITE COORDINATES:                
Satellite: Galaxy 19/13K Slot D
FEC: 3/4
Symbol Rate: 5.632 @ 188 packet = 7.78541 Mbts Data rate
Data-7.2
D/L: 11969 MHz Vertical

Trouble Number:  
202.690.6076

Note:
A breakdown of the b-roll footage is included below.

1:00:00
Stages of Influenza Vaccine Development  
List of steps in developing vaccine for a new strain of influenza

1:00:52        
Doctor's Office
Sick person visits doctor
Doctor collects sample to send to local or state lab for identification

1:03:04        
Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Lab, Baltimore, MD
Initial testing of samples for influenza A and virus type

1:05:42        
CDC Influenza Lab
Typing and subtyping samples showing novel influenza virus
     
1:08:20        
Manufacturers - Stage 1
Using reference strain to prepare seed strain for vaccine production - Sanofi
Pasteur
Producing small batch of vaccine for use in clinical trials

1:10:23        
Vaccine Clinical Trials at NIAID's Vaccine Testing and Evaluation Units
Adult goes through clinical trial process:
Orientation, screening, blood draw, injection, take-home materials
Children in trial get vaccinated
Pregnant women in trial get vaccinated

1:13:48        
Manufacturers - Stage 2
Full-scale production of vaccine - MedImmune, GSK and Sanofi Pasteur

1:15:32        
FDA
Inspects lots of vaccine before release

1:17:16        
Distribution
McKesson prepares vaccine for distribution

1:19:35        
Public Vaccination Events
Seasonal flu vaccination, Baltimore and Washington
Secretary Sibelius receives seasonal flu vaccine


INTERVIEW CLIPS

1:23:14        
Dr. Thomas Frieden, Director, CDC

1:24:44        
Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director, NIAID, NIH

1:27:23        
Dr. Anne Schuchat, Director, NCIRD, CDC and Rear Admiral, USPHS, Assistant
Surgeon
General

1:30:48        
Dr. Margaret Hamburg, Commissioner, FDA

1:32:44        
Dr. Karen Kotloff, PI, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:36:24        
Arthur Fergenson, Volunteer, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:37:19        
Dr. Ina Stephens, PI, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:38:54        
Dr. Kathryn Edwards, PI, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

1:40:34        
Jessica Osaki, Volunteer, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

1:41:18        
Dr. Jill Simmons, Volunteer, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

###

Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are
available at
http://www.hhs.gov/news
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O.pearl - 07 Oct 2009 12:14 GMT
>>Measles again.
>
> THEN GET VACCINATED!
> ********************

(previous post)

> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED

'UPDATE 2-Glaxo gets shot in arm from new H1N1 vaccine orders

By Ben Hirschler

LONDON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline (GSK.L) has won orders for
H1N1 swine flu vaccine from a further nine governments, taking the total number
of doses ordered to 291 million, the British-based drugmaker said on Tuesday.

With more orders still to come, it could be in line for a flu vaccine windfall of
more than $3 billion in the next six months or so, according to industry analysts.

Glaxo has previously said it expects to sell pandemic vaccine for around the
same price as seasonal flu shots, which fetch about 5 pounds a dose, implying
its total booked orders are now worth around 1.5 billion pounds ($2.54 billion).

It also has a variety of agreements in place with the U.S. government to supply
pandemic products worth an additional $250 million.

"Discussions continue with governments for further supplies of the vaccine,"
the company added in a statement, suggesting further potential upside.

The new government contracts cover an additional 96 million doses, over and
above the total of 195 million that it announced with its half-year results on July
22.

Simon Mather, an analyst in WestLB, said he expected Glaxo to book the
vaccine orders during the fourth quarter of 2009 and first quarter of 2010, since
supplies will only be available for mass vaccination programmes from September
onwards.

Rivals in the flu vaccine space include Sanofi-Aventis (SASY.PA), Novartis
(NOVN.VX), Baxter (BAX.N), Solvay (SOLB.BR), AstraZeneca (AZN.L)
and CSL (CSL.AX), some of which are slightly more advanced in clinical trials.
[ID:nL4596256]

However, Glaxo has taken a lead in announcing orders.

Its vaccine includes a proprietary adjuvant -- an ingredient that boosts the
immune system response, which means that less active ingredient is needed in
each dose.

Other companies are also working with adjuvants.

Glaxo said the first supplies of its swine fluvaccine would be available to
governments from September onwards and shipments were expected to
continue through early 2010.

To ensure supplies are available to poorer countries, it has allocated 20
percent of production at its Canadian manufacturing site to developing
countries from early September.

In addition to bumper vaccine revenues, Glaxo also stands to book extra
sales of flu drug Relenza, a rival to Roche's (ROG.VX) Tamiflu.

Sales of Relenza totalled 282 million pounds in the first half of 2008 and
Glaxo is increasing annual production capacity for the inhaled medicine
threefold to 190 million treatment courses by the end of 2009. ($1=.5903
Pound) (Editing by Ben Deighton and Karen Foster)

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKL462862720090804

'Swine flu, regular flu: Do vaccinations augment sales of pychotropic and
other medicines?

Teresa Binstock
Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy
September 02, 2009

A newly published study about "Early-life programming of later-life brain
and behavior" (1) augments concern that vaccinating a pregnant woman
increases the likelihood that her fetus will experience adverse neurologic
effects.

Bilbo & Schwarz summarize an important role of cytokines as follows:
       "Given their crucial role in brain development, it is not surprising that
elevated levels of pro-infl ammatory cytokines generated by the maternal
or fetal immune system during perinatal infection have been associated with
abnormal fetal brain development and increased risk for neurodevelopmental
disorders (Cai et al., 2000; Meyer et al., 2006; Pang et al., 2003;
Richardson-Burns and Tyler, 2004; Urakubo et al., 2001; Yu et al., 2004)."

Consider several more points summarized by Bilbo & Schwarz:
A. "Increased levels of IL-6 in amniotic fluid have also been a clinically
useful marker of increased risk for neurological disorders and morbidity
(Yoon et al., 1995)". (1)
B. "Lipopolysaccharide (LPS), the cell wall component of gram-negative
bacteria, has been used to mimic infection in many studies because it initiates
a rapid and well-characterized immune response (see Wang et al., 2006 for
review)." (1)
C. "LPS markedly induces cytokine expression in the immature rat brain,
which has been linked to white matter injury and cerebral palsy (Cai et al.,
2000; Fidel et al., 1994; Golan et al., 2005; Urakubo et al., 2001)." (1)

Bilbo & Schwarz conclude their introduction by pointing out that 'tis not
pathogen-particles that cause damage to the progeny, instead the adverse
effects to the developing brain are caused by maternally produced cytokines:
     "...the strong association between infection and developmental disorders
spans a diverse number of bacterial and viral agents, suggesting a common
mechanism such as cytokine release."

Given that excesses of maternally produced cytokines can damage the
embryonic and fetal brain, the rush to vaccinate pregnant women raises
concern because, in addition to other reasons (see below) vaccinations
induce severe elevations of cytokines.

Let us be clear. For a pregnant woman, vaccination-induced neuropathy
in her embryo or fetus may occur because vaccinations induce hyper-
production of cytokines (2) which are known to alter development of the
central nervous system (1, see also 3-4). Furthermore, most seasonal flu
shots still contain thimerosal, which is 49.6% ethylmercury by weight; and
most swine-flu shots will contain thimerosal even as many may also contain
a squalene adjuvant, which hyperstimulates immunity and which was
identified as etiologically significant in many cases of rheumatoid pathologies
associated with Gulf War Syndrome (9).

Despite CDC and FDA belittlements, thimerosal injected by physicians
and nurses adds neurologic risk to fetus and embryo. For instance, a study
published last year reported that boys who had received thimerosal
injections were 9 times more likely subsequently to have received special
education services (5, see also 6-7). Previously, a CDC team in 1999
found thimerosal injections to be associated with autism, PDD, tics, speech
problems, language disorders, etc (Verstraeten et al 1999; see 12-13).
How many medications had sales enhanced as a result of brain development
and behavior tweaked by vaccinal cytokines, by thimerosal and aluminum, etc?

Squalene is a naturally occurring molecule that, when injected as an adjuvant
in vaccines, hyperstimulates immunity and (in many individuals) has created
autoimmunity against brain and other tissues having endogenous squalene as
a component. MF59 is a squalene-based adjuvant patented by Novartis and
may be injected during many swine-flu vaccinations (eg, 8-11).

A further irony: according to news reports, initial testing of swine-flu
vaccinations is likely to occur with formulations not containing squalene or
thimerosal. Since the forthcoming "vaccines are safe" messages which we're
certain to hear may be based upon vaccinations containing neither thimerosal
nor squalene, messages about safety-testing of swine flu vaccinations shall
remain a scientific fiction.

Indeed, when we hear news-reported messages from the CDC and FDA
regarding safety of thimerosal, squalene, and flu shots - be they for normal flu
or for swine flu - we are well served to remember the FDA's posture in regard
to Vioxx. When FDA staffer David Graham, M.D., reported that Vioxx was
likely to have killed tens of thousand of people, top-level big-wigs wanted to
silence him, to have him fired. Fortunately, Congress intervened.

Similarly, when the CDC's team of researchers led by Verstraeten et al found
evidence of thimerosal's adverse effects, Verstraeten et al 1999 proceeded
deliberately to dilute their own data (12-13) and published a "study" based
upon that diluting (14; 2003). Subsequently, the CDC's upper-echelon
bureaucrats have failed to correct the deliberate diluting of data that would
have caused many a graduate student to be expelled from university facilities.

For these reasons, when the CDC and FDA pronounce the so-called "safety"
of swine-flu and regular-flu vaccinations, I don't know what to believe, don't
know whom to trust. But recent history tells me to be very wary of vaccine-
safety messages from the CDC and FDA. When pregnant women to endures
a vaccination-induced cytokine storm accompanied by the injecting of
thimerosal and squalene, she is likely to have put her embryo and fetus at risk.

References:

1. Early-life programming of later-life brain and behavior: a critical role for the
immune system
Staci D. Bilbo * and Jaclyn M. Schwarz
Department of Psychology and Neuroscience, Duke University, USA
{free online}
http://www.frontiersin.org/behavioralneuroscience/paper/10.3389/neuro.08/014.2009/

The immune system is well characterized for its critical role in host defense.
Far beyond this limited role however, there is mounting evidence for the vital
role the immune system plays within the brain, in both normal, “homeostatic”
processes (e.g., sleep, metabolism, memory), as well as in pathology, when
the dysregulation of immune molecules may occur. This recognition is especially
critical in the area of brain development. Microglia and astrocytes, the primary
immunocompetent cells of the CNS, are involved in every major aspect of
brain development and function, including synaptogenesis, apoptosis, and
angiogenesis. Cytokines such as tumor necrosis factor [TNF]a, interleukin
[IL]-1ß, and IL-6 are produced by glia within the CNS, and are implicated
in synaptic formation and scaling, long-term potentiation, and neurogenesis.
Importantly, cytokines are involved in both injury and repair, and the conditions
underlying these distinct outcomes are under intense investigation and debate.
Evidence from both animal and human studies implicates the immune system in
a number of disorders with known or suspected developmental origins,
including schizophrenia, anxiety/depression, and cognitive dysfunction. We
review the evidence that infection during the perinatal period of life acts as a
vulnerability factor for later-life alterations in cytokine production, and marked
changes in cognitive and affective behaviors throughout the remainder of the
lifespan. We also discuss the hypothesis that long-term changes in brain glial
cell function underlie this vulnerability.

2. Vaccinations, cytokine storms, and autism
Teresa Binstock, Jul 11, 2009.
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090711-autism-by-cytokine-storms.htm

3. Anti-influenza vaccination of pregnant women: is the fetus effected?
Teresa Binstock, Jun 16, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090616-Anti-AntiInfluenza.htm

4. The flu shot: a brief review of anti-influenza vaccinations
Sherri Tenpenny, D.O., Jun 26, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090626-flu-shot-mediocre-efficacy.htm

5. Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children
aged 1-9 years
Gallagher C, Goodman M.
Stony Brook University Medical Center
Toxicol Environ Chem 2008 90(5):997-1008.
{free online}
http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/hep_b.pdf

This study investigated the association between vaccination with the Hepatitis B
triple series vaccine prior to 2000 and developmental disability in children aged
1-9 years (n = 1824), proxied by parental report that their child receives early
intervention or special education services (EIS). National Health and Nutrition
Examination Survey 1999-2000 data were analyzed and adjusted for survey
design by Taylor Linearization using SAS version 9.1 software, with SAS
callable SUDAAN version 9.0.1. The odds of receiving EIS were approximately
nine times as great for vaccinated boys (n = 46) as for unvaccinated boys (n = 7),
after adjustment for confounders. This study found statistically significant evidence
to suggest that boys in United States who were vaccinated with the triple series
Hepatitis B vaccine, during the time period in which vaccines were manufactured
with thimerosal, were more susceptible to developmental disability than were
unvaccinated boys.

6. Toxicity of thimerosal and other metals: a new paper: April 2009
Teresa Binstock, May 18, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090518-Toxicity-of-Thimerosal.htm

7. Autism, mercury, other toxic metals, & glutathione
Teresa Binstock, Aug 12, 2009.
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090812-autism-toxic-metals-glutathione.htm

8. Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed
by Joseph Mercola, D.O.
http://tinyurl.com/lh57v8

9. Extensive documentation about squalene's adverse effects in:
Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That's Killing Our Soldiers--
And Why GI's Are Only The First Victims
Gary Matsumoto; 2004, Basic Books.

9a. Bookfinder for used copies of Vaccine A:
http://tinyurl.com/m46n33

9b. Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Government-Experiment-Killing-Soldiers/dp/046504400X

9c. B&N
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Vaccine-A/Gary-Matsumoto/e/9780465044009

10. Adverse effects of adjuvants in vaccines
by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

11. Adjuvant Index
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/adjuvants.htm

12. Evidence of Harm
http://www.evidenceofharm.com

13. The CDC's Simpsonwood meeting...
http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/chapter2.html

14. Safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: a two-phased study of
computerized health maintenance organization databases
Verstraeten T et al. Pediatrics. 2003 Nov;112(5):1039-48.

http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090902-vaccinations-cytokines-thimerosa
l-squalene.htm

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>> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED

<quote>
Date: October 6, 2009
For Release: Immediately
Contact: FDA Press Office
(301) 796-4649

Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purchase Under PEPFAR

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) today marked
today marked the recent approval of the 100th antiretroviral drug in
association with the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
(PEPFAR), aimed at the prevention, treatment, and care of people
infected with and affected by HIV/AIDS worldwide.

The PEPFAR program is a cooperative effort that involves the Food and
Drug Administration (FDA) and other HHS agencies, the State Department's
Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator, U.S. Department of Defense,
other federal agencies, host country governments, and many other
international partners.

"This milestone exemplifies the dedication, caring, and hard work of all
who strive to better the lives of those infected with or affected by
HIV/AIDS," said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

To date, more than 100 products have been assessed by the FDA and either
fully or tentatively approved in association with the PEPFAR program. Of
these, 29 have been new products and 71 have been generic copies of
previously authorized antiretroviral products in the United States.
Twenty-two of these new products are new combinations or regimens that
have not previously been authorized in the United States. In addition,
there are seven new pediatric products considered innovative for
patients in developing economies.

"As we recognize the 100th product authorized in this program, it is
estimated that FDA's actions are allowing PEPFAR to spend $150 million
more each year on patient access to care," FDA Commissioner Margaret A.
Hamburg, M.D., told those attending an event marking the approval at the
Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) headquarters in Washington, D.C.
"I look forward to developing and expanding FDA's international
collaborations."

As of Sept. 30, 2008, the most recent figure available, PEPFAR supported
life-saving antiretroviral treatment for more than 2.1 million men,
women, and children living with HIV/AIDS. In fiscal year 2008, PEPFAR
provided nearly $1.6 billion in support of treatment programs, including
antiretroviral drugs and services.

"PEPFAR is committed to supporting partner countries to build and
maintain sustainable procurement and supply chain systems," said U.S.
Global AIDS Coordinator Eric Goosby.

Drug products used in PEPFAR receive a "tentative approval" and cannot
be approved for marketing in the United States because of existing
patents and marketing exclusivity. However, these products meet all the
FDA's manufacturing quality, clinical safety, and efficacy requirements
to produce them using the same standards as required for marketing in
this country.

FDA performs all of its reviews of applications received in association
with the PEPFAR on an expedited basis. After receiving approval or
tentative approval from FDA under this expedited process, a generic
anti-retroviral passes quickly on to the pre-qualification list
maintained by the Secretariat of the World Health Organization (WHO),
because of a confidentiality agreement that allows FDA to share data
from its evaluations with the WHO team in Geneva.

"Improving access to good quality medicinal products is a core objective
of public health efforts and one with a direct and measurable impact on
health," said Margaret Chan, M.D., director-general of WHO.
The goal of PEPFAR is to work with host nations to support treatment of
at least 3 million people, prevention of 12 million new infections, and
providing care for more than 12 million HIV-infected and affected people
by 2013. In addition, PEPFAR will support training of at least 140,000
health care workers in HIV/AIDS prevention, treatment, and care.

"We need to urgently and actively implement strategies to promote
greater affordability of both first and second line HIV/AIDS
antiretrovirals," said Mirta Roses, M.D., director of PAHO, an
international public health agency that works to improve health and
living standards in the Americas. "PEPFAR has made a tremendous
difference in the health of disadvantaged people."

For more information
PEPFAR Web site
http://www.pepfar.gov

Improving Access to HIV/AIDS Drugs Abroad
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048558.htm

###
Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are
available at
http://www.hhs.gov/news
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O.pearl - 07 Oct 2009 14:35 GMT
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> Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purcha$e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

August 24, 2009

Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
Lets hope it is safe, hey!
..
An estimated 6,000 to 10,000 hemophiliacs nationwide, became infected with
H.I.V. after receiving a tainted clotting substance made by Baxter and three
other companies in the late 1970's and early 1980's. Hundreds of victims had
sued. But statutes of limitations prevented thousands more from bringing claims.
..
Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus' London Times MON 11 MAY 1987-
http://www.wanttoknow.info/870511vaccineaids
....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

'AIDS As Biological & Psychological Warfare

by Waves Forrest

Despite repeated denials from Defense Department officials, allegations persist
that AIDS is a genetically altered virus, which has been deliberately released to
wipe out homosexuals and/or non-whites in the U.S. and reduce populations in
third world countries.

At first glance it seems like the epitome of paranoia to accuse the military of
conspiring to exterminate citizens of their own country, and even some of their
own troops. However, the vast majority of military personnel could be
completely unaware of such a plot in their midst, while a relative handful of
traitors in key positions could conduct it under cover of classified operations.
And the circumstantial evidence is actually quite compelling, that the AIDS virus
was artificially engineered, and planted in several different locations at about the
same time through vaccination programs, and possibly blood bank contamination.

At a House Appropriations hearing in 1969, the Defense Department's Biological
Warfare (BW) division requested funds to develop through gene-splicing a new
disease that would both resist and break down a victim's immune system. "Within
the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective
micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known
disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory
to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to
maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases." (See - A Higher Form
of Killing: The Secret Story of Chemical and Biological Warfare by R. Harris
and J. Paxman, p 266, Hill and Wang, pubs.) The funds were approved.

AIDS appeared within the requested time frame, and has the exact characteristics
specified.

In 1972, the World Health Organization published a similar proposal: "An attempt
should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on
immune function, e.g., by ...affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function.
The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus
itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the
cells responding to the viral antigens." (Bulletin of the W.H.O., vol. 47,
p 257-274.) This is a clinical description of the function of the AIDS virus.

The incidence of AIDS infections in Africa coincides exactly with the locations
of the W.H.O. smallpox vaccination program in the mid-1970's (London Times,
May 11, 1987). Some 14,000 Haitians then on UN secondment to Central
Africa were also vaccinated in this campaign. Personnel actually conducting the
vaccinations may have been completely unaware that the vaccine was anything
other than what they were told.

A striking feature of AIDS is that it's ethno-selective. The rate of infection is twice
as high among Blacks, Latinos and Native Americans as among whites, with death
coming two to three times as swiftly. And over 80% of the children with AIDS
and 90% of infants born with it are among these minorities. "Ethnic weapons" that
would strike certain racial groups more heavily than others have been a long-
standing U.S. Army BW objective. (Harris and Paxman, p 265)

Under the current U.S. administration biological warfare research spending has
increased 500 percent, primarily in the area of genetic engineering of new disease
organisms.

The "discovery" of the AIDS virus (HTLV3) was announced by Dr. Robert Gallo
at the National Cancer Institute, which is on the grounds of Fort Detrick, Maryland,
a primary U.S. Army biological warfare research facility. Actually, the AIDS virus
looks and acts much more like a cross between a bovine leukemia virus and a
sheep visna (brain-rot) virus, cultured in a human cell culture, than any virus of the
HTLV group.

The closest thing in this case to a "smoking test tube" so far is the AIDS virus itself.
If it was possible for such a monstrosity to occur naturally it would have done so
ages ago and decimated mankind at that time. Some other life form would presently
be in control of this planet (assuming that is not already the case).

The Hepatitis B vaccine study in 1978 appears to have been the initial means of
planting the infection in New York City. The test protocol specified non-
monogamous males only, and homosexuals received a different vaccine from
heterosexuals. At least 25-50% of the first reported New York AIDS cases in
1981 had received the Hepatitis B test vaccine in 1978. By 1984, 64% of the
vaccine recipients had AIDS, and the figures on the current infection rate for the
participants of that study are held by the U.S. Department of Justice, and
"unavailable."

The AIDS epidemic emerged full-blown in the three U.S. cities with "organized
gay communities" before being reported elsewhere, including Haiti or Africa, so
it is epidemiologically impossible for either of those countries to be the origin
point for the U.S. infections.

Another indication AIDS had multiple origin points is that the 14-month doubling
time of the disease cannot nearly account for the current number of cases if we
assume only a small number of initial infections starting in the late 1970s.

Before dismissing the possibility that a U.S. Army BW facility would participate
in genocide, bear in mind that hundreds of top Nazis were imported into key
positions in the U.S. military-intelligence establishment following WW II. U.S.
military priorities were then re-oriented from defeating Nazis to "defeating"
communism at any cost, and strengthening military control of economic and
foreign policy decisions (See - Project Paperclip by Clarence Lasby, Atheneum
214, NY, and Gehlen: Spy of the Century by E.H. Cookridge, Random House.)
There's no proof those Nazis ever gave up their long-term goals of conquest
and genocide, just because they changed countries. Fascism was and is an
international phenomenon.

It's not as if this was total reversal of previous U.S. military policy, however.
Hitler claimed to have gotten his inspiration for the "final solution" from the
extermination of Native Americans in the U.S. For that matter the first example
of germ warfare in the U.S. was in 1763 when some of the European colonists
gave friendly Indians a number of blankets that had been infected with smallpox,
causing many deaths.

One indication of the actual U.S. military priorities regarding BW was the
importation of the entire Japanese germ warfare unit (#731) following WW II.
These people killed over 3000 POWs, including many Americans, in a variety
of grisly experiments, yet they were granted complete amnesty and given
American military positions in exchange for sharing their research findings with
their U.S. Army counterparts.

Consider also the callous attitude displayed by top military officials toward
veterans suffering from the after-effects of exposure to Agent Orange and
radiation from nuclear weapons tests.

In fact, since the end of WW II over 200 experimental BW tests have been
conducted on civilians and military personnel in the U.S. One example was the
test spraying from Sept. 20-26, 1950 of bacillus globigi and syraceus maracezens
over 117 square miles of the San Francisco area, causing pneumonia-like
infections in many of the residents. The family of one elderly man who died in the
test sued the government, but lost. To this day, syraceus is a leading cause of
death among the elderly in the San Francisco area. Another case was the joint
Army-CIA BW test in 1955, still classified, in which an undisclosed bacteria was
released in the Tampa Bay region of Florida, causing a dramatic increase in
whooping cough infections, including twelve deaths. A third example was the
July 7-10, 1966 release of bacteria throughout the New York subway system,
conducted by the U.S. Army's Special Operations Division. Due to the vast
number of people exposed it would virtually impossible to identify, let alone
prove, and specific health problems resulting directly from this test.

Despite the loyalty of the vast majority of U.S. military personnel toward their
country, there are clearly some military officials who have very different intentions,
and they occupy high enough positions to impose their priorities on military
programs and get away with it, so far.

The first detailed charges regarding AIDS as a BW weapon were published in
the Patriot newspaper in New Delhi, India, on July 4, 1984. It is hard to say
where the investigations of this story in the Indian press might have led, if they
had not been sidetracked by two major domestic disasters shortly thereafter:
the assassination of Indira Gandhi on Oct. 31 and the Bhopal Union Carbide
plant "accident" that killed several thousand and injured over 200,000 on Dec. 3.

The Soviet press picked up the story on October 1985, making it easy for U.S.
Defense Department spokesmen to dismiss the charges as "Soviet propaganda,"
even though many other countries carried it. The Soviets recently retracted the
charges, in the new spirit of US-USSR cooperation.

A variation on the AIDS-BW theory that is popular in far-right publications is
that AIDS was developed in Soviet laboratories for use against the U.S. An
obvious problem with this idea is that the victims of choice of a Soviet BW
attack would be anti-communists, not minorities or homosexuals, who are
generally more left-wing. The people at greatest risk from AIDS in the U.S.
are in fact the very elements most disliked by arch-conservatives. In any case,
it is simplistic to assume that one country, U.S. or USSR, is conducting this
campaign against one another. Although concealed in apparent conflicts
between nations, the real culprits are multi-national fascists on both "sides" still
bent on massive population reductions and global domination.

Other motives include the old "divide and conquer" principle; AIDS is inspiring
fear and mistrust between people, and scaring them away from relating to each
other at the basic level of sexuality. It is acting as a barrier to the attempted
cultural resurgence toward peace, love and cooperation. Of high school students
surveyed last year as to which decade they'd most like to have grown up in, 90%
chose the 60's. The last thing pro-war fascists want is another "love generation,"
especially if it is more politically sophisticated than the last one.

Apparently, homosexuals were an initial target in the U.S. because their sexual
practices would help in the rapid spread of the disease, and because it was
correctly assumed that very few non-homosexual citizens would pay much
attention during the early years of the epidemic. Also, the stigma of a
"homosexual disease" would interfere with rational analysis and discussion of
AIDS. Bear in mind that homosexuals were among the first to be exterminated
in Nazi Germany, before Jews or other minorities, so fewer citizens would object.

The details of precisely how the AIDS virus was synthesized, mass cultured, and
spread by incorporating into vaccination programs are available but fairly intricate.
It is beyond the scope of this report to present a crash course in virology,
epidemiology, genetic engineering, and the military strategies of international fascism.
Readers are encouraged to obtain and study the references cited here, and demand
a full inquiry. Those officials who are actually involved in the coverup will reveal it
by their inaction when pressed to investigate.

Evil is hard to confront, especially on the preposterous scale we have here. If
you acknowledge the presence of those who think their only hope for survival is
to kill off two thirds of all the other kinds, and their ability to manage it, you then
pretty much have to do something about it.
....'
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Happy Oyster - 07 Oct 2009 14:40 GMT
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>>>>
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>Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
>Lets hope it is safe, hey!

And, still, Carol Hubbard advertises for homeopathy...
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O.pearl - 07 Oct 2009 15:25 GMT
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>>>>>>Measles again.
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
......."  <watch>

Baxter patented the swine flu vaccine two years before outbreak of novel
swine flu virus * Austrian Baxter scientist involved in H1N1 vaccine patent
also advises WHO-
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/baxter-team-patents-the-swine-flu-vac
cine-two-years-before-swine-flu-outbreak-austrian-baxter-scientist-involved-in-h
1n1-vaccine-patent-also-advises-who/

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

>>August 24, 2009
>>
>>Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
>>Lets hope it is safe, hey!
>
> And, still, Carol Hubbard advertises for homeopathy...

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack onHomeopathy

VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

We the undersigned are outraged at the way the World Health Organization has
allowed itself to be coerced by the Sense About Science Voices of Young
Science into condemning the use of homoeopathy in developing countries.

This condemnation comes after what appears to be blind acceptance by WHO
of the contents of a single letter from 'young scientists' living in the UK in June.
VoYS is an offshoot of Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

WHO appears to have made no efforts at all to establish the veracity of the claims
of VoYS or to check with the homoeopaths in the named countries on what they
are doing, their treatment policies or the results they are having in treating patients
with a wide range of conditions.

There is an increasing body of evidence in favour of homoeopathy's effectiveness.
The respondents from WHO's various departments, in their rush to fulfill the
'Young Scientists' request to condemn homoeopathy, apparently are not aware
of, or have chosen to overlook, the positive results of many research studies.

A recent high quality trial by the prestigious, WHO qualified facility, the Finlay
Institute in Cuba, involving two and a half million people, found homoeopathy to
be extremely effective in the prevention of Leptospirosis (Dr. Concepción Campa
Huergo report to Finlay Institute 'Nosodes 2008 conference' December 2008,
to be published).

A trial conducted by Quebec homoeopathy organization in partnership with
McGill University in Honduras found homoeopathy effective in preventing and
treating parasitic Chagas disease (Martine Jourde report to Finlay Institute
'Nosode 2008 conference' December 2008).

Three studies that show homoeopathy is effective in the treatment of childhood
diarrhea. Furthermore, counter to the uninformed claim of Joe Martines, on
behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, WHO Department of Child and
Adolescent Health and Development, rehydration was included in the protocol
of the trials (See below).

A pilot study in Ghana showing homoeopathic treatment equal to and slightly
more effective than chloroquine in the treatment of acute malaria (Br Homoeopath
J 1996Apr;85(2):66-70).

The Stanford study treating tuberculosis in HIV patients resulted in significant
improvement in patients receiving homeopathic immunotherapy (Stanford,
Comm Br Hom Res Grp Dec 1992 22 30-9).

Furthermore, the WHO department directors have ignored the rich and well
documented history of homoeopathy's success in treating major worldwide
epidemics of cholera, influenza (including the 1918 epidemic), yellow fever and
many other serious epidemics. Homoeopathy has a well developed approach
to epidemics which mean homoeopaths can respond rapidly to an epidemic
infectious disease.  In light of these and more studies of homoeopathy and the
extreme challenge of emerging drug resistant epidemics in developing countries,
it is cause for wonder why WHO itself has not sponsored research into
homoeopathy treatment.

Homoeopaths operate in a complementary way to conventional medicine, they
do not recommend stopping any prescribed conventional medicines.  Treatment
results of patients in the developing countries where homoeopathy is used are
impressive. Patients are happier and healthier and despite the constraints of lack
of funding from established research foundations, studies are being undertaken
and proving homoeopathy's effectiveness.

In 2005 the World Health Organization proposed an extremely positive report
on homoeopathy and its potential in the developing world noting that it is cost
effective, has no side effects, and above all is positively health enhancing.  It was
only after pressure from critics of Complementary and Alternative medicine to
revise it, that the report was held back and despite considerable revision it has
still not been published.

The VoYS has issued a press release to the media that widely publicises the
statements from the WHO Departmental Heads. VoYS has stated that they will
be contacting the Health Ministries of every country to tell them of the opinion
of WHO and discourage the use of homoeopathy in order to accomplish their
mission to stopping the use of homoeopathy altogether.   VoYS has presented
the communication from WHO as a public announcement from WHO and as a
way to pressure countries to alter their internal health policies.

Is this the intention of WHO ?  Does WHO condone other organizations speaking
and acting on its behalf in such a way??

We have several questions for WHO.

How can you allow your organisation to appear to condemn homoeopathy on
the basis of one letter by an antagonistic lobby that receives funding from the
pharmaceutical industry and without first checking the facts?

How can you reverse your own previous recommendations without verification
and dialogue?

Why when all over the world doctors, scientists and patients are choosing
homoeopathy because of their positive experience in regaining health, does
WHO decide to condemn homoeopathy?   How is the WHO statement and
the subsequent contact by VoYS to be received by countries such as India,
where homoeopathy doctors have a long and respected record of treating all
diseases, including epidemics?

Why when Ministries of Health in many developing countries have responded
to the requests of their own citizens to make homoeopathy a registered medicine,
does WHO choose to lend their authority to the dedicated campaign of an anti-
homoeopathy group located in the UK?

The citizens of Switzerland recently voted in a national referendum to include
homoeopathy as one of their medical choices.  Should the poor sick of Ghana,
Botswana, Swaziland, Tanzania, Brazil, Cuba, Thailand and other developing
countries, living in rural areas with little or no access to other medicines, be
deprived of this safe and affordable choice?   How can WHO allow, through
the contents of one arbitrary letter, removal of freedom of choice from the
people who need it most?  Is this not an issue of basic human rights?

The VoYS press release, which was further distorted by the BBC, has gone to
the media throughout the world under the headline of "WHO Warns Developing
Countries against Homoeopathy." This is a deliberately inflammatory, malicious
and false declaration that appears to have the backing of WHO.  As a role
model of good health and disease treatment to the world, we appeal to WHO
not to let commercial powers and vested interests of a small vocal group influence
your stated goal of bringing the "highest possible level of health" to all the people
of the world.

We urge you to reverse your premature and apparently unconsidered
condemnation of homoeopathy --a safe, effective and cost-effective therapeutic
option for developing countries.

Please give health a chance!

Yours truly

"Homoeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method of
treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical and most complete
medical science."  Mahatma Gandhi

3 Research studies childhood diarrhoea: Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea
in Nicaragua
This trial involved 81 children aged from 6 months to 5 years in a randomised,
double-blind trial of intravenous fluids plus placebo versus intravenous fluids plus
homoeopathic remedy individualised to the patient. The treatment group had a
statistically significant decrease in duration of diarrhoea.
Jacobs J. Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea with homoeopathic medicine:
a randomized clinical trial in Nicaragua. Pediatrics 1994; 93: 719-725.

Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea, repeated in Nepal
In a replication of a trial carried out in Nicaragua in 1994, 116 Nepalese children
aged 6 months to 5 years suffering from diarrhoea were given an individualised
homoeopathic medicine or placebo. Treatment by homoeopathy showed a
significant improvement in the condition in comparison to placebo.
Jacobs J., Jimenez M., Malthouse S., Chapman E., Crothers D., Masuk M.,
Jonas W.B., Acute Childhood Diarrhoea- A Replication., Journal of Alternative
and Complementary Medicine, 6, 2000, 131-139.

A meta-analysis of childhood diarrhoea trials
This meta-analysis of 242 children showed a highly significant result in the
duration of childhood diarrhoea (P=0.008).
J. Jacobs, WB Jonas, M Jimenez-Perez, D Crothers, Homoeopathy for
Childhood Diarrhea: Combined Results and Meta-analysis from Three
Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial, The Pediatric Infectious Disease
Journal, 22 (3): 229-234, March 2003.

Homeopathic treatment of patients with chronic sinusitis: A prospective
observational study with 8 years follow-up  27th July 2009
Witt, Ludtke, Willich.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6815/9/7

Homeopathic Individualized Q-potencies versus Fluoxetine for Moderate
to Severe Depression: Double-blind, Randomized Non-inferiority Trial
U. C. Adler, N. M. P. Paiva, A. T. Cesar, M. S. Adler, A. Molina, A. E.
Padula and H. M. Calil
eCAM Advance Access published online on August 17, 2009
http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

http://www.similima.com/gen244.html
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 06:33 GMT
>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>......."  <watch>

That is a rather insane attack.

If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal. AND it does in no way mean, that the
naturopathic mafia were better!
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 14:00 GMT
>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That is a rather insane attack.

How so?

> If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
> criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
> nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal.

Suggest you go back and read everything you've evaded from the start.

> AND it does in no way mean, that the naturopathic mafia were better!

There's no such thing.
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 15:42 GMT
>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>There's no such thing.

Each mafioso says so.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 17:22 GMT
>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Each mafioso says so.

Really.

Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103910583526
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 17:46 GMT
>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Really.

Sure.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 17:55 GMT
>>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Sure.

Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103910583526
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 18:05 GMT
>>>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]

You still do not get it? Better read this:

http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=4187
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This is a website I should have plugged before - it’s called whatstheharm.net.
As the name implies, it is an answer to those “shruggies” who do not see
unscientific or fraudulent medicine as a problem. The site catalogues cases of
people harmed by so-called alternative medicine treatments. Most of the cases
are due to refusing standard treatment as a result of misplaced faith in
unconventional treatment.

For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
avoidable death.

I was reminded of this site by a recent case of a man who was convicted and will
spend 6 month in jail for injuring his daughter. He decided to treat her with
bogus supplements rather than seek appropriate medical care, resulting in her
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 19:15 GMT
..
>>>>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> You still do not get it? Better read this:

Trawl through that mess.  No.  If you've got a point, make it.

> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
> avoidable death.

'Death rate extrapolations for USA for Asthma: 5,637 per year,
469 per month, 108 per week, 15 per day, ..
..'
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/asthma/stats.htm

But, sure, underlying causes must be investigated and eliminated. e.g:

'Allergy to cereals and dairy products in adult, uncomplicated asthma:
an epidemiological survey.
..
The results suggest that allergy to cereals and dairy products may often
be underestimated in adult asthmatics especially when positive reactions
to inhalants are also present.
..'
http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_7211628-allergy-cereals-dairy-produc
ts-adult-uncomplicated-asthma.htm


'Asthma explained by common allergy to milk and dairy products

The link between asthma and cows' milk is familiar to many young asthma
sufferers and their parents. I first became aware of the connection through
my cousin's experiences with his four-year-old son. Since infancy, my
cousin's son has experienced severe asthma attacks and has been hospitalized
twice for asthma-related pneumonia. When his asthma attacks become more
frequent or more severe, my cousin and his wife respond by temporarily
eliminating milk and milk products from his diet, and it usually works. I always
assumed that milk worsened his asthma by stimulating mucus production in his
lungs. However, studies suggest that, either along with or instead of creating
excess mucus, milk may worsen asthma due to an undiagnosed milk allergy.

"In all respiratory conditions, mucous-forming dairy foods, such as milk and
cheese, can exacerbate clogging of the lungs and should be avoided," writes
Professor Gary Null in his Complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing. Very
simply, when more mucus accumulates in the lungs than can be expelled,
asthma attacks develop. This belief has long been held in practiced medicine,
and many medical doctors still stand behind this theory.

At the same time, many other doctors and researchers are now beginning to
feel that undiagnosed milk allergies may be the underlying problem behind the
link between milk and asthma. As Dr. Robert M. Giller writes in Natural
Prescriptions, eliminating dairy products from the diets of many adult and
child asthma patients helps "not because dairy products stimulate mucus
production but because they're very common causes of allergy, upper-
respiratory allergies and asthma (which may be an allergy in itself)."

"Milk is one of the two or three most common food allergens in the American
diet," says allergy specialist Dr. James Braly in Bill Gottlieb's book Alternative
Cures. In fact, Dr. Frank Oski, the chief of pediatrics at the John Hopkins
School of Medicine, believes that 50 percent of all schoolchildren may be
allergic to milk, though many of them remain undiagnosed. Some researchers
believe that the figure may be even higher, up to 60 percent of children,
according to Dr. Charles R. Attwoods's book, A Vegetarian Doctor Speaks
Out. When most people think of milk allergies, they think of anaphylactic
shock -- a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction that can only be relieved
with a shot of epinephrine. However, allergies sometimes manifest in very
different ways, and these may change throughout a person's life.

In Get Healthy Now, Professor Null explains a milk allergy's changing
symptoms: "Even if the symptoms are not the same, the underlying allergy may
be. A child who has suffered milk-associated asthma, for instance, may have
severe acne as a teenager. The milk allergy is still there, but its symptoms have
moved to a different organ system, often misleading the patient and physician
into thinking that the original allergy has been outgrown." According to
Alternative Medicine, up to half of all infants may be sensitive to cows' milk.
As a result, symptoms of an underlying milk allergy may start as early as
infancy, only manifested as eczema, a symptom that may remain later on in
childhood and adulthood. Furthermore, in addition to asthma and eczema, an
underlying milk allergy may manifest as bronchitis, sinusitis, autoimmune
disorders, frequent colds and ear infections and even behavioral problems.
..
When I was in medical school, I read a book by a physician who had had
good results in treating asthma in children by eliminating all milk and dairy
products. When I discussed the book with my professors, they said it was
nonsense. I guess there are still people around who discredit the idea, but
I've found that eliminating milk and cheese from the diet can be helpful for
both asthmatic adults and children. This is not because dairy products
stimulate mucus production but because they're very common causes of
allergy, upper-respiratory allergies, and asthma.
Natural Prescriptions by Dr Robert M Giller, page 25
...'
http://think-aboutit.com/health/Asthmaxplainedbycommonallergytomilkanddairyprodu
cts.htm

Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 19:20 GMT
>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>> avoidable death.

Homeopathy is fraud.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 19:40 GMT
>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>>> avoidable death.

Continual evasion noted, mafioso.

> Homeopathy is fraud.

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack on Homeopathy

VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

We the undersigned are outraged at the way the World Health Organization has
allowed itself to be coerced by the Sense About Science Voices of Young
Science into condemning the use of homoeopathy in developing countries.

This condemnation comes after what appears to be blind acceptance by WHO
of the contents of a single letter from 'young scientists' living in the UK in June.
VoYS is an offshoot of Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

WHO appears to have made no efforts at all to establish the veracity of the claims
of VoYS or to check with the homoeopaths in the named countries on what they
are doing, their treatment policies or the results they are having in treating patients
with a wide range of conditions.

There is an increasing body of evidence in favour of homoeopathy's effectiveness.
The respondents from WHO's various departments, in their rush to fulfill the
'Young Scientists' request to condemn homoeopathy, apparently are not aware
of, or have chosen to overlook, the positive results of many research studies.

A recent high quality trial by the prestigious, WHO qualified facility, the Finlay
Institute in Cuba, involving two and a half million people, found homoeopathy to
be extremely effective in the prevention of Leptospirosis (Dr. Concepción Campa
Huergo report to Finlay Institute 'Nosodes 2008 conference' December 2008,
to be published).

A trial conducted by Quebec homoeopathy organization in partnership with
McGill University in Honduras found homoeopathy effective in preventing and
treating parasitic Chagas disease (Martine Jourde report to Finlay Institute
'Nosode 2008 conference' December 2008).

Three studies that show homoeopathy is effective in the treatment of childhood
diarrhea. Furthermore, counter to the uninformed claim of Joe Martines, on
behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, WHO Department of Child and
Adolescent Health and Development, rehydration was included in the protocol
of the trials (See below).

A pilot study in Ghana showing homoeopathic treatment equal to and slightly
more effective than chloroquine in the treatment of acute malaria (Br Homoeopath
J 1996Apr;85(2):66-70).

The Stanford study treating tuberculosis in HIV patients resulted in significant
improvement in patients receiving homeopathic immunotherapy (Stanford,
Comm Br Hom Res Grp Dec 1992 22 30-9).

Furthermore, the WHO department directors have ignored the rich and well
documented history of homoeopathy's success in treating major worldwide
epidemics of cholera, influenza (including the 1918 epidemic), yellow fever and
many other serious epidemics. Homoeopathy has a well developed approach
to epidemics which mean homoeopaths can respond rapidly to an epidemic
infectious disease.  In light of these and more studies of homoeopathy and the
extreme challenge of emerging drug resistant epidemics in developing countries,
it is cause for wonder why WHO itself has not sponsored research into
homoeopathy treatment.

Homoeopaths operate in a complementary way to conventional medicine, they
do not recommend stopping any prescribed conventional medicines.  Treatment
results of patients in the developing countries where homoeopathy is used are
impressive. Patients are happier and healthier and despite the constraints of lack
of funding from established research foundations, studies are being undertaken
and proving homoeopathy's effectiveness.

In 2005 the World Health Organization proposed an extremely positive report
on homoeopathy and its potential in the developing world noting that it is cost
effective, has no side effects, and above all is positively health enhancing.  It was
only after pressure from critics of Complementary and Alternative medicine to
revise it, that the report was held back and despite considerable revision it has
still not been published.

The VoYS has issued a press release to the media that widely publicises the
statements from the WHO Departmental Heads. VoYS has stated that they will
be contacting the Health Ministries of every country to tell them of the opinion
of WHO and discourage the use of homoeopathy in order to accomplish their
mission to stopping the use of homoeopathy altogether.   VoYS has presented
the communication from WHO as a public announcement from WHO and as a
way to pressure countries to alter their internal health policies.

Is this the intention of WHO ?  Does WHO condone other organizations speaking
and acting on its behalf in such a way??

We have several questions for WHO.

How can you allow your organisation to appear to condemn homoeopathy on
the basis of one letter by an antagonistic lobby that receives funding from the
pharmaceutical industry and without first checking the facts?

How can you reverse your own previous recommendations without verification
and dialogue?

Why when all over the world doctors, scientists and patients are choosing
homoeopathy because of their positive experience in regaining health, does
WHO decide to condemn homoeopathy?   How is the WHO statement and
the subsequent contact by VoYS to be received by countries such as India,
where homoeopathy doctors have a long and respected record of treating all
diseases, including epidemics?

Why when Ministries of Health in many developing countries have responded
to the requests of their own citizens to make homoeopathy a registered medicine,
does WHO choose to lend their authority to the dedicated campaign of an anti-
homoeopathy group located in the UK?

The citizens of Switzerland recently voted in a national referendum to include
homoeopathy as one of their medical choices.  Should the poor sick of Ghana,
Botswana, Swaziland, Tanzania, Brazil, Cuba, Thailand and other developing
countries, living in rural areas with little or no access to other medicines, be
deprived of this safe and affordable choice?   How can WHO allow, through
the contents of one arbitrary letter, removal of freedom of choice from the
people who need it most?  Is this not an issue of basic human rights?

The VoYS press release, which was further distorted by the BBC, has gone to
the media throughout the world under the headline of "WHO Warns Developing
Countries against Homoeopathy." This is a deliberately inflammatory, malicious
and false declaration that appears to have the backing of WHO.  As a role
model of good health and disease treatment to the world, we appeal to WHO
not to let commercial powers and vested interests of a small vocal group influence
your stated goal of bringing the "highest possible level of health" to all the people
of the world.

We urge you to reverse your premature and apparently unconsidered
condemnation of homoeopathy --a safe, effective and cost-effective therapeutic
option for developing countries.

Please give health a chance!

Yours truly

"Homoeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method of
treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical and most complete
medical science."  Mahatma Gandhi

3 Research studies childhood diarrhoea: Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea
in Nicaragua
This trial involved 81 children aged from 6 months to 5 years in a randomised,
double-blind trial of intravenous fluids plus placebo versus intravenous fluids plus
homoeopathic remedy individualised to the patient. The treatment group had a
statistically significant decrease in duration of diarrhoea.
Jacobs J. Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea with homoeopathic medicine:
a randomized clinical trial in Nicaragua. Pediatrics 1994; 93: 719-725.

Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea, repeated in Nepal
In a replication of a trial carried out in Nicaragua in 1994, 116 Nepalese children
aged 6 months to 5 years suffering from diarrhoea were given an individualised
homoeopathic medicine or placebo. Treatment by homoeopathy showed a
significant improvement in the condition in comparison to placebo.
Jacobs J., Jimenez M., Malthouse S., Chapman E., Crothers D., Masuk M.,
Jonas W.B., Acute Childhood Diarrhoea- A Replication., Journal of Alternative
and Complementary Medicine, 6, 2000, 131-139.

A meta-analysis of childhood diarrhoea trials
This meta-analysis of 242 children showed a highly significant result in the
duration of childhood diarrhoea (P=0.008).
J. Jacobs, WB Jonas, M Jimenez-Perez, D Crothers, Homoeopathy for
Childhood Diarrhea: Combined Results and Meta-analysis from Three
Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial, The Pediatric Infectious Disease
Journal, 22 (3): 229-234, March 2003.

Homeopathic treatment of patients with chronic sinusitis: A prospective
observational study with 8 years follow-up  27th July 2009
Witt, Ludtke, Willich.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6815/9/7

Homeopathic Individualized Q-potencies versus Fluoxetine for Moderate
to Severe Depression: Double-blind, Randomized Non-inferiority Trial
U. C. Adler, N. M. P. Paiva, A. T. Cesar, M. S. Adler, A. Molina, A. E.
Padula and H. M. Calil
eCAM Advance Access published online on August 17, 2009
http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

http://www.similima.com/gen244.html
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 19:51 GMT
>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>> Homeopathy is fraud.

Homeopathy is fraud.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 19:57 GMT
>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Homeopathy is fraud.

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack on Homeopathy

VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

We the undersigned are outraged at the way the World Health Organization has
allowed itself to be coerced by the Sense About Science Voices of Young
Science into condemning the use of homoeopathy in developing countries.

This condemnation comes after what appears to be blind acceptance by WHO
of the contents of a single letter from 'young scientists' living in the UK in June.
VoYS is an offshoot of Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

WHO appears to have made no efforts at all to establish the veracity of the claims
of VoYS or to check with the homoeopaths in the named countries on what they
are doing, their treatment policies or the results they are having in treating patients
with a wide range of conditions.

There is an increasing body of evidence in favour of homoeopathy's effectiveness.
The respondents from WHO's various departments, in their rush to fulfill the
'Young Scientists' request to condemn homoeopathy, apparently are not aware
of, or have chosen to overlook, the positive results of many research studies.

A recent high quality trial by the prestigious, WHO qualified facility, the Finlay
Institute in Cuba, involving two and a half million people, found homoeopathy to
be extremely effective in the prevention of Leptospirosis (Dr. Concepción Campa
Huergo report to Finlay Institute 'Nosodes 2008 conference' December 2008,
to be published).

A trial conducted by Quebec homoeopathy organization in partnership with
McGill University in Honduras found homoeopathy effective in preventing and
treating parasitic Chagas disease (Martine Jourde report to Finlay Institute
'Nosode 2008 conference' December 2008).

Three studies that show homoeopathy is effective in the treatment of childhood
diarrhea. Furthermore, counter to the uninformed claim of Joe Martines, on
behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, WHO Department of Child and
Adolescent Health and Development, rehydration was included in the protocol
of the trials (See below).

A pilot study in Ghana showing homoeopathic treatment equal to and slightly
more effective than chloroquine in the treatment of acute malaria (Br Homoeopath
J 1996Apr;85(2):66-70).

The Stanford study treating tuberculosis in HIV patients resulted in significant
improvement in patients receiving homeopathic immunotherapy (Stanford,
Comm Br Hom Res Grp Dec 1992 22 30-9).

Furthermore, the WHO department directors have ignored the rich and well
documented history of homoeopathy's success in treating major worldwide
epidemics of cholera, influenza (including the 1918 epidemic), yellow fever and
many other serious epidemics. Homoeopathy has a well developed approach
to epidemics which mean homoeopaths can respond rapidly to an epidemic
infectious disease.  In light of these and more studies of homoeopathy and the
extreme challenge of emerging drug resistant epidemics in developing countries,
it is cause for wonder why WHO itself has not sponsored research into
homoeopathy treatment.

Homoeopaths operate in a complementary way to conventional medicine, they
do not recommend stopping any prescribed conventional medicines.  Treatment
results of patients in the developing countries where homoeopathy is used are
impressive. Patients are happier and healthier and despite the constraints of lack
of funding from established research foundations, studies are being undertaken
and proving homoeopathy's effectiveness.

In 2005 the World Health Organization proposed an extremely positive report
on homoeopathy and its potential in the developing world noting that it is cost
effective, has no side effects, and above all is positively health enhancing.  It was
only after pressure from critics of Complementary and Alternative medicine to
revise it, that the report was held back and despite considerable revision it has
still not been published.

The VoYS has issued a press release to the media that widely publicises the
statements from the WHO Departmental Heads. VoYS has stated that they will
be contacting the Health Ministries of every country to tell them of the opinion
of WHO and discourage the use of homoeopathy in order to accomplish their
mission to stopping the use of homoeopathy altogether.   VoYS has presented
the communication from WHO as a public announcement from WHO and as a
way to pressure countries to alter their internal health policies.

Is this the intention of WHO ?  Does WHO condone other organizations speaking
and acting on its behalf in such a way??

We have several questions for WHO.

How can you allow your organisation to appear to condemn homoeopathy on
the basis of one letter by an antagonistic lobby that receives funding from the
pharmaceutical industry and without first checking the facts?

How can you reverse your own previous recommendations without verification
and dialogue?

Why when all over the world doctors, scientists and patients are choosing
homoeopathy because of their positive experience in regaining health, does
WHO decide to condemn homoeopathy?   How is the WHO statement and
the subsequent contact by VoYS to be received by countries such as India,
where homoeopathy doctors have a long and respected record of treating all
diseases, including epidemics?

Why when Ministries of Health in many developing countries have responded
to the requests of their own citizens to make homoeopathy a registered medicine,
does WHO choose to lend their authority to the dedicated campaign of an anti-
homoeopathy group located in the UK?

The citizens of Switzerland recently voted in a national referendum to include
homoeopathy as one of their medical choices.  Should the poor sick of Ghana,
Botswana, Swaziland, Tanzania, Brazil, Cuba, Thailand and other developing
countries, living in rural areas with little or no access to other medicines, be
deprived of this safe and affordable choice?   How can WHO allow, through
the contents of one arbitrary letter, removal of freedom of choice from the
people who need it most?  Is this not an issue of basic human rights?

The VoYS press release, which was further distorted by the BBC, has gone to
the media throughout the world under the headline of "WHO Warns Developing
Countries against Homoeopathy." This is a deliberately inflammatory, malicious
and false declaration that appears to have the backing of WHO.  As a role
model of good health and disease treatment to the world, we appeal to WHO
not to let commercial powers and vested interests of a small vocal group influence
your stated goal of bringing the "highest possible level of health" to all the people
of the world.

We urge you to reverse your premature and apparently unconsidered
condemnation of homoeopathy --a safe, effective and cost-effective therapeutic
option for developing countries.

Please give health a chance!

Yours truly

"Homoeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method of
treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical and most complete
medical science."  Mahatma Gandhi

3 Research studies childhood diarrhoea: Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea
in Nicaragua
This trial involved 81 children aged from 6 months to 5 years in a randomised,
double-blind trial of intravenous fluids plus placebo versus intravenous fluids plus
homoeopathic remedy individualised to the patient. The treatment group had a
statistically significant decrease in duration of diarrhoea.
Jacobs J. Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea with homoeopathic medicine:
a randomized clinical trial in Nicaragua. Pediatrics 1994; 93: 719-725.

Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea, repeated in Nepal
In a replication of a trial carried out in Nicaragua in 1994, 116 Nepalese children
aged 6 months to 5 years suffering from diarrhoea were given an individualised
homoeopathic medicine or placebo. Treatment by homoeopathy showed a
significant improvement in the condition in comparison to placebo.
Jacobs J., Jimenez M., Malthouse S., Chapman E., Crothers D., Masuk M.,
Jonas W.B., Acute Childhood Diarrhoea- A Replication., Journal of Alternative
and Complementary Medicine, 6, 2000, 131-139.

A meta-analysis of childhood diarrhoea trials
This meta-analysis of 242 children showed a highly significant result in the
duration of childhood diarrhoea (P=0.008).
J. Jacobs, WB Jonas, M Jimenez-Perez, D Crothers, Homoeopathy for
Childhood Diarrhea: Combined Results and Meta-analysis from Three
Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial, The Pediatric Infectious Disease
Journal, 22 (3): 229-234, March 2003.

Homeopathic treatment of patients with chronic sinusitis: A prospective
observational study with 8 years follow-up  27th July 2009
Witt, Ludtke, Willich.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6815/9/7

Homeopathic Individualized Q-potencies versus Fluoxetine for Moderate
to Severe Depression: Double-blind, Randomized Non-inferiority Trial
U. C. Adler, N. M. P. Paiva, A. T. Cesar, M. S. Adler, A. Molina, A. E.
Padula and H. M. Calil
eCAM Advance Access published online on August 17, 2009
http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

http://www.similima.com/gen244.html
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 20:05 GMT
>>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
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>VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
>funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

That is bullshit.

Homeopathy is fraud.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 20:17 GMT
>>>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
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>
> Homeopathy is fraud.

No.  You're a terminally ignorant and very stupid dishonest evil troll.  QED.
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 20:27 GMT
>>>>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
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>
>No.  You're a terminally ignorant and very stupid dishonest evil troll.  QED.

Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 22:02 GMT
..
> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.

Evidence has already been published here, troll.  The fraud is all yours.  

'Medical News Today

Complementary Medicine / Alternative Medicine News

Homeopathy: New Evidence
Main Category: Complementary Medicine / Alternative Medicine
Also Included In: Clinical Trials / Drug Trials
Article Date: 14 Nov 2008 - 3:00 PDT
..
Due to a lack of funding, there are a limited number of homeopathic studies.
As a result, it is quite possible to interpret homeopathic data selectively and
unfavourably, which is what appears to have been done in the Lancet paper
...
This reconstruction casts serious doubts on the Lancet review, showing
that it was based on a series of hidden judgments unfavourable to
homeopathy. An open assessment of the current evidence suggests that
homeopathy is probably effective for a number of conditions including
allergies, upper respiratory tract infections and 'flu, but more research is
desperately needed.

Prof Egger has declined to comment on these findings.
..'
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/129436.php
Happy Oyster - 08 Oct 2009 22:09 GMT
>..
>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
>
>Evidence has already been published here, troll.  The fraud is all yours.  

ALL which has been published PRO homeopathy, is bullshit.

Homeopathy IS fraud.
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O.pearl - 08 Oct 2009 22:13 GMT
>>..
>>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
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>
> Homeopathy IS fraud.

WHO are you hoping to fool, troll?  You're just proving you're a joke.
Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 00:47 GMT
>>>..
>>>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
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>
>WHO are you hoping to fool, troll?  You're just proving you're a joke.

No homeopath on this earth has a chance against me. ;O)
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 12:14 GMT
>>>>..
>>>>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
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>
> No homeopath on this earth has a chance against me. ;O)

Just Get Your Damn Vaccine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzy2UHwN9zs&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-HM
Steelclaws - 09 Oct 2009 12:29 GMT
> >>..
> >>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> WHO are you hoping to fool, troll?  You're just proving you're a joke.
Steelclaws - 09 Oct 2009 16:07 GMT
> > ALL which has been published PRO homeopathy, is bullshit.
>
> > Homeopathy IS fraud.
>
> WHO are you hoping to fool, troll?  You're just proving you're a joke.

http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 16:46 GMT
> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
study on the frequency of medical errors.

Researchers examined a random sample of charts over a year at one teaching
hospital, one large community hospital, and two small community hospitals in
each of five provinces, including B.C.

There were no psychiatric or obstetric patients in the study, which took place
over the fiscal year 2000,

The researchers discovered that 7.5 percent of patients experienced at least
one "adverse event", and 36.9 percent of these adverse events were
considered "highly preventable".

Extrapolating the results suggested that adverse events were linked to
between 141,250 and 232,250 admissions to Canadian acute-care hospitals
that year.

The study also reported that 9,250 to 23,750 preventable deaths occurred.

You read that correctly: up to 23,750 preventable deaths took place in
acute-care hospitals in Canada in a single year, according to the CMAJ study.

In 2007, the CMAJ published another troubling study, this time by University
of Toronto medical professor Wendy Levinson and University of Washington
associate professor of medicine Thomas Gallagher.

They reported that "adverse events", including errors, occur frequently in
health care.

"Disclosing errors to patients is challenging for both physicians and health
care institutions," they wrote. "Recent studies suggest that harmful medical
errors are infrequently disclosed to patients and, despite a malpractice
environment that is less onerous than in many countries, Canadian patients
are no more likely to be informed about harmful errors than patients
elsewhere."

Last week, the Georgia Straight published an article on homeopathy, which
is an alternative approach commonly used in Germany, India, and other
countries. We published a disclaimer at the bottom of the piece saying it
didn't necessarily reflect the views of the paper.

For that, we've been pilloried by some readers and members of a local
skeptics' group, even though there is no evidence that homeopathic
remedies have any dangerous side effects.

As I read the comments from outraged readers, I asked myself: "Do these
people ever raise their voices in protest against the frequency of medical
errors, which actually kill people? Do they ask what the B.C. government
or the College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C. are doing about this
situation? Or do they just get in an uproar about alternative health treatments?"

The medical community loves its peer-reviewed research, which is often
underwritten by drug companies. But when Toronto physician Nancy Olivieri
tried to publish some of her research that threatened the industry's profits, she
was shut down.

The reality is that some people doubt the effectiveness of flu vaccines because
the virus mutates so rapidly. Some wonder if their vaccine will have any efficacy
against the particular flu virus that they might contract months down the road.

Some of these flu-vaccine skeptics might be inclined to consider homeopathy
as an alternative.  

Judging from the CMAJ-published research, the biggest threat to human
health isn't homeopathy; it's that trip to your local hospital.

..

Right on Charlie Smith.

And to the hysterical others:
Homeopathy doing a lot more harm than good? Ridiculous-

In the United States alone over 50,000 people were injured or killed by
Vioxx alone- that is number that settled the class action law suit

The FDA conservatively estimated that 27,000 plus people were killed
by this one drug.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/vioxx_estimates.html

Now statins are on the line and on and on it goes. Instead of all the hysteria
about homeopathy treatment why not spend some of your obviously too
much spare time dealing with the problem with drugs and conventional
medical problems described in this article. A little more oversight there is in
order.

There is something very unbalanced by all this attack on homeopathy.
..'
http://www.straight.com/article-258584/medical-error-lot-more-dangerous-homeopathy

More information in the comments section.  Also see my previous posts.
O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 16:58 GMT
Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed

Tens of thousands of vulnerable dementia patients are being prescribed
'chemical cosh' drugs in hospital wards in a 'scandalous abuse' of the elderly,
ten leading health organisations have said in a letter to The Daily Telegraph.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 7:40AM BST 07 Oct 2009

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year Photo: GETTY

Three quarters of nurses have seen people with dementia in general wards in
hospital prescribed antipsychotic drugs that are known to double the risk of
death and triple the risk of a stroke in these patients, research has shown.

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year.

Related Articles
Dementia 'tsars' planned
Chemical coshes 'double the chance of Alzheimer's patients dying'
Half of nursing home residents 'wrongly drugged'
Use of 'chemical cosh' drugs in dementia patients triple risk of stroke
Doctors giving anti-psychotics to dementia sufferers 'should be prosecuted'

Sedatives 'killing 23,000 Alzheimer's victims a year'Ten leading charities, carers
groups and experts have written to The Daily Telegraph saying: "We cannot
stand by while this scandalous abuse of vulnerable citizens continues."

Neil Hunt, Chief Executive of Alzheimer's Society said: "The massive over
prescription of antipsychotics to people with dementia is an abuse of human
rights, causing serious side effects and increasing risk of death. These powerful
drugs should only be used in a small number of cases. The Government must
take action to ensure that these drugs are only ever used as a last resort."

They have called on the government to publish its long-overdue review of the
use of antipsychotics which ministers promised would be out in May of this
year.

Rebecca Wood, Chief Executive of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said:
"While the Department of Health prevaricates, thousands of people are being
put at risk through the misuse of antipsychotics."

There are 700,000 people in Britain with dementia and the numbers are rising
rapidly.

Antipsychotics have a sedative effect and are not licensed for use in dementia
but are prescribed when patients become agitated or difficult and often then
are left on them for long periods.

A survey by the Alzheimer's Society of over 1,000 nurses and nurse managers
working on general wards in hospitals found more than three quarters said
antipsychotics were used always or sometimes and one quarter said that the
drugs were used inappropriately.

Mr Hunt said the numbers of patients prescribed the drugs in hospital is likely
to be in the order of tens of thousands.

The letter to The Daily Telegraph reads: "100,000 people with dementia in care
homes are being inappropriately prescribed a damaging chemical cosh of
antipsychotic drugs and new research suggests that there is a significant problem
in hospitals too.

"Antipsychotics should only ever be a last resort. This over prescription is abuse
and it must stop.

"The government must urgently publish its plans to tackle the overuse of
antipsychotics. These plans must deliver better support for people with dementia
and those working with them as well as cracking down on inappropriate
prescribing practice.

"We need to make good care the norm and move away from resorting to
dangerous drugs which can increase confusion and the risk of premature death.
We must all work together to improve dementia care.

"We cannot stand by while this scandalous abuse of vulnerable citizens continues."

....'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6264962/Scandalous-abuse-of-the-eld
erly-prescribed-antipsychotics-in-hospital-exposed.html

Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 18:23 GMT
>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

Yes, homeopathy is sh.t.
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 20:42 GMT
>>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed

Tens of thousands of vulnerable dementia patients are being prescribed
'chemical cosh' drugs in hospital wards in a 'scandalous abuse' of the elderly,
ten leading health organisations have said in a letter to The Daily Telegraph.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 7:40AM BST 07 Oct 2009

Three quarters of nurses have seen people with dementia in general wards in
hospital prescribed antipsychotic drugs that are known to double the risk of
death and triple the risk of a stroke in these patients, research has shown.

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year.

Related Articles
Dementia 'tsars' planned
Chemical coshes 'double the chance of Alzheimer's patients dying'
Half of nursing home residents 'wrongly drugged'
Use of 'chemical cosh' drugs in dementia patients triple risk of stroke
Doctors giving anti-psychotics to dementia sufferers 'should be prosecuted'
Sedatives 'killing 23,000 Alzheimer's victims a year'
....'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6264962/Scandalous-abuse-of-the-eld
erly-prescribed-antipsychotics-in-hospital-exposed.html


> Yes, homeopathy is sh.t.

'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource

Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist and joint recipient with
Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize
in Physiology or Medicine for his co-discovery of the Human Immunodeficiency
Virus (HIV).

He and  his team of researchers have been doing rigorous experiments using
homeopathically prepared biological substances. They have conclusively shown
that homeopathically prepared biological substances give off electromagnetic
waves and therefore have effects.

"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
dilutions as high as 10(-18) (equivalent to 18X).  The EM signature changed
with dilution levels but was unaffected by the initial concentration and remained
even after the remaining DNA fragments were destroyed by chemical agents.

Of additional interest was the researchers' observation that they observed the
SAME results whether their initial concentration of cells were just 10 or 10(9)
(this is 10 to the 9th power = 10,000,000,000 cells)."

Click here for the full report from Dana Ullman MPH

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http://homeopathyresource.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/2008-nobel-prize-winner-prove
s-homeopathic-remedies-are-active/

Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 21:34 GMT
>>>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....
>
>'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed

That is a rather stupid approach. Because psychiatry and psychology to a great
extent are as insane and criminal as is naturopathy.
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 23:02 GMT
>>>>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....
>>
>>'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed
>
> That is a rather stupid approach. Because psychiatry and psychology to a great
> extent are as insane and criminal as is naturopathy.

I can see why you feel such aversion.  You support this criminal insanity:

'Tens of thousands of vulnerable dementia patients are being prescribed
'chemical cosh' drugs in hospital wards in a 'scandalous abuse' of the elderly,
ten leading health organisations have said in a letter to The Daily Telegraph.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 7:40AM BST 07 Oct 2009

Three quarters of nurses have seen people with dementia in general wards in
hospital prescribed antipsychotic drugs that are known to double the risk of
death and triple the risk of a stroke in these patients, research has shown.

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year.

Related Articles
Dementia 'tsars' planned
Chemical coshes 'double the chance of Alzheimer's patients dying'
Half of nursing home residents 'wrongly drugged'
Use of 'chemical cosh' drugs in dementia patients triple risk of stroke
Doctors giving anti-psychotics to dementia sufferers 'should be prosecuted'
Sedatives 'killing 23,000 Alzheimer's victims a year'
....'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6264962/Scandalous-abuse-of-the-eld
erly-prescribed-antipsychotics-in-hospital-exposed.html

Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 18:20 GMT
>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>
>'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
>study on the frequency of medical errors.

The worst mistake is not to delicense all who apply homeopathy.
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 20:42 GMT
>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>
>>'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
>>study on the frequency of medical errors.
>
> The worst mistake is not to delicense all who apply homeopathy.

"Drawing upon the extensive use of homeopathy by historical figures, founders
of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution
documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
breakthroughs in the biological and clinical effects of nanopharmacology, it is
a certainty that homeopathy has an evolving scientific foundation in the
Integrative Medicine of the future."
- Kenneth R. Pelletier, PhD, MD
Author, The Best Alternative Medicine: What Works? What Does Not?
Former Clinical Professor of Medicine, Stanford University School of Medicine;
Presently, Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Arizona;
Director of the Corporate Health Improvement Program which is a research
program including such Fortune 500 companies as Corning, IBM, Dow,
Ford, Nestle, and NASA.

"The pharmaceutic industry will hate this book almost as much as the AMA.
KUDOS, Dana Ullman, for providing the foundations for a broader
understanding of this far safer approach to health."
- C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D.
Neurosurgeon and Pain Management Specialist
Founding President, American Holistic Medical Association
President, Holos University Graduate Seminary

"Homeopathy is perhaps the most misunderstood area of medicine, evoking
passions pro and con. In THE HOMEOPATHIC REVOLUTION, Dana
Ullman, one of the world's foremost authorities, illuminates this field for
laypersons and professionals alike. Like a medical detective, Ullman probes
the corners of history and science in a delightful, fascinating romp. Highly
recommended."
- Larry Dossey, MD
Author, The Extraordinary Healing Power of Ordinary Things

"How do we reconcile the fact that the American Medical Association has
long held homeopathy to be worthless, when so many people have reported
that they found help for their ills in homeopathy? The AMA responds that
patients are unqualified to evaluate the treatment they receive. I think that
attitude is phenomenally patronizing, and I think that Dana Ullman has done
us a major service in showing that many of the smartest and most successful
people in recent history have publicly expressed appreciation for the benefits
they have received from homeopathy."
- John Robbins, Author of Diet For A New America, and Healthy At 100.

"Several Harvard-affiliated physicians have told me in private conversation
that homeopathy has helped their family members or friends, but they would
not want to say so publicly due to fear of ridicule. Hopefully, this book will
help open-minded doctors and scientists to realize they are not alone and to
have the courage to call for more research on this most interesting and
paradoxical form of treatment."
- David Anick PhD MD
Research Associate, McLean Hospital
Harvard Medical School

"Dana Ullman takes the reader from the origins of homeopathy as a 19th
century system of medicine into a 21st century science. Through this
fascinating ride of medical history, he shows us that many of the world's most
famous and respected people of the past 200 years have advocated for and
appreciated this other approach to medicine. I am personally amazed that so
many of my cultural heroes have benefited from this misunderstood science
and healing art. Homeopathy deserves a definitive place in health care today."
- Leonard A. Wisneski, MD, FACP,
An endocrinologist and Clinical Professor of Medicine at George Washington
University Medical Center;
Adjunct Faculty in the Department of Physiology and Biophysics at Georgetown
University;
Authored over 30 scientific articles and a textbook, The Scientific Basis of
Integrative Medicine.

"Through this fascinating ride through medical history, we see that many of the
world's most famous and respected people of the past 200 years have
advocated for and appreciated this "other" school of medicine. As the interest
in alternative approaches to medicine continues to multiply, Ullman's The
Homeopathic Revolution provides an absolutely compelling case for the past,
present and future of this potent approach to health and healing."
- Ken Dychtwald, Ph.D.
Author, Bodymind, Healthy Aging, Age Wave, Age Power,
Consultant to many Fortune 500 Companies

http://www.homeopathicrevolution.com/
Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 21:39 GMT
>>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>"Drawing upon the extensive use of homeopathy by historical figures, founders
>of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution

That is bullshit.

We know *who* is actually responsible
for "The Rise of Autoimmune and Other
Diseases in Adults": it is the homeopaths!

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Lymphadenitis und Lymphangitis
Mastitis
Milchschorf
Nephritis und Nephrose
Neuralgie
Neuritis
Ohrensausen
Osteomalacie und Osteomyelitis
Otitis media
Ozaena
Paradentose
Parotitis
Phlebitis
Phlegmone
Proktitis
Prostatahypertrophie und Prostatitis
Ptyalismus
Pyelitis und Pyelonephritis
Reizblase
Scarlatina
Seborrhoe
Septische Prozesse
multiple Sklerose
Soor
Stomatitis
Sykosis
Tabes dorsales
Tonsillarabszeß
Trigeminusneuralgie
Urethritis
Zahnkaries
Zahnschmerzen
Was haben die oben genannten Krankheiten/Beschwerden/Symptome mit einander
gemein?
Das können Sie herausfinden zum Beispiel mit einem kleinen Buch mit dem Titel
"Homöopathisches Repetitorium"

Arzneimittellehre in Tabellenform
Herausgegeben von der Deutschen Homöopathie-Union
Pharmazeutisch überarbeitet
Nachdruck

Deutsche Homöopathie-Union . Karlsruhe
Dort finden Sie (in der Ausgabe von 1994 ab Seite 318) ein "Register der
Hauptindikationen".
Was stellen Sie fest?: Alle oben genannten Krankheiten/Beschwerden/Symptome
werden von Homöopathen mit Quecksilber
"behandelt"...
Quecksilber, ein Gift, vor dem überall gewarnt wird, ausgerechnet QUECKSILBER
soll in Medikamenten sein? Ja, es ist. Leider.
Überzeugen Sie sich selbst!
Einen kleinen Hinweis möchte ich Ihnen bei der Suche nach dem Buch geben:
Dieses Repetitorium
ist nur zur Abgabe
an Fachkreise bestimmt
Dieser Vermerk befindet sich auf der 2. Umschlagseite.
Warum dieses? Vielleicht, weil die Patienten sonst dahinterkommen könnten, was
ihnen zugemutet wird?
Im Detail handelt es sich um folgende Formen/Verbindungen von Quecksilber:
(Die Seitenzahl bezieht sich auf die Ausgabe von 1994, aus der die Daten
entnommen sind)
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
Tabelle 2
Mercurius bijodatus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Mercurius jodatus ruber
Hydrargyrum bijodatum rubrum
Quecksilberjodid

HgJ2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
SV Lösung = D3

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D4, D6, D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6, D8, D15

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei Anginen und Adnexitis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen, Adnexe, im übrigen wie bei Mercurius solubilis.

Anginen im akuten und chronischen Stadium, besonders wenn die
regionären Lymphdrüsen stark geschwollen sind. In diesem Fall
gutes Unterstützungsmittel der Serumtherapie bei Diphterie. Bei
chronischer Tonsillenhyperplasie täglich 2 Tabletten D4 für etwa
6 Wochen. Ferner gut wirksam bei akuter und subakuter Adnexitis.

AMB und Leitsymptome wie unter Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius cyanatus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Hydrargyrum cyanatum
Mercuricyanid
Quecksilbercyanid
Hg(CN)2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
Lösung = D2

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei der malignen Diphterie oder Angina und deren Komplikationen.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen und Mundhöhle, Leber und Nieren.

Mercurius cyanatus gehört zu den hochtoxischen Hg-Verbindungen.
Neben der Serumtherapie ist es besonders zur zusätzlichen
Behandlung bei Diphterie oder schwerer Angina zu empfehlen,
wenn diese Krankheiten einen malignen Charakter mit starken
Nekrosen oder Gangraeneszenz annehmen und offensichtlich auf
die parenchymatösen Organe, besonders Leber und Niere, toxisch
zu streuen scheinen. Vorsichtige Dosierung! Mercurius cyanatus D6
genügt meist. Eventuell mit Lachesis Amp. D8 bis D12 oder
Chinacea (Urtinktur) kombinieren. Das AMB entspricht im übrigen
dem von Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius dulcis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Calomel
Mercurius chloratus
Hydrargyrum chloratum
Quecksilberchlorür
Hg2Cl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4,D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8

Hepatopathie, Hepatitis, Cholecystitis, Ikterus, akute
Gastoenteritis, Metalues.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Leber, gallenblase, Darm, Bindegewebe.

Mercurius dulcis ist bei passendem AMB (siehe unter Mercurius
solubilis) besonders wirksam in der D4 - D6 bei den
nebenstehenden Indikationen. Metaluetische Prozesse erfordern
täglich 3mal 1 Tablette D2 in Kombination mit Kalium jodatum Dil
D1 täglich 3mal 10 Tropfen.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius solubilis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius solubilis Hahnemanni
Hydrargyrum oxydulatum nigrum Hahnemanni
Ein Gemenge, das im wesentlichen Mercuroamidonitrat = NH2Hg2NO3,
metallisches Hg und Quecksilber(I)oxid Hg2O enthält.

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D6, D12, D3
Dil                     : D8
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8, D10, D12, D15 und höher

Schleimhautentzündungen der Mundhöhle und des Magen-Darm-Kanals.
Angina, Stomatitis, Gingivitis, chronische Rhinbitis und
chronische Otitis med. Dysenterie, Colitis simplex et ulcerosa.
Akute und chronische Entzündungen des gesamten lymphatischen
Apparates. Pyodermie, Furunkulose, Skrofulose. Dermatitis und
Dermatosen, chronische Bindegewebsaffektionen. Blepharo-
Konjunktivitis, Opthalmie. Periostitis, Knochenkaries. Sinusitis.
Tendovaginitis, Pulpitis, Periodontitis. Hepatitis. Nephritis.
Lues und deren Folgezustände, besonders Neurolues. Adnexitis,
Metritis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten

ZNS, periphere Nerven, Drüsen, Knochen, Periost, alle
Schleimhäute, Mastdarm, Haut, Bindegewebe, Zähne, Leber, Nieren,
Augen.

Akute Vergiftungssymptome: Metallgeschmack, Brennen, Schwellung
und Geschwulstbildung im Munde, Speichelfluß, Zahnlockerung,
Leberschwellung, ruhrartige Durchfälle mit Blut und Tenesmen.
Albuminurie, Anurie, Kreislaufkollaps.
Chronische Vergiftungssymptome: Psychisch ist die gesamte
Symptomatologie der progr. Paralyse im AMB von Hg zu erkennen,
einschließlich der fortschreitenden Demenz, der Schriftstörung,
des Tremor mercurialis und Erethismus mercurialis. Kachexie,
Kiefernekrose, Nephrocirrhose. Ostitis, Periostitis, hartnäckige,
meist oberflächliche Hautulcerationen. Eitrige Bindehaut- und
Hornhautentzündungen.

Die wichtigsten Charakteristika sind:

1. Foetor ex ore und Speichelfluß.
2. Dick belegte, geschwollene, schrammige Zunge mit sichtbaren
  Zahneindrücken.
3. Übelriechende, klebrige, gelbliche Nachtschweiße.
4. Empfindlichkeit gegen kalte Luft und gegen Bettwärme.
5. Alle entzündlichen Absonderungen sind ätzend, scharf und von
  eitrigem Charakter.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius sublimatus corrosivus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius corrosivus
Hydrargyrum bichloratum
Sublimat
Quecksilebrchlorid
HgCl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 5a: Lösung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei Dysenterie, Colitis, Stomatitis apthosa et ulcerosa, Angina,
Sycosis simplex barbae.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Bei Mercurius
sublimatus corrosivus sind nur alle Symptome viel heftiger. In
erster Linie bei den nebenstehend hervorgehobenen Indikationen zu
verwenden. Bei Sycosis simplex äußerliche Betupfung mit Mercurius
sublimatus corrosivus Dil. D4.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius sulfuratus ruber
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
siehe auch Cinnabaris
Hydrargyrum sulfuratum rubrum
Quecksilbersulfid
Zinnober

(wird allgemein als "Cinnabaris" rezeptiert)

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D3, D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei subakuter und chronischer Sinusitis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Es besteht jedoch
eine bevorzugte Wirkung auf die subakuten und chronischen Entzü
ndungen der Nasen-Nebenhöhlen und der Nasenschleimhaut. "Druck an
der Nasenwurzel" ist ein typisches Leitsymptom. Häufig ist die
Kombination mit Kalium bichromic. D4 - D6 (siehe dort) angezeigt.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius vivus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
Hydargyrum
Quecksilber
Hg

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4

Entspricht vollkommen den Indikationen von Mercurius solubilis.

--
Organspezifizität subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen völlig denen von Mercurius solubilis.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cinnabaris
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cinnabaris = rotes Quecksilbersulfid,

Daten wie Mercurius sulfuratus ruber
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ich will hier nicht weiter auf die einzelnen Verbindungen eingehen. Wichtig ist
bei ALLEN die angegebene Verdünnung: Beachten Sie, in
welch starker Dosierung es eingesetzt wird. Der Vermerk über die
"Verschreibungspflicht bis einschließlich D3" ist bei einem so starken
Gift wie Quecksilber der blanke Hohn.

In der Tabelle 1 steht nichts über die jeweiligen Verdünnungen. Man darf also
die oben bei den Quecksilberverbindungen aufgeführten
Verdünnungen vermuten. Diese Verdünnungen sind aber in einem Bereich, wo
DEUTLICH meßbare Materialmengen an Gift enthalten
sind!
In diesem Zusammenhang ein Hinweis auf die Arbeit von Fernsehredaktionen.
Die Redaktion des "MDR TV: Hier ab vier -Ratgeber" des MDR hat eine Web-Site. Zu
einer Sendung, die anscheinend am 19.1.1999
ausgestrahlt wurde, heißt es in der auch heute noch (Datum 19.10.2001)
unveränderten Webseite (einschließlich Tippfehler)
http://www.mdr.de/hier-ab-vier/ratgeber/inhalt_990119.html :
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<quote>
Krankheitsursachen in der Mundhöhle

Herde (siehe oben), auch Eiterherde
Energetische Störungen, die sich durch gestörte
Energieflüsse auf bestimmte Körperregionen
auswirken können, z.B. Zahn 7 oben oder unten auf
Lunge und Dickdarm, können aber auch Ausdruck
von übergeordneten Phänomenen sein z.B.
unbewältigte Traurigkeit, nichtgelebte Toleranz [1]
etc.etc. - Zähne als Grenzfläche für die Abweichung
vom richtigen Weg? Zumindest als Zeichen der
Auseinandersetzung zwischen Mensch und Umwelt.
Handfester ist die Belastung durch Quecksilber aus
dem Amalgam, das inzwischen laut
wissenschaftlichen Gutachten (Kieler Gutachten
1997) für medizinisch und rechtlich bedenklich
gehalten wird. Amalgam vergiftet den Speichel, führt
zu einer Mundbatterie mit Stromproduktion und hat
jede Menge Nebenwirkungen. Nur - keiner liest den
Beipackzettel - es gibt ihn (so) nicht. Zitat: "Amalgam
gehört entweder in den Sondermüll oder in den Mund
des Menschen". Kleiner Auszug aus den möglichen
Nebenwirkungen: Zittern, erhöhte Erregbarkeit,
Gingivitis, Schilddrüsen- und Verdauungsstörungen,
Candida-Pilz-Belastungen, Depressionen,
Vergeßlichkeit, massives Schwitzen, Knötchenflechte
der Wangenschleimhaut, das Blutbild kann sich
verschlechtern und die Resistenz von Bakterien
entstehen. Teste: Kaugummi-Test, Urin-Test (Amtest
- Adresse, Tel. siehe unten). Auch andere
Zahn-Werkstoffe können toxische Belastungen
hervorrufen, allen voran das Edelmetall Palladium.
Funktionelle Störungen entstehen durch
Disharmonien zwischen Kopfhaltung
(Halswirbelsäule) und Kiefergelenken, Zahnstellung
und Kaumuskulatur und durch falsches Kauen.
Mundspüllösung: Listerine,
Dentaperfekt+ƒ-Mundwasser (mit CH 7),
Parodontitis-Behandlung mit St. Johanser
Matricell-Ampullen. 1 Ampulle in den Mund entleeren
und 10 Minuten im Mund bewegen, erst süß, dann
wirkt das Propolis antibakteriell und antientzündlich.
Vorbeugung: Reichlich Kalzium aus der Nahrung
durch Wirsing, Broccoli, Mandeln, Grünkohl, nicht
nur durch Milch! Pflanzliches Calcium reicht aus.
Mundgeruch: Entsteht durch Parodontose und
schlechte Darmregulation - Darm und Mund hängen
zusammen.
Herztest: Prüft die Herzaktion und gibt per Computer
Auskunft über die Vitalität des Körpers und den
Schaden von z.B. Amalgam -
Reliability-Heart-Rate-Test, zeigt auch die Wirkung
der Behandlung. Sensationell einfache und sichere
Überprüfung von Gesundheitszustand und
Therapieerfolg. [2]

Wie erkennen Sie einen Herd in den Zähnen?

Körperliche Beschwerden, die nicht zu erklären sind,
können ein Zahnstörfeld zur Ursache haben.
Milchzahn im Erwachsenengebiß = immer ein
Störfeld
Zähne beschliffen mit hochturbinigem Bohrer?
Vielleicht ein Störfeld.
Schwäche oder Kollaps bei (nach) Zahnbehandlung.
Zahn- und Kopfschmerzen zur gleichen Zeit.

Ausleitung von Quecksilber, das zur
Unfruchtbarkeit und mannigfaltigen Krankheiten
(siehe oben) führen kann:
Derivatio Ha - homöopathisches Komplexmittel [3]
Dentaperfektƒ Mundwasser vor und nach
Amalgam-Entfernung
Zinkorotat (20 oder 40) 1x1
Selen - homöopathisch z.B. D4/D6
Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]

Achtung! Dies sind nur Möglichkeiten, alle
Behandlungen nur mit Arzt und Zahnarzt zusammen.
Endgültige Quecksilber-Ausleitungen können über 1
Jahr in Anspruch nehmen.

Weitere Methoden: Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge,
Bioresonanz-Therapie; [5]

Merke: Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet
werden. [6]
</quote>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anmerkungen:
[1]
"Energetische Störungen" ist typisches Vokabular der "alternativen"
"Heiler"-Szene.
[2]
Die Aussagekraft dieses angeblichen Tests wage ich ganz entschieden zu
bezweifeln!
[3]
"Ausleitung" mit homöopathischen Mitteln ist NICHT möglich!
[4]
"Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]"
50 Kubikzentimer einer Quecksilber-Lösung D6...
[5]
Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge und "Bioresonanz"-"Therapie" sind
Schwindel-Verfahren.
[6]
"Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet werden."
Das ist ein Kernsatz fast jeder Argumentation der "alternativen" "Heiler"-Szene.
Er enthält einen besonders hinterhältigen Trick,
angesetzt mit der Standard-Formel des "individuellen Eingehens" auf jeden
einzelnen Patienten: Der Patient denkt, daß man sich
seiner besonders schonend annimmt.
In Wirklichkeit wird ihm durch diesen Trick eine ganze Serie von "Tests"
verkauft, die er natürlich bezahlen muß. Hilft der erste
Test nicht, dann vielleicht der zweite. Hilft der nicht, dann vielleicht der
dritte... Und so weiter... Im Nullkommanichts sind Kosten
von mehreren Hundert Mark, nicht selten sogar mehreren Tausend Mark aufgelaufen.


So ungeniert wird heute Quecksilber als Medikament angepriesen. Und verkauft...
Und angewendet...
Auch bei Ihnen?
Aribert Deckers


PS: Erwähnen möchte ich auch dieses makabre Fundstück aus dem "Repertorium" der
Deutschen Homöopathie-Union, Karlsruhe:
   Poliomyelitis: Aconit., Belladonna, Ferrum phosph., Gelsenium,
                  Phosphor., Plumbum acet.

("Poliomyelitis", abgekürzt "Polio", ist Kinderlähmung...)
hier geht's weiter !
[ Das Amalgam-Zentrum ]
Copyright © 2001
Aribert Deckers
and
Copyright © 2001
Antares Real-Estate
Jegliche Weiterverwendung der Texte der Amalgam-Page ist verboten.
Verlage dürfen sich wegen der Nachdruckrechte per Email an mich wenden.
Aribert Deckers
</quote>
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   "Treu & Glauben, Hinter den Kulissen eines Wirtschaftsskandals"
                             
                http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_treu.htm

O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 23:44 GMT
>>>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>"Drawing upon the extensive use of homeopathy by historical figures, founders
>>of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution
documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
breakthroughs in the biological and clinical effects of nanopharmacology, it is
a certainty that homeopathy has an evolving scientific foundation in the
Integrative Medicine of the future."
- Kenneth R. Pelletier, PhD, MD
Author, The Best Alternative Medicine: What Works? What Does Not?
Former Clinical Professor of Medicine, Stanford University School of Medicine;
Presently, Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Arizona;
Director of the Corporate Health Improvement Program which is a research
program including such Fortune 500 companies as Corning, IBM, Dow,
Ford, Nestle, and NASA.

> That is bullshit.

You're a joke.

> We know *who* is actually responsible
> for "The Rise of Autoimmune and Other
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> How to sell sick Mercury

So it's not the mercury in vaccines (thimerosol - 50% mercury), the mercury
fillings put in our teeth, the eating of mercury-contaminated fish, etc. that's
responsible for mercury poisoning, but specific homeopathic remedies.

'Standard homeopathic preparations of Mercurius vivus are so dilute
that they are highly unlikely to cause mercury poisoning even if the
patient takes a sizable overdose.
..'
http://www.answers.com/topic/mercurius-vivus

You're a sick joke, ho.
Happy Oyster - 10 Oct 2009 00:08 GMT
>>>>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
>breakthroughs

That is nothing but lies, delusion, plain bullshit and fraud.
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                          Bettina Raddatz:
   "Treu & Glauben, Hinter den Kulissen eines Wirtschaftsskandals"
                             
                http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_treu.htm

O.pearl - 10 Oct 2009 00:16 GMT
>>>>>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>>of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution
>>documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
breakthroughs in the biological and clinical effects of nanopharmacology, it is
a certainty that homeopathy has an evolving scientific foundation in the
Integrative Medicine of the future."
- Kenneth R. Pelletier, PhD, MD
Author, The Best Alternative Medicine: What Works? What Does Not?
Former Clinical Professor of Medicine, Stanford University School of Medicine;
Presently, Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Arizona;
Director of the Corporate Health Improvement Program which is a research
program including such Fortune 500 companies as Corning, IBM, Dow,
Ford, Nestle, and NASA.

> That is nothing but lies, delusion, plain bullshit and fraud.

From you, continually.
Happy Oyster - 10 Oct 2009 00:38 GMT
>> That is nothing but lies, delusion, plain bullshit and fraud.
>
>From you, continually.

No, you rotten liar. We for lots of year already are on the heels of Heel and
their conspiracy. Like here, when we uncovered the messy "study" in Leipzig:

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho12.htm
<quote>
Homöopathie
Herausforderung an die Universität Leipzig
Der Fall Nieber et al

28.11.2003

Obgleich Hahnemann die "Homöopathie" schon vor rund 200 Jahren erfand, hat die
erlesenste Elite der Menschheit, die Homöopathen, es bis heute nicht geschafft,
die Wirksamkeit (!) der "Homöopathie" zu beweisen.

Bis heute, denn nun verkündet die folgende Pressemeldung der Universität Leizig:
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<quote>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:48:59 +0100 (MET)
Sender: idw - Pressemitteilung <service@idw-online.de>
From: Dr. Bärbel Adams <adams@uni-leipzig.de>

Informationsdienst Wissenschaft - idw - - Pressemitteilung
Universität Leipzig, 14.11.2003

Preis für Wirkungsnachweis homöopathischer Mittel

Apothekerin Franziska Schmidt, Prof. Dr. Karen Nieber und Prof. Dr.
Wolfgang Süß vom Institut für Pharmazie der Universität Leipzig
erhielten jetzt den Hans-Heinrich-Reckeweg-Preis 2003 der
Internationalen Gesellschaft für Homotoxikologie e.V. und der
Internationalen Gesellschaft für Biologische Medizin e. V.

Der mit 10 000 Euro dotierte Hauptpreis wurde zum Gemeinschaftskongress
der beiden Gesellschaften Anfang des Monats in Baden-Baden übergeben.
Die ausgezeichnete Arbeit trägt den Titel "Entwicklung eines in-vitro
Testsystems zum Wirkungsnachweis ausgewählter homöopathischer
flüssiger Verdünnungen"

Wirkungen homöopathischer Mittel sind zwar häufig beschrieben, aber
bisher kaum objektiv nachgewiesen. Schmidt, Nieber und Süß haben mit
ihrer Arbeit anhand objektiver Parameter den Nachweis erbracht, dass
homöopathische flüssige Belladonnaverdünnungen, die u.a. für Koliken im
Magen-Darm-Bereich [1] eingesetzt werden, eine Wirkung auslösen.
Sie verwendeten die Methode der isometrischen Kontraktionsmessung. Das ist
ein kompliziertes Mess- und Auswerteverfahren, mit dem man
Bewegungsabläufe an bestimmten Präparaten messen kann.

Für den oben beschriebenen Versuch verwendeten die Wissenschaftler
Präparate aus dem Magen-Darm-Trakt [1] einer Ratte [2], die in
Organbäder mit einer bestimmten Lösung eingespannt wurden. [3]

Durch die Zugabe von Acetylcholin oder Substanz P, die im Körper u.a.
die Bewegungen des Darms steigern können, kam es zu Kontraktionen der
Präparate []4], die  die gemessen werden konnten und am Bildschirm in
deutlichen Kurven abzulesen waren.

Dann wurden in die Organbäder flüssige Belladonnaverdünnungen
eingebracht [5], die streng nach Deutschen Homöopathischen
Arzneibuch hergestellt wurden. Die Konzentration von Belladonna in der
Lösung war so gering, dass die Substanz nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden
konnte. [6]
Die Wirkung kann also nicht auf einer Substanzwirkung beruhen [7], sondern
offensichtlich treten durch den homöopatischen Verdünnungsprozess
Modifikationen des flüssigen Arzneiträgers auf, die zu einer
physiko-chemischen Beeinflussung von Übertragungsmechanismen führen -
denn ohne Schütteln keine Wirkung! [8]

Mit der homöopathischen Belladonnaverdünnung wurden die Kontraktionen
der Präparate deutlich verringert, ablesbar an den auf dem Bildschirm
erscheinenden Kurven. Damit war der Wirkungsnachweis des
Homöopathikums erbracht. Auch nach mehrmaliger Wiederholung der
Versuche ergab sich immer das gleiche Resultat. [9]

Dieses Resultat war für die Internationale Gesellschaft für
Homotoxikologie e.V. und die Internationale Gesellschaft für
Biologische Medizin e.V. so wichtig, dass den Wissenschaftlern der
Hauptpreis auf ihrem Gemeinschaftskongress zugesprochen wurde. Den
Leipziger Pharmakologen ist das sicher ein guter Anlass, auf diesem
Wege weiter zu forschen.

weitere Informationen:    Prof. Dr. Karen Nieber
Telefon: 0341 - 97 36 812
E-Mail: nieber@uni-leipzig.de

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Heel-BHI: The World's Most Outrageous Homeopathic Marketer
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Stephen Barrett, M.D.

In 1982, physicians throughout the United States began receiving
multiple mailings of a large softcover booklet called Biological
Therapy with Homeopathic Remedies [1]. The booklet described what it
called the practice of "homotoxicology" and offered 53 products
intended for treating cancer, gallstones, glaucoma, kidney failure,
multiple sclerosis, smallpox, syphilis, tuberculosis, and more than a
hundred other diseases and conditions. The mailings came from
Biological Homeopathic Industries (BHI), of Albuquerque, New Mexico,
whose president, Dr. Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg, was said to have done
"extensive research" since the late 1920s [1]. In 1985, the
Albuquerque Tribune reported that BHI had distributed nearly 200,000
of its booklets [2].

In response to this promotion, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
concluded that BHI was one of the most flagrant law violators among
homeopathic marketers [3]. Acting on this belief, the agency issued a
regulatory letter [4] and banned the importation of BHI products that
it considered unapproved new drugs. Despite these actions, however,
BHI (now called Heel, Inc.) has continued to violate the law and now
offers more than a thousand products. This article traces the
company's history and states what I believe should be done to protect
consumers.

Background History

Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg, MD (1905-1985), was a German physician who
practiced homeopathy. The Heel Web site states that he founded
Biologische Heilmittel Heel GmbH in Berlin 1936 and moved the company
to its present location in Baden-Baden in 1953. Between 1936 and 1979,
he developed 1,000 combination homeopathic remedies in Germany. In
1979, Reckeweg relocated to Abuquerque and created Biological
Homeopathic Industries (BHI) and began manufacturing combination
remedies in tablet form. In 1981 he founded Menaco Publishing Company,
which published books and "journal" called "Biological Therapy" (now
called the Journal of Biomedical Therapy). In 1997, the Arizona
company was renamed Heel Inc, which now manufactures and distributes
both BHI products and Heel products [5,6]. Heel products are primarily
marketed to practitioners, whereas BHI products are primarily marketed
to consumers,

  According to Reckeweg:

  Illness is the expression of self-healing. The afflicted organism
  attempts to regulate its functions through the body's greater
  defense system by activating detoxification and excretion.

  Inflammation and fever are not necessarily "bad" signs but rather
  serve to detoxify and eliminate toxins. This occurs according to
  the chemical processes as defined and demonstrated in
  homotoxicology.

  Through this, the physician is provided a different perspective of
  illnesses as many puzzles are clarified and methods of treatment
  are re-established.

  Inflammation need not be suppressed by antibiotics and/or
  chemotherapy as this often provokes retoxification and
  therapeutical damage that should be avoided.

  By suppression the illness is propelled towards dangerous retoxic
  cellular phases that manifest themselves as chronic and/or
  lingering diseases. BHI homeopathic remedies stimulate the five
  systems that comprise the great corporal defense system as defined
  in homotoxicology [6].

Reckeweg further claimed that his methods worked by converting
homotoxins into nontoxic substances that he called "homotoxons" [7].

The principles of "homotoxicology" do not conform to what is
scientifically known about the body in health and disease. I have
found nothing about Reckeweg or homotoxicology by searching MEDLINE
and very few mentions of him or his work from sources not commercially
affiliated with Heel-BHI. Although Reckeweg is said to have conducted
extensive research, I can find no evidence that he published anything
significant about this. BHI's magazine has described a few recent
studies of Heel products, but these involved no control groups and
mean absolutely nothing. Reckeweg's methods are also promoted by the
British Society for Homotoxicology & Anti-Homotoxic Therapy

The claims made for Heel-BHI products are available on several Web
sites. Heel-BHI has a copy of its 108-page Routine Therapy guide for
Heel products [8] and its 132-page Homeopathic Therapy guide for BHI
products [9]. Homotoxicology.net has posted Heel's 669-page
Biotherapeutic Index, which describes how to use products to treat
more than 400 conditions [10]. A 1993 edition of the book, which was
distributed at an osteopathic convention in 1998, was smaller but
contained 12 pages on "neoplasia and neoplastic phases of disease."
(Neoplasm is a medical term for tumor.) These volumes contain most
brazen set of bogus therapeutic claims I have ever seen.

To illustrate the extent of the claims, I have posted the entry for
Lyphomyosot® in the Biotherapeutic Index, which states that the
product is useful for asthma, "blood purifying," bronchitis, chronic
gastritis, cystitis, dermatoses, diarrhea, eczema, flatulence,
gallbladder disease, heel pain, herpes, kidney stones, liver disease,
nasal polyps, rickets, swollen glands, tuberculosis, and several other
problems.

FDA Enforcement Actions

In 1984, FDA officials concluded that BHI was one of the three most
flagrant violators because they marketed products for very serious
disease conditions [11]. Soon afterward the agency warned Reckeweg
that it was "unaware of any substantial scientific evidence which
demonstrates that any of your marketed homeopathic drugs are generally
recognized as safe and effective for their intended use" and that
"continued marketing of these drugs is a serious violation of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act." [4] A few months later, the
Albuquerque Tribune stated that the company had stopped selling
"anticancer, antivirus, artery, regeneration, and stroke pills" and
would modify how it marketed the rest [2].

An FDA Enforcement Report indicates that in 1991 BHI recalled 1,055
bottles and 33,333 finished bulk tablets of BHI Infection Homeopathic
Remedy Tablets because they were "subpotent." [12]

Between October 1993 and September 1994, the FDA warned BHI to stop
making claims that BHI Cold, which contained sulfur and pulsatilla,
was effective against mumps, whooping cough, chronic respiratory
diseases, herpes zoster, all viral infections, and measles. In
addition, when combined with other BHI remedies, it had been illegally
claimed to be effective against otitis, pleurisy, bronchitis or
pneumonia, conjunctivitis, and tracheitis [13].

In addition to warning letters, the FDA has issued import alerts to
try to prevent most BHI products from being imported. Between October
1983 and April 1985, the agency made 10 detentions on grounds that the
products were unapproved new drugs [14]. Since 1995, additional Heel
products have been blocked because of illegal therapeutic claims and
failure to abide by good manufacturing practices [15]. There may have
been other detentions, but I do not have access to such information.

[...]

The Bottom Line

Heel-BHI has been marketing products with outrageous and illegal
claims for more than 20 years. The vast majority are irrationally
formulated and have not been scientifically tested. Using them instead
of proven therapy is a waste of money and could lead to delay in
getting appropriate treatment. The FDA should take forceful action to
rid the marketplace of these products. Since there is no logical
reason to use the products, consumers should avoid practitioners who
prescribe them.

References
{1}
Biological Therapy with Homeopathic Remedies. Albuquerque, NM: Menaco
Publishing Company, 1981, 1983.

{2}
Uhlman M. FDA cracks down in city 'homeopathic' drug factory.
Albuquerque Tribune March 14, 1985.

{3}
Rados B. Riding the coattails of homeopathy's revival. FDA Consumer
19(2):30-34, 1985.

{4}
Michels D. Regulatory letter to Dr. Hans Heinrich Reckeweg, Dec 11, 1984.

{5}
The story of Heel Inc. Heel-BHI Web site, accessed May 3, 2003.

{6}
Reckeweg HH. Foreword to Homeopathic Therapy: Physicians Reference.
Albuquerque, NM: Heel, Inc., 1998.

{7}
Reckeweg HH. Scientific basis of biological and homeopathic therapy.
(Booklet) Baden-Baden: Aurelia Verlag, 1979.

{8}
Routine Therapy. Albuquerque, NM: Heel, Inc., 1998.

{9}
Homeopathic Therapy: Physicians Reference. Albuquerque, NM: Heel,
Inc., 1998.

{10}
Biotherapeutic Index, 5th revised English edition. Baden-Baden,
Germany: Biologische Heilmittel GmbH, 2000, p 4.

{11}
Chastonay RJ. Request for limited inspection Re: Homeopathic Products.
Memo, Oct 26, 1984

{12}
FDA Enforcement Report, March 25, 1992, p 6.

{13}
Health Fraud Actions, October 1993 - September 1994. Rockville, MD:
FDA, 1994, p 3.

{14}
Drugs detention for FY 84 to date. FDA computer printout. Oct 10,
1985.

{15}
Details can be located by searching the FDA Web site for "Heel,"
"BHI," "Biologische Heilmittel" and "Heel GmbH."

{16}
Sanchez JW. Duke city company to get IRB. Albuquerque Tribune, Oct 14,
2003.

HomeoWatch Home Page
This article was revised on October 21, 2003.
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http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/bhiwarning.html
http://www.heel.ca/ajournal/journal.html
http://www.biopathica.co.uk/Society.htm
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/Routine_Therapy.pdf
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/BHI_Homeopathic_Therapy.pdf
http://www.homotoxicology.net/Documents/biotherapy.pdf
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/lymphomyosot.html
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/history/fdac1.html
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/BHI/bhiwarning.html
http://www.heelbhi.com/about.html
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/Routine_Therapy.pdf
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/BHI_Homeopathic_Therapy.pdf
http://www.homotoxicology.net/Documents/biotherapy.pdf
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Publikationen 1995 - 2003

[...]

Schmidt, F., W. Süß, K. Nieber:
Entwicklung eines in-vitro Testsystems zum Wirkungsnacweis
ausgewählter homöopathischer flüssiger Verdünnungen.
Biol. Med. 2003
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Anmerkungen
[1]
Gemäß den fundamentalen Regeln der Homöopathie hätte erst einmal anhand eines
Repertoriums das zur Erkrankung der Ratte passende Arzneimittel bestimmt werden
müssen. Damit stellen sich die Fragen:
1. An welcher Krankheit litt die Ratte?
2. Wie waren ihre Symptome?
3. Wieso wurde Belladonna verwendet?
4. War an der noch lebenden Ratte überhaupt getestet worden, daß Belladonna das
richtige Arzneimittel ist!?
Schließlich ist die Homöopathie INDIVIDUELL (!), so daß das passende
Arzneimittel für jedes Tier EINZELN ermittelt werden muß!

[2]
Homöopathie wirkt laut Hahnemann am Menschen. Wer aber hat behauptet, daß die
für Menschen durchgeführten Arzneimittelprüfungen 1:1 für Tiere übernommen
werden dürfen!?

[3]
Wer hat bei Ratten Arzneimittelproben durchgeführt, anhand derer erwiesen ist,
für welche Symptome welche Arzneimittel zu geben sind?

[4]
Homöopathie soll eine "ganzheitliche" Heilmethode sein. Das heißt : an einem
GANZEN, lebenden Körper. Was aber ist mit einzelnen, losgelösten Zellverbänden
in einem PRÄPARAT?

Welche Verstimmung der Lebenskraft soll denn diesen Zellverbänden innewohnen!?

[5]
Wenn die Messungen wirklich OBJEKTIV sein sollen, dann müßte man doch jedes Mal
völlig gleichartiges Probenmaterial der Ratte verwenden. Tatsache ist, daß nach
dem Beaufschlagen mit Belladonna bereits eine homöopathische Behandlung
stattgefunden hat. Eine weitere Behandlung ist somit unmöglich, denn das
Material ist bereits vorbehandelt und damit verändert.

Was, wenn man das Material nicht von nur einer einzigen, sondern von mehreren
Ratten verwendet hat ? Wurde für jede Ratte einzeln vorher an der lebenden Ratte
Belladonna als wirksames Arzneimittel herausgefunden ...?

[6]
Wenn Belladonna nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden konnte, ergibt sich zwangsläufig
die Frage, wie gut überhaupt dieses Nachweisverfahren ist.

[7]
Dies ist ein Trugschluß. Wenn der Stoff X nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden kann,
sagt das nur etwas über das Nachweisverfahren aus, nicht jedoch über seine
Wirksamkeit !

[8]
Ohne Schütteln keine Wirkung. Das schreibt die Universität Leipzig
tatsächlich...

Dann ergibt sich zwangsläufig die Frage, wie das Schütteln das Ausmaß der
Wirkung beeinflußt. Hier hat man zum ersten Mal in der Geschichte der
Homöopathie die Gelegenheit, diese brennende Frage, die Hahnemann nicht lösen
konnte, zu beantworten , und dies auch noch objektiv, das heißt: OHNE subjektive
Wahrnehmung und Ergebnisverfälschung des Patienten.

[9]
Ein reproduzierter Fehler ist und bleibt ein Fehler. Er beweist gar nichts -
außer, daß diejenigen, die den Versuch durchführen, in der Versuchsanordnung und
-durchführung grundlegende Fehler haben, und daß sie diese nicht finden, ja,
noch nicht einmal erkennen, daß sie diese Fehler gemacht haben...

Fazit:

Das Mindeste, was man von Homöopathen verlangen kann und darf und muß, ist, daß
sie sich an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie halten.

Ich bitte zu beachten, daß die von mir aufgeführten Kritikpunkte elementare
Grundpfeiler der Homöopathie sind.

Wie man unschwer erkennen kann, sind bei den Versuchen an der Universität Leizig
diese Grundregeln nicht eingehalten worden.

Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß sie sich
EINWANDFREI an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie gehalten hat.

Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß das Schütteln eine
einwandfrei reproduzierbare, meßbare Größe für den Nachweis der Wirksamkeit
liefert.

Ich behaupte, daß die Versuche an der Universität Leipzig elementarste
Grundregeln der Homöopathie mißachten und daher keine Homöopathie sind.
Wissenschaftlich sind sie erst recht nicht.

Aribert Deckers

Über den Wahnsinn Homöopathie
* [ Homöopathie : Die Königin der Heilerkunst ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie: Bißwunden ]
* [ Danke, Herr Homöopath! ]
* [ Homöopathische Kindesmißhandlung ]
* [ Hundescheiße als Arzneimittel ]
* [ Homöopathie : Halstuch und Lachesis ]
* [ Repertorium hydrargyrum: Wie man Kranken Quecksilber verkauft ]
* [ Maliciosa der Homöopathie ]
* [ Homöopathie - Die No-Medicine Medicine ]
* [ Mein Schwur ]
* [ Arzneimittelrätsel ]
* [ "Petze!" ]
* [ Neuordnung der Mikrobiologie ]
* [ Der Fall Christian Grießhammer ]
* [ Der Fall Bea Soldat-Braun ]

externe Links zu Dokumentationen anderer Autoren:
Martin Lambeck:
* [ Eine Revolution der Physik? Die Unterstützung der Homöopathie ]
* [ und ähnlicher Therapierichtungen durch die Krankenkassen      ]
* [ http://www.gwup.org/skeptiker/archiv/2001/3/homoeopathie.html ]

Dr. William.E.Thomas MD:
"Homeopathy - Historical Origins and the Present"
(Melbourne, 1995)
* [ Hahnemann's Allergy to Quinine                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/allergy.html ]
* [ The Vis Vitalis Triumphant                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/vis.html ]
* [ Homeopathy Dissected                             ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/dissect.html ]
* [ Is Homeopathy A Cult?                         ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/cult.html ]
* [ Toxicity, Efficacy & Mode of Action in Homeopathy ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/toxicity.html ]

Treffliche Artikel der TAZ
* [ Colin Goldner: Autodidakten und Beutelschneider ]
* [ Colin Goldner: Heilpraktiker - Die Qualifikation ]

 

hier geht's weiter !
[ Das Amalgam-Zentrum ]
Copyright © 2003
Aribert Deckers
and
Copyright © 2003
Antares Real-Estate

Jegliche Weiterverwendung der Texte der Amalgam-Page ist verboten.
Verlage dürfen sich wegen der Nachdruckrechte per Email an mich wenden.
Aribert Deckers
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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 13:10 GMT
..
>>>>"Drawing upon the extensive use of homeopathy by historical figures, founders
>>>>of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution
>>documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
breakthroughs in the biological and clinical effects of nanopharmacology, it is
a certainty that homeopathy has an evolving scientific foundation in the
Integrative Medicine of the future."
- Kenneth R. Pelletier, PhD, MD
Author, The Best Alternative Medicine: What Works? What Does Not?
Former Clinical Professor of Medicine, Stanford University School of Medicine;
Presently, Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Arizona;
Director of the Corporate Health Improvement Program which is a research
program including such Fortune 500 companies as Corning, IBM, Dow,
Ford, Nestle, and NASA.

>>> That is nothing but lies, delusion, plain bullshit and fraud.
>>
>>From you, continually.
>
> No, you rotten liar.

Yes, you rotten liar.

> We for lots of year already are on the heels of Heel and
> their conspiracy.

Admission you're one of the thoroughly discredited quackpot gang.

'Who are these so-called "Quackbusters"?...

Americans have known, or suspected, for some time, that there
has been an organized assault by a group, against companies, and
practitioners, offering alternatives to the drugs/surgery paradigm.
That group calls itself the "quackbusters," and they are a scam.

North America has been going towards what are called "alternatives,"
in health and medicine, in a big way. More than half of the US health
dollar is currently being spent on this phenomena.  With new billing
codes (ABC Codes) going into effect, allowing insurance and Medicare
to pay for "alternative" therapies, that percentage will, no doubt, increase
dramatically.
.................
Stephen Barrett MD, who the Pennsylvania licensing board officially
classifies as "Not in Good Standing," operates the dubious website
www.quackwatch.com out of his basement in Allentown, Pennsylvania.
........
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/WisconsinWar/who_are_these_so.htm

California Superior Court Judge Rules on Quackbuster "Credibility"
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/california_superior_court_judge_.htm

'Barrett, we also know, was forced to give up his medical license in
Pennsylvania in 1993 when his part-time employment at the State
Mental Hospital was terminated, and he had so few (nine) private
patients during his last five years of practice, that he couldn't afford
the Malpractice Insurance premiums Pennsylvania requires.

In a job market in the United States, where there is a "doctor shortage,"
Stephen Barrett, after his termination by the State mental Hospital,
couldn't find employment.  He was in his mid-50s at the time.  He
should have been at the top of his craft - yet, apparently, he couldn't
find work.
...
Barrett, in the Canadian case, has formally admitted, according to
Canadian law, to a number of situations put to him by the Plaintiff,
including:

"The sole purpose of the activities of Barrett & Baratz are to
discredit and cause damage and harm to health care practitioners,
businesses that make alternative health therapies or products available,
and advocates of non-allopathic therapies and health freedom."

"Barrett has interfered with the civil rights of numerous Americans,
in his efforts to have his critics silenced."

"Barrett has strategically orchestrated the filing of legal actions in
improper jurisdictions for the purpose of frustrating the victims of
such lawsuits and increasing his victims costs."

"Barrett failed the exams he was required to pass to become a
Board Certified Medical Doctor."
......'
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/quackpots/barrett.htm

> Like here, when we uncovered the messy "study" in Leipzig:

Experimenting on other animals is wrong.  Here's another study for you.

'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource

Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist and joint recipient with
Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize
in Physiology or Medicine for his co-discovery of the Human Immunodeficiency
Virus (HIV).

He and  his team of researchers have been doing rigorous experiments using
homeopathically prepared biological substances. They have conclusively shown
that homeopathically prepared biological substances give off electromagnetic
waves and therefore have effects.

"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
dilutions as high as 10(-18) (equivalent to 18X).  The EM signature changed
with dilution levels but was unaffected by the initial concentration and remained
even after the remaining DNA fragments were destroyed by chemical agents.

Of additional interest was the researchers' observation that they observed the
SAME results whether their initial concentration of cells were just 10 or 10(9)
(this is 10 to the 9th power = 10,000,000,000 cells)."

Click here for the full report from Dana Ullman MPH

<links at link>
http://homeopathyresource.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/2008-nobel-prize-winner-prove
s-homeopathic-remedies-are-active/

Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 13:30 GMT
>Admission you're one of the thoroughly discredited quackpot gang.

That is a very stupid claim.
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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 13:33 GMT
>>Admission you're one of the thoroughly discredited quackpot gang.
>
> That is a very stupid claim.

What?
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 13:39 GMT
>>>Admission you're one of the thoroughly discredited quackpot gang.
>>
>> That is a very stupid claim.
>
>What?

Oh, you can't read? I guessed that.
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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 13:49 GMT
>>>>Admission you're one of the thoroughly discredited quackpot gang.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Oh, you can't read? I guessed that.

Your so-called mind?
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 14:04 GMT
>Your so-called mind?  

What I have in mind? Oh, perhaps about telling you this story about a fraud
committed in Bremerhaven, Germany:

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woch.htm

<quote>
Netzwerke und Seilschaften
Die Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven

16.11.2004
11.09.2004

In Bremerhaven gibt es eine "Gesundheitswoche". Inzwischen zum 13. Mal.

Das Titelbild des Veranstaltungskalenders:
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13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven

Eine Veranstaltung Ihrer Ärzte und Apotheker
4. bis 10. September 2004

Hochschule Bremerhaven (Haus K),
An der Karlstadt 8, 27568 Bremerhaven

GESUNDHEIT ist kein ABERGLAUBE

Für die ganze Familie

Eine Veranstaltung der
Bezirksstelle der Ärztekammer Bremen mit
der Kassenärztlichen Vereinigung Bremen und
der Apothekerkammer Bremen und
dem Apothekerverein Bremen
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Siehe auch die Web-Site dazu: http://www.gesundheitswoche.de 
(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc1.zip)

Das Titelbild des Veranstaltungskalenders

Das Programm findet man auch im WWW.

Unter anderem
1. das Vorwort: http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/vorwort.html 
2. Das Programm für den 4.9.2004:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_04.html
3. Das Programm für den 6.9.2004:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_06.html
4. Das Programm für den 7.9.2004:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_07.html

gezippte Beweisstücke:
1. das Vorwort: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc3.zip 
2. Das Programm für den 4.9.2004: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc4.zip 
3. Das Programm für den 6.9.2004: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc5.zip 
4. Das Programm für den 7.9.2004: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc6.zip 

Im ""Sonntagsjournal", der Sonntagsausgabe der "Nordsee-Zeitung", ist am
5.9.2004 auf Seite 30 eine ganzseitige Reklame für die Veranstaltung. Direkt
unter der Überschrift "13. GESUNDHEITSWOCHE BREMERHAVEN" heißt es: "Eine
Veranstaltung Ihrer Ärzte und Apotheker".

Das Programm für den 5.9.2004 lautet, sowohl im WWW als auch in der
Zeitungsreklame als im gedruckten Veranstaltungskalender:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_05.html
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Essen wir uns krank und können wir uns gesund essen?
Dr. J. Hensel

10.40 - 11.30 Uhr
Gesundes Frühstück für die ganze Familie
Susanne Peters

11.40 - 12.10 Uhr
Shiatsu - heilsame Berührung
Marianne Raack

12.20 - 12.50 Uhr
Klangmassage nach Peter Hess
Ingrid Niewerth

13.00 Uhr
Mittagessen für die ganze Familie

14.00 - 14.30 Uhr
Traditionelle chinesische Medizin
Nicola B. Lahn-Samsel

14.40 - 15.10 Uhr
Halte an - wo läufst Du hin?
Werner Deharde

15.20 - 15.50 Uhr
Brennende Füße - und Gelenkprobleme
Marita Van Waeyenberghe

16.00 - 16.30 Uhr
Nordic-Walking
Sabine Vogel
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc7.zip)

"Gesundheit ist kein Aberglaube" - so lautet das Motto der gesamten
Veranstaltungswoche. Zu esoterischen Themen wie "Shiatsu - heilsame Berührung",
"Klangmassage nach Peter Hess" oder "Traditionelle chinesische Medizin" sollte
man also sinnvolle, wissenschaftliche fundierte Information erwarten dürfen.

Doch der Schein trügt. Keinerlei wissenschaftliche Information, keinerlei
Abgrenzung von Esoterik!

Das Programm für den 5.9.2004 lautet:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_07.html
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Liebe-Glaube-Hoffnung
Moderation: Wolfgang Rau

14:00 - 14:30 Uhr
Mir geht es psychisch nicht gut - wie finde ich Hilfe?
Frau Dr. phil. A. Ebbinghaus

14:40 - 15:10 Uhr
Bewährte Hausmittel
Frau Dr. C. Bartsch

15:20 - 15:50 Uhr
Der gesunde Schlaf
Prof. Dr. U. Sander

16:00 - 16:30 Uhr
Das Behandlungsspektrum der chinesischen Medizin
Karl Raab

16:40 - 17:10 Uhr
Was ist anders nach den Wechseljahren?
Frau Dr. S. Schildknecht

17:20 - 17:50 Uhr
Was macht der Ritter ohne Aspirin - Medikamente
im Wandel der Zeit
Andre Koelbel
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc6.zip)

Karl Raab, ein Heilpraktiker aus Bremen, erzählt über "Traditionelle chinesische
Medizin".

Sinnvolle wissenschaftliche medizinische Information: keine. Dafür Herumwackeln
mit Armen und Händen. Für Alle im Saal zum Mitmachen.

Grausamst interpretierte chinesische Phantasien zur Medizin. Tausende von Jahren
alt. Und kein bißchen vorangekommen. Festgefahren. Fernab jeder
wissenschaftlichen Logik. Medizinisch unhaltbar.

In der "Nordsee-Zeitung" vom 8.9.2004 heißt es zu dem Vortrag von Karl Raab auf
der Seite 10 unter anderem:
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In China glaubt man, daß eine kosmische Energie durch den Körper läuft,
erläuterte der Bremer.

Diese Qi - gesprochen wie Schi - läuft auf zwölf Kanälen durch den Körper
und verbindet Organe miteinander. "Das ist kein Aberglaube", sagt Raab,
der in China ausgebildet wurde. Forscher hätten diese Kanäle zwar noch
nicht gefunden, aber die Wirkung der therapeutischen Ansätze sei nachweisbar.

Nach Auffassung der fernöstlichen Mediziner steht dabei der Fluß des Qi im
Mittelpunkt. Ist er gestört, geht es dem Menschen schlecht.

Mit Akupunktur, Massagen und Energieübungen wie Qi Gong könne dieser Fluß
wieder in Harmonie gebracht werden. Vergleichbar sei das mit einem
Kanalsystem: Wenn ein Gully verstopft sei, werde er nach der Reparatur wieder
geöffnet, alles sei in Ordnung. Die Knotenpunkte am Körper, die bei der
Akupunktur stimuliert werden, seien damit vergleichbar, sagt Raab. Werden sie
richtig bearbeitet, könnten Leiden bekämpft werden.

"Der Ansatz in China ist ein anderer als im Westen", erzählt Raab. Dennoch sei
das Asiatische kein Allheilmittel. Vielmehr sollten Schul- und chinesische
Medizin zusammenarbeiten. Zum Beispiel bei der Diagnostik: Nicht nur
Maschinen zur Untersuchung, sondern den Patienten betrachten, fühlen, riechen
- und ihm zuhören. Denn ein "bitteres Gefühl im Mund" kann im Westen auf
Leber- oder Magenprobleme hinweisen. Im Osten heißt es aber ganz einfach, daß
der Mensch trauert.
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Völlig abstrus. Doch der Journalist hat die wesentlichen Elemente sinngemäß
durchaus korrekt wiedergegeben. Es ist Raab's Vortrag, der die grauenhaften
Fehler enthält...

Alleine die Idee mit den Kanälen ist bar jeglicher Vernunft. Es ist Tausende
Jahre alter Müll, kolportiert durch Generationen von chinesischen "Ärzten".

Raab behauptet, die Wirkung der therapeutischen Ansätze sei nachweisbar. Doch
dem ist mitnichten so!

Raab behauptet zur Akupunktur: Werden die Knotenpunkte am Körper richtig
bearbeitet, könnten Leiden bekämpft werden. Doch dem ist mitnichten so!

Betrachten wir nur einmal Akupunktur. Die unselige Akupunkturstudie, die immer
noch in Deutschland schwelt, ist ein Rohrkrepierer. Einer der dort teilnehmenden
Ärzte ist wieder ausgestiegen.

Dieser Arzt war zur Ausbildung in China, kennt also die DORT praktizierte
Medizin und die DORT praktizierte Akupunktur.

Dieser Arzt ist ausgestiegen, weil die Akupunkturstudie wissenschaftlich nicht
haltbar ist:

http://www.angelfire.com/sc/naturheilverfahren/GERAC_LWS.htm
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GERAC-LWS-Studie Designmängel ?

Zur Akupunktur-Studie GERAC (http://www.gerac.de) erscheinen
nun erste Veröffentlichungen von Vorab-Ergebnissen
(u.a. ÄZ [Ärztezeitung] 27.2.04: "Ärzte schätzen Akupunktur
besser ein als Patienten ").

Als Studienarzt, der von Anfang an dabei war und insgesamt 41
Patienten rekrutierte (davon waren fast alle
Rückenschmerzpatienten), von denen etwa die Hälfte tatsächlich
eingeschlossen, gescreent, randomisiert, von mir behandelt
und zum Abschluß gebracht wurden, möchte ich folgende
Anmerkungen machen:

Die GERAC-Studie (und im vorliegenden Artikel geht nur um
die prospektive, kontrollierte, randomisierte LWS-Studie, nicht
um die Kohortenstudie) hat evtl. gravierende Designmängel, was
die Gruppe der Rückenschmerzpatienten (chronische LWS-Schmerzen)
angeht. Die Rekrutierung ist seit 2003 beendet, Korrekturen in der
Durchführung deshalb nun unmöglich.

[... folgt Beweisführung ...]

Es stellt sich die Frage, ob dieser Studie (LWS), die den strengen
Erfordernissen der "Good Clinical Practice" unterlag und für
die die Krankenkassen viel Geld ausgaben nicht schwerer Schaden
zugefügt worden ist und ob die Ergebnisse im Rückenschmerzteil
deshalb nicht weitgehend unverwertbar sind.

Eine Schweigeverpflichtung für 7 Jahre, die ich vor Studienbeginn -
wie wohl alle anderen Studienärzte auch - am 21.3.02
unterzeichnen mußte, gebot mir zu schweigen. Jetzt entschloss ich
mich trotzdem an die Öffentlichkeit zu gehen.

(Name)
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Dieser Arzt ist mit einer Erklärung an die Öffentlichkeit gegangen. Wobei sich
herausstellt, daß es mit der Akupunkturstudie eine eigentümliche Bewandtnis
haben muß, denn anscheinend alle Teilnehmer (zumindest dieser Arzt) hatten zur
Teilnahme eine Schweigeerklärung unterschreiben müssen, die ihnen für die Zeit
von 7 Jahren Äußerungen zu Interna der Studie verbietet. 7 Jahre! Was hat man zu
verbergen?

Wenn dieser Arzt TROTZDEM das Redeverbot bricht, dann ganz sicher aus SEHR
wichtigen Gründen.

Die Akupunkturstudie hat (angeblich) gewisse Eigenschaften der Akupunktur
herausgefunden. Im Bereich der Schmerzbehandlung und Anästhesie. Aber selbst
dies ist - VOR ALLEM IM DORT ANGEGEBENEN AUSMASS - offensichtlich
wissenschaftlich zu bezweifeln...

Wenn also Raab behauptet zur Akupunktur, daß bei richtiger Bearbeitung der
Knotenpunkte Leiden bekämpft werden können, dann ist diese Behauptung ganz
sicher falsch, vor allem in ihrer Generalisierung.

Hier liegt auch das allergrößte Problem: Tausende von Jahren altes Gerümpel der
Geschichte ALLUMFASSEND in die HEUTIGE Medizin einpressen zu wollen.

Gefährlich ist es, Raab's Behauptungen zur Diagnose ungeprüft zu lassen. So ist
zum Beispiel die chinesische Idee vom "Sehen, Riechen, Fühlen, Schmecken"
allerprimitivstes Herumraten Allerprimitivster, die weder von Anatomie, noch
Biochemie, noch Infektiologie, noch moderner Pharmazie überhaupt träumen
konnten.

Ihre "Kunst" beschränkte sich darauf, die Farbe des Urins, seinen Geschmack, den
Puls und die Konstellation der Planeten zu beachten - und anderes Irrelevantes.
Mehr war nicht drin. Doch genau dies fordern die Anhänger des chinesischen
Unfugs, Raab und andere eingeschlossen - und sei es auch nur implizit.

So ist neben vielem anderen die chinesische "Pulsdiagnose" reiner Humbug: Der
"Arzt" hält die Hand des Patienten, aber er hat keinerlei elektronische
Diagnostikgeräte, wie sie heute MINDESTENS zu fordern sind.

Ein Patient hat ein RECHT auf einen HEUTIGEN MINDESTSTANDARD zur Diagnose.
Dieser Mindeststandard wird ihm aber bei der "Traditionellen Chinesischen
Medizin" VERWEIGERT.

Diagnoseverweigerung ist eines der schlimmsten Verbrechen der Medizin.

Eine Pseudodiagnose ist keine Diagnose!

Eine Diagnose, die nicht dem heutigen Mindeststandard genügt, ist keine
Diagnose, sondern Pfusch! Darunter fällt ein großer Teil der angeblich
naturheilkundlichen Diagnosen, sei es die chinesische "Pulsdiagnose", sei es das
Pendeln oder sei es das Armdrücken der "Kinesiologen" (siehe
http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_kine.htm)


Raab fordert, die wissenschaftliche Medizin (die er als "Schulmedizin"
verunglimpft) und die chinesische Medizin sollten zusammenarbeiten. Und dies
auch noch bei der Diagnose, siehe den Zeitungsartikel!

Doch wie soll das geschehen? Die "traditionelle chinesische Medizin" hat keine
auch nur im mindesten akzeptablen Diagnosen.

Raab's Anbiederungsversuch an die wissenschaftlichen Mediziner erweist sich als
Trick - und Raab entlarvt sich gleich selbst: In seinem Vortrag, in dem er die
Zusammenarbeit fordert, zieht der gleiche Karl Raab gegen die Ärzte zu Felde
zieht: Er wirft ihnen vor, sie hätten zu wenig Zeit für die Patienten.

Dabei unterschlägt Raab geflissentlich, daß Heilpraktiker (Raab ist einer) für
ihre Arbeit nach ZEIT direkt vom Patienten PRIVAT bezahlt werden, ein Arzt
hingegen von der Krankenversicherung nicht. Würden (Kassen)patienten den Arzt
für dessen aufgewendete Zeit BEZAHLEN, könnten ihnen die Ärzte durchaus MEHR
Zeit widmen.

Um das zu verdeutlichen:
Für das gleiche Geld, das ein Patient PRIVAT einem Homöopathen für den Schwindel
"Erstrepertorisierung" zahlt, behandelt ein wissenschaftlicher Kinderarzt bei
Kassenabrechnung ein Kind 1 oder sogar volle 2 Jahre lang.

Das von Raab ausgewalzte Beispiel für chinesische "Diagnose" des "Geschmacks im
Mund" (siehe als Beweis die Protokollierung durch den Zeitungsartikel) ist ein
rhetorischer Trick. Lokale sprachliche Eigenheiten gibt es nämlich auch in
Deutschland. Wenn jemandem "etwas im Magen liegt", dann ist das auch nicht
gleichbedeutend mit einer Magenverstimmung.

Doch das hat anscheinend keiner der Zuhörer bemerkt. Der exotische Hauch wirkt.

Ich bewundere die Ruhe des Journalisten von der "Nordsee-Zeitung" für seinen
Artikel. Vielleicht liegt sie daran, daß er die Hintergründe nicht kennt...

Vielleicht liegt es vor allem daran, daß er möglicherweise gar nicht auf die
Idee kam, hier könnte etwas nicht stimmen, denn Dr. Wolfgang Rau, der die
Moderation für diesen Tag machte, hatte dem Publikum den Heilpraktiker Karl Raab
(als offensichtlich seit Jahren guten Bekannten) fast wörtlich vorgestellt mit
den Worten: "Was der macht, ist gut."

"Eine Veranstaltung Ihrer Ärzte und Apotheker" - und dann das...

* * *

Wenden wir uns einem anderen Beispiel zu. Im Veranstaltungsprogramm ist für den
6.9.2004 als "Schülerprogramm" angegeben:
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_06.html
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Schülerprogramm:

9:00 - 13:00 Uhr
Berufsinfotest der AOK

9:00 -11:00 u. 11:00 - 13:00 Uhr
Walking - die sanfte Alternative zum Jogging
Bert Nijsen

9:00 -11:00 u. 11:00 - 13:00 Uhr
Verliebt sein - eine elektromagnetische
Wechselwirkung? (ab 9. Klasse)
Ursula Lange
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc5.zip)

Bild: Das "Schülerprogramm" des 6.9.2004

In einer der vorigen "Gesundheitswochen" ist als Vortragender ein Dr. Babilas
aufgetreten. Der behauptete in seinem Vortrag, "Magnetresonanztherapie"
funktioniere. Kein Wunder, er führt sie ja auch durch.

Ein aktuelles Verzeichnis listet ihn als Anbieter:
http://www.magnet-resonanz.de/therapeuten.htm
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27607 Langen

Dr.med. Johannes Babilas, Arzt für Allgemeinmedizin -
Sportarzt - Chirotherapie - Akupunktur -
Magnetfeld-Therapie, Sauerstofftherapie,
Eigenblutbehandlungen, Störfelddiagnose,
Amalgamausleitung

Homepage: www.babilas.de

Kontakt: +49 (0) 4743 / 9296-0;  Fax: -96,  
praxis@babilas.de
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_wo10.zip)

Schon bei der damaligen "Gesundheitswoche" wurde im Ausstellungsraum die
Gerätschaft dazu vorgeführt und zum Kauf angeboten.

Involviert war die Ehefrau des Herrn Babilas. Ebenfalls Arzt. Diese betreibt im
WWW Reklame, siehe :
Homepage: http://www.magnetfeldtherapie-im-norden.de/ 

Das Impressum: http://magnetfeldtherapie.babilas.de/impressum.htm 

Magnetfeld"therapie" zur angeblichen Vorsorge:
http://magnetfeldtherapie.babilas.de/prophylaxe/prophylaxe_informationen.htm

Patientenbericht über einen angeblichen Behandlungserfolg:
http://magnetfeldtherapie.babilas.de/prophylaxe/prophylaxe_anwendungserfolg.htm

Im Google-Cache wird folgendes archiviert:
http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:jT5uLJQ7558J:lange.gp.vita-life.com/Content.
Node2/deutsch/unternehmen/9849.php+babilas+%22vita-life%22&hl=de&ie=UTF-8

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Kundenliste

Dr. med. Johannes Babilas, 47 Jahre
Helga Sancken, 62 Jahre
Dr. med. Eckhard Hiller
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_wo11.zip)

Das Original dieser Seite gehört zur Web-Repräsentanz von
http://lange.gp.vita-life.com/Content.Node2/deutsch/unternehmen/9436.php
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Ursula Lange
Spadener Weg 12
27607 Langen
Telefon: +49-4743-911744
Fax: +49-4743-911745
Mobil: +49-172/4560755
u.lange@vita-life.com
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_wo12.zip)

Auf Seite 7 des Veranstaltungskalenders der "13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven"
ist diese Reklame:

In der Web-Seite des Herstellers "Vita-Life" heißt es zum Geschäftsprinzip:
http://www.vita-life.com/Content.Node2/deutsch/business/9444.php
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Kaufmännische Ausbildung

Die kaufmännische Grundausbildung des
vita-lifer Geschäftspartners beginnt bereits
am Geschäftspräsentationsseminar (GPS),
wo ihm vor seinem Einstieg in das Geschäft
die wichtigsten Grundlagen für seine
zukünftige Tätigkeit vermittelt werden.

Weiterführendes Training erhalten Sie dann
auf den Lead Marketing Seminaren (LMS),
wo Sie begleitend zu Ihrem geschäftlichen
Erfolg laufend die benötigten Fähigkeiten für
den Organisationsaufbau und die Führung
Ihrer eigenen Geschäftspartner erwerben
können.
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_wo14.zip)

Es handelt sich um MLM (Multi-Level-Marketing).

Zu den Geräten, der "Therapie" und der Vertriebsmethode verweise ich auf diese
Web-Seiten:
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Magnete / Magnetfelder
[ Warnung vor Magnetmatratzen ]
[ False Claims Lawsuit Against Makers of "Magnetic" Mattress Pads ]

externe Links zu Dokumentationen anderer Autoren:
[ Stellungnahme des Bundesausschusses der Ärzte und Krankenkassen ]
[ zur Pulsierenden Signaltherapie (PST), [PDF], 653 KB)           ]
[ http://daris.kbv.de/daris/link.asp?ID=1003695448                ]
[ Ärzte betrügen Patienten nach Strich und Faden ]
[ http://ariplex.com/sfb/sfb_magn.htm            ]
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Insbesondere zitiere ich aus
http://ariplex.com/sfb/sfb_magn.htm
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Die Verkäufer rühmen sich, in kürzester Zeit im
Raum Bremerhaven-Bremen-Hamburg und Umgebung mehr
als 3500 Geräte für "Magnetfeldtherapie" abgesetzt
zu haben.

Damit sind bei einem Stückpreis um 5000 DM (2500 Euro)
mehr als 15 Millionen DM in ihre Taschen gewandert.

Beim Einsatz der Geräte in Praxen muß und wird ein
Mehrfaches eingenommen werden. Zu rechnen ist mit
mehr als 100 Millionen DM (50 Millionen Euro), die
den Patienten in Privatliquidation aus der Tasche
gezogen werden für ein bekannt völlig unwirksames Verfahren.
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Die zitierten 3500 Geräte sind der Stand von Ende 2002.

Rund 100 Millionen DM alleine im Dreick Bremen-Cuxhaven-Hamburg... Daraus kann
man ahnen, um welche gigantischen Summen es in ganz Deutschland geht. Und alles,
wohlgemerkt, aus den Taschen der Patienten...

Im Web-Archive findet sich ein Passus aus einer österreichischen
Verbraucher-Zeitung:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030404024928/http://www.konsument.at/seiten/p2497.htm
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Ärzte sind die besten Verkäufer

Der Marktführer vita.life baut längst auf die vertrauensbildende
Wirkung und tragende Rolle der Ärzte - und setzt damit jährlich
fast eine Milliarde Schilling (72,67 Mio. Euro) um. Der Erfolg der
Firma beruht auf dem raffinierten Vertriebssystem. Es ist einem
Pyramidenspiel ähnlich: Je mehr Geräte ein Arzt verkauft und je
mehr Verkäufer er "betreut", desto mehr Prozent Provision streift er
ein. Eine Geldmaschine für alle Beteiligten - bis auf die Patienten.
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Vor allem aber heißt es dort:

(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Studie sagt: kein heilender Effekt

Eine Übersicht, welche Wirkungen der Magnetfeldtherapie in
seriösen klinischen Studien nachgewiesen sind, wurde vom
damaligen Bundesministerium für Gesundheit und
Konsumentenschutz bereits vor zwei Jahren in Auftrag gegeben,
aber erst jetzt [2002] veröffentlicht: Sie kratzt am Positivimage. Mitautor
Dr. Wilhelm Frank: "Den versprochenen Wirkungen liegen keine
entsprechenden wissenschaftlichen Belege zu Grunde. Die vielen
Studien, die genannt werden, sind methodisch nicht in der Lage, den
heilenden Effekt nachzuweisen."
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In Österreich ist der Verkauf der Magnetfeldgeräte durch Laien verboten. Den
Ärzten sind strenge Auflagen gemacht worden. Hierzu verweise ich auf dieses
äußerst aufschlußreiche Protokoll:
http://www1.parlinkom.gv.at/pd/pm/XXI/AB/his/033/AB03387_.html
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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3387/AB (XXI. GP) - Magnetfeldtherapiegeräte;
Werbemaßnahmen; Zulassung von Medizinprodukten und Kontrollen

Anfragebeantwortung durch den Bundesminister für soziale Sicherheit und
Generationen Mag. Herbert Haupt zu der schriftlichen Anfrage (3390/J) der
Abgeordneten Mag. Johann Maier, Kolleginnen und Kollegen an den
Bundesminister für soziale Sicherheit und Generationen betreffend
Magnetfeldtherapiegeräte; Werbemaßnahmen; Zulassung von
Medizinprodukten und Kontrollen
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Der Volltext enthält unter anderem diese Passagen:
http://www1.parlinkom.gv.at/pd/pm/XXI/AB/texte/033/AB03387_.html
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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3387/AB XXI.GP
Eingelangt am: 12.04.2002
BM für soziale Sicherheit und Generationen
Ich beantworte die an mich gerichtete schriftliche
parlamentarische Anfrage Nr. 3390/J der Abgeordneten
Mag. Maier und GenossInnen wie folgt:

Frage 1 bis 4:
Die ärztliche Verschreibungspflicht für die Abgabe von
Magnetfeldtherapiegeräten an Laien wird in einer Verordnung
gemäß  100 des Medizinproduktgesetzes (MPG),
BGBI. Nr. 657/1996 idgF. geregelt.

[...]

Die ärztliche Verschreibungspflicht wird zu einer
fundierteren Indikationsstellung der
Magnetfeldtherapie beitragen und den Wildwuchs an
Indikationen einschränken.

Selbstverständlich muss zusätzlich entschieden
verhindert werden, dass der wissenschaftlich
fundierte Zugang zur Magnetfeldtherapie durch
eventuelle Provisionszahlungen von Firmen an Ärzte
konterkariert wird. Durch die kommende
Verschreibungspflicht wird das im  108 MPG
ausgesprochene Verbot derartiger Vorteilsangebote
bzw. -annahmen im Bereich der Magnetfeldtherapie
unterstützt.

Die geplante Vertriebsverordnung für
Medizinprodukte wird sich nicht spezifisch mit
Magnetfeldtherapiegeräten befassen, soll aber auch
einige Punkte enthalten, die auf
Magnetfeldtherapiegeräte anwendbar sein werden,
wie ein generelles Verbot von Werbepartys,
Werbefahrten und dergleichen für Medizinprodukte
und damit auch für Magnetfeldtherapiegeräte.

Fragen 5 bis 11 und 13:
53 des Ärztegesetzes 1998, BGBI. l Nr. 169,
sieht für Ärzte Werbebeschränkungen und
Provisionsverbote vor.

Gemäß  53 Abs. 1 leg. cit. hat sich der Arzt
jeder unsachlichen, unwahren oder das
Standesansehen beeinträchtigenden Information im
Zusammenhang mit der Ausübung seines Berufes zu
enthalten.

Insbesondere legt die gemäß  53 Abs. 4 leg. cit.
beschlossene Richtlinie der Österreichischen
Ärztekammer "Arzt und Öffentlichkeit" in Art. 3
lit. c fest, dass eine standeswidrige Information
insbesondere dann vorliegt, wenn Ärzte für
Arzneimittel, Heilbehelfe und sonstige
medizinische Produkte sowie für deren Hersteller
und Vertreiber werben. Das Standesansehen wird
jedoch nicht beeinträchtigt und eine "Werbung" ist
dann zulässig, wenn es sich um sachliche und wahre
Informationen über Arzneimittel, Heilbehelfe und
sonstige medizinische Produkte an die eigenen
Patienten und an Kollegen handelt.

Sofern die Einbindung von Ärzten in den "Vertrieb
von Behandlungsgeräten" im vorgenannten Sinn als
Werbung für den Vertreiber dient, handelt es sich
wohl um eine unzulässige, das Standesansehen
der Ärzte beeinträchtigende Handlung.

Weiters ist im gegebenen Zusammenhang insbesondere
auch auf  108 des Medizinproduktegesetzes zu
verweisen, wonach es den Personen, denen im
Zusammenhang mit der Verschreibung, Abgabe,
Beschaffung für Einrichtungen des
Gesundheitswesens, Errichtung, Inbetriebnahme oder
Anwendung von Medizinprodukten Aufgaben zukommen,
untersagt ist, eine Prämie, finanzielle oder
materielle Vorteile zu fordern, sich versprechen
zu lassen oder anzunehmen. Ein Verstoß gegen diese
Bestimmung stellt eine Verwaltungsübertretung dar.

Frage 12:
Gemäß  53 Abs. 2 des Ärztegesetzes 1998 darf der
Arzt keine Vergütungen für die Zuweisung von
Kranken an ihn, oder durch ihn, sich oder einem
anderen versprechen, geben, nehmen oder zusichern
lassen. Rechtsgeschäfte, die gegen dieses Verbot
verstoßen, sind nichtig. Leistungen aus solchen
Rechtsgeschäften können zurückgefordert werden.

Provisionsannahmen verstoßen daher gegen das
Ärztegesetz 1998 und verletzen
jedenfalls das Standesansehen. Sie stellen gemäß  
199 Abs. 3 leg. cit. eine Verwaltungsübertretung
dar, die mit Geldstrafe bis zu 2 180 Euro zu
bestrafen ist, sofern die Tat nicht den Tatbestand
einer in die Zuständigkeit der Gerichte fallenden
strafbaren Handlung bildet.

[..]

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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_wo15.zip)

Da die Magnetfeldgeräte KEINE Heilwirkung haben, ist es folglich unwahr, ihnen
Heilwirkung anzudichten. Somit ist es in Österreich Ärzten verboten, dafür zu
werben.

In Österreich...

Im Ausstellungsraum der "13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven" wird an die Gäste
diese Visitenkarte abgegeben:



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Magnetfeld-Resonanz-Systeme

Gesundheit und Vitalität
auf natürlichem Weg

Einsatzbereiche

- Degenerative Erkankungen
- Waund- und Knochenheilung
- Durchblutungsstörungen
- Herz-Kreislauf-Blutdruck-Störungen
- Rheuma, Arthrose
- Asthma und Bronchitis
- Hautkrankheiten
- Regelschmerzen, PMS
- Schlafstörungen
- Schmerzen
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Wie das, wenn die validen Studien KEINE Wirkung feststellen können!?

Im Ausstellungsraum der "13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven" werden an die Gäste
diese "Gutscheine" kostenlos abgegeben:



Die Gutscheine liegen auf einem Tisch aus, ebenso wie dieses Faltblatt:
Bild: Faltblatt von Vita-Life, Teil 1

Bild: Faltblatt von Vita-Life, Teil 2

Wie das Schülerprogramm

Bild: Das "Schülerprogramm" des 6.9.2004

zeigt, ist es diese Ursula Lange, die dort auftritt.

Thema:
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Verliebt sein - eine elektromagnetische Wechselwirkung? (ab 9. Klasse)
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Über den Vortrag fährt die sich sonst mit Kritik devot zurückhaltende
"Nordsee-Zeitung" in ihrem Artikel vom 7.9.2004 mit ungeahnter Heftigkeit auf:
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Ob das etwas mit Verliebtheit zu tun hat, verriet Ursula Lange nicht.
Sie stellte statt dessen die so genannte Magnetresonanzstimulation vor.
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Der Artikel endet mit:
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Auf Nachfrage der Lehrerin nannte Ursula Lange den Preis einer Ausrüstung:
2500 Euro.

Und ganz zum Schluß fand sie doch noch zum Thema zurück, indem sie die Schüler
aufforderte: "Verlieben Sie sich so oft es geht, das ist die beste Therapie."
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Bild: "Die Nordee-Zeitung" über das "Schülerprogramm" des 6.9.2004, Teil 1

Bild: "Die Nordee-Zeitung" über das "Schülerprogramm" des 6.9.2004, Teil 2

Auch Ärzte sind, wie oben beschrieben, in die Magnet-"Therapien" involviert. So
wurde im Dezember 2002 von einem Bremerhavener Arzt jenes "Vita-Life"-Faltblatt,
das auch Ursula Lange verteilt, in seiner Praxis in Kopie ausgegeben. Ferner
folgendes A4-Blatt:

Bild: Reklame eines Arztes für Magnetfeld"therapie" in Deutschland

* * *

Zur Erinnerung: Die "13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven" ist
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Eine Veranstaltung der
Bezirksstelle der Ärztekammer Bremen mit
der Kassenärztlichen Vereinigung Bremen und
der Apothekerkammer Bremen und
dem Apothekerverein Bremen
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Im Austellungsraum ist auch eine Firma "Morgenland". Esoterik. Klar und
deutlich. Ohne jeden Zweifel.

Zum Beispiel wird dort ein kleines Stück Rosenquarz, als Kugel geschliffen, zum
Preis von 9 Euro verkauft:



Wörtlich heißt es in der Beschreibung des Stücks Rosenquarz:
Vorderseite (Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Negative Strahlen

Computerstrahlen
Elektrosmog * Mikrowellen

Garantie

In dieser Verpackung befindet sich ein
geeigneter echter Rosenquarz
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Rückseite (Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Elektrosmog wird nicht nur durch Geräte, die
augenblicklich in Betriebs sind, oder durch
Überlandleitungen, verursacht, sondern noch viel
mehr durch die Wohnungsverkabelung,
Stand-By-Schaltungen, Radiowecker, Fernseher,
Handys, Mikrowellen-Herde, Radiowecker, Lap-Tops,
Halogen-Lampen, Funksteuerungen, Computermodems,
Drucker, Bildschirme, Antennenverstärker,
Bybyphones, Satellitenempfänger und Computer.
Kinder sind besonders gefährdet. Unsichtbare
elektronische Überspannungen können die Auslöser
für chronische Schmezen, Hormonstörungen,
Allergien, Konzentrationsstörungen,
Lernschwierigkeiten, Aggressionen, Ängste,
Verdauungsstörungen, Herz- und
Kreislaufbeschwerden, Depressionen,
regelbeschwerden, Migräne, Schlafstörungen,
Burn-Out, Krebs, Schwindelgefühle und viele
weiteren Leiden sein. In der Natur-,
Steinheilkunde und in der traditionellen
chinesischen Medizin werden vor und auf
elektronischen Anlagen aller Art Rosenquarze
aufgestellt. Ihnen wird nachgesagt, daß Sie das
zwischenmenschliche Umfeld von Spannungen befreien
und Elektrosmog umlenken, filtern oder Absorbieren
können. Stellen Sie den Rosenquarz so nah wie
möglich am oder auf dem Gerät auf.
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Eine Verkaufsmesse...

Rosenquarz gegen die "negative Strahlung" des Computers.

Die "traditionelle chinesische Medizin", die noch nicht mal ein richtiges
Operationsbesteck kennt oder gar ein Röntgengerät (eines der ersten elektrisch
betriebenen medizinischen Geräte), wird auf dem Opfertisch des Wahnsinns
geschändet als Alibilieferant gegen Computer.

Die "traditionelle chinesische Medizin" kennt nämlich gar keinen elektrischen
Strom!

Im Programm für den 5.9.2004 ist laut Veranstaltungskalender (siehe oben):
http://www.gesundheitswoche.de/programm04_09_05.html
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12.20 - 12.50 Uhr
Klangmassage nach Peter Hess
Ingrid Niewerth
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(gezipptes Beweisstück: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_woc7.zip)

Auch dies wird von "Morgenland" vermarktet:
Bild: "Klangmassage nach Peter Hess", Seite 1

Bild: "Klangmassage nach Peter Hess", Seite 2

"Morgenland" bewirbt des weiteren "Shiatsu", "Reiki" und anderen Unsinn.

Ebenfalls von "Morgenland" beworben wird "Geistheilung". Dazu liegt dieses
Reklame-Faltblatt von Karin Anne Lehmke aus:

Bild: "Geistheilung", Seite 1

Bild: "Geistheilung", Seite 2
Darin heißt es:
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Der Heiler betet und erhebt sein Bewußtsein
auf die Ebene des Göttlichen und verschmilzt
dann sein Wesen mit dem Wesen des Hilfesuchenden,
während er innerlich die Einheit und Vollkommenheit
aller drei Ebenen bejaht.
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So etwas treibt Menschen in die Hände von Sekten - und in die Psychiatrie...

Voll im Trend, also geistig bergab in dumpfeste Tiefen, geht es weiter - mit
Reklame für Astrologie:

Bild: Katalogreklame für Astrologie und Tarotkarten

Doch damit sind wir noch lange nicht am Ende der Reise, siehe diese Reklame,
ebenfalls in einem Katalog, der von "Morgenland" bei der "13. Gesundheitswoche
Bremerhaven" ausgelegt wird:

Bild: Katalogreklame für den Satanisten Aleister Crowley

Zu Aleister Crowley ein Kommentar der "skeptischen Ecke":

http://www.skeptischeecke.de/Worterbuch/Aleister_Crowley/aleister_crowley.html
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Aleister Crowley

Selbsternannter Drogen- und Sexteufel; Verfasser meist
selbstverlegter Bücher über das Okkulte; Dichter;
Anführer eines Kultes namens Ordo Templi Orientis
(OTO), dessen Glaubenssätze er in einem seiner
zahlreichen Werke - Thelema - das ihm angeblich von
einem Geist namens Aiwass eingegeben worden war.

Tu, was du willst, soll das ganze Gesetz sein, ist sein Motto
für den OTO. Praktisch umgesetzt bedeutete das für
Crowley, die traditionelle Moral zugunsten eines Lebens
als Drogensüchtiger und brutaler Vergewaltiger. ("Ich  
tobe; und ich vergewaltige und ich reiße und zerfetze" ist
eine Zeile eines seiner Gedichte. Tagebuch eines
Drogenteufels ist der Titel eines seiner Bücher.) Er
behauptete, er selber sei das Große Tier 666 (aus der
Offenbarung) und genoß den Titel des "verruchtesten
Menschen der Welt". Er hatte zwei Ehefrauen; beide
wurden wahnsinnig. Fünf Geliebte begingen Selbstmord.
Martin Gardner zufolge "endeten Dutzende seiner
Konkubinen als Alkoholikerinnen oder Drogensüchtige
in der Gasse oder in Nervenheilanstalten." [Gardner, S.
198] Aber Crowleys Anziehungskraft war derart, daß die
Frauen, die sich zu ihm hingezogen fühlten, ohnehin
dazu neigten, Alkohol- und Drogenprobleme zu haben
oder emotional gestört zu sein; daher sollte er nicht
beschuldigt werden, die Tugend heiligmäßiger junger
Mädchen zerstört zu haben. Sein Charisma scheint sich
aus zwei Hauptteilen zusammgesetzt zu haben: Er erbte
ein Vermögen und bemühte sich sehr, seltsam zu sein.
Crowleys Magick in Theory and Practice ist in
Okkultistenkreisen ein sehr beliebtes Buch. Als Dover
(amerik. Verlag, d.Ü.) 1990 eine Neuauflage vorbereitete,
bat einer der Herausgeber Martin Gardner, ein Vorwort
zu verfassen; die Ausgabe von 1976 war ein Bestseller
gewesen. Gardner war eine merkwürdige Wahl für das
Vorwort, da er schon in seinem Klassiker Fads and
Fallacies in the Name of Science Crowley als
nichtsnutzigen Betrüger bezeichenet hatte. Wie auch
immer, er schrieb das Vorwort und malte das Bild eines
derart grausamen, verabscheuungswürdigen und
egomanischen Schwindlers, daß Dover sich entschloß,
das Buch nicht neu aufzulegen. Es ist in Gardners On the
Wild Side abgedruckt.
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Sie erinnern sich?: Die "13. Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven" ist
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Eine Veranstaltung der
Bezirksstelle der Ärztekammer Bremen mit
der Kassenärztlichen Vereinigung Bremen und
der Apothekerkammer Bremen und
dem Apothekerverein Bremen
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* * *
 
Am 11.9.2004 schreibt die "Nordsee-Zeitung" auf Seite 18 als Subüberschrift:
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"Veranstalter ziehen positive Bilanz der Bremerhavener Gesundheitswoche
- Selbsthilfegruppen kritisieren Raumaufteilung"
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Die Selbsthilfegruppen kritisieren aber noch mehr. Unter anderem die Esoterik!

Doch die Veranstalter ficht das wenig an, siehe diesen Passus aus dem genannten
Artikel in der "Nordsee-Zeitung":



Wörtlich sagt Claudia Dambeck (von der "Bezirksstelle Bremerhaven der
Ärztekammer Bremen"):
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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"Wir wollen zeigen, daß es neben der Schulmedizin auch alternative
Möglichkeiten gibt", erläutert die Mitorganisatorin daher auch das
Motto der Woche.
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Zur wissenschaftlichen Medizin gibt es keine Alternative!

Doch die Veranstalter
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Bezirksstelle der Ärztekammer Bremen mit
der Kassenärztlichen Vereinigung Bremen und
der Apothekerkammer Bremen und
dem Apothekerverein Bremen
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scheuen sich nicht einmal, hochgradig psychotische und sektoide - und damit die
psychische UND KÖRPERLICHE Gesundheit der Menschen gefährdende - Methoden
einzuschleusen. Alles unter der Überschrift (siehe oben):
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Eine Veranstaltung Ihrer Ärzte und Apotheker
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Weiter:
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Vorwürfe, nach denen einige Referenten ihren Auftritt zur Werbung
missbraucht hätten, bedauert Dambeck: "Sollte es so gewesen sein,
lag es nicht in unserer Absicht".
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Wie bitte!?

Kritik an der Veranstaltung ist nicht neu. Schon seit Jahren gibt es in der
Bremerhavener Ärzteschaft Kritik wegen unerlaubter Werbung - vor allem wegen
Werbung für Scharlatanerie!

Daß Claudia Dambeck "bedauert", ist lächerlich. Denn zum Beispiel die
Verflechtungen der Verkäufer der Magnet"therapie"-Geräte sind der Ärzteschaft
seit Jahren bekannt und werden seit Jahren kritisiert.

Weiter:
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Auch die Selbsthelfer waren nicht ganz zufrieden: "Unser Thema war bei
den Vorträgen nicht vertreten, dafür Esoterik", hieß es mehrfach.
Allerdings wurde eingeräumt, daß die Zeit begrenzt war und daher
ausgewählt werden musste.
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Wieso wurde ÜBERHAUPT Esoterik in die Veranstaltung genommen!? Für Esoterik ist
in der Medizin kein Platz. Esoterik vernichtet Menschenleben.

Das Argument, es sei nicht genug Zeit für alle da, UND IN DER FOLGE damit die
Esoterik zu zementieren, gehört mit zum Dümmsten, das ich seit langem gehört
habe.

Weiter:
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Unter dem Strich zieht Claudia Dambeck für die Ärztekammer
dennoch eine positive Bilanz.
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Wie bitte!? Nach diesem Desaster des Totalversagens!?

Weiter:
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[Dambeck:] Die Gesundheitswoche habe bei der Vorsorge geholfen, vor allem
die Schüler hätten etwas mitnehmen können.
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Mitnehmen? Aber natürlich!: die Visitenkarten der Verkäufer der Magnet-Geräte
und die Reklame, vielleicht sogar noch einen Rosenquarz gegen den Elektrosmog
des Computers? Dazu ein Deck Tarot-Karten des Satanisten Aleister Crowley, auf
daß der Irrsinn Astrologie die Erde beherrsche...

* * *

Außer der "Gesundheitswoche" fand in der gleichen Woche, am 8.9.2004, eine
andere Verstaltung statt: Der "3. Bremerhavener Patienten-Schmerztag".

Auch dort gab es Vorträge, so daß die "Nordsee-Zeitung" am 10.9.2004 darüber auf
Seite 11 berichten konnte:

Bild: Artikel in der "Nordsee-Zeitung" vom 10.9.2004, p11

(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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"Man darf sich nicht nur um den Bandscheibenvorfall kümmern, den die
Computertomografie zu Tage gefördert hat", sagte Struck.
Ärzte sollten ihren Patienten zwar Schmerzmittel verabreichen und
Rehabilitationsmaßnahmen verordnen, zugleich aber auch eine Psychotherapie
oder eine Verbesserung ihrer Arbeitssituation in Betracht ziehen.
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Psychotherapie? Bei rein organischen Schäden? - vielleicht sogar nach Unfällen?
Das hat Methode - und ihre Spur zieht sich quer durch die Krankengeschichte
nicht weniger Patienten. So werden sie, geistig völlig gesunde Menschen, mit
Gewalt des "Gesundheits"systems auch noch psychisch zerstört. Von Ärzten...

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß der im Artikel der "Nordsee-Zeitung"
genannte Klaus Struck der Initiator und Hauptmacher der "Gesundheitswoche" ist.

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß am 4.9.2004 zur Eröffnung der "13.
Gesundheitswoche Bremerhaven" Professor Dr. med. Anlauf einen Vortrag hielt:
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12.25 Uhr
Eröffnungsvortrag: Gesundheit zwischen Magie und Vernunft
Prof. Dr. M. Anlauf.
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"Magie als Kassenleistung?" (http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_anth.htm) ist ein
sehr lesenswerter, für Ärzte ungewöhnlich deutlicher, kritischer Artikel von
Herrn Prof. Bock und Herrn Prof. Anlauf.

Ein Artikel, der - wie man an der "Gesundheitswoche" sieht - bei der
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Bezirksstelle der Ärztekammer Bremen mit
der Kassenärztlichen Vereinigung Bremen und
der Apothekerkammer Bremen und
dem Apothekerverein Bremen
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offensichtlich noch immer nicht angekommen ist...

* * *

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß in Bremerhaven Angebot und Verhalten
gewisser Ärzte in krassem Gegensatz zu ihren gesetzlichen Vorschriften stehen.

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß in Bremerhaven Diagnoseverweigerung kein
seltener Tatbestand ist.

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß in Bremerhaven laut on-dit Ärzte versuchen,
ihre Patienten in Sekten zu ziehen.

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß in Bremerhaven im Ärzteumfeld das
berüchtigte "Familienstellen nach Bert Hellinger" praktiziert wird.
(http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_p0.htm#hellinger)

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß sich dieser Fall in Bremerhaven ereignet
hat:
http://www.ariplex.com/hws/hws_v001.htm

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß sich dieser Fall in Bremerhaven ereignet
hat:
http://www.ariplex.com/hws/hwsriech.htm

Vielleicht sollte ich erwähnen, daß sich dies auch in Bremerhaven ereignet:
http://www.ariplex.com/hws/hws_knie.htm

Die wachsamen Patienten haben schon vor Jahren ihre Schlüsse gezogen:
"Zu einem Arzt in Bremerhaven? Ich bin doch nicht lebensmüde!"

Sie fahren zu Ärzten in Niedersachsen oder Stadt Bremen - oder gleich nach
Hamburg...

Aribert Deckers

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Ergänzung, 16.11.2004:



Bild: Meldung in der Nordsee-Zeitung vom 15.11.2004, p19

 

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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 14:25 GMT
>>Your so-called mind?  
>
> What I have in mind? Oh, perhaps about telling you this story

Your stories are neverending crap.  There's no remedy for your ignorance.

Just go get your damn vaccine.
Martin - 11 Oct 2009 16:42 GMT
>>>Your so-called mind?  
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Just go get your damn vaccine.

Hey, that is a familiar sentence! Methinks that O.Pearl is Tools in
disguise.
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 19:13 GMT
>>>Your so-called mind?  
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Just go get your damn vaccine.

You are just too stupid to understand even the most simple basics of science.

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O.pearl - 12 Oct 2009 15:47 GMT
>>>>Your so-called mind?  
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You are just too stupid to understand even the most simple basics of science.

No. You're religiously adhering to scientific dogma.  Try doing some research.
Happy Oyster - 12 Oct 2009 21:01 GMT
>You're religiously adhering to scientific dogma.  Try doing some research.

You are talking insane crap.
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O.pearl - 13 Oct 2009 14:45 GMT
>>You're religiously adhering to scientific dogma.  Try doing some research.
>
> You are talking insane crap.

The fool sees naught but folly; and the madman only madness.

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Happy Oyster - 13 Oct 2009 20:50 GMT
>>>You're religiously adhering to scientific dogma.  Try doing some research.
>>
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>
>- Kahlil Gibran (1883 - 1931)

Another abused quote.

And, still Carol Hubbard is not able to present ANY valid proof for her health
claims.

She is selling crap.
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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:43 GMT
>>>>You're religiously adhering to scientific dogma.  Try doing some research.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> She is selling crap.

Projection.  QED.
Peter Bowditch - 11 Oct 2009 21:35 GMT
>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>that homeopathically prepared biological substances give off electromagnetic
>waves and therefore have effects.

Professor Montagnier has 9 publications listed in PubMed. None of them
relate to homeopathy.

Citation please, and no, Dana Ullman saying something does not make it
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O.pearl - 12 Oct 2009 14:35 GMT
>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>that homeopathically prepared biological substances give off electromagnetic
>>waves and therefore have effects.

"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
dilutions as high as 10(-18) (equivalent to 18X).  The EM signature changed
with dilution levels but was unaffected by the initial concentration and remained
even after the remaining DNA fragments were destroyed by chemical agents.

Of additional interest was the researchers' observation that they observed the
SAME results whether their initial concentration of cells were just 10 or 10(9)
(this is 10 to the 9th power = 10,000,000,000 cells)."

Click here for the full report from Dana Ullman MPH

<links at link>
http://homeopathyresource.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/2008-nobel-prize-winner-prove
s-homeopathic-remedies-are-active/


> Professor Montagnier has 9 publications listed in PubMed. None of them
> relate to homeopathy.

'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
researchers used aqueous solutions that were agitated and serially diluted
(the researchers note that the solutions were "strongly agitated" and that
this step was "critical for the generation of signals").
..'
http://www.homeopathic.com/articles/view,134

> Citation please, and no, Dana Ullman saying something does not make it
> so.

http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

Bob Officer - 12 Oct 2009 16:20 GMT
>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
><links at link>
>http://homeopathyresource.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/2008-nobel-prize-winner-prove
s-homeopathic-remedies-are-active/

You need to look at what they are talking about.

It is pure speculation after the point this is said:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/0557v31188m3766x/fulltext.pdf
<cite>
"The emission of such waves is likely to represent a resonance
phenomenon depending on excitation by the ambient electromagnetic
noise."
</cite>

Looking at their diagram what they were recieving/detecting was a
variation of the reluctance/reactance from the change of dialectic
constant.

What they have done was re-invented the Thermin.

http://120years.net/machines/theremin/index.html

The vial being tested only need a slight different Dialectic Constant
to make a change in the reactant of the turned circuit. Even a minor
Temperature difference in the solutions would make a change in the
output wave form.

Not place int he published report id the experimenters attempt to
test their  work in a Faraday Cage to isolate the "ambient LF Radio
noise".

>> Professor Montagnier has 9 publications listed in PubMed. None of them
>> relate to homeopathy.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

http://120years.net/machines/theremin/index.html

Sorry, No Banana for you today.

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O.pearl - 12 Oct 2009 17:40 GMT
>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> test their  work in a Faraday Cage to isolate the "ambient LF Radio
> noise".

'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
of the reading system was first recorded (coil alone, coil with a tube filled
with water). Fourier analysis shows (Fig. 2(c, d)) that the noise was
predominantly composed of very low frequencies, probably generated at
least in part by the 50/60 Hz ambient electric current. The use of the 12 V
battery for the computer power supply did reduce, but not abolish this
noise, which was found to be necessary for the induction of the resonance
signals from the specific nanostructures.

When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).

Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).

The first low dilutions were usually negative, showing the background
noise only. Positive signals were usually obtained at dilutions ranging
from 10(-5) to 10(-8) or 10(-12). Higher dilutions were again negative
(Fig. 3).

The positive dilutions varied according to the type of filtration, the
20 nM filtrate being generally positive at dilutions higher than those of
the 100 nM filtrate. The original unfiltered suspension was negative at
all dilutions, a phenomenon observed for all the microorganisms studied.
..
Evidence for homologous \cross talk" between dilutions

We then wonder whether or not it was possible to generate new signal-
emitting structures from tube to tube by using wave transfer. The following
experiment which was repeated several times showed that indeed this was
the case.

A donor tube [continues]
..
At the high dilution of 10(-13), calculations indicate that there is no DNA
molecule of MW larger than 10(5) in the solution, making it unlikely that
the EMS are produced directly by the DNA itself, but rather by the
self-sustained nanostructures induced by the DNA.
..'
http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna


>>> Professor Montagnier has 9 publications listed in PubMed. None of them
>>> relate to homeopathy.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Sorry, No Banana for you today.

You have no bananas.
Happy Oyster - 12 Oct 2009 20:51 GMT
>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces

That is plain bullshit.

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O.pearl - 13 Oct 2009 14:45 GMT
>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
>
> That is plain bullshit.

"There are petty-minded people who cannot endure to be reminded of their
ignorance because, since they are usually quite blind to all things, quite foolish,
and quite ignorant, they never question anything, and are persuaded that they
see clearly what in fact they never see at all, save through the darkness of
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Happy Oyster - 13 Oct 2009 20:49 GMT
>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>see clearly what in fact they never see at all, save through the darkness of
>their own dispositions."  - Magdeleine Sable (c. 1599 - 1678)

Interesting that the criminals, who rip off people, try to cover up by using
such quotes.
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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:30 GMT
>>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Interesting that the criminals, who rip off people, try to cover up by using
> such quotes.

Projection.
Bob Officer - 13 Oct 2009 16:23 GMT
>>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>noise, which was found to be necessary for the induction of the resonance
>signals from the specific nanostructures.

That supports my claim fully. they recorded nothing more than
variations in background noise.

>When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
>the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
>amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
>(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
>was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
>sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).

in other words they isolated the container from background EM. This
took care of most of the LF stuff but not the ULF background.

>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
>for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).

The change of dielectric constant in the dilution would account for
that.

>The first low dilutions were usually negative, showing the background
>noise only. Positive signals were usually obtained at dilutions ranging
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
>You have no bananas.

You and they have no idea what they are doing. The Signals they are
recording are being generated by the equipment itself. and being
picked up by the leads.

Idiots. Being watched by morons.

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Happy Oyster - 13 Oct 2009 20:43 GMT
>>>>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Idiots. Being watched by morons.

Exactly. They are stupidly messing up with the equipment. The happy colourful
screen prints are so nice... and so they are pasted together to give beautifully
colourful papers...

Like children in the kindergarten.
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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:24 GMT
>>>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
> That supports my claim fully. they recorded nothing more than
> variations in background noise.

They recorded the resonance signals from the specific nanostructures.

>>When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
>>the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in other words they isolated the container from background EM. This
> took care of most of the LF stuff but not the ULF background.

The container shielded the EM signals being emitted from detection.

>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
>>for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
>
> The change of dielectric constant in the dilution would account for
> that.

An increase in frequencies and amplitude of EM waves, in the dilutions.

>>The first low dilutions were usually negative, showing the background
>>noise only. Positive signals were usually obtained at dilutions ranging
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> Idiots. Being watched by morons.

Nonsense and ad hominem.  Too funny.
Bob Officer - 15 Oct 2009 19:35 GMT
>>>>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
>
>They recorded the resonance signals from the specific nanostructures.

That is their dubious if not false claim.

They recorded changes in resonances due the change of dialectic
medium.

The claim of resonance is still not proven.

They did not eliminate the simple change of dielectric constant which
happened when the diluted.

When you start using high amplification techniques and start claiming
significant signal from noise, you start ignoring simple fact that
the ratio of usable data to noise decreases inversely with the
increase of amplification. That is there is going to be a point when
turning up the volume will not increase the quality of data.

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O.pearl - 16 Oct 2009 13:32 GMT
>>>>>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
> increase of amplification. That is there is going to be a point when
> turning up the volume will not increase the quality of data.

'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).

Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).

The first low dilutions were usually negative, showing the background
noise only. Positive signals were usually obtained at dilutions ranging
from 10(-5) to 10(-8) or 10(-12). Higher dilutions were again negative
(Fig. 3).

The positive dilutions varied according to the type of filtration, the
20 nM filtrate being generally positive at dilutions higher than those of
the 100 nM filtrate. The original unfiltered suspension was negative at
all dilutions, a phenomenon observed for all the microorganisms studied.
..
Evidence for homologous \cross talk" between dilutions

We then wonder whether or not it was possible to generate new signal-
emitting structures from tube to tube by using wave transfer. The following
experiment which was repeated several times showed that indeed this was
the case.

A donor tube [continues]
..
At the high dilution of 10(-13), calculations indicate that there is no DNA
molecule of MW larger than 10(5) in the solution, making it unlikely that
the EMS are produced directly by the DNA itself, but rather by the
self-sustained nanostructures induced by the DNA.
..'
http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

Bob Officer - 16 Oct 2009 16:27 GMT
>>>>>>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>>>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 87 lines]
>was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
>sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).

I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.

>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
>for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).

That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.

>The first low dilutions were usually negative, showing the background
>noise only. Positive signals were usually obtained at dilutions ranging
>from 10(-5) to 10(-8) or 10(-12). Higher dilutions were again negative
>(Fig. 3).

The Dielelct constant as low Fq usually doesn't allow current to pass
or pass at such a low amount large amplification.

>The positive dilutions varied according to the type of filtration, the
>20 nM filtrate being generally positive at dilutions higher than those of
>the 100 nM filtrate. The original unfiltered suspension was negative at
>all dilutions, a phenomenon observed for all the microorganisms studied.
>..
>Evidence for homologous \cross talk" between dilutions

No Evidence of the change in particle size  show a change in
dielectric constant. It is no sign of communication or cross talk
between solutions.

>We then wonder whether or not it was possible to generate new signal-
>emitting structures from tube to tube by using wave transfer. The following
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>..'
>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

Wrong. They are just playing with dielectric solutions.

I predict laughter as RF and AF engineer read this article.

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Happy Oyster - 16 Oct 2009 17:46 GMT
>>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

>
>Wrong. They are just playing with dielectric solutions.
>
>I predict laughter as RF and AF engineer read this article.

Can you hear me? ;O)

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Bob Officer - 17 Oct 2009 01:14 GMT
>>>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Can you hear me? ;O)

All the way over here.

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Happy Oyster - 17 Oct 2009 01:50 GMT
>>>>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>All the way over here.

YUP! ;O)
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O.pearl - 18 Oct 2009 23:25 GMT
..
>>>>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
>>>>>>of the reading system was first recorded (coil alone, coil with a tube filled
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
> what you think.

The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.

>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
> Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.

You think you know it all.  This is new technology.  Patent application:

'(WO/2007/071856) THERAPEUTIC TREATMENTS ASSOCIATED
WITH A METHOD FOR CHARACTERISING A BIOLOGICALLY
ACTIVE BIOCHEMICAL ELEMENT BY ANALYSING LOW-
FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC SIGNALS
..
ROBERT, Bruno; (FR).
..
Abstract:(EN) The use of an optionally modified electromagnetic signal
emitted by a dilute and filtered biological medium with a view to inhibiting
or substantially modifying said signal by exposing said medium to the
amplified electromagnetic signal using a solenoid is described. An apparatus
for implementing said use, including one or more solenoids for sensing the
electromagnetic signals emitted by the biological medium, a circuit for
processing said signals in order to break them down by means of a Fourier
transform into main frequencies, and a circuit for generating inhibition signals,
is also described.
..'
http://www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007071856

And of course we've already seen evidence for the efficacy of homeopathy.
Happy Oyster - 18 Oct 2009 23:33 GMT
>The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.

Except for the holes.
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O.pearl - 18 Oct 2009 23:47 GMT
> Except for the holes.

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Happy Oyster - 18 Oct 2009 23:55 GMT
>> Except for the holes.
>
>Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
>cheerleader Desiree Jennings

That is bullshit. You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
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O.pearl - 19 Oct 2009 00:04 GMT
>>> Except for the holes.
>>
>>Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
>>cheerleader Desiree Jennings
>
> That is bullshit.

That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.

> You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
> claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!

Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
Happy Oyster - 19 Oct 2009 00:28 GMT
>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.

No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.

>> You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
>> claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
>
>Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.

Prove, that the enclose had no holes!

And do have an explanation for cables.... ;O)
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O.pearl - 19 Oct 2009 13:38 GMT
>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.

Projection.

>>> You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
>>> claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
>>
>>Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
>
> Prove, that the enclose had no holes!

It's your ludicrous claim that it did.  You're a moron.  QED.
Martin - 19 Oct 2009 17:23 GMT
>>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>It's your ludicrous claim that it did.  You're a moron.  QED.

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Put a sock in it. Or a fist up your rectum. You seem to like that:
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Happy Oyster - 19 Oct 2009 19:20 GMT
>>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>It's your ludicrous claim that it did.  You're a moron.  QED.

Me a moron? Well, well, stupid laymen (who even insist on their stupidity) are
absolutely clueless to high-frequency electrical effects. Even more stupid,
because in the drawing by Montagnier the cables are shown. ;O)

Life is weird at the left end of the IQ-scale. ;O)

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O.pearl - 23 Oct 2009 13:35 GMT
>>>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Me a moron?

QED.
Happy Oyster - 25 Oct 2009 18:32 GMT
>>>>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>QED.

You liar left out the important part of my post:

Me a moron? Well, well, stupid laymen (who even insist on their stupidity) are
absolutely clueless to high-frequency electrical effects. Even more stupid,
because in the drawing by Montagnier the cables are shown. ;O)

Life is weird at the left end of the IQ-scale. ;O)

You are deep in the quicksand. Very deep.
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O.pearl - 04 Nov 2009 21:57 GMT
>>>>>>>>> Except for the holes.
>>>>>>>>
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>
> You

You.  Lying moron.  Enjoy, quacky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIjm9w_-tNY
Bob Officer - 19 Oct 2009 06:52 GMT
>..
>>>>>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
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>
>The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.

You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment doesn't Know what they are doing or
measuring.

>>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
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>
>You think you know it all.  This is new technology.  Patent application:

No, it isn't new technology.

A patent application is part of the process. For every patent
application made, do you know how many are actually granted? The
claim of new technology is only a CLAIM.

This not only show you do not understand what this men are doing, but
you do not understand the patent process.

>'(WO/2007/071856) THERAPEUTIC TREATMENTS ASSOCIATED
>WITH A METHOD FOR CHARACTERISING A BIOLOGICALLY
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>
>And of course we've already seen evidence for the efficacy of homeopathy.

It isn't evidence anything and just because a patent application is
made doesn't mean the object works.

Every year the US Patent Office has nearly 1000+ applications made
for zero point energy devices. It does not mean the devices work as
claimed.

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O.pearl - 19 Oct 2009 13:44 GMT
>>..
>>>>>>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
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> people running this experiment doesn't Know what they are doing or
> measuring.

Projection.

>>>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
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>
> No, it isn't new technology.

Yes it is.  And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham.
Bob Officer - 20 Oct 2009 06:09 GMT
>>>..
>>>>>>>>>'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
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>
>Projection.

Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.

>>>>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>>>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
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>
>Yes it is.  And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham.

Sorry O.P. You know as little about RF signals as you do patent law.

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O.pearl - 23 Oct 2009 13:34 GMT
..
>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
>>>>>>the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
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>
> Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.

-Your- experience.  

>>>>>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>>>>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
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>
> Sorry O.P. You know as little about RF signals as you do patent law.

'The term patent usually refers to a right granted to anyone who invents
or discovers any new and useful process, machine, article of manufacture,
or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent

Translation of an interview with the inventor, Robert Bruno:

'Bruno Robert ensures that the patent could open a new field of science,
that of digital biology. He hopes his invention will one day be a way to stop
the progression of diseases such as AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's
disease.  
..
Bruno:
It was noted that some biological activities emit electromagnetic vibrations.
Biology is not a matter of molecules that come into contact with each other.
Biology is clearly also some waves and exchange of signals. This discovery,
which throws a bridge between biology and physics, allows us to better
understand the origin of certain diseases and allergies. And maybe to treat
them one day. It would be a revolution against the current medicine.

You were the inventor of electromagnetic tools. What led you to follow
the work of Jacques Benveniste?

I became passionate for his work in 1997 because I was working at the
time on a sensor of biological activity, after dropping seven patents in the
electromagnetic field. I did my military service with a son of Jacques fifteen
years earlier. It is through him that I started to become interested in his work
and he in mine. Jacques asked me to join him in early 2004. He noted the
existence of electromagnetic events, a sort of "noise" emitted by biological
materials.
..
What did you discover exactly?

After his death (on 3 October 2004), I developed a method to isolate in these
noises, in this brouhaha, specific frequencies. The study of these waves, once
captured, allowed me to discover the existence of a real electromagnetic
signature. It is as if some had a biological fingerprint "sound", an imprint vibration
that allows us to recognize them.

What can it serve?

This allows for example to identify in the blood of a sick person the family of
micro-organisms causing an infection. It also helps to understand scientifically
how homeopathic products work: they act simply by emitting waves that
neutralize the disease.

Which therapies do you foresee?

We can imagine that we could diagnose certain diseases by identifying their mark,
then treat them by emitting another electromagnetic signal.

With what types of diseases could this work?

We have seen a characteristic signal was present in the blood of AIDS patients,
Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, rheumatoid arthritis, of multiple sclerosis ... In
addition, we also suspect that electromagnetic latent trace in the blood to be
responsible for some nosocomial infections. We work on the use of signals such
as to counteract these diseases in the blood.

This digital biology you describe is challenging all the foundations of medicine
today ... If you're right, it is revolutionary.

It is much too early to trumpet such a revolution. We want to disseminate these
techniques in many laboratories for them to verify. This will be only after a long
period of overlap that the scientific community could decide.

Luc Montagnier predicts a therapeutic vaccine against AIDS, in four or five years,
something which no one really believed in anymore. How do you explain this
acceleration of research?

It is possible that this announcement reflects the interest that Prof. Luc Montagnier
had for some time in the work of Jacques Benveniste and his team, and this gave
him access to new keys to understanding life. I would add that we ourselves have
achieved initial results in vitro in this direction, which are very encouraging for the
research against AIDS.

http://www.vih.org/actu-sites/20090310/sida-guerre-secrete-pour-brevet-siecle-2622
Bob Officer - 24 Oct 2009 02:13 GMT
>..
>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
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>
>-Your- experience.  

Actually it is the body of science which backs me, not these to
idiots playing in an area they have zero expertise. The source and
cause for the signals is well known.

All one has to do is open a 1960 or 1970 text book on AC impedance
and how Change in Dielectric constant effects Impedance. It isn't
taught any most electronics classes anymore because with modern
electronics, integrated circuits, most of the worry about impedances
has gone away. Most designers follow cookbook standards now without
ever knowing why they put to tantalum caps in the designs.

>>>>>>>Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
>>>>>>>frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
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>or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.'
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent

It isn't new. It is called a 'derivative work'. There are already
preexisting patents for the identical device in records and
published/ You have to go back to about 1954 or 1955 IIRC.

>Translation of an interview with the inventor, Robert Bruno:
>
>'Bruno Robert ensures that the patent could open a new field of science,
>that of digital biology. He hopes his invention will one day be a way to stop
>the progression of diseases such as AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's
>disease.  

Standard Blather.

>..
>Bruno:
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>
>http://www.vih.org/actu-sites/20090310/sida-guerre-secrete-pour-brevet-siecle-2622

Sure... I think I'll wait until after the patent fight is over.

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O.pearl - 24 Oct 2009 15:49 GMT
>>..
>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
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> Actually it is the body of science which backs me, not these to
> idiots <continued 'know-it-all' quackpot blather>

'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am

(NaturalNews) In working to protect the business interests of vaccine
manufactures, both the FDA and FTC have declared all-out war against
any products that might offer consumers options other than vaccines.
This week, that war against natural remedies reached the shores of
Dr. Andrew Weil, who is perhaps the best-known alternative medicine
doctor in America. In an intimidating, threatening letter jointly issued by
the FTC and the FDA, these rogue government agencies threatened
Dr. Weil with criminal prosecution for making true statements about his
immune-boosting formula such as, "Astragalus ... is ... used traditionally
to ward off colds and flu, and has demonstrated both antiviral and
immune-boosting effects in scientific investigation."

This statement, although scientifically valid and true, is a threat to the
profits of the vaccine industry, and so Dr. Weil's company is being
targeted by the FTC / FDA vaccine racket tag-team for termination.

You can review the FTC threats against Dr. Weil on the FTC's own website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm186837.htm

Some of the threats leveled against Dr. Weil by the FTC include:

* Forcing Dr. Weil's company to refund ALL customers who purchased
his immune support formula. (For no apparent reason other than to burden
his company with such costs.)

* Subjecting Dr. Weil's company with "legal action in the form of a Federal
District Court injunction or Administrative Order."

* Gunpoint seizure of ALL of Dr. Weil's nutritional products: "If your firm
fails to take corrective action immediately, FDA may take enforcement
action, such as seizure or injunction for violations of the FFDC Act without
further notice."

* Subjecting Dr. Weil and his company to criminal prosecution: "Firms that
fail to take corrective action may also be referred to FDA's Office of
Criminal Investigations for possible criminal prosecution for violations of the
FFDC Act and other federal laws."

* Adding Dr. Weil's company to a list of companies that have been found
in "violation" of the FFDC Act.

These threats are signed by the top fearmongers running the censorship
racket at both the FTC and FDA:

/Mary K. Engle Associate Director, Division of Advertising Practices
Federal Trade Commission Roberta F. Wagner Director, Office of
Compliance Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition Food and
Drug Administration/

Do you now see what a criminal racket the vaccine industry is running in
America by invoking these tactics of tyranny? This is the kind of thing you
might expect to see in China, where government officials arrest Falun Gong
members who attempt to meditate in public, but you wouldn't think that in
the United States of America -- "Land of the Free" -- you'd be threatened
with arrest and financial ruin for simply /telling the truth/ about a powerful
herb with scientifically-validated medicinal properties.

The FTC's dangerous double standard

This FTC / FDA letter claims Dr. Weil has been promoting his immune-
boosting formula "...without rigorous scientific evidence sufficient to
substantiate the claims."

This might be taken with some level of seriousness if, in fact, the vaccine
makers had any such evidence to substantiate their own claims that flu
vaccines work at all. But as NaturalNews readers have already learned,
flu vaccines are a scientific hoax lacking any honest evidence that they
actually work. In fact, all the evidence points to the reality that they don't
work. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html)

The FTC, you see, applies a completely different standard of proof against
dietary supplements than to vaccines. According to FTC staff, "...the FTC
Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 41 et seq., requires that claims that a dietary
supplement can prevent, treat, or cure human infection with the H1N1 virus,
must be supported by well-controlled human clinical studies at the time the
claims are made."

And yet, at the same time, *there are no well-controlled human clinical
studies backing the efficacy of vaccines*. They simply don't exist.

Thus, vaccines can be approved based on /wishful thinking/ while dietary
supplements must be subjected to "rigorous scientific study."

Enslaved by the medical regime

How is that fair? It isn't. The game is rigged from the start to allow drugs
and vaccines to be sold based on the flimsiest of evidence while natural
remedies are routinely suppressed by holding them to an impossible
standard.

This is similar to the way in which blacks were prevented from voting in
America throughout the 20th century. The people who controlled the
voting booths would issue "IQ tests" to anyone who tried to vote. The
tests were rigged to fail all blacks while allowing whites to easily pass
(and therefore vote).

The whole system was rigged from the start to create the illusion of
fairness even though the outcome had already been pre-decided. This
same brand of racism is now operating in modern medicine, except it's
/drugism/ instead of racism. But the outcome has already been decided
by the FDA just the same: All natural products will be denied, while all
vaccines will be approved. This is how the system is rigged.

Just so you understand how ludicrous this is, what the FTC / FDA tag-
team is saying is that herbs, superfoods and other natural substances
that are naturally biocompatible with your body are, in essence, /guilty
until proven innocent/. Meanwhile vaccines made in a lab with synthetic
chemicals, mercury derivatives and DNA fragments from diseased
animals are considered /safe and effective by default, even in the
absence of any real science/. Do you see how twisted and dangerous
this whole system has become?

Censoring true statements to silence natural health proponents

Both the FTC and FDA have a long history of using tactics of extreme
intimidation in an attempt to censor people who provide natural remedies
that compete with sales of pharmaceuticals. When a doctor can't even
make a true scientific statement about the medicinal properties of an
herb without being threatened by the FTC, it's a sure sign that what was
supposed to be a regulatory agency has now become a criminal racket
serving the interests of Big Pharma.

Here's one statement the FTC / FDA letter "accuses" Dr. Weil of
making: "Astragalus ... is ... used traditionally to ward off colds and flu,
and has demonstrated both antiviral and immune-boosting effects in
scientific investigation."

Is there anything false in that statement? Anything misleading? Not in the
least. It's a statement backed by reality. Astragalus does, indeed, have
powerful antiviral and immune-boosting properties. It works better than
vaccines, in fact, at protecting people from the flu. See a long list of
supporting statements from experts on this very topic right here: (http://www.naturalnews.com/027302_astragalus_the_flu.html)

And yet for daring to make this simple, true statement on the internet,
Dr. Weil has been threatened by the FTC with criminal prosecution.
Our own U.S. government has threatened to arrest him, destroy his
business, criminally prosecute him, confiscate his products, financially
ruin his company and add him to a list of "violators." That sounds more
like Nazi Germany than America, doesn't it? Yet it's happening in
America right now.

What other "crimes" has Dr. Weil committed? He dared to make a
second true statement about astragalus:

"The synergistic combination of immune modulators [found in the
Immune Support Formula] is especially useful for those who tend
to get every bug that goes around during the winter."

Once again, another true statement. It's like saying "vitamin C boosts
immune function," or "vitamin D helps prevent cancer." Both are true
statements, but both have been outlawed in America by the FTC
racket. The truth, simply put, has been outlawed in America (and in
Europe, too, for the most part. This censorship of natural remedies is
global...)

FTC / FDA thugs and crimes against humanity

If you really think about what's going on here with the FTC / FDA
intimidation tactics, you realize that *if a pandemic really does start to
kill people, it is these FTC / FDA bureaucrats who will have blood
on their hands*.

Why? Because even in a time when prescription anti-virals don't work,
and vaccines are in short supply (and don't work anyway), these
government thugs are running around silencing and intimidating the very
people offering /real solutions/ for immune system protection. When the
virus mutates, rendering the vaccines worthless, and the anti-virals are
long gone, *how are Americans supposed to protect themselves against
a pandemic virus?* The FTC and FDA have made certain that all
available "natural" options have been eliminated! Hospitals have been
instructed to turn people away. The CDC has instructed states to stop
tracking the H1N1 swine flu altogether.

*In other words, these health authorities are hanging the American
people out to dry.* They're betraying the very people they claim to serve.

Should a pandemic unfold that really starts to kill a large number of people,
these two agencies will be directly contributing to the deaths of people who
could have been saved by natural remedies like Astragalus, or Reishi
mushrooms, or Vitamin D, or other nutritional products. And while you may
not call that murder, it is precisely the definition of /negligent homicide/.
FTC and FDA officials /are killing Americans/ with their continued assault
on natural medicine that saves lives. I call it a crime against humanity.

And they're doing it for one reason: To protect a corrupt, quack-science
vaccine industry whose products were only approved via fraud, in direct
violation of U.S. law
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027258_vaccines_flu_vaccine.html).

The "protection" racket -- it's all for your protection

To hear them say it, though, they're "protecting" people:

"FDA is taking urgent measures to protect consumers from products that,
without approval or authorization by FDA, claim to diagnose, mitigate,
prevent, treat or cure H1N1 Flu Virus in people."

At the same time, of course, the only products that receive approval from
the FDA are vaccines and prescription medications. *The FDA's official
position is that there is no such thing as any herb, any plant, any nutrient or
any dietary supplement that has any beneficial effect on the human body*.
As ridiculous as this sounds, it is precisely the current position of the FDA!
Thus, no herb, plant, nutrient or supplement can EVER be approved by
the FDA to protect against influenza.

As you've figured out, the whole game is rigged from the start. Herbs that
have anti-viral properties will never be approved as anti-virals. And, frankly,
for the people running natural product companies to try to play the "FDA
game" is useless. *You can never appease tyranny*. Trying to "conform"
to the requirements of the FDA and FTC is like Jewish prisoners trying to
conform to the wishes of Hitler. You've been condemned from the start!
Stop playing their game... stop bowing down to the false authority of the
FTC and FDA. Only a handful of health product companies like Daniel
Chapter One have demonstrated the courage to fight tyranny and take a
stand for health freedom
(http://www.naturalnews.com/026970_health_the_FTC_freedom.html).

The FDA isn't interested in what works to stop the flu. It's is only interested
in propping up the quack profits of one industry at any cost. And one day,
that cost may be extracted in terms of *dead Americans* who could have
been saved with natural remedies like Dr. Weil's immune support product.

And that, my friends, is what makes the FDA a criminal racket. It is being
operated today as a blatant criminal enterprise that directly contributes to
the suffering and death of the American people. These bureaucrats would
rather see helpless victims die than lose a dollar of profit for Big Pharma.
They have sold out the American people for the almighty dollar. Truth be
damned.

It's time to end this medical police state

When true statements about botany are outlawed, and the only statements
allowed to be made about H1N1 flu protection are based on profit-driven
lies, and the very leaders who try to help the People (like Dr. Weil) are
threatened with being arrested as criminals and having their companies shut
down at gunpoint, *that's when you know you live in a "1984"-style medical
police state.*

In American medicine today, you don't live in a free society. You don't
have a free choice about medicine. You are given the false choice of which
vaccine to take: Nasal or Injection. That's the choice you've been given.
All other options (anti-viral herbs, homeopathy, vitamin D, etc.) are being
eliminated "for your protection."

For all those who voted for Obama, by the way, keep in mind this
criminal FDA racket continues to operate in full swing under the Obama
administration, just as it did under the Bush Administration. Sadly,
Obama has done absolutely nothing to halt the tyranny against natural
product companies. In fact, under Obama, this action has been
accelerated by the FTC and FDA. It's worse now than ever before, and
with Big Government getting even bigger -- and more lawmakers calling
for /increased FDA funding/ -- this problem is only bound to get worse.

The U.S. Justice Department recently nailed Pfizer with a $1.3 billion
criminal fine after prosecuting the company for paying kickbacks to
doctors and committing marketing fraud
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027276_Pfizer_drugs_the_FDA.html).
My only question is:*When will the Justice Department investigate and
prosecute the criminals at the FDA and FTC* who are putting the lives
of Americans at risk by destroying the natural product industry precisely
as we face a global pandemic?

Sources for this story include:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm186837.htm
Steelclaws - 26 Oct 2009 17:44 GMT
> (NaturalNews)

Not a reliable source.

In a letter to the WHO in June, the medics from the UK and Africa
said: "We are calling on the WHO to condemn the promotion of
homeopathy for treating TB, infant diarrhoea, influenza, malaria and
HIV.

"Homeopathy does not protect people from, or treat, these diseases.

"Those of us working with the most rural and impoverished people of
the world already struggle to deliver the medical help that is
needed.

"When homeopathy stands in place of effective treatment, lives are
lost."

Dr Robert Hagan is a researcher in biomolecular science at the
University of St Andrews and a member of Voice of Young Science
Network, which is part of the charity Sense About Science campaigning
for "evidence-based" care.

He said: "We need governments around the world to recognise the
dangers of promoting homeopathy for life-threatening illnesses.

"We hope that by raising awareness of the WHO's position on homeopathy
we will be supporting those people who are taking a stand against
these potentially disastrous practices."

'No evidence'

Dr Mario Raviglione, director of the Stop TB department at the WHO,
said: "Our evidence-based WHO TB treatment/management guidelines, as
well as the International Standards of Tuberculosis Care do not
recommend use of homeopathy."

The doctors had also complained that homeopathy was being promoted as
a treatment for diarrhoea in children.

But a spokesman for the WHO department of child and adolescent health
and development said: "We have found no evidence to date that
homeopathy would bring any benefit.

"Homeopathy does not focus on the treatment and prevention of
dehydration - in total contradiction with the scientific basis and our
recommendations for the management of diarrhoea."

Dr Nick Beeching, a specialist in infectious diseases at the Royal
Liverpool University Hospital, said: "Infections such as malaria, HIV
and tuberculosis all have a high mortality rate but can usually be
controlled or cured by a variety of proven treatments, for which there
is ample experience and scientific trial data.

"There is no objective evidence that homeopathy has any effect on
these infections, and I think it is irresponsible for a healthcare
worker to promote the use of homeopathy in place of proven treatment
for any life-threatening illness."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8211925.stm
O.pearl - 04 Nov 2009 20:34 GMT
>> (NaturalNews)
>
> Not a reliable source.

Because you say so? :).  Check the 'credibility' of your own sources..

> In a letter to the WHO in June, the medics from the UK and Africa
> said: "We are calling on the WHO to condemn the promotion of
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> Network, which is part of the charity Sense About Science campaigning
> for "evidence-based" care.

'Sense About Science
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> He said: "We need governments around the world to recognise the
> dangers of promoting homeopathy for life-threatening illnesses.
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>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8211925.stm

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack on Homeopathy

VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

We the undersigned are outraged at the way the World Health Organization has
allowed itself to be coerced by the Sense About Science Voices of Young
Science into condemning the use of homoeopathy in developing countries.

This condemnation comes after what appears to be blind acceptance by WHO
of the contents of a single letter from 'young scientists' living in the UK in June.
VoYS is an offshoot of Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

WHO appears to have made no efforts at all to establish the veracity of the claims
of VoYS or to check with the homoeopaths in the named countries on what they
are doing, their treatment policies or the results they are having in treating patients
with a wide range of conditions.

There is an increasing body of evidence in favour of homoeopathy's effectiveness.
The respondents from WHO's various departments, in their rush to fulfill the
'Young Scientists' request to condemn homoeopathy, apparently are not aware
of, or have chosen to overlook, the positive results of many research studies.

A recent high quality trial by the prestigious, WHO qualified facility, the Finlay
Institute in Cuba, involving two and a half million people, found homoeopathy to
be extremely effective in the prevention of Leptospirosis (Dr. Concepción Campa
Huergo report to Finlay Institute 'Nosodes 2008 conference' December 2008,
to be published).

A trial conducted by Quebec homoeopathy organization in partnership with
McGill University in Honduras found homoeopathy effective in preventing and
treating parasitic Chagas disease (Martine Jourde report to Finlay Institute
'Nosode 2008 conference' December 2008).

Three studies that show homoeopathy is effective in the treatment of childhood
diarrhea. Furthermore, counter to the uninformed claim of Joe Martines, on
behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, WHO Department of Child and
Adolescent Health and Development, rehydration was included in the protocol
of the trials (See below).

A pilot study in Ghana showing homoeopathic treatment equal to and slightly
more effective than chloroquine in the treatment of acute malaria (Br Homoeopath
J 1996Apr;85(2):66-70).

The Stanford study treating tuberculosis in HIV patients resulted in significant
improvement in patients receiving homeopathic immunotherapy (Stanford,
Comm Br Hom Res Grp Dec 1992 22 30-9).

Furthermore, the WHO department directors have ignored the rich and well
documented history of homoeopathy's success in treating major worldwide
epidemics of cholera, influenza (including the 1918 epidemic), yellow fever and
many other serious epidemics. Homoeopathy has a well developed approach
to epidemics which mean homoeopaths can respond rapidly to an epidemic
infectious disease.  In light of these and more studies of homoeopathy and the
extreme challenge of emerging drug resistant epidemics in developing countries,
it is cause for wonder why WHO itself has not sponsored research into
homoeopathy treatment.

Homoeopaths operate in a complementary way to conventional medicine, they
do not recommend stopping any prescribed conventional medicines.  Treatment
results of patients in the developing countries where homoeopathy is used are
impressive. Patients are happier and healthier and despite the constraints of lack
of funding from established research foundations, studies are being undertaken
and proving homoeopathy's effectiveness.

In 2005 the World Health Organization proposed an extremely positive report
on homoeopathy and its potential in the developing world noting that it is cost
effective, has no side effects, and above all is positively health enhancing.  It was
only after pressure from critics of Complementary and Alternative medicine to
revise it, that the report was held back and despite considerable revision it has
still not been published.

The VoYS has issued a press release to the media that widely publicises the
statements from the WHO Departmental Heads. VoYS has stated that they will
be contacting the Health Ministries of every country to tell them of the opinion
of WHO and discourage the use of homoeopathy in order to accomplish their
mission to stopping the use of homoeopathy altogether.   VoYS has presented
the communication from WHO as a public announcement from WHO and as a
way to pressure countries to alter their internal health policies.

Is this the intention of WHO ?  Does WHO condone other organizations speaking
and acting on its behalf in such a way??

We have several questions for WHO.

How can you allow your organisation to appear to condemn homoeopathy on
the basis of one letter by an antagonistic lobby that receives funding from the
pharmaceutical industry and without first checking the facts?

How can you reverse your own previous recommendations without verification
and dialogue?

Why when all over the world doctors, scientists and patients are choosing
homoeopathy because of their positive experience in regaining health, does
WHO decide to condemn homoeopathy?   How is the WHO statement and
the subsequent contact by VoYS to be received by countries such as India,
where homoeopathy doctors have a long and respected record of treating all
diseases, including epidemics?

Why when Ministries of Health in many developing countries have responded
to the requests of their own citizens to make homoeopathy a registered medicine,
does WHO choose to lend their authority to the dedicated campaign of an anti-
homoeopathy group located in the UK?

The citizens of Switzerland recently voted in a national referendum to include
homoeopathy as one of their medical choices.  Should the poor sick of Ghana,
Botswana, Swaziland, Tanzania, Brazil, Cuba, Thailand and other developing
countries, living in rural areas with little or no access to other medicines, be
deprived of this safe and affordable choice?   How can WHO allow, through
the contents of one arbitrary letter, removal of freedom of choice from the
people who need it most?  Is this not an issue of basic human rights?

The VoYS press release, which was further distorted by the BBC, has gone to
the media throughout the world under the headline of "WHO Warns Developing
Countries against Homoeopathy." This is a deliberately inflammatory, malicious
and false declaration that appears to have the backing of WHO.  As a role
model of good health and disease treatment to the world, we appeal to WHO
not to let commercial powers and vested interests of a small vocal group influence
your stated goal of bringing the "highest possible level of health" to all the people
of the world.

We urge you to reverse your premature and apparently unconsidered
condemnation of homoeopathy --a safe, effective and cost-effective therapeutic
option for developing countries.

Please give health a chance!

Yours truly

"Homoeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method of
treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical and most complete
medical science."  Mahatma Gandhi

3 Research studies childhood diarrhoea: Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea
in Nicaragua
This trial involved 81 children aged from 6 months to 5 years in a randomised,
double-blind trial of intravenous fluids plus placebo versus intravenous fluids plus
homoeopathic remedy individualised to the patient. The treatment group had a
statistically significant decrease in duration of diarrhoea.
Jacobs J. Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea with homoeopathic medicine:
a randomized clinical trial in Nicaragua. Pediatrics 1994; 93: 719-725.

Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea, repeated in Nepal
In a replication of a trial carried out in Nicaragua in 1994, 116 Nepalese children
aged 6 months to 5 years suffering from diarrhoea were given an individualised
homoeopathic medicine or placebo. Treatment by homoeopathy showed a
significant improvement in the condition in comparison to placebo.
Jacobs J., Jimenez M., Malthouse S., Chapman E., Crothers D., Masuk M.,
Jonas W.B., Acute Childhood Diarrhoea- A Replication., Journal of Alternative
and Complementary Medicine, 6, 2000, 131-139.

A meta-analysis of childhood diarrhoea trials
This meta-analysis of 242 children showed a highly significant result in the
duration of childhood diarrhoea (P=0.008).
J. Jacobs, WB Jonas, M Jimenez-Perez, D Crothers, Homoeopathy for
Childhood Diarrhea: Combined Results and Meta-analysis from Three
Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial, The Pediatric Infectious Disease
Journal, 22 (3): 229-234, March 2003.

Homeopathic treatment of patients with chronic sinusitis: A prospective
observational study with 8 years follow-up  27th July 2009
Witt, Ludtke, Willich.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6815/9/7

Homeopathic Individualized Q-potencies versus Fluoxetine for Moderate
to Severe Depression: Double-blind, Randomized Non-inferiority Trial
U. C. Adler, N. M. P. Paiva, A. T. Cesar, M. S. Adler, A. Molina, A. E.
Padula and H. M. Calil
eCAM Advance Access published online on August 17, 2009
http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

http://www.similima.com/gen244.html
Bob Officer - 26 Oct 2009 20:07 GMT
>>>..
>>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> Actually it is the body of science which backs me, not these to
>> idiots <continued 'know-it-all' quackpot blather>

But you consider it blather, I suggest you learn a bit more about the
current science of dielectrics and what these two clowns were doing.

I expect no patent to be issued to them.

I would suggest you read:

Dielectrics in Electric Fields
Gorur G. Raju
University of Windsor- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Published in 2003.

The phenomena is explained there in.

>'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
>H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am

and it should. Making false claims as a curitive or preventive
properties is against the Law in the US. That's why crooks and
scammers, like Clark, run their operations in Mexico and other third
world nations, where Graft is a open practice.

>(NaturalNews)
More like Clownnews.

Mike should have to visit the sick children here in California and
across the nation because poorly informed people are listening to him
and his crackpot friends and not getting vaccinated for the H1N1.

Last week a healthily child died in Sonoma County, California and
hundreds of his school mates are sick from H1N1 flu. Three different
high schools are closed. I understand last week we went from 78
school closures to 198 overnight due to the h1n1 flu outbreak.

This type of early activity, in the Flu season, makes it appear that
all the a.s-clowns at naturalnews were wrong about the H1N1 flu being
mild, and not life threatening.

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O.pearl - 04 Nov 2009 21:51 GMT
..
>>>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
>>>>>>>>>>the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> But you consider it blather, I suggest you learn a bit more about the
> current science of dielectrics and what these two clowns were doing.

You don't know what they were doing, clown.

> I expect no patent to be issued to them.

It already has.  Duh.

> I would suggest you read:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The phenomena is explained there in.

Is Bruno's 2006 research/innovation/invention explained in there too?

>>'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
>>H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> More like Clownnews.

Quackpotspeak.

> Mike should have to visit the sick children here in California and
> across the nation because poorly informed people are listening to him
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> all the a.s-clowns at naturalnews were wrong about the H1N1 flu being
> mild, and not life threatening.

"A rise in influenza cases is to be expected as we enter the winter months
but fortunately, for most, H1N1 is mild and symptoms shouldn't persist
longer than a week.
..'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8342616.stm

'There have been 81 children who have died from H1N1 in the US.
These of course are tragic.

How many pediatric deaths occurred in children who:

- Were positively lab confirmed as H1N1;

- Had underlying chronic immune and brain dysfunction

- Were fully vaccinated according to CDC recommendations

- Had received influenza vaccine this year

- Had received seasonal influenza vaccine in previous years

- Received Tamiflu or another anti-viral prior to death

- Had a coinciding bacterial infection with H1N1

- Were never vaccinated - totally unvaccinated
...
(There is a new Canadian study that suggests those who have gotten seasonal
influenza vaccines in the past may be at greater risk for getting H1N1 swine
flu. This information reinforces NVIC's call for a comparison of the long term
health outcomes of vaccinated and unvaccinated children).
..
What is unknown is whether the massive amount of vaccine exposure in the
US population has critically weakened people's ability to mount an effective
immune response to novel infections like H1N1.
..'
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/Special-Swine-Flu-
Update.aspx


'UC Davis Study With Mice Links Thimerosal With Immune System
Dysfunction. Main Category: Immune System / Vaccines Article Date:
24 Mar 2006 - 10:00 PDT ...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/40052.php

'2008/11/1

Two reports this week showed the flu vaccine may not be effective in
preventing health problems in children.

One study revealed that flu shots in the past two seasons did not reduce
doctor visits or the risk of hospitalization for flu in children age 5 and
younger. Another showed that MRSA, or methicillin-resistant
Staphylococcus aureus (a sometimes fatal drug-resistant bacteria that can
accompany the flu), as opposed to the flu itself, is a main contributor to
the growing number of child deaths attributed to influenza.
..
MRSA is a drug-resistant superbug that can piggyback on the flu and
can cause outbreaks of deadly pneumonia. Secondary infections increase
the risk of death from the flu more often than the flu itself.
..
1.  The majority of flu shots contain 25 micrograms of mercury, an amount
considered unsafe for anyone weighing less than 550 pounds! And which
groups are most sensitive to the neurological damage that has been associated
with mercury? Infants, children, and the elderly.

2.  The above study published in the October issue of the Archives of Pediatric
& Adolescent Medicine found that vaccinating young children against the flu
appeared to have no impact on flu-related doctor visits or hospitalizations
during two recent flu seasons.

At first glance, the data did suggest that children between the ages of 6 months
and 5 years derived some protection from the vaccine in these years. But after
adjusting for potentially relevant variables, the researchers concluded that
"significant influenza vaccine effectiveness could not be demonstrated for any
season, age, or setting."

3.  The new policy ignores a large-scale, systematic review of 51 studies,
published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews in 2006, that found
no evidence the flu vaccine is any more effective for children than a placebo.
The studies involved 260,000 children, age 6 to 23 months.
..'
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/01/why-flu-shots-for-
kids-don-t-work.aspx

Bob Officer - 05 Nov 2009 05:07 GMT
>..
>>>>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>You don't know what they were doing, clown.

I read their paper. The explanation is there in print. They are two
clowns playing with other people's money.

>> I expect no patent to be issued to them.
>
>It already has.  Duh.

No it wasn't, it was applied for, not yet granted.

>> I would suggest you read:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Is Bruno's 2006 research/innovation/invention explained in there too?

Surprisingly, yes it is. That why the work is called derivative. It
isn't new and isn't not unique.  

>>>'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
>>>H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>'There have been 81 children who have died from H1N1 in the US.
>These of course are tragic.

Actually a few more than that.

Sort of trying to side step the discussion aren't you.

Since you know little of electronics and the testing they did, you
are trying to sidestep the discussion.

How cowardly.

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O.pearl - 08 Nov 2009 14:31 GMT
>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> I read their paper. The explanation is there in print. They are two
> clowns playing with other people's money.

Projection.  There's no detailed explanation in the paper of the
device used to capture and analyze the electromagnetic signals.  

>>> I expect no patent to be issued to them.
>>
>>It already has.  Duh.
>
> No it wasn't, it was applied for, not yet granted.

How do you know that?  

>>> I would suggest you read:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Surprisingly, yes it is. That why the work is called derivative. It
> isn't new and isn't not unique.  

Support your claim.

>>>>'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
>>>>H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Actually a few more than that.

'*Mercury Exposure = Increased Vulnerability*

Chronic mercury exposure is also a threat to our health and makes us
especially vulnerable to flu infections. It has been shown that "prolonged
exposure of mammals (white mice) to low mercury concentrations (0.008 -
0.02 mg/m3) leads to a significant increase in the susceptibility of mice to
pathological influenza virus strains. This is shown by more severe course of
infection. In the experimental group more mice died (86 - 90.3 %) than in
the unexposed animals (60.2 - 68 %), additionally the experimental group
died more quickly. The significant difference was in the appearance and
degree of pneumonia in the effected animals," wrote Dr. I. M. Trakhtenberg
in *Chronic Effects of Mercury on Organisms.*

Though everyone in the northern hemisphere is contaminated with mercury
health officials have a mental block against suggesting anything that might
reduce total mercury body burden. Though some dedicated health activists
are cracking the FDA's endorsement of mercury dental amalgam it will take
a Martian death ray to get them to protect the public from the obvious.
Natural chelation methods work safely to remove mercury but unfortunately,
if this is the dreaded flu outbreak, there will be little time to reduce mercury
levels. Much can still be accomplished with the emergency protocol
suggested below. Mercury exposure will make flu symptoms worse and
even more dangerous, and that is one reason the flu vaccine is deadly
because most brands include thimerosal, which almost fifty percent mercury.
..
Dr. Eleanor McBean, lived through the 1918 Influenza epidemic, and
testified, "As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those
who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all
the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. There was seven times
more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated
civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against."

Vaccines, especially when given in multiple quantities in one sitting certainly
have the potential to throw a person or child's body out of balance as can
nutritional deficiencies, dehydration, lack of exercise or a lack of sun and
vitamin D. Almost everyone today is magnesium deficient, certainly every
Mexican who eats white rice!
..
12. Ensure you avoid all mercury-containing seafood or any other sources
of mercury, as the heavy metal is a very powerful inducer of autoimmunity,
is known to make people more susceptible to viral infections and will be
in H1N1 vaccines.
..'
http://annetteafarr.photium.com/news12461.html
Bob Officer - 08 Nov 2009 23:35 GMT
>>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>Projection.  There's no detailed explanation in the paper of the
>device used to capture and analyze the electromagnetic signals.  

Toots, that what radio receivers do. It isn't new or novel.

>>>> I expect no patent to be issued to them.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>How do you know that?  

the patent files are public and searchable records. the is only
filed. it takes anywhere from 2 to 5 years or more to receive a
patent in just about any country.

>>>> I would suggest you read:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Support your claim.

I did. Bruno's work is the support.

>>>>>'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
>>>>>H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>>
>> Actually a few more than that.

And now O'pearl shifts subject once again. When she can not refute,
she shifts the subject. This is her third shift.

>'*Mercury Exposure = Increased Vulnerability*

I bet next she will try to cite whale.to,
Any takers.

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Happy Oyster - 12 Oct 2009 20:43 GMT
>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
>
>Sorry, No Banana for you today.

;O)
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Peter Bowditch - 12 Oct 2009 21:02 GMT
>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
>http://lucmontagnierfoundation.org/montagnier/article-26-electromagnetic-signals
-are-produced-by-aqueous-nanostructures-derived-from-bacterial-dna

Just as I thought. Nothing to do with homeopathy except in the
diseased minds of some true believers.

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O.pearl - 13 Oct 2009 14:43 GMT
..
>>'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
>>researchers used aqueous solutions that were agitated and serially diluted
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Just as I thought. Nothing to do with homeopathy except in the
> diseased minds of some true believers.

'The entire process of making a Homeopathic medicine consists of the following steps:

Selection of raw material

Trituration of raw material if insoluble in water or alcohol (Grinding with mortar and pestle)

Preparation of liquid potencies by dilution and succussion
..'
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_info/hahnemann_labs_preparation.html

"Those who wish to appear wise among fools among the wise seem foolish."
- Marcus Fabius Quintilian (c. 35 - 95)
Peter Bowditch - 13 Oct 2009 22:16 GMT
>..
>>>'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>"Those who wish to appear wise among fools among the wise seem foolish."
>- Marcus Fabius Quintilian (c. 35 - 95)

Like I said, the Montagnier work had nothing to do with homeopathy.
Thank you for confirming my opinion.

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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:44 GMT
>>..
>>>>'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Like I said, the Montagnier work had nothing to do with homeopathy.
> Thank you for confirming my opinion.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
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Peter Bowditch - 16 Oct 2009 00:33 GMT
>>>..
>>>>>'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
>LOL!!!!!!!!!

Exactly! It is laughable that anybody could consider that the
Montaigner work has anything to do with homeopathy, let alone it
validating the nonsense.

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O.pearl - 16 Oct 2009 13:34 GMT
>>>>..
>>>>>>'Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Montaigner work has anything to do with homeopathy, let alone it
> validating the nonsense.

More laughable nonsense.
Bob Officer - 13 Oct 2009 16:32 GMT
>>>>'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
>>>>Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>Just as I thought. Nothing to do with homeopathy except in the
>diseased minds of some true believers.

I read the report and it looked to me like the people in question had
never studied impedence/reactance/or feed back in RF or AC circuits
in their lives. And they are think the tech people are below paying
attention.

Anyone that has worked with any sort of amps and rf/audio circuits
can see all they are doing is measuring a change in dielectric
constant/reluctance/impedence as the dilution changes. there were
given a hint at the attempt to filter out the noise with a copper
sheet. I wonder why that didn't light up their clue light?

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Happy Oyster - 12 Oct 2009 21:06 GMT
>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from

That is crap.
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O.pearl - 13 Oct 2009 14:37 GMT
>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>
> That is crap.

"Nothing so obstinately stands in the way of all sorts of progress as pride
of opinion; while nothing is so foolish and baseless. - Jeffrey R. Holland (1940 - )
Happy Oyster - 13 Oct 2009 20:47 GMT
>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>
>> That is crap.
>
>"Nothing so obstinately stands in the way of all sorts of progress as pride
>of opinion; while nothing is so foolish and baseless. - Jeffrey R. Holland (1940 - )

To believe in what Carole Hubbard claims, is a real big stupidity.
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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:26 GMT
>>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> To believe in what Carole Hubbard claims, is a real big stupidity.

Carole Hubbard, whoever she is, certainly left a big impression on you.  :)
Happy Oyster - 15 Oct 2009 21:19 GMT
>>>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Carole Hubbard, whoever she is, certainly left a big impression on you.  :)

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The only thing impressive with Carole Hubbard is her stupidity.
And her advertising and selling of pseudomedical bullshit.
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O.pearl - 16 Oct 2009 13:46 GMT
>>>>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> <quote>
> Domain Name: CELLSALTS.NET

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/cellsalts.htm

Looks interesting.  A type of nutritional supplementation.

> The only thing impressive with Carole Hubbard is her stupidity.
> And her advertising and selling of pseudomedical bullshit.

Projection.  You attack everything that threatens sales of pharmacrap.
Bob Officer - 16 Oct 2009 16:30 GMT
>>>>>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Projection.  You attack everything that threatens sales of pharmacrap.

Carole is stupid!

Silicon Dioxide is not a salt. and is not soluble by any acid in the
human body.

If you think that bullshit is interesting, then you must be stupid
yourself.

We can see you have no idea what is happening with Regenerative RF/AF
signals in and changes of Dielectric constant
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O.pearl - 18 Oct 2009 23:40 GMT
>>>>>>>>"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
>>Projection.  You attack everything that threatens sales of pharmacrap.

ad hominem snipped

> Silicon Dioxide is not a salt. and is not soluble by any acid in the
> human body.

In this context "salts" refers to minerals, or combinations of minerals.

'Twelve cell salts were recognized and categorized by a German biochemist
William H. Schuessler in 1873.  He found that there are certain essential
minerals that the body requires, in proper balance, in all of its cells.  An
imbalance or a lack of any of these minerals may lead to disease in the tissues
so lacking. Providing the missing minerals to the tissues corrects that imbalance,
and so eliminates the illness.  
..'
http://www.doctoryourself.com/cell_salts.html

... And hence your predictable opposition to it, quackpot #3.
Happy Oyster - 18 Oct 2009 23:43 GMT
>'Twelve cell salts were recognized and categorized by a German biochemist
>William H. Schuessler in 1873.  

That is bullshit. Schüßler was a naturopath, who toyed with homeopathy.
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> That is bullshit.

Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization
For Flu, Study Suggests

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm

ScienceDaily (May 20, 2009) --- The inactivated flu vaccine does not
appear to be effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations
in children, especially the ones with asthma. In fact, children who get
the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than their peers
who do not get the vaccine, according to new research that will be
presented on May 19, at the 105th International Conference of the
American Thoracic Society in San Diego.

Flu vaccine (trivalent inactivated flu vaccine---TIV) has unknown
effects on asthmatics.

"The concerns that vaccination maybe associated with asthma
exacerbations have been disproved with multiple studies in the past, but
the vaccine's effectiveness has not been well-established," said Avni
Joshi, M.D., of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. "This study was aimed
at evaluating the effectiveness of the TIV in children overall, as well
as the children with asthma, to prevent influenza-related hospitalization."

The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual influenza
vaccination for all children aged six months to 18 years. The National
Asthma Education and Prevention Program (3rd revision) also recommends
annual flu vaccination of asthmatic children older than six months.

In order to determine whether the vaccine was effective in reducing the
number of hospitalizations that all children, and especially the ones
with asthma, faced over eight consecutive flu seasons, the researchers
conducted a cohort study of 263 children who were evaluated at the Mayo
Clinic in Minnesota from six months to 18 years of age, each of whom had
had laboratory-confirmed influenza between 1996 to 2006. The
investigators determined who had and had not received the flu vaccine,
their asthma status and who did and did not require hospitalization.
Records were reviewed for each subject with influenza-related illness
for flu vaccination preceding the illness and hospitalization during
that illness.

They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three
times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not
received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly
higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV, as
compared to those who did not (p= 0.006). But no other measured
factors---such as insurance plans or severity of asthma---appeared to
affect risk of hospitalization.

"While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the
vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of
hospitalizations," said Dr. Joshi. "More studies are needed to assess
not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different
influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects."

Adapted from materials provided by American Thoracic Society, via
EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.
O.pearl - 18 Oct 2009 23:58 GMT
> That is bullshit.

Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization
For Flu, Study Suggests

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm

ScienceDaily (May 20, 2009) --- The inactivated flu vaccine does not
appear to be effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations
in children, especially the ones with asthma. In fact, children who get
the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than their peers
who do not get the vaccine, according to new research that will be
presented on May 19, at the 105th International Conference of the
American Thoracic Society in San Diego.

Flu vaccine (trivalent inactivated flu vaccine---TIV) has unknown
effects on asthmatics.

"The concerns that vaccination maybe associated with asthma
exacerbations have been disproved with multiple studies in the past, but
the vaccine's effectiveness has not been well-established," said Avni
Joshi, M.D., of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. "This study was aimed
at evaluating the effectiveness of the TIV in children overall, as well
as the children with asthma, to prevent influenza-related hospitalization."

The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual influenza
vaccination for all children aged six months to 18 years. The National
Asthma Education and Prevention Program (3rd revision) also recommends
annual flu vaccination of asthmatic children older than six months.

In order to determine whether the vaccine was effective in reducing the
number of hospitalizations that all children, and especially the ones
with asthma, faced over eight consecutive flu seasons, the researchers
conducted a cohort study of 263 children who were evaluated at the Mayo
Clinic in Minnesota from six months to 18 years of age, each of whom had
had laboratory-confirmed influenza between 1996 to 2006. The
investigators determined who had and had not received the flu vaccine,
their asthma status and who did and did not require hospitalization.
Records were reviewed for each subject with influenza-related illness
for flu vaccination preceding the illness and hospitalization during
that illness.

They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three
times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not
received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly
higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV, as
compared to those who did not (p= 0.006). But no other measured
factors---such as insurance plans or severity of asthma---appeared to
affect risk of hospitalization.

"While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the
vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of
hospitalizations," said Dr. Joshi. "More studies are needed to assess
not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different
influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects."

Adapted from materials provided by American Thoracic Society, via
EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.
Peter Bowditch - 09 Oct 2009 14:41 GMT
>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies

Prove that.

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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 16:49 GMT
>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
>
> Prove that.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sense+About+Science%22+funded+by+pharmaceutica
l+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA
_en

Martin - 09 Oct 2009 16:57 GMT
>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
>>
>> Prove that.
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sense+About+Science%22+funded+by+pharmaceutica
l+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA
_en

You can't even search their own site?
http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/other/130/

By the way, out of curiosity, how much practice does it take to be
able to take an entire fist up your rectum?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Pearl
Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 18:21 GMT
>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
>>
>> Prove that.
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sense+About+Science%22+funded+by+pharmaceutica
l+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA
_en

That is no proof, but only bullshit.
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 20:56 GMT
>>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That is no proof, but only bullshit.

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/ScannedAccounts/Ends14\
0001101114_ac_20070405_e_c.pdf

Happy Oyster - 09 Oct 2009 21:40 GMT
>>>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>http://www.charity-comm

Bullshit.

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_rep1.htm
<quote>
Repertorium hydrargyrum
Wie man Kranken Quecksilber verkauft
19.10.2001
Sind Sie krank? Leiden Sie an einer der folgenden Krankheiten oder haben
folgende Symptome?:
Tabelle 1
Adnexitis
Angina
Colica mucosa und Colitis
Darmkolik
Diphterie
Dysenterie
Eiterungen
Ekzem
Endometritis und Metritis
Exsudative Diathese
Gastroenteritis
Gelenkrheumatismus
Gingivitis
Glossitis
Gonorrhoe
Hordeolum
Karzinom
Keratitis
Kopfschmerz und Migräne
Krämpfe
Luesfolgen
Lymphadenitis und Lymphangitis
Mastitis
Milchschorf
Nephritis und Nephrose
Neuralgie
Neuritis
Ohrensausen
Osteomalacie und Osteomyelitis
Otitis media
Ozaena
Paradentose
Parotitis
Phlebitis
Phlegmone
Proktitis
Prostatahypertrophie und Prostatitis
Ptyalismus
Pyelitis und Pyelonephritis
Reizblase
Scarlatina
Seborrhoe
Septische Prozesse
multiple Sklerose
Soor
Stomatitis
Sykosis
Tabes dorsales
Tonsillarabszeß
Trigeminusneuralgie
Urethritis
Zahnkaries
Zahnschmerzen
Was haben die oben genannten Krankheiten/Beschwerden/Symptome mit einander
gemein?
Das können Sie herausfinden zum Beispiel mit einem kleinen Buch mit dem Titel
"Homöopathisches Repetitorium"

Arzneimittellehre in Tabellenform
Herausgegeben von der Deutschen Homöopathie-Union
Pharmazeutisch überarbeitet
Nachdruck

Deutsche Homöopathie-Union . Karlsruhe
Dort finden Sie (in der Ausgabe von 1994 ab Seite 318) ein "Register der
Hauptindikationen".
Was stellen Sie fest?: Alle oben genannten Krankheiten/Beschwerden/Symptome
werden von Homöopathen mit Quecksilber
"behandelt"...
Quecksilber, ein Gift, vor dem überall gewarnt wird, ausgerechnet QUECKSILBER
soll in Medikamenten sein? Ja, es ist. Leider.
Überzeugen Sie sich selbst!
Einen kleinen Hinweis möchte ich Ihnen bei der Suche nach dem Buch geben:
Dieses Repetitorium
ist nur zur Abgabe
an Fachkreise bestimmt
Dieser Vermerk befindet sich auf der 2. Umschlagseite.
Warum dieses? Vielleicht, weil die Patienten sonst dahinterkommen könnten, was
ihnen zugemutet wird?
Im Detail handelt es sich um folgende Formen/Verbindungen von Quecksilber:
(Die Seitenzahl bezieht sich auf die Ausgabe von 1994, aus der die Daten
entnommen sind)
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
Tabelle 2
Mercurius bijodatus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Mercurius jodatus ruber
Hydrargyrum bijodatum rubrum
Quecksilberjodid

HgJ2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
SV Lösung = D3

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D4, D6, D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6, D8, D15

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei Anginen und Adnexitis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen, Adnexe, im übrigen wie bei Mercurius solubilis.

Anginen im akuten und chronischen Stadium, besonders wenn die
regionären Lymphdrüsen stark geschwollen sind. In diesem Fall
gutes Unterstützungsmittel der Serumtherapie bei Diphterie. Bei
chronischer Tonsillenhyperplasie täglich 2 Tabletten D4 für etwa
6 Wochen. Ferner gut wirksam bei akuter und subakuter Adnexitis.

AMB und Leitsymptome wie unter Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius cyanatus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Hydrargyrum cyanatum
Mercuricyanid
Quecksilbercyanid
Hg(CN)2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1
Lösung = D2

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4
Gebräuchliche Ampullen       : D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei der malignen Diphterie oder Angina und deren Komplikationen.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Tonsillen und Mundhöhle, Leber und Nieren.

Mercurius cyanatus gehört zu den hochtoxischen Hg-Verbindungen.
Neben der Serumtherapie ist es besonders zur zusätzlichen
Behandlung bei Diphterie oder schwerer Angina zu empfehlen,
wenn diese Krankheiten einen malignen Charakter mit starken
Nekrosen oder Gangraeneszenz annehmen und offensichtlich auf
die parenchymatösen Organe, besonders Leber und Niere, toxisch
zu streuen scheinen. Vorsichtige Dosierung! Mercurius cyanatus D6
genügt meist. Eventuell mit Lachesis Amp. D8 bis D12 oder
Chinacea (Urtinktur) kombinieren. Das AMB entspricht im übrigen
dem von Mercurius solubilis (siehe dort).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius dulcis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 202)
Calomel
Mercurius chloratus
Hydrargyrum chloratum
Quecksilberchlorür
Hg2Cl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4,D3
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8

Hepatopathie, Hepatitis, Cholecystitis, Ikterus, akute
Gastoenteritis, Metalues.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Leber, gallenblase, Darm, Bindegewebe.

Mercurius dulcis ist bei passendem AMB (siehe unter Mercurius
solubilis) besonders wirksam in der D4 - D6 bei den
nebenstehenden Indikationen. Metaluetische Prozesse erfordern
täglich 3mal 1 Tablette D2 in Kombination mit Kalium jodatum Dil
D1 täglich 3mal 10 Tropfen.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius solubilis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius solubilis Hahnemanni
Hydrargyrum oxydulatum nigrum Hahnemanni
Ein Gemenge, das im wesentlichen Mercuroamidonitrat = NH2Hg2NO3,
metallisches Hg und Quecksilber(I)oxid Hg2O enthält.

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D6, D12, D3
Dil                     : D8
Gebräuchliche Ampullen  : D8, D10, D12, D15 und höher

Schleimhautentzündungen der Mundhöhle und des Magen-Darm-Kanals.
Angina, Stomatitis, Gingivitis, chronische Rhinbitis und
chronische Otitis med. Dysenterie, Colitis simplex et ulcerosa.
Akute und chronische Entzündungen des gesamten lymphatischen
Apparates. Pyodermie, Furunkulose, Skrofulose. Dermatitis und
Dermatosen, chronische Bindegewebsaffektionen. Blepharo-
Konjunktivitis, Opthalmie. Periostitis, Knochenkaries. Sinusitis.
Tendovaginitis, Pulpitis, Periodontitis. Hepatitis. Nephritis.
Lues und deren Folgezustände, besonders Neurolues. Adnexitis,
Metritis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten

ZNS, periphere Nerven, Drüsen, Knochen, Periost, alle
Schleimhäute, Mastdarm, Haut, Bindegewebe, Zähne, Leber, Nieren,
Augen.

Akute Vergiftungssymptome: Metallgeschmack, Brennen, Schwellung
und Geschwulstbildung im Munde, Speichelfluß, Zahnlockerung,
Leberschwellung, ruhrartige Durchfälle mit Blut und Tenesmen.
Albuminurie, Anurie, Kreislaufkollaps.
Chronische Vergiftungssymptome: Psychisch ist die gesamte
Symptomatologie der progr. Paralyse im AMB von Hg zu erkennen,
einschließlich der fortschreitenden Demenz, der Schriftstörung,
des Tremor mercurialis und Erethismus mercurialis. Kachexie,
Kiefernekrose, Nephrocirrhose. Ostitis, Periostitis, hartnäckige,
meist oberflächliche Hautulcerationen. Eitrige Bindehaut- und
Hornhautentzündungen.

Die wichtigsten Charakteristika sind:

1. Foetor ex ore und Speichelfluß.
2. Dick belegte, geschwollene, schrammige Zunge mit sichtbaren
  Zahneindrücken.
3. Übelriechende, klebrige, gelbliche Nachtschweiße.
4. Empfindlichkeit gegen kalte Luft und gegen Bettwärme.
5. Alle entzündlichen Absonderungen sind ätzend, scharf und von
  eitrigem Charakter.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius sublimatus corrosivus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 204)
Mercurius corrosivus
Hydrargyrum bichloratum
Sublimat
Quecksilebrchlorid
HgCl2

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 5a: Lösung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten (Dil): D6, D4

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei Dysenterie, Colitis, Stomatitis apthosa et ulcerosa, Angina,
Sycosis simplex barbae.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Bei Mercurius
sublimatus corrosivus sind nur alle Symptome viel heftiger. In
erster Linie bei den nebenstehend hervorgehobenen Indikationen zu
verwenden. Bei Sycosis simplex äußerliche Betupfung mit Mercurius
sublimatus corrosivus Dil. D4.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius sulfuratus ruber
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
siehe auch Cinnabaris
Hydrargyrum sulfuratum rubrum
Quecksilbersulfid
Zinnober

(wird allgemein als "Cinnabaris" rezeptiert)

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4, D3, D6

Indikationen wie unter Mercurius solubilis mit besonderer Wirkung
bei subakuter und chronischer Sinusitis.

--
Organspezifizität
subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und
Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen ganz denen von Mercurius solubilis. Es besteht jedoch
eine bevorzugte Wirkung auf die subakuten und chronischen Entzü
ndungen der Nasen-Nebenhöhlen und der Nasenschleimhaut. "Druck an
der Nasenwurzel" ist ein typisches Leitsymptom. Häufig ist die
Kombination mit Kalium bichromic. D4 - D6 (siehe dort) angezeigt.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurius vivus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Seite 206)
Hydargyrum
Quecksilber
Hg

Verschreibungspflichtig bis einschließlich D3

Vorschrift 6: Verreibung = D1

Gebräuchliche Tabletten : D4

Entspricht vollkommen den Indikationen von Mercurius solubilis.

--
Organspezifizität subjektive und objektive Symptomatik und Modalitäten :

Die pathologisch-anatomischen Beziehungen und die AM-Symptome
entsprechen völlig denen von Mercurius solubilis.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cinnabaris
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cinnabaris = rotes Quecksilbersulfid,

Daten wie Mercurius sulfuratus ruber
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ich will hier nicht weiter auf die einzelnen Verbindungen eingehen. Wichtig ist
bei ALLEN die angegebene Verdünnung: Beachten Sie, in
welch starker Dosierung es eingesetzt wird. Der Vermerk über die
"Verschreibungspflicht bis einschließlich D3" ist bei einem so starken
Gift wie Quecksilber der blanke Hohn.

In der Tabelle 1 steht nichts über die jeweiligen Verdünnungen. Man darf also
die oben bei den Quecksilberverbindungen aufgeführten
Verdünnungen vermuten. Diese Verdünnungen sind aber in einem Bereich, wo
DEUTLICH meßbare Materialmengen an Gift enthalten
sind!
In diesem Zusammenhang ein Hinweis auf die Arbeit von Fernsehredaktionen.
Die Redaktion des "MDR TV: Hier ab vier -Ratgeber" des MDR hat eine Web-Site. Zu
einer Sendung, die anscheinend am 19.1.1999
ausgestrahlt wurde, heißt es in der auch heute noch (Datum 19.10.2001)
unveränderten Webseite (einschließlich Tippfehler)
http://www.mdr.de/hier-ab-vier/ratgeber/inhalt_990119.html :
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<quote>
Krankheitsursachen in der Mundhöhle

Herde (siehe oben), auch Eiterherde
Energetische Störungen, die sich durch gestörte
Energieflüsse auf bestimmte Körperregionen
auswirken können, z.B. Zahn 7 oben oder unten auf
Lunge und Dickdarm, können aber auch Ausdruck
von übergeordneten Phänomenen sein z.B.
unbewältigte Traurigkeit, nichtgelebte Toleranz [1]
etc.etc. - Zähne als Grenzfläche für die Abweichung
vom richtigen Weg? Zumindest als Zeichen der
Auseinandersetzung zwischen Mensch und Umwelt.
Handfester ist die Belastung durch Quecksilber aus
dem Amalgam, das inzwischen laut
wissenschaftlichen Gutachten (Kieler Gutachten
1997) für medizinisch und rechtlich bedenklich
gehalten wird. Amalgam vergiftet den Speichel, führt
zu einer Mundbatterie mit Stromproduktion und hat
jede Menge Nebenwirkungen. Nur - keiner liest den
Beipackzettel - es gibt ihn (so) nicht. Zitat: "Amalgam
gehört entweder in den Sondermüll oder in den Mund
des Menschen". Kleiner Auszug aus den möglichen
Nebenwirkungen: Zittern, erhöhte Erregbarkeit,
Gingivitis, Schilddrüsen- und Verdauungsstörungen,
Candida-Pilz-Belastungen, Depressionen,
Vergeßlichkeit, massives Schwitzen, Knötchenflechte
der Wangenschleimhaut, das Blutbild kann sich
verschlechtern und die Resistenz von Bakterien
entstehen. Teste: Kaugummi-Test, Urin-Test (Amtest
- Adresse, Tel. siehe unten). Auch andere
Zahn-Werkstoffe können toxische Belastungen
hervorrufen, allen voran das Edelmetall Palladium.
Funktionelle Störungen entstehen durch
Disharmonien zwischen Kopfhaltung
(Halswirbelsäule) und Kiefergelenken, Zahnstellung
und Kaumuskulatur und durch falsches Kauen.
Mundspüllösung: Listerine,
Dentaperfekt+ƒ-Mundwasser (mit CH 7),
Parodontitis-Behandlung mit St. Johanser
Matricell-Ampullen. 1 Ampulle in den Mund entleeren
und 10 Minuten im Mund bewegen, erst süß, dann
wirkt das Propolis antibakteriell und antientzündlich.
Vorbeugung: Reichlich Kalzium aus der Nahrung
durch Wirsing, Broccoli, Mandeln, Grünkohl, nicht
nur durch Milch! Pflanzliches Calcium reicht aus.
Mundgeruch: Entsteht durch Parodontose und
schlechte Darmregulation - Darm und Mund hängen
zusammen.
Herztest: Prüft die Herzaktion und gibt per Computer
Auskunft über die Vitalität des Körpers und den
Schaden von z.B. Amalgam -
Reliability-Heart-Rate-Test, zeigt auch die Wirkung
der Behandlung. Sensationell einfache und sichere
Überprüfung von Gesundheitszustand und
Therapieerfolg. [2]

Wie erkennen Sie einen Herd in den Zähnen?

Körperliche Beschwerden, die nicht zu erklären sind,
können ein Zahnstörfeld zur Ursache haben.
Milchzahn im Erwachsenengebiß = immer ein
Störfeld
Zähne beschliffen mit hochturbinigem Bohrer?
Vielleicht ein Störfeld.
Schwäche oder Kollaps bei (nach) Zahnbehandlung.
Zahn- und Kopfschmerzen zur gleichen Zeit.

Ausleitung von Quecksilber, das zur
Unfruchtbarkeit und mannigfaltigen Krankheiten
(siehe oben) führen kann:
Derivatio Ha - homöopathisches Komplexmittel [3]
Dentaperfektƒ Mundwasser vor und nach
Amalgam-Entfernung
Zinkorotat (20 oder 40) 1x1
Selen - homöopathisch z.B. D4/D6
Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]

Achtung! Dies sind nur Möglichkeiten, alle
Behandlungen nur mit Arzt und Zahnarzt zusammen.
Endgültige Quecksilber-Ausleitungen können über 1
Jahr in Anspruch nehmen.

Weitere Methoden: Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge,
Bioresonanz-Therapie; [5]

Merke: Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet
werden. [6]
</quote>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anmerkungen:
[1]
"Energetische Störungen" ist typisches Vokabular der "alternativen"
"Heiler"-Szene.
[2]
Die Aussagekraft dieses angeblichen Tests wage ich ganz entschieden zu
bezweifeln!
[3]
"Ausleitung" mit homöopathischen Mitteln ist NICHT möglich!
[4]
"Mercusius solubilis hanemannii D6 30,0 + D12 15,0
+ D30 5,0 zusammen 50 ml, 3x10 Tropfen [4]"
50 Kubikzentimer einer Quecksilber-Lösung D6...
[5]
Koriander-Kraut, Chlorella-Alge und "Bioresonanz"-"Therapie" sind
Schwindel-Verfahren.
[6]
"Jede Methode sollte im Einzelfall ausgetestet werden."
Das ist ein Kernsatz fast jeder Argumentation der "alternativen" "Heiler"-Szene.
Er enthält einen besonders hinterhältigen Trick,
angesetzt mit der Standard-Formel des "individuellen Eingehens" auf jeden
einzelnen Patienten: Der Patient denkt, daß man sich
seiner besonders schonend annimmt.
In Wirklichkeit wird ihm durch diesen Trick eine ganze Serie von "Tests"
verkauft, die er natürlich bezahlen muß. Hilft der erste
Test nicht, dann vielleicht der zweite. Hilft der nicht, dann vielleicht der
dritte... Und so weiter... Im Nullkommanichts sind Kosten
von mehreren Hundert Mark, nicht selten sogar mehreren Tausend Mark aufgelaufen.


So ungeniert wird heute Quecksilber als Medikament angepriesen. Und verkauft...
Und angewendet...
Auch bei Ihnen?
Aribert Deckers


PS: Erwähnen möchte ich auch dieses makabre Fundstück aus dem "Repertorium" der
Deutschen Homöopathie-Union, Karlsruhe:
   Poliomyelitis: Aconit., Belladonna, Ferrum phosph., Gelsenium,
                  Phosphor., Plumbum acet.

("Poliomyelitis", abgekürzt "Polio", ist Kinderlähmung...)
hier geht's weiter !
[ Das Amalgam-Zentrum ]
Copyright © 2001
Aribert Deckers
and
Copyright © 2001
Antares Real-Estate
Jegliche Weiterverwendung der Texte der Amalgam-Page ist verboten.
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O.pearl - 09 Oct 2009 23:29 GMT
>>>>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
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> Bullshit.

Idiot.

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Peter Bowditch - 10 Oct 2009 00:08 GMT
>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
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>>
>> Prove that.
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l+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA
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I asked you to prove it, not produce a badly formulated Google search.

Let's ignore the pages from easily-identified idiocy sites and look at
just one of the pages returned by the search, one which could not
possibly be refuted as evidence of your proof. It comes from Sense
About Science itself.

http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/32

Please tell me where ON THAT PAGE there is evidence of "well
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>>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
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> I asked you to prove it, not produce a badly formulated Google search.

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>Another foolish quackpot.

Here we uncovered a homeopath conspiracy:

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Homöopathie
Herausforderung an die Universität Leipzig
Der Fall Nieber et al

28.11.2003

Obgleich Hahnemann die "Homöopathie" schon vor rund 200 Jahren erfand, hat die
erlesenste Elite der Menschheit, die Homöopathen, es bis heute nicht geschafft,
die Wirksamkeit (!) der "Homöopathie" zu beweisen.

Bis heute, denn nun verkündet die folgende Pressemeldung der Universität Leizig:
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:48:59 +0100 (MET)
Sender: idw - Pressemitteilung <service@idw-online.de>
From: Dr. Bärbel Adams <adams@uni-leipzig.de>

Informationsdienst Wissenschaft - idw - - Pressemitteilung
Universität Leipzig, 14.11.2003

Preis für Wirkungsnachweis homöopathischer Mittel

Apothekerin Franziska Schmidt, Prof. Dr. Karen Nieber und Prof. Dr.
Wolfgang Süß vom Institut für Pharmazie der Universität Leipzig
erhielten jetzt den Hans-Heinrich-Reckeweg-Preis 2003 der
Internationalen Gesellschaft für Homotoxikologie e.V. und der
Internationalen Gesellschaft für Biologische Medizin e. V.

Der mit 10 000 Euro dotierte Hauptpreis wurde zum Gemeinschaftskongress
der beiden Gesellschaften Anfang des Monats in Baden-Baden übergeben.
Die ausgezeichnete Arbeit trägt den Titel "Entwicklung eines in-vitro
Testsystems zum Wirkungsnachweis ausgewählter homöopathischer
flüssiger Verdünnungen"

Wirkungen homöopathischer Mittel sind zwar häufig beschrieben, aber
bisher kaum objektiv nachgewiesen. Schmidt, Nieber und Süß haben mit
ihrer Arbeit anhand objektiver Parameter den Nachweis erbracht, dass
homöopathische flüssige Belladonnaverdünnungen, die u.a. für Koliken im
Magen-Darm-Bereich [1] eingesetzt werden, eine Wirkung auslösen.
Sie verwendeten die Methode der isometrischen Kontraktionsmessung. Das ist
ein kompliziertes Mess- und Auswerteverfahren, mit dem man
Bewegungsabläufe an bestimmten Präparaten messen kann.

Für den oben beschriebenen Versuch verwendeten die Wissenschaftler
Präparate aus dem Magen-Darm-Trakt [1] einer Ratte [2], die in
Organbäder mit einer bestimmten Lösung eingespannt wurden. [3]

Durch die Zugabe von Acetylcholin oder Substanz P, die im Körper u.a.
die Bewegungen des Darms steigern können, kam es zu Kontraktionen der
Präparate []4], die  die gemessen werden konnten und am Bildschirm in
deutlichen Kurven abzulesen waren.

Dann wurden in die Organbäder flüssige Belladonnaverdünnungen
eingebracht [5], die streng nach Deutschen Homöopathischen
Arzneibuch hergestellt wurden. Die Konzentration von Belladonna in der
Lösung war so gering, dass die Substanz nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden
konnte. [6]
Die Wirkung kann also nicht auf einer Substanzwirkung beruhen [7], sondern
offensichtlich treten durch den homöopatischen Verdünnungsprozess
Modifikationen des flüssigen Arzneiträgers auf, die zu einer
physiko-chemischen Beeinflussung von Übertragungsmechanismen führen -
denn ohne Schütteln keine Wirkung! [8]

Mit der homöopathischen Belladonnaverdünnung wurden die Kontraktionen
der Präparate deutlich verringert, ablesbar an den auf dem Bildschirm
erscheinenden Kurven. Damit war der Wirkungsnachweis des
Homöopathikums erbracht. Auch nach mehrmaliger Wiederholung der
Versuche ergab sich immer das gleiche Resultat. [9]

Dieses Resultat war für die Internationale Gesellschaft für
Homotoxikologie e.V. und die Internationale Gesellschaft für
Biologische Medizin e.V. so wichtig, dass den Wissenschaftlern der
Hauptpreis auf ihrem Gemeinschaftskongress zugesprochen wurde. Den
Leipziger Pharmakologen ist das sicher ein guter Anlass, auf diesem
Wege weiter zu forschen.

weitere Informationen:    Prof. Dr. Karen Nieber
Telefon: 0341 - 97 36 812
E-Mail: nieber@uni-leipzig.de

Weitere Informationen finden Sie unter:
http://www.uni-leipzig.de/~pharm/phfn/pharmako.htm

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Heel-BHI: The World's Most Outrageous Homeopathic Marketer
==========================================================

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

In 1982, physicians throughout the United States began receiving
multiple mailings of a large softcover booklet called Biological
Therapy with Homeopathic Remedies [1]. The booklet described what it
called the practice of "homotoxicology" and offered 53 products
intended for treating cancer, gallstones, glaucoma, kidney failure,
multiple sclerosis, smallpox, syphilis, tuberculosis, and more than a
hundred other diseases and conditions. The mailings came from
Biological Homeopathic Industries (BHI), of Albuquerque, New Mexico,
whose president, Dr. Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg, was said to have done
"extensive research" since the late 1920s [1]. In 1985, the
Albuquerque Tribune reported that BHI had distributed nearly 200,000
of its booklets [2].

In response to this promotion, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
concluded that BHI was one of the most flagrant law violators among
homeopathic marketers [3]. Acting on this belief, the agency issued a
regulatory letter [4] and banned the importation of BHI products that
it considered unapproved new drugs. Despite these actions, however,
BHI (now called Heel, Inc.) has continued to violate the law and now
offers more than a thousand products. This article traces the
company's history and states what I believe should be done to protect
consumers.

Background History

Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg, MD (1905-1985), was a German physician who
practiced homeopathy. The Heel Web site states that he founded
Biologische Heilmittel Heel GmbH in Berlin 1936 and moved the company
to its present location in Baden-Baden in 1953. Between 1936 and 1979,
he developed 1,000 combination homeopathic remedies in Germany. In
1979, Reckeweg relocated to Abuquerque and created Biological
Homeopathic Industries (BHI) and began manufacturing combination
remedies in tablet form. In 1981 he founded Menaco Publishing Company,
which published books and "journal" called "Biological Therapy" (now
called the Journal of Biomedical Therapy). In 1997, the Arizona
company was renamed Heel Inc, which now manufactures and distributes
both BHI products and Heel products [5,6]. Heel products are primarily
marketed to practitioners, whereas BHI products are primarily marketed
to consumers,

  According to Reckeweg:

  Illness is the expression of self-healing. The afflicted organism
  attempts to regulate its functions through the body's greater
  defense system by activating detoxification and excretion.

  Inflammation and fever are not necessarily "bad" signs but rather
  serve to detoxify and eliminate toxins. This occurs according to
  the chemical processes as defined and demonstrated in
  homotoxicology.

  Through this, the physician is provided a different perspective of
  illnesses as many puzzles are clarified and methods of treatment
  are re-established.

  Inflammation need not be suppressed by antibiotics and/or
  chemotherapy as this often provokes retoxification and
  therapeutical damage that should be avoided.

  By suppression the illness is propelled towards dangerous retoxic
  cellular phases that manifest themselves as chronic and/or
  lingering diseases. BHI homeopathic remedies stimulate the five
  systems that comprise the great corporal defense system as defined
  in homotoxicology [6].

Reckeweg further claimed that his methods worked by converting
homotoxins into nontoxic substances that he called "homotoxons" [7].

The principles of "homotoxicology" do not conform to what is
scientifically known about the body in health and disease. I have
found nothing about Reckeweg or homotoxicology by searching MEDLINE
and very few mentions of him or his work from sources not commercially
affiliated with Heel-BHI. Although Reckeweg is said to have conducted
extensive research, I can find no evidence that he published anything
significant about this. BHI's magazine has described a few recent
studies of Heel products, but these involved no control groups and
mean absolutely nothing. Reckeweg's methods are also promoted by the
British Society for Homotoxicology & Anti-Homotoxic Therapy

The claims made for Heel-BHI products are available on several Web
sites. Heel-BHI has a copy of its 108-page Routine Therapy guide for
Heel products [8] and its 132-page Homeopathic Therapy guide for BHI
products [9]. Homotoxicology.net has posted Heel's 669-page
Biotherapeutic Index, which describes how to use products to treat
more than 400 conditions [10]. A 1993 edition of the book, which was
distributed at an osteopathic convention in 1998, was smaller but
contained 12 pages on "neoplasia and neoplastic phases of disease."
(Neoplasm is a medical term for tumor.) These volumes contain most
brazen set of bogus therapeutic claims I have ever seen.

To illustrate the extent of the claims, I have posted the entry for
Lyphomyosot® in the Biotherapeutic Index, which states that the
product is useful for asthma, "blood purifying," bronchitis, chronic
gastritis, cystitis, dermatoses, diarrhea, eczema, flatulence,
gallbladder disease, heel pain, herpes, kidney stones, liver disease,
nasal polyps, rickets, swollen glands, tuberculosis, and several other
problems.

FDA Enforcement Actions

In 1984, FDA officials concluded that BHI was one of the three most
flagrant violators because they marketed products for very serious
disease conditions [11]. Soon afterward the agency warned Reckeweg
that it was "unaware of any substantial scientific evidence which
demonstrates that any of your marketed homeopathic drugs are generally
recognized as safe and effective for their intended use" and that
"continued marketing of these drugs is a serious violation of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act." [4] A few months later, the
Albuquerque Tribune stated that the company had stopped selling
"anticancer, antivirus, artery, regeneration, and stroke pills" and
would modify how it marketed the rest [2].

An FDA Enforcement Report indicates that in 1991 BHI recalled 1,055
bottles and 33,333 finished bulk tablets of BHI Infection Homeopathic
Remedy Tablets because they were "subpotent." [12]

Between October 1993 and September 1994, the FDA warned BHI to stop
making claims that BHI Cold, which contained sulfur and pulsatilla,
was effective against mumps, whooping cough, chronic respiratory
diseases, herpes zoster, all viral infections, and measles. In
addition, when combined with other BHI remedies, it had been illegally
claimed to be effective against otitis, pleurisy, bronchitis or
pneumonia, conjunctivitis, and tracheitis [13].

In addition to warning letters, the FDA has issued import alerts to
try to prevent most BHI products from being imported. Between October
1983 and April 1985, the agency made 10 detentions on grounds that the
products were unapproved new drugs [14]. Since 1995, additional Heel
products have been blocked because of illegal therapeutic claims and
failure to abide by good manufacturing practices [15]. There may have
been other detentions, but I do not have access to such information.

[...]

The Bottom Line

Heel-BHI has been marketing products with outrageous and illegal
claims for more than 20 years. The vast majority are irrationally
formulated and have not been scientifically tested. Using them instead
of proven therapy is a waste of money and could lead to delay in
getting appropriate treatment. The FDA should take forceful action to
rid the marketplace of these products. Since there is no logical
reason to use the products, consumers should avoid practitioners who
prescribe them.

References
{1}
Biological Therapy with Homeopathic Remedies. Albuquerque, NM: Menaco
Publishing Company, 1981, 1983.

{2}
Uhlman M. FDA cracks down in city 'homeopathic' drug factory.
Albuquerque Tribune March 14, 1985.

{3}
Rados B. Riding the coattails of homeopathy's revival. FDA Consumer
19(2):30-34, 1985.

{4}
Michels D. Regulatory letter to Dr. Hans Heinrich Reckeweg, Dec 11, 1984.

{5}
The story of Heel Inc. Heel-BHI Web site, accessed May 3, 2003.

{6}
Reckeweg HH. Foreword to Homeopathic Therapy: Physicians Reference.
Albuquerque, NM: Heel, Inc., 1998.

{7}
Reckeweg HH. Scientific basis of biological and homeopathic therapy.
(Booklet) Baden-Baden: Aurelia Verlag, 1979.

{8}
Routine Therapy. Albuquerque, NM: Heel, Inc., 1998.

{9}
Homeopathic Therapy: Physicians Reference. Albuquerque, NM: Heel,
Inc., 1998.

{10}
Biotherapeutic Index, 5th revised English edition. Baden-Baden,
Germany: Biologische Heilmittel GmbH, 2000, p 4.

{11}
Chastonay RJ. Request for limited inspection Re: Homeopathic Products.
Memo, Oct 26, 1984

{12}
FDA Enforcement Report, March 25, 1992, p 6.

{13}
Health Fraud Actions, October 1993 - September 1994. Rockville, MD:
FDA, 1994, p 3.

{14}
Drugs detention for FY 84 to date. FDA computer printout. Oct 10,
1985.

{15}
Details can be located by searching the FDA Web site for "Heel,"
"BHI," "Biologische Heilmittel" and "Heel GmbH."

{16}
Sanchez JW. Duke city company to get IRB. Albuquerque Tribune, Oct 14,
2003.

HomeoWatch Home Page
This article was revised on October 21, 2003.
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http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/bhiwarning.html
http://www.heel.ca/ajournal/journal.html
http://www.biopathica.co.uk/Society.htm
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/Routine_Therapy.pdf
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/BHI_Homeopathic_Therapy.pdf
http://www.homotoxicology.net/Documents/biotherapy.pdf
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/lymphomyosot.html
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/history/fdac1.html
http://www.homeowatch.org/reg/BHI/BHI/bhiwarning.html
http://www.heelbhi.com/about.html
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/Routine_Therapy.pdf
http://www.heelbhi.com/pdfs/BHI_Homeopathic_Therapy.pdf
http://www.homotoxicology.net/Documents/biotherapy.pdf
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/101403_news_county.shtml

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Mitarbeiter

Leiterin des Lehrstuhls:

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Sekretariat:
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Publikationen 1995 - 2003

[...]

Schmidt, F., W. Süß, K. Nieber:
Entwicklung eines in-vitro Testsystems zum Wirkungsnacweis
ausgewählter homöopathischer flüssiger Verdünnungen.
Biol. Med. 2003
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Schon jetzt unterstützen viele hundert Ärzte und Ärztinnen aber auch
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Anmerkungen
[1]
Gemäß den fundamentalen Regeln der Homöopathie hätte erst einmal anhand eines
Repertoriums das zur Erkrankung der Ratte passende Arzneimittel bestimmt werden
müssen. Damit stellen sich die Fragen:
1. An welcher Krankheit litt die Ratte?
2. Wie waren ihre Symptome?
3. Wieso wurde Belladonna verwendet?
4. War an der noch lebenden Ratte überhaupt getestet worden, daß Belladonna das
richtige Arzneimittel ist!?
Schließlich ist die Homöopathie INDIVIDUELL (!), so daß das passende
Arzneimittel für jedes Tier EINZELN ermittelt werden muß!

[2]
Homöopathie wirkt laut Hahnemann am Menschen. Wer aber hat behauptet, daß die
für Menschen durchgeführten Arzneimittelprüfungen 1:1 für Tiere übernommen
werden dürfen!?

[3]
Wer hat bei Ratten Arzneimittelproben durchgeführt, anhand derer erwiesen ist,
für welche Symptome welche Arzneimittel zu geben sind?

[4]
Homöopathie soll eine "ganzheitliche" Heilmethode sein. Das heißt : an einem
GANZEN, lebenden Körper. Was aber ist mit einzelnen, losgelösten Zellverbänden
in einem PRÄPARAT?

Welche Verstimmung der Lebenskraft soll denn diesen Zellverbänden innewohnen!?

[5]
Wenn die Messungen wirklich OBJEKTIV sein sollen, dann müßte man doch jedes Mal
völlig gleichartiges Probenmaterial der Ratte verwenden. Tatsache ist, daß nach
dem Beaufschlagen mit Belladonna bereits eine homöopathische Behandlung
stattgefunden hat. Eine weitere Behandlung ist somit unmöglich, denn das
Material ist bereits vorbehandelt und damit verändert.

Was, wenn man das Material nicht von nur einer einzigen, sondern von mehreren
Ratten verwendet hat ? Wurde für jede Ratte einzeln vorher an der lebenden Ratte
Belladonna als wirksames Arzneimittel herausgefunden ...?

[6]
Wenn Belladonna nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden konnte, ergibt sich zwangsläufig
die Frage, wie gut überhaupt dieses Nachweisverfahren ist.

[7]
Dies ist ein Trugschluß. Wenn der Stoff X nicht mehr nachgewiesen werden kann,
sagt das nur etwas über das Nachweisverfahren aus, nicht jedoch über seine
Wirksamkeit !

[8]
Ohne Schütteln keine Wirkung. Das schreibt die Universität Leipzig
tatsächlich...

Dann ergibt sich zwangsläufig die Frage, wie das Schütteln das Ausmaß der
Wirkung beeinflußt. Hier hat man zum ersten Mal in der Geschichte der
Homöopathie die Gelegenheit, diese brennende Frage, die Hahnemann nicht lösen
konnte, zu beantworten , und dies auch noch objektiv, das heißt: OHNE subjektive
Wahrnehmung und Ergebnisverfälschung des Patienten.

[9]
Ein reproduzierter Fehler ist und bleibt ein Fehler. Er beweist gar nichts -
außer, daß diejenigen, die den Versuch durchführen, in der Versuchsanordnung und
-durchführung grundlegende Fehler haben, und daß sie diese nicht finden, ja,
noch nicht einmal erkennen, daß sie diese Fehler gemacht haben...

Fazit:

Das Mindeste, was man von Homöopathen verlangen kann und darf und muß, ist, daß
sie sich an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie halten.

Ich bitte zu beachten, daß die von mir aufgeführten Kritikpunkte elementare
Grundpfeiler der Homöopathie sind.

Wie man unschwer erkennen kann, sind bei den Versuchen an der Universität Leizig
diese Grundregeln nicht eingehalten worden.

Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß sie sich
EINWANDFREI an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie gehalten hat.

Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß das Schütteln eine
einwandfrei reproduzierbare, meßbare Größe für den Nachweis der Wirksamkeit
liefert.

Ich behaupte, daß die Versuche an der Universität Leipzig elementarste
Grundregeln der Homöopathie mißachten und daher keine Homöopathie sind.
Wissenschaftlich sind sie erst recht nicht.

Aribert Deckers

Über den Wahnsinn Homöopathie
* [ Homöopathie : Die Königin der Heilerkunst ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie: Bißwunden ]
* [ Danke, Herr Homöopath! ]
* [ Homöopathische Kindesmißhandlung ]
* [ Hundescheiße als Arzneimittel ]
* [ Homöopathie : Halstuch und Lachesis ]
* [ Repertorium hydrargyrum: Wie man Kranken Quecksilber verkauft ]
* [ Maliciosa der Homöopathie ]
* [ Homöopathie - Die No-Medicine Medicine ]
* [ Mein Schwur ]
* [ Arzneimittelrätsel ]
* [ "Petze!" ]
* [ Neuordnung der Mikrobiologie ]
* [ Der Fall Christian Grießhammer ]
* [ Der Fall Bea Soldat-Braun ]

externe Links zu Dokumentationen anderer Autoren:
Martin Lambeck:
* [ Eine Revolution der Physik? Die Unterstützung der Homöopathie ]
* [ und ähnlicher Therapierichtungen durch die Krankenkassen      ]
* [ http://www.gwup.org/skeptiker/archiv/2001/3/homoeopathie.html ]

Dr. William.E.Thomas MD:
"Homeopathy - Historical Origins and the Present"
(Melbourne, 1995)
* [ Hahnemann's Allergy to Quinine                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/allergy.html ]
* [ The Vis Vitalis Triumphant                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/vis.html ]
* [ Homeopathy Dissected                             ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/dissect.html ]
* [ Is Homeopathy A Cult?                         ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/cult.html ]
* [ Toxicity, Efficacy & Mode of Action in Homeopathy ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/toxicity.html ]

Treffliche Artikel der TAZ
* [ Colin Goldner: Autodidakten und Beutelschneider ]
* [ Colin Goldner: Heilpraktiker - Die Qualifikation ]

 

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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 13:25 GMT
>>Another foolish quackpot.

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> Here we uncovered a homeopath conspiracy:

You couldn't discover a clue in a field full of clues.

'California Superior Court Judge Rules on Quackbuster "Credibility"
..
'B. Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Dr. Barrett was offered on several issues by the Plaintiff, but the Court found
that there was substantial overlap on the issues that he and Dr. Sampson were
asked to address. Thus, in order to avoid duplicative or cumulative evidence
(see Cal. Evidence Code §§ 352, 411, 723), Dr. Barrett's testimony was
limited by the Court to the sole issue of FDA treatment of homeopathic drugs.
The relevancy of this issue was questionable at best, since the Plaintiff had
previously asserted that its case did not depend on or seek to establish any
violation of federal food and drug laws or regulations. Nevertheless, Plaintiff
elicited testimony from Dr. Barrett on his experience with the FDA as it relates
to regulation of homeopathic drugs.

Dr. Barrett was a psychiatrist who retired in or about 1993, at which point he
contends he allowed his medical license to lapse. Like Dr. Sampson, he has
no formal training in homeopathic medicine or drugs, although he claims to
have read and written extensively on homeopathy and other forms of
alternative medicine. Dr. Barrett's claim to expertise on FDA issues arises
from his conversations with FDA agents, his review of professional literature
on the subject and certain continuing education activities.

As for his credential as an expert on FDA regulation of homeopathic drugs,
the Court finds that Dr. Barrett lacks sufficient qualifications in this area.
Expertise in FDA regulation suggests a knowledge of how the agency
enforces federal statutes and the agency's own regulations. Dr. Barrett's
purported legal and regulatory knowledge is not apparent. He is not a lawyer,
although he claims he attended several semesters of correspondence law
school. While Dr. Barrett appears to have had several past conversations
with FDA representatives, these appear to have been sporadic, mainly at his
own instigation, and principally for the purpose of gathering information for
his various articles and Internet web-sites. He has never testified before any
governmental panel or agency on issues relating to FDA regulation of drugs.
Presumably his professional continuing education experiences are outdated
given that he has not had a current medical licence in over seven years. For
these reasons, there is no sound basis on which to consider Dr. Barrett
qualified as an expert on the issues he was offered to address. Moreover,
there was no real focus to his testimony with respect to any of the issues in
this case associated with Defendants' products.

C. Credibility of Plaintiff's experts
Furthermore, the Court finds that both Dr. Sampson and Dr. Barrett are
biased heavily in favor of the Plaintiff and thus the weight to be accorded
their testimony is slight in any event. Both are long-time board members of
the Plaintiff; Dr. Barrett has served as its Chairman. Both participated in an
application to the U.S. FDA during the early 1990s designed to restrict the
sale of most homeopathic drugs. Dr. Sampson's university course presents
what is effectively a one-sided, critical view of alternative medicine.
Dr. Barrett's heavy activities in lecturing and writing about alternative
medicine similarly are focused on the eradication of the practices about which
he opines. Both witnesses' fees, as Dr. Barrett testified, are paid from a fund
established by Plaintiff NCAHF from the proceeds of suits such as the case
at bar. Based on this fact alone, the Court may infer that Dr. Barrett and
Sampson are more likely to receive fees for testifying on behalf of NCAHF
in future cases if the Plaintiff prevails in the instant action and thereby wins
funds to enrich the litigation fund described by Dr. Barrett. It is apparent,
therefore, that both men have a direct, personal financial interest in the
outcome of this litigation. Based on all of these factors, Dr. Sampson and
Dr. Barrett can be described as zealous advocates of the Plaintiff's position,
and therefore not neutral or dispassionate witnesses or experts. In light of
these affiliations and their orientation, it can fairly be said that Drs. Barrett
and Sampson are themselves the client, and therefore their testimony should
be accorded little, if any, credibility on that basis as well.
.....'
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/california_superior_court_judge_.htm
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 13:34 GMT
>You couldn't discover a clue in a field full of clues.

That is a very stupid claim.

This is an open letter to the University of Leipzig because of the "scientists"
there messing up a study:

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho16.htm

<quote>
Homöopathie
Der Fall Nieber: Pfusch im Labor
Offener Brief an die Universität Leipzig

13.3.2005

An: Dekan Eger at Uni Leipzig <dekanat.bio@rz.uni-leipzig.de>

cc: Prof. Dr. Karen Nieber <nieber@uni-leipzig.de>

Beschwerde wegen massivem Verstoß gegen elementarste Grundregeln der Homöopathie
und gegen die Wissenschaftlichkeit

Dekan  Prof. Dr. Kurt Eger

Universität Leipzig,
Fakultät für Biowissenschaften, Pharmazie und Psychologie
Brüderstraße 32
04103  Leipzig
Telefon +49 (0) 341 97 36 700
Fax     +49 (0) 341 97 36 749
E-Mail  dekanat.bio@uni-leipzig.de

Bremerhaven, 13.3.2005

Sehr geehrter Herr Professor Eger,

Sie sind über den Fall Nieber et al informiert :

http://wwwvm.rz.uni-leipzig.de/~ifabdez5/presse/index.php?modus=pmanzeige&pm_id=1404

Seit Ende 2003 hat es die Universität Leipzig nicht geschafft, ihren
groben Pfusch aufzuräumen.

1. Das Mindeste, was man von Homöopathen verlangen kann und darf und muß,
  ist, daß sie sich an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie halten.

  Wie man unschwer erkennen kann, sind bei den Versuchen an der Universität
  Leizig diese Grundregeln nicht eingehalten worden.

2. Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß sie sich
  EINWANDFREI an die Grundregeln der Homöopathie gehalten hat.

3. Ich fordere die Universität Leipzig heraus, zu beweisen, daß das Schütteln
  eine einwandfrei reproduzierbare, meßbare Größe für den Nachweis der
  Wirksamkeit liefert.

4. Ich behaupte, daß die Versuche an der Universität Leipzig elementarste
  Grundregeln der Homöopathie mißachten und daher keine Homöopathie sind.
  Wissenschaftlich sind sie erst recht nicht.

Bevor Sie mir mit einer der typischen Standardfloskeln der Esoteriker
antworten, rate ich Ihnen, erst einmal diese Web-Seiten

  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho12.htm
  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho13.htm

zu lesen, sowie das Organon von Hahnemann. Und zwar gründlich !

Im Gegensatz zu Ihren Professoren sitzt hier kein blutiger Anfänger.

Mit freundlichem Gruß

Aribert Deckers

(Anschrift)

Über den Wahnsinn Homöopathie
* [ Homöopathie : Die Königin der Heilerkunst ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie: Bißwunden ]
* [ Danke, Herr Homöopath! ]
* [ Homöopathische Kindesmißhandlung ]
* [ Hundescheiße als Arzneimittel ]
* [ Homöopathie : Halstuch und Lachesis ]
* [ Repertorium hydrargyrum: Wie man Kranken Quecksilber verkauft ]
* [ Maliciosa der Homöopathie ]
* [ Homöopathie - Die No-Medicine Medicine ]
* [ Mein Schwur ]
* [ Arzneimittelrätsel ]
* [ "Petze!" ]
* [ Neuordnung der Mikrobiologie ]
* [ Der Fall Christian Grießhammer ]
* [ Der Fall Bea Soldat-Braun ]
* [ Tödliche Gefahr Homöopathie: Falschbehandlung bei Asthma ]
* [ Der Fall Christian Peter Dogs ]
* [ Der Fall Klaus Roman Hör ]
* [ "Wasser fließt bergauf" ]
* [ Herausforderung an die Universität Leipzig ]
* [ Der Fall Nieber : Pfusch im Labor ]
* [ Pseudowissenschaften an der Universität Leipzig                 ]
 [ Der Preis für den Wirkungsnachweis homöopathischer Mittel,      ]
 [ den die Leipziger Pharmazeuten Apothekerin Franziska Schmidt,   ]
 [ Prof. Karen Nieber und Prof. Wolfgang Süß 2003 erhalten haben,  ]
 [ beruht auf einer Falschmitteilung                               ]
 [ Kommentar von Prof. Dr. rer.nat. Gerhard Bruhn, Darmstadt       ]
 [ Prof. Dr. rer.nat. Erhard Wielandt, Stuttgart                   ]
 [ PD Dr. rer.nat. Klaus Keck, Konstanz                            ]
 [ http://www.xy44.de/belladonna                                   ]
* [ Homöopathie, Pfuscher im Labor: ]
 [ Der Fall Universität Heidelberg ]

externe Links zu Dokumentationen anderer Autoren:
* [ Pseudowissenschaften an der Universität Leipzig                 ]
 [ Der Preis für den Wirkungsnachweis homöopathischer Mittel,      ]
 [ den die Leipziger Pharmazeuten Apothekerin Franziska Schmidt,   ]
 [ Prof. Karen Nieber und Prof. Wolfgang Süß 2003 erhalten haben,  ]
 [ beruht auf einer Falschmitteilung                               ]
 [ Kommentar von Prof. Dr. rer.nat. Gerhard Bruhn, Darmstadt       ]
 [ Prof. Dr. rer.nat. Erhard Wielandt, Stuttgart                   ]
 [ PD Dr. rer.nat. Klaus Keck, Konstanz                            ]
 [ http://www.xy44.de/belladonna                                   ]

Martin Lambeck:
* [ Eine Revolution der Physik? Die Unterstützung der Homöopathie ]
* [ und ähnlicher Therapierichtungen durch die Krankenkassen      ]
* [ http://www.gwup.org/skeptiker/archiv/2001/3/homoeopathie.html ]

Dr. William.E.Thomas MD:
"Homeopathy - Historical Origins and the Present"
(Melbourne, 1995)
* [ Hahnemann's Allergy to Quinine                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/allergy.html ]
* [ The Vis Vitalis Triumphant                   ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/vis.html ]
* [ Homeopathy Dissected                             ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/dissect.html ]
* [ Is Homeopathy A Cult?                         ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/cult.html ]
* [ Toxicity, Efficacy & Mode of Action in Homeopathy ]
 [ http://www.angelfire.com/va/quinine/toxicity.html ]

Treffliche Artikel der TAZ
* [ Colin Goldner: Autodidakten und Beutelschneider ]
* [ Colin Goldner: Heilpraktiker - Die Qualifikation ]

 

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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 13:46 GMT
>>You couldn't discover a clue in a field full of clues.
>
> That is a very stupid claim.

It's a fact.

> This is an open letter to the University of Leipzig because of the "scientists"
> there messing up a study:

You didn't like the results.  Tough.  Now let's watch you snip this too.

'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist who co-discovered HIV
and who won the Nobel Prize in 2008.  Dr. Montagnier has received many
other significant awards, though his newest research, which may explain how
and why homeopathic medicines maintain their biological activity in extreme
dilution, may be his most significant to date.
..
Although homeopathy is not mentioned anywhere in the article, the
researchers used aqueous solutions that were agitated and serially diluted
(the researchers note that the solutions were "strongly agitated" and that
this step was "critical for the generation of signals").  
..
The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects
from dilutions as high as 10(-18) (equivalent to 18X).  The EM signature
changed with dilution levels but was unaffected by the initial concentration
and remained even after the remaining DNA fragments were destroyed
by chemical agents.  Of additional interest was the researchers'
observation that they observed the SAME results whether their initial
concentration of cells were just 10 or 10(9)(this is 10 to the 9th power =
10,000,000,000 cells).
..'
http://www.homeopathic.com/articles/view,134
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 14:02 GMT
>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist

...and, still, he messed up terribly.
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O.pearl - 11 Oct 2009 14:21 GMT
>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>
> ...and, still, he messed up terribly.

Projection.
Happy Oyster - 11 Oct 2009 19:12 GMT
>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>
>> ...and, still, he messed up terribly.
>
>Projection.

You are too stupid to understand the basics of physics.
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O.pearl - 12 Oct 2009 14:36 GMT
>>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You are too stupid to understand the basics of physics.

Projection.
Happy Oyster - 12 Oct 2009 21:06 GMT
>>>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Projection.

You are too stupid to understand the basics of physics.
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O.pearl - 13 Oct 2009 14:42 GMT
>>>>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> You are too stupid to understand the basics of physics.

"Only a fool fights in a burning house." - Klingon proverb
Happy Oyster - 13 Oct 2009 20:48 GMT
>>>>>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>"Only a fool fights in a burning house." - Klingon proverb

Oh, your whig is burning?
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O.pearl - 15 Oct 2009 13:29 GMT
>>>>>>>>'Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Oh, your whig is burning?

Whig?  Your house is burning, quackpot.

'Flu vaccines revealed as the greatest quackery ever pushed in the history of medicine
Wednesday, October 14, 2009

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If the whole world knew what you're about to read here, the vaccine industry would collapse
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This information comes to you courtesy of a brilliant article published in The Atlantic (November
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Perhaps its impressive narrative shouldn't be too surprising, though, since writer Shannon
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Does the vaccine matter?

What follows is my point-by-point summary of this groundbreaking article by Shannon Brownlee,
originally published in The Atlantic. My opinion statements are shown in brackets and italics.

. Vaccination is the core strategy of the U.S. government's plan to combat the swine flu.

. The U.S. government has spent roughly $3 billion stockpiling vaccines and anti-viral drugs.

. The CDC is recommending that 159 million Americans receive a swine flu vaccine injection
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. What if vaccines don't work? More and more researchers are skeptical about whether they do.

. Seasonal flu (that's the regular flu) currently kills an estimated 36,000 people each year in the
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50 percent) of colds have an influenzaorigin. There are more than 200 viruses and pathogens
that can cause "influenza-like" illnesses (and therefore be easily mistaken for the flu).

. Viruses mutate with amazing speed, meaning that each year's circulating influenza is genetically
different from the previous year.

. The vaccine for each upcoming flu season is formulated by health experts taking a guess [a
wild guess, at times] about what strain of influenza might be most likely to circulate in the future.

. The 1918 Spanish Flu infected roughly one-third of the world population and killed at least
40 million.

. In the U.S., the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology predicted that
H1N1 influenza could infect up to one-half of the U.S. population and kill 90,000 Americans.

[Keep reading, the good part is coming...]

. Of those who have died from the Swine Flu in the U.S., roughly 70 percent were already
diseased with some serious underlying condition such as asthma or AIDS.

. Public health officials consider vaccines to be their first and best weapon against influenza.
Vaccines helped eradicate smallpox and polio. [I don't agree with that assessment. Vaccines
did relatively little compared to improvements in public sanitation.]

. Each year, 100 million Americans get vaccinated, and vaccines remain "a staple" of public
health policy in the United States.

Why the research is bogus

. Because researchers can't exactly pin down who has influenza and who doesn't, the research
conducted on the effectiveness of vaccines simply calculates the death rate from all causes
among those who take the vaccine vs. those who don't. [This includes deaths from accidents,
heart attacks, medications, car wrecks and everything.]

. These studies show a "dramatic difference" between the death rates of those who get the
vaccines vs. those who don't. People who get vaccinated have significantly lower death rates
[from ALL causes, and herein lies the problem...].

. Flu shot propaganda cites these studies, telling people that if they get their flu shots every
year, they will have a significantly reduced chance of dying. But this is extremely misleading...

. Critics question the logic of these studies: As it turns out, compared to the number of deaths
from all causes, the number of people killed by influenza is quite small. According to the
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, deaths from influenza account for --
at most -- 10 percent of the total deaths during the flu season (and this includes all indirect
deaths aggravated by the flu).

. This brings up a hugely important dilemma: If influenza only accounts for roughly 10 percent
of all deaths during the flu season,how could an influenza vaccine reduce total deaths by 50
percent? (As is claimed by the vaccine manufacturers.) [It doesn't add up. Even if the vaccines
were 100% effective, they should only reduce the total death rates by 10%, given that only
10% of the total deaths are caused by influenza.]

. Here's a direct quote from the story: Tom Jefferson, a physician based in Rome and the head
of the Vaccines Field at the Cochrane Collaboration, a highly respected international network
of researchers who appraise medical evidence, says: "For a vaccine to reduce mortality by 50
percent and up to 90 percent in some studies means it has to prevent deaths not just from
influenza, but also from falls, fires, heart disease, strokes, and car accidents. That's not a vaccine,
that's a miracle." [Emphasis added.]

The failure of cohort studies

. So how do the vaccine companies come up with this "50% reduction in death rate" statistic?
Through cohort studies.

. Cohort studies compare the death rates of large groups of people who received the vaccine
to large groups of people who did NOT receive the vaccine. But there's a fatal flaw in this
approach: People self-select for vaccinations. And what kind of people? As it turns out:
People who take more precautions with their health!

. [Thus, you automatically have a situation where the more health-cautious people are getting
the vaccines because they THINK it's good for them. Meanwhile all the masses of people
who don't give a darn about their health tend to skip the seasonal flu vaccines. And these
people tend to not take very good of their health in lots of other ways. In other words, in
terms of the masses, people who get vaccines are more likely to avoid junk food and live a
more health-cautious lifestyle.This explains the differences in the death rates between the
two groups! It has nothing to do with the vaccine...]

. There is extreme "cult-like" peer pressure put on doctors and researchers to swallow the
vaccine mythology without question. Quoted from the story: Lisa Jackson, a physician and
senior investigator with the Group Health Research Center, in Seattle, began wondering aloud
to colleagues if maybe something was amiss with the estimate of 50 percent mortality reduction
for people who get flu vaccine, the response she got sounded more like doctrine than science.
"People told me, 'No good can come of [asking] this,'" she says. "'Potentially a lot of bad
could happen' for me professionally by raising any criticism that might dissuade people from
getting vaccinated, because of course, 'We know that vaccine works.' This was the prevailing
wisdom." [In other words, don't dare question the vaccine, and don't ask tough scientific
questions because the vaccine industry runs on dogma, not science... and if you ask any
questions, you might find yourself out of a job...].

[Here's where the really good part begins...]

. Lisa Jackson was not deterred. She and three other researchers began to study the widely-
quoted vaccine statistics in an attempt to identify this "healthy user effect," if any. They looked
through eight years of medical data covering 72,000 people aged 65 or older and recorded
who received flu shots and who didn't. Then they compared the death rates for all causes
outside the flu season.

The vaccine made no difference in mortality

. What she found blows a hole right through the vaccination industry: She found that even
outside the flu season, the death rate was 60 percent higher among those who did not get
vaccines than among those who do. [In other words, even when you take the flu season
completely out of the equation, elderly people who don't get vaccines have other lifestyle
factors that makes them far more likely to die from lots of other causes.]

. She also found that this so-called "healthy user effect" explains the entire apparent benefit
that continues to be attributed to vaccines. This finding demonstrates that the flu vaccine may
not have any beneficial effect whatsoever in reducing mortality.

. How well done were these particular studies? Quoted from the story: Jackson's papers "are
beautiful," says Lone Simonsen, who is a professor of global health at George Washington
University, in Washington, D.C., and an internationally recognized expert in influenza and
vaccine epidemiology. "They are classic studies in epidemiology, they are so carefully done."

. Many pro-vaccine experts simply refused to believe the results of this study [because it
conflicts with their existing belief in vaccine mythology]. The Journal of the American Medical
Association refused to publish her research, even stating, "To accept these results would be to
say that the earth is flat!" [Which just goes to show you how deeply ingrained the current
vaccine mythology is in the minds of conventional medical practitioners. They simply cannot
imagine that vaccines don't work, so they dismiss any evidence -- even GOOD evidence --
demonstrating that fact. This is what makes the vaccine industry a CULT rather than a science.]

. Jackson's papers were finally published in 2006, in the International Journal of Epidemiology.

[And here's the really, really juicy part you can't miss...]

Vaccine shortage proves it never worked in the first place

. The history of the flu vaccine reveals some huge gaps in current vaccination mythology,
essentially proving they don't work:

. For example: In 2004, vaccine production was low and there was a shortage in vaccines
(a 40 percent reduction in vaccinations). And yet mortality rates did not rise during the flu
season. [Clearly, if vaccines actually worked, then a year when the vaccine wasn't even
administered to 40% of the people who normally get it should have resulted in a huge and
statistically significant increase in mortality. It should have spiked the death rates and filled the
morgues... but it didn't. You know why? Because flu vaccines don't work in the first place.]

. In the history of flu vaccines, there were two years in which the formulated flu vaccine was
a total mismatch to the widely-circulating influenza that made people sick. These years were
1968 and 1997. In both of these years, the vaccine was a completely mismatch for the
circulating virus. In effect, nobody was vaccinated! [Knowing this, if the vaccine itself was
effective at reducing death rates, then we should have once again seen a huge spike in the
death rates during these two years, right? Seriously, if the vaccine reduces death rates by
50% as is claimed by vaccine manufacturers, then these two years in which the vaccine
completely missed the mark should have seen huge spikes in the winter death rates, right?
But what really happened was... nothing. Not a blip. Not a spike. Nothing. The death rates
didn't rise at all.]

. If vaccines really worked to save lives, then the more people you vaccinate, the lower death
rates you should see, right? Butthat's not the case. Back in 1989, only 15 percent of over-65
people got vaccinated against the flu. But today, thanks to the big vaccine push, over 65
percent are vaccinated. And yet, amazingly, death rates among the elderly have not gone down
during the flu season. In fact, they've gone up!

. When vaccine promoters (and CDC officials) are challenged about the "50 percent mortality
reduction" myth, they invoke dogmatic language and attack the messenger. They are simply not
willing to consider the possibility that flu vaccines simply don't work.

. Scientists who question the vaccine mythology are routinely shunned by the medical
establishment. Tom Jefferson from the Cochrane Collaboration is an epidemiologist who
questions the claimed benefits of flu vaccines. "The reaction [against Jefferson] has been so
dogmatic and even hysterical that you'd think he was advocating stealing babies" said a
colleague (Majumdar).

. Jefferson is one of the world's best-informed researchers on the flu vaccine. He leads a team
of researchers who have examined hundreds of vaccine studies. To quote directly from the
article: The vast majority of the studies were deeply flawed, says Jefferson. "Rubbish is not a
scientific term, but I think it's the term that applies [to these studies]."

[And here's the real kicker that demonstrates why flu vaccines are useless...]

Flu vaccines only "work" on people who don't need them

. Vaccines supposedly "work" by introducing a weakened viral strain that causes the immune
system to respond by building influenza antibodies. However, as Jefferson points out, only
healthy people produce a good antibody response to the vaccine. And yet it is precisely the
unhealthy people -- the ones who have a poor immune response to the vaccine -- who are
most at risk of being harmed or killed by influenza. But the vaccines don't work in them!

. [In other words -- get this -- flu vaccines only "work" in people who don't need them!]

. [At the same time, it's also accurate to say that vaccines don't work at all in the very people
who theoretically could benefit from them. They only produce antibodies in people who
already have such a strong immune response that they don't need the vaccine in the first place.]

. Jefferson has called for randomized, placebo-controlled studies of the vaccines. But vaccine
pushers are resisting these clinical trials! They call the trials "unethical" [but, in reality, they
know that a randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled study would reveal the complete
failure of flu vaccines, and they will do anything to prevent such a trial from happening. Don't
you find it amazing that drug pushers and vaccine advocates claim they have "science" on
their side, but they won't submit their vaccines to any real science at all?]

. [No placebo-controlled studies have ever been conducted on flu vaccines because the
industry says they would be "unethical." So where do these people get off claiming their
vaccines work at all? The whole industry is based on fabricated statistics that are provably
false... and the injections continue, year after year, with absolutely no benefit to public health
whatsoever...]

Why anti-viral drugs don't work either

. On the anti-viral drug front, hospitals are urged to hand out prescriptions for Tamiflu and
Relenza to almost anyone who is symptomatic, whether they actually have swine flu or not.
Concern is growing about the emergence of drug-resistant strains of swine flu. " Flu can
become resistant to Tamiflu in a matter of days..." says one researcher.

. In 2005, the U.S. government spent $1.8 billion to stockpile antiviral drugs for the military.
This decision was made during the time when Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary.
Rumsfeld also held millions of dollars worth of stock in Gilead Sciences, the company that
holds the patent on Tamiflu. That company saw its stock price rise 50 percent following the
government's stockpiling purchase of Tamiflu.

. The evidence supporting Tamiflu's anti-viral benefits is flimsy at best. Even worse, as many
as one in five children taking Tamiflu experience neuropsychiatric side effects including
hallucinations and suicidal behavior. [In other words, your kid might be "tripping out" on
some bad Tamiflu...]

. Tamiflu is already linked to 50 deaths of children in Japan. Cause of death? Heart failure.

. The evidence supporting Tamiflu is based on cohort studies, just like the vaccines, which
may distort or exaggerate the apparent benefits of the drug.

. Even supporters of Tamiflu admit it's never been proven to help. A CDC official says that
randomized trials to determine the effectiveness of Tamiflu would be "unethical."

. In all, neither vaccines nor anti-viral drugs have any reliable evidence that they work against
influenza at all. Both are being promoted based entirely on pure wishful thinking, not hard
science.

. The history of pharmaceutical medicine is littered with other examples of drugs that doctors
"knew worked" but which later turned out to harm or kill patients. [All along, the proper
scientific studies were avoided because, hey, if you already know everything, why bother
conducting any actual science to prove anything?]

. The hype about vaccines provides a false sense of security, taking away attention from other
things that really do work to prevent influenza deaths. That's why, except for "hand washing,"
virtually no advice has been offered to the public on preventing influenza beyond vaccines and
anti-viral drugs.

. Concluding quote from the author: "By being afraid to do the proper studies now, we may be
condemning ourselves to using treatments based on illusion and faith rather than sound science."

A recap of these astonishing points

Let's recap what we just learned here (because it's just mind-boggling):

. There have been no placebo-controlled studies on flu vaccines because the vaccine pushers
say such clinical trials would be "unethical." Thus, there is actually no hard scientific evidence
that they work at all.

. The "50 percent reduction in mortality" statistic that's tossed around by vaccine pushers is a
total fabrication based on "rubbish" studies ("cohort" studies).

. Scrutinizing the existing studies that claim to support vaccines reveals that flu vaccines simply
don't work. And when vaccines aren't available or the formulation is wrong, there's no spike in
death rates, indicating quite conclusively that these vaccines offer no reduction in mortality.

. Flu vaccines only produce antibodies in people who don't need vaccines. At the same time,
they fail to produce antibodies in people who are most vulnerable to flu. Thus, vaccines only
work in people who don't need them.

. The entire flu vaccine industry is run like a cult, with dogma ruling over science. Anyone who
asks tough, scientific questions is immediately branded a heretic. No one is allowed to question
the status quo. (So much for "evidence-based medicine," huh?)

As you can see from all this, the flu vaccine is pure quackery. Those who administer vaccines
are, by inference, QUACKS. They claim to have scientific minds, and yet they are the most
gullible of all: They will believe almost anything if it's published in a medical journal, even if it's
complete quackery.

Today, countless doctors, nurses and pharmacists across North America and around the
world are pushing a medically worthless, scientifically-fabricated chemical injection that offers
absolutely no benefit to public health... and yet they're convinced it's highly effective! It just
goes to show you how easy it is to brainwash people in the field of conventional medicine.

They've abandoned real science long ago, you know. Now the whole industry is just run on
the momentum of dogmatic arrogance and the illusion of authority. From the CDC and FDA
on down to the local pharmacist at the corner store, the American medical system is run by
some seemingly smart people who have been brainwashed into become full-fledged members
of the Cult of Pharmacology where vaccine mythology overrules real science.

The vaccine industry is perhaps the greatest medical scam ever pulled off in the history of the
world. Don't fall for it.

And don't forget to read the full article in The Atlantic by Shannon Brownlee:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1/3

Why people get vaccinated: Superstition

Reading everything you've read here, you might wonder: Why do people get vaccinated at all?

The reason is because no one knows whether they work or not, so people keep on taking
them "just in case." It's exactly the kind of superstitious ritual that "science-minded skeptics"
rail against on a regular basis... unless, of course, it involves their vaccines, in which case
superstition is all okay.

People take vaccines for the same reason they rub a rabbit's foot. It's a good luck ritual that
may or may not work, but no one really knows. And besides, what's the harm in it? (They
think...)

Personally, I'd rather get some vitamin D and have a healthy, functioning immune system.
But for those who prefer to play the lotto, gamble in Vegas or bet their lives on medical
superstitions, flu vaccines are readily available.

So what are you waiting for? Shoot up a few flu vaccines, rub your lucky rabbit's foot, then
spin around clockwise seven times and you, too, may be able to generate enough luck to
avoid the flu this winter.

http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html
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Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2009 19:50 GMT
>>http://www.klinikskandal.com

>I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
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Strange. The URL is okay. Which browser do you use?

Just scroll down the page. The top is not by me, but by the hoster.
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Bob Officer - 04 Oct 2009 04:17 GMT
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Happy Oyster - 04 Oct 2009 18:39 GMT
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Just tried it again. Not a single error message.

Please, try again.
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Bob Officer - 04 Oct 2009 19:14 GMT
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The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an
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Happy Oyster - 04 Oct 2009 19:36 GMT
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I have no idea about what I could change.

Can you try an other browser, please?
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D. C. Sessions - 03 Oct 2009 20:25 GMT
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Works fine here, jpg image on Firefox/Linux

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Thanks.
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trigonometry1972@gmail.com | - 30 Sep 2009 08:11 GMT
While it is true grilled and cured meat have some
risks. It should also be noted  that baked grain based foods have
risks as well. Some of the risks from meat can
be reduced by somewhat more careful cooking.
and cooking with fruit juice and wine as I recall.
Also raw meat has it champions as well.

At best the veggie diet might be somewhat
preventative but that is different from a CURE.

Understand there are things that might slow some
cancers in the way of supplements and even
diet but they are beyond the scope of what I
am going to add to this thread.

Now I see it........ a Pearl roasted by an Oyster
how unnatural!!.............................Trig
 
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