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Drew - 23 Mar 2004 01:11 GMT
Hello, I live in Melbourne, Australia and was wondering if anyone
could suggest the best place to go for blood test's to determine
mercury and other heavy metal's levels.(considering amalgam removal to
reduce syptoms of lethargy,
poor concentration, gastric discomfort, weakness, to name a few!)

Tia
Peter Moran - 23 Mar 2004 06:26 GMT
> Hello, I live in Melbourne, Australia and was wondering if anyone
> could suggest the best place to go for blood test's to determine
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tia

Why bother with testing, Tia?    Even those with fifty or sixty amalgam
fillings have mercury levels well  below that which has ever been shown to
cause illness in workers exposed to mercury.

Those promoting the idea of mercury poisoning from amalgams are working with
the concept that any level of exposure to mercury has to be very bad and to
have the potential to cause overt illness, even ones not ever seen in
mercury workers..   The laboratories many such persons patronise often use
spurious tests such as hair analysis and live blood cell analysis to
diagnose heavy metal poisoning and  you can be certain will find some
mercury and other "nasties" in you.

If you buy all this, and are desperate enough,  then you might as well run
the various risks of amalgam removal and hope for the best.

If you have other sources of mercury exposure such as eating a lot of fish,
and just want some reassurance, explain it all to your doctor.  He/she
should be able to find out where to get the proper testing done.  You may
have to pay for the tests if there is no Commonwealth Government rebate for
them. but there probably is.

Peter Moran
Jan - 23 Mar 2004 07:20 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Tia

I just cant imagine who Drew johhny@hotmal might be. Oh the mystery.

>Why bother with testing, Tia?    Even those with fifty or sixty amalgam
>fillings have mercury levels well  below that which has ever been shown to
>cause illness in workers exposed to mercury.

Now there's a repeated lie.

But that's the norm for organized member Peter Moran.

Summary Brief Abstract Citation MEDLINE ASN.1 XML/SGML LinkOut Related
>Articles
>> Protein Links Nucleotide Links Popset Links Structure Links GenomeLinks OMIM
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> Seventy-five subjects aged 20 to 57 with 1 to 15 fillings of silver amalgam
>> were examined. The level of mercury vapors in the oral cavity was
assessedusing
>> an AGP-01 device and the method developed by the authors. Emission of
mercury
>> vapors in the oral cavity increased with the number of fillings. The
>> concentration of mercury in the oral cavity depends largely on the number
>> ofsilver amalgam fillings and less so on these fillings' length of
service.Adv
>> Dent Res 1992 Sep;6:110-3
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> special attention to autopsy studies. Until recently, there have been few
>> published studies examining the relationship between dental amalgams and
tissue
>> mercury levels. Improved and highly sensitive tissue analysis techniques
have
>> made it possible to measure elements in the concentration range of parts per
>> billion. The fact that mercury can be absorbed and reach toxic levels in
>> humantissues makes any and all exposure to that element of scientific
interest.

>> Dental amalgams have long been believed to be of little significance as
>> contributors to the overall body burden of mercury, because the elemental
form
>> of mercury is rapidly consumed in the setting reaction of the
>> restoration.Studies showing measurable elemental mercury vapor release from
>> dental amalgams have raised renewed concern about amalgam safety.
>>
>> Mercury vapor absorption occurs through the lungs, with about 80% of the
>> inhaled vapor being absorbed by the lungs and rapidly entering the
bloodstream.
>> Following distribution by blood circulation, mercury can enter and remain in
>> certain tissues for longer periods of time, since the half-life of excretion
is
>> prolonged. Two of the primary arget organs of concern are the central
nervous
>> system and kidneys.
>>
>> Publication Types: Review Review, Tutorial PMID: 1292449 [PubMed - indexed
for
>> MEDLINE] 1: FASEB J 1990 Nov;4(14):3256-60 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
>>
>> Comment in: FASEB J. 1991 Feb;5(2):236.
>>
>> Whole-body imaging of the distribution of mercury released from dental
fillings
>> into monkey tissues.Hahn LJ, Kloiber R, Leininger RW, Vimy MJ, Lorscheider
>> FL.Department of Radiology, University of Calgary, Faculty of Medicine,
>> Alberta,Canada.
>>
>> The fate of mercury (Hg) released from dental "silver" amalgam tooth
fillings
>> into human mouth air is uncertain. A previous report about sheep revealed
>> uptake routes and distribution of amalgam Hg among body tissues. The present
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> When amalgam fillings, which normally contain 50% Hg, are made with a tracer
of
>> radioactive 203Hg and then placed into monkey teeth, the isotope appears in
>> high concentration in various organs and tissues within 4wk. Whole-body
images
>> of the monkey revealed that the highest levels of Hg werel ocated in the
>> kidney, gastrointestinal tract, and jaw.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> Mercury toxicity and dental amalgam.Wolff M, Osborne JW, Hanson AL.There is
>> adequate evidence that dental amalgam restorations, during and after
placement,
>> results in the release of Hg into the patient's body. Whether the Hg
released
>> from amalgam is due to placement procedures, surface abrasion, orl ater
>> corrosion breakdown, there is evidence that a low level Hg release continues
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> tissue and blood, additional studies are necessary to relate blood-Hg levels
>> with dental amalgam restorations. Studies must relate existing restorations
as
>> well as the placement of new restorations to body-Hg levels.
>>
>> It is possible that we have accepted a potentially dangerous material as
being
>> safe.
>>
>> Publication Types: Historical Article PMID: 6361623
>>
>> [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

http://www.chem-tox.com/pregnancy/mercury.htm

Low Level Mercury Causes Behavior Problems During Pregnancy

Subtle behavior problems were observed in mice offspring exposed to a single
low level mercury dose.

In summarizing the results of their study, the researchers stated,

"This hypothesis generating study showed highly significant correlations
between mood scores and most measures of low level Hg (mercury) exposure. The
specific mood measures most associated with Hg exposure were tension, fatigue,
and confusion. The strength of these associations suggests that mood should be
included for investigation in future hypothesis-testing studies..... Among the
cognitive and motor function tests, only the digit span and simple reaction
time (nondominant hand) scores were associated with any measure of
exposure...... Overall, and despite the small size of the study population,
this investigation found some evidence of adverse preclinical effects at
mercury doses averaging 36 ugs/l in urine. The mood and symptom results of this
study agree with prior evaluations of both high and low urinary mercury doses.
These preliminary survey findings support a critical evaluation of the adequacy
of the 50 ug/g creatinine biologic threshold for mercury proposed by the World
Health Organization This is the first U.S. dental study to detect potential
behavioral deficits at such a low level of exposure. A larger and more
comprehensive study is required to accurately determine a biologic threshold of
adverse central and peripheral nervous system effects for elemental mercury."

Drs. Diana Echeverria, Nicholas J. Heyer, Michael D. Martin, Conrad A Naleway
Depart. of Environ. Health, Univ. of Washington, School of Dentistry, Univ. of
Washington
Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol. 17(2):161-168, 1995

Dopamine Uptake in Brain Cells Changed By Methylmercury

Attention Deficit Disorder children were reported in other headings in this
book as having altered dopamine levels. Several compounds, including alcohol,
have been shown to alter dopamine levels in test animals. Now, researchers at
Duke University Medical School have shown that even very low levels of
methylmercury result in dopamine and norepinephrine brain neurotransmitter
changes.

http://www.icnr.securesites.com/hhnewsl.html

US Government Document Admits That Mercury Vapors From Silver Fillings Exceeds
The Minimum Risk Levels Established By The US Department of Health & Human
Services!

http://www.ephca.com/ci&cme.htm

The biology of mercury toxicity has usually been studied after acute short
exposure (hours, days) not chronic (years) low long term exposure. Exposure
from amalgam fillings occurs without interruption for many years and if 3-17
micrograms are lost per day in vapor alone that is 1095 micrograms to 6200
micrograms per year which can amount to as much as 120 mg over 20 years from
the fillings alone---that's a huge amount!!!

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/9/amalgam_safety.htm

Boyd E. Haley  Professor and Chair    behaley@pop.uky.edu
Department of Chemistry    University of Kentucky
http://www.uky.edu/

<snip>

These deaths were identified as being due to a low level toxicity delivered by
caterpillars eating poison plants and later, on migration, depositing their
waste products on grass being eaten by the mares.

The point being, it is the infant in utero that suffered most on exposure to
low level, toxins, not the mother. Combined mercury toxicities can be
devastating, as I reference below and in the many references available on the
http://www.testfoundation.com website

<snip>

However, the fact is that it is quite easy to detect mercury emitting from one
amalgam using these analyzers. Therefore, the "estimate" by this ADA spokesman
is way too low.
==============================
9. The half-time for the elimination of a single dose of mercury is extremely
long, certainly at least 30 days for the whole body, and perhaps as long as
10,000 days for the brain. Multiple small doses will therefore result in body
accumulation.

17. The earliest symptoms of long term, low level mercury poisoning are
subclinical and neurological. Consequently, due to their subtlety, these
symptoms are easily misdiagnosed.

S. Soderstrom, A Fredriksson, L. Dencker, T. Ebendal, "The effect of mercury
vapour on cholinergic neurons in the fetal brain: studies on the expression of
nerve growth factor and its low- and high-affinity receptors," Developmental
Brain Research 85, 96-108 (1995)

These findings suggest that low levels of prenatal mercury vapour
exposure can alter the levels of the NGF and its receptors, indicating neuronal
damage and disturbed trophic regulations during development.

What are the Health Impacts?

Mercury is an element that occurs naturally in the earth?s crust. Most people
and wildlife can generally tolerate the extremely low levels of this naturally
occuring substance. When mercury enters the body it becomes concentrated in
tissue, an effect known as bioaccumulation. Since this element is toxic at very
low concentrations, even slight increases in the minute concentrations
naturally present in the environment can have serious effects on humans and
wildlife.

Mercury is a neurotoxin in low doses, affecting the functioning and
development of the nervous system. Depending on the level of exposure, this
toxin can have varied health effects ranging from mental retardation to death.

Mercury definitely has the ability to cross the placental membranes and so
>> cause health disorders in the unborn child. In studies done by Marsh et al
in
>> 1981 and 1987, they showed that mothers with hair mercury levels of 70-640 m
>> g/gm of hair during pregnancy have 30% increased risk of psychomotor and
other
>> neurological disorders in their infants. Even as low as 10-20 m g/gm can
>> increase risk to 5% (WHO 1990).

      Haley and other scientists, including Vimy and Lorscheider, found
in experiments on rat brains that chronic inhalation of low-level mercury
? at levels that simulate exposure to amalagam fillings ? can inhibit
brain chemistry, producing lesions similar to those in Alzheimer¹s
diseased brains. Mercury inhibits the efficiency of tubulin, a protein
vital to brain cells, they explain.

To Tell the Tooth

by Steven F. Hinchey, D.M.D.

While that is
true, the cumulative release of low doses of mercury may be the same or more
than recognized forms of mercury poisoning. Is it worse to have a mega exposure
to mercury vapor at one time, or is it worse to have a continued low dose
exposure over time? The theories of dental caries (tooth decay) now point to
frequency of exposure to sugar as a strategy to reducing tooth decay. In other
words, frequent small doses of sugar are more harmful to the teeth than one
mega dose of sugar. The same theory probably holds true for mercury. Allergy
desensitization techniques use the theory of very low dose exposures over a
long period of time to cure.

1. Correlation of  plasma Hg with no.of amalgam fillings.
http://tinyurl.com/cdb0  2003

2. Correlation of salivary Hg with no.of amalgam fillings.
http://tinyurl.com/cgs0  2000

3. Correlation of  Hg with no.of amalgam fillings or total
amalgam surface. Evidence of pro-oxidant role of amalgam Hg.
http://tinyurl.com/cgrv  2002

4.  Amount of  Hg in saliva [I-Hg + H(0)] significantly higher in subjects
with amalgam fillings.
http://tinyurl.com/cgs1 2001

5. I-Hg levels in placenta increased with an increasing number of
maternal dental amalgam fillings .... a substantial fraction of
maternal blood I-Hg, probably as Hg(0), reached the fetus.
http://tinyurl.com/cgrz   2002

6. Mercury vapour release increases with chewing,  with absorption and
uptake by the brain and kidneys. (Ref in lit report) "...it has not been
possible to set a level for mercury in blood or urine below which mercury
related symptoms will not occur."
http://tinyurl.com/cczd 2002

7. None of the materials tested consistently prevented microleakage.
http://tinyurl.com/cfcg  2002

8. In neither of the nonamalgam groups was the wastewater limit
exceeded, but 20.5% in the amalgam group exceeded the limit.
http://tinyurl.com/ccyu 2002

9. Amalgam caused nerve cell toxicity in culture.
http://tinyurl.com/ccyo  2003

10. Amalgam induced chromosome aberrations in vitro.
Effects of low level Hg on humans are not clear.
http://tinyurl.com/cgrx   2001

11. Amalgam increased production of antinuclear antibodies
(a risk factor in autoimmune disease).
http://tinyurl.com/cf81  2003
Peter Bowditch - 23 Mar 2004 07:39 GMT
>I just cant imagine who Drew johhny@hotmal might be. Oh the mystery.

Perhaps it's John Drew who says that he lives in Victoria, Australia
and who posts to Usenet from an IP address allocated to an ISP with a
street address in that state.

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Mark Probert-March 22, 2004 - 23 Mar 2004 15:35 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
> >From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> I just cant imagine who Drew johhny@hotmal might be. Oh the mystery.

Whoever he is, he is from Australia. Whom do you "think" it is?

> >Why bother with testing, Tia?    Even those with fifty or sixty amalgam
> >fillings have mercury levels well  below that which has ever been shown to
> >cause illness in workers exposed to mercury.
>
> Now there's a repeated lie.

Peter posted proof of his claim. Thus, it cannot be a lie. You calling him a
liar is a lie, and is the most common lie on all of usenet.

> But that's the norm for organized member Peter Moran.

You would not know what a norm is, if it were inserted into your brain by a
proctoscope.

Snip of Jan's usual diatribe.
Aloha - 24 Mar 2004 20:55 GMT
There is no mystery, I dont post my true identity and contact details on usenet when asking a simple question. My hotmail account is merely a spam trap for emails i havent added to my contacts list (I do double
check these for replies to usenet, and if the the person appears rational and genuine I will add them to my contact list. Since I have no qualifications and am not offering advice to any others I feel this is an acceptable
practice., for those that dont share my opinion please do not read or respond to my posts.

>>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>>From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
[quoted text clipped - 318 lines]
>(a risk factor in autoimmune disease).
>http://tinyurl.com/cf81  2003
Happy Oyster - 24 Mar 2004 04:24 GMT
>Why bother with testing, Tia?    Even those with fifty or sixty amalgam
>fillings have mercury levels well  below that which has ever been shown to
>cause illness in workers exposed to mercury.

Sorry, Sir, but this is not correct. There is a big difference between
acute poisoning and poisoning with low doses over a long time.

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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Peter Moran - 24 Mar 2004 08:04 GMT
> >Why bother with testing, Tia?    Even those with fifty or sixty amalgam
> >fillings have mercury levels well  below that which has ever been shown to
> >cause illness in workers exposed to mercury.
>
> Sorry, Sir, but this is not correct. There is a big difference between
> acute poisoning and poisoning with low doses over a long time.

Sorry, mate, it is to such chronic exposure that I refer.   There is a vast
experience of  chronic occupational mercury poisoning to draw upon.

In addition, a  lot of studies have looked at the health of those with and
without amalgams  and have been unable to establish any health impairment
from them .   One study only, which has never been replicated, purports to
find a statistical correlation of minor neuropsychiatric abnormalities on
sophisticated testing with mercury levels that can theoretically be
approached by mercury release from a lot of amalgams.   The same authors
have never been able to show overt  (symptomatic) illness from them.

I don't care enormously if those with vague illnesses want to go through the
expense and hazards of amalgam removal.  Best of British luck to them.   At
least most of them will regret it, for such illnesses are extremely
prevalent in people without amalgams.

My main interest in this field derived from the ignorant  cruelty of those
advising amalgam removal for cancer .     There is no rhyme or reason to
that.

Peter Moran
Jan - 24 Mar 2004 08:45 GMT
>From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
>Date: 3/23/2004 11:04 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id:
><406132f5$0$26964$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>

>My main interest in this field derived from the ignorant  cruelty of those
>advising amalgam removal for cancer .     There is no rhyme or reason to
>that.
>
>Peter Moran

http://www.testfoundation.org/cancerwarnings.htm

Dentists to post cancer warnings
Advisory will warn patients of exposure to mercury, other chemicals

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By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

Tri-Valley Herald

Saturday, December 14, 2002

http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86%257E10669%257E1052642,00.html

A new warning sign will show up in dentists' offices statewide in early 2003,
letting patients know their visit may entail exposure to mercury and
cancer-causing chemicals.

Health advocates say the move puts California in the lead of a small but
growing nationwide trend of warning patients about the mercury contained in
amalgam fillings. Both New Hampshire and Maine now have laws requiring consumer
notification and education about the mercury in dental amalgams, and similar
legislation was recently introduced in Massachusetts, according to Michael
Bender, director of the Mercury Project.

The California Dental Association agreed to require its members to post the
warning to settle a lawsuit brought against the association by As You Sow, a
San Francisco environmental group. On Monday, representatives from the two
groups and the state Attorney General's office will meet in San Francisco
Superior Court for what all parties expect will be final approval of the
settlement.

An estimated 12,000 dentists in the state don't belong to the dental
association, and thus won't be required to post the sign, but many are also
expected to join the settlement. Those joining the settlement are protected
from patient lawsuits over any of the substances listed in the agreement, said
Jim Dufour, the attorney representing the dental association.

The environmental group filed suit in 2001 under California's Proposition 65,
an initiative approved by voters in 1986 that requires businesses and employers
to post warnings if their activities may expose customers or employees to
chemicals -- or in the case of mercury, a metal -- that are known to harm
health. Cur- rently, Prop. 65 warning signs for a range of toxic substances are
found in venues as diverse as bars, gas stations and factories.

The settlement between the dental association and As You Sow calls for the
18,000 dentists belonging to the association, as well as dental schools, to
mount a sign that notifies patients that dental amalgam contains mercury. Part
of the message will state that mercury is known "to cause birth defects or
other reproductive harm," according to Shawn Khorrami, the Van Nuys attorney
representing As You Sow. It also will warn that chemicals known to cause cancer
-- specifically chloroform and methylene chloride -- are in sealants used in
root canal, fillings, bridges and crown treatments.

While Dufour said the lawsuit "was quite amicably resolved," both sides remain
deeply divided over the meaning of the warning.

As the dental association sees it, the warning simply provides consumers with
information about a potential risk, since Prop. 65 requires a warning when
people will be exposed to one-one-thousandth of the exposure known to cause
harm.

"The state law requires a warning to customers at a very, very low level of
exposure to make informed decisions," Dufour said. "Prop 65 is not about a
health risk. It's a consumers' rights law."

Even though the association agreed to post the warning, the group still
believes dental amalgams are safe, said Lori Reed, a spokeswoman for the group.

"Even though the amalgams contains mercury, there is no scientific evidence
that mercury (in them) causes serious illness," she said, adding that her group
relies on guidance from federal health agencies regarding the safety of
amalgams. The Food and Drug Administration, which regulates dental amalgams,
states that the mercury in the compound poses no health risk.

But Ed Weil, the deputy state attorney general handling the case, views the
purpose of the notice differently. "We regard the warnings as health warnings.
I know the dental people don't regard it that way.

"It's a health warning, but there are degrees of all of this," he added. "The
purpose of Prop 65 is to give people information and let them make their own
choices. The idea is instead of (the state) deciding what you should and
shouldn't know, we're going to give you the information and let you decide."

Khorrami, on the other hand, is unequivocal that the mercury contained in
dental amalgams -- which also contain silver, tin and copper -- poses a
significant risk. Amalgam filling emits mercury vapors, particularly when
exposed to hot foods or liquid, pressure like chewing, or abrasion from
toothbrushes, according to Boyd Haley, the chair of the chemistry department at
the University of Kentucky, and one of the nation's leading scientists opposed
to the use of mercury in dental practice.

"It's constantly emitted, so there's chronic exposure," said Khorrami.

Haley said that the mercury vapors can cause neurological harm, as the heavy
metal interferes with the function of proteins. "In the case of neurons, it
disrupts the nerve action," he said.

While the new ruling will only apply to dentists who belong to the association
and who have 10 or more employees, many members of the group with fewer than 10
employees are also expected to post the signs as they become available over the
two to three months.

Contact Suzanne Bohan at sbohan@angnewspapers.com

http://www.chem-tox.com/immunesystem/immune-sys-index.htm

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research how chemicals impact the immune system (the science of
immuno-toxicology). Currently, chemical companies such as DOW, DUPONT, UNION
CARBIDE, MONSANTO and others are not required by the EPA to test their chemical
products for subtle or gradual harmful effects upon the immune system.
However, independent research has found this immune system problem can occur
from exposure to home and lawn/garden pesticides, disinfectants, cosmetic
product chemicals, plastics, vinyl compounds, alcohol, car exhaust,
electro-magnetic radiation (EMR), mercury (as in mercury/silver amalgam
fillings and other sources.  What is very worrisome is the fact that when an
individual receives exposure to many of these sources simultaneously, the
harmful effects upon the immune system are sometimes far greater ( 1 + 1 = 3).

Health effects resulting from a weakened immune system have now been found to
include - increased frequency and duration of colds and flu, allergies, asthma,
autoimmune disorders such as diabetes, arthritis, lupus and others.  Of
particular concern is new research showing how children with low function in
parts of their immune system are contracting cancer (and dying of cancer) at
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CHEMOTHERAPY - These drugs used to kill cancer cells can also weaken the immune
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http://www.thorne.com/townsend/oct/mercury.html

http://www.mercury-free.com/

http://www.aznetnews.com/story.php?storyid=375

What the rest of the world knows that you don’t

Dr. Larry Clapp

What Americans don’t know about cancer can hurt them.Did you know that
mercury fillings (silver amalgam fillings) can cause cancer? If you were
Swedish, you’d know that. Your insurance plan would pay whatever it cost to
remove the fillings. If you refused, you’d be denied any health insurance
because your cancer and disease risk would be considered too high.Did you know
that cancer cannot live in a pH-balanced environment? If you lived in Germany,
you might know that. In 1931, a German professor won the Nobel Prize for
proving this. Tests for determining your pH balance will help show you which
areas of your body that are most at risk. These testing methods, available in
Europe, are becoming obtainable in the United States.Did you know that mercury
fillings cause toxic deposits in your neck, under your arms and in your groin,
increasing your risk of cancer in these areas? If you were German, you might
know that too. The research was conducted there years ago, and the use of
mercury fillings has been strongly discouraged there ever since. Germans also
know about hidden infections in the mouth that cause weakening of the immune
system, bones and tissue without external signs. The U.S. medical world has
done little research into the side effects of amalgam fillings. (See
www.amalgam.org for more information.)Did you know that 200,000 American men
are diagnosed with prostate cancer each year? If you were Asian or African, you
might not even know there was such a thing as prostate cancer. It’s seldom
seen in less technological countries. Unfortunately, when Africans move to the
United States, one in three develop prostate cancer by age 50. The increased
exposure to fats and sugars, pollution and stress will kill many of them. In
the United States, 40,000 men have prostate surgery each year, resulting in
impotence and incontinence and, in over half the cases, the cancer returns.Did
you know that fasting improves circulation which, in turn, reduces cancer risk
and greatly increases sexual performance? If you were living in Asia or many
areas of the Middle East, you would probably be fasting on a regular basis for
religious and cultural reasons. You would probably expect to enjoy health and
sexual vigor far into your senior years.Fasting also assists in managing
parasites. The presence of parasites in the body is an accepted fact outside of
the United States, and everyone has them. Parasites create toxins in the body
and also are linked to cancer. This is just one more thing that Americans
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road a long time ago when it decided to treat cancer as something to be
attacked with medical weapons and not as a symptom of an unhealthy lifestyle.
Americans invest in high-tech solutions rather than look for simpler, saner
answers. To someone with prostate cancer, it could make a world of
difference.10 steps to a healthy prostate• Avoid sugar, tobacco, processed
foods, sodas, spicy foods, caffeine and alcohol. All are harmful to the
prostate.• Eat fresh, organic fruits and vegetables as much as possible,
adding reasonable amounts of soy products to your diet.• Avoid saturated
fats, meats, dairy and limit calories from fat to 20 percent of total daily
calories.• Have a happy love and sex life.• Have a checkup by a biological
dentist. Problems in the mouth such as amalgam fillings, infections and root
canals cause prostate problems.• Utilize the Biological Terrain Assessment
(BTA) to reverse acidity and pH balance your body so that cancer cannot
survive.• Exercise regularly, as well as using breathing and meditation to
handle stress, a major factor in prostate problems.• Have Prostate-specific
Antigent (PSA) and Expressed Prostate Secretion (EPS) tests to determine
prostate health in your 40s, then annually after 50. Avoid taking antibiotics
that have been shown to exacerbate prostatitis. Prostatitis can be cured before
it becomes cancer using the herbal product Peenuts.• Take supplements such as
neoProstate, saw palmetto, zinc, nettles and avena setiva as indicated by the
BTA and/or as recommended by your health professional.  
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done extensive research into self-healing alternatives. He has developed a
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http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/mercury.html

Mercury Compounds

Hazard Summary

Mercury exists in three forms: elemental mercury, inorganic mercury compounds
(primarily mercuric chloride), and organic mercury compounds (primarily methyl
mercury).  All forms of mercury are quite toxic, and each form exhibits
different health effects. Acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of
elemental mercury in humans results in central nervous system (CNS) effects
such as tremors, mood changes, and slowed sensory and motor nerve function.
Chronic (long-term) exposure to elemental mercury in humans also affects the
CNS, with effects such as erethism (increased excitability), irritability,
excessive shyness, and tremors.  Human studies are inconclusive regarding
elemental mercury and cancer. Acute exposure to inorganic mercury by the oral
route may result in effects such as nausea, vomiting, and severe abdominal
pain.  The major effect from chronic exposure to inorganic mercury is kidney
damage. Animal studies have reported effects such as alterations in testicular
tissue, increased resorption rates, and abnormalities of development. Mercuric
chloride (an inorganic mercury compound) exposure has been shown to result in
forestomach, thyroid, and renal tumors in experimental animals. Acute exposure
of humans to very high levels of methyl mercury results in CNS effects such as
blindness, deafness, and impaired level of consciousness. Chronic exposure to
methyl mercury in humans also affects the CNS with symptoms such as paresthesia
(a sensation of pricking on the skin), blurred vision, malaise, speech
difficulties, and constriction of the visual field. Methyl mercury exposure,
via the oral route, has led to significant developmental effects. Infants born
to women who ingested high levels of methyl mercury exhibited mental
retardation, ataxia, constriction of the visual field, blindness, and cerebral
palsy. Please Note: The main sources of information for this fact sheet are
EPA's Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS), which contains information on
inhalation chronic toxicity and the RfC for elemental mercury, oral chronic
toxicity and the RfD for inorganic and methyl mercury, EPA's Mercury Study
Report to Congress, and the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry's
(ATSDR's) Toxicological Profile for Mercury. Other secondary sources include
the World Health Organization's Environmental Health Criteria Documents on
Methyl Mercury and Inorganic Mercury.
Happy Oyster - 24 Mar 2004 16:11 GMT
>Dentists to post cancer warnings
>Advisory will warn patients of exposure to mercury, other chemicals

Jan Drew copies wildly any stuff he can get, and mixes up facts with
fiction. Why so? Because Jan Drew is an advertizing agency for the
naturopath mafia and that way disguises his advertizing.  

Jan Drew by no means is a person who can be believed. Jan Drew abuses
honorable scientists like Mr. Vimy, Mr. Lorscheider, etc for his
insane advertizing for insane junk.

More about Jan Drew, the shame of the human race :

  http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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Jan - 24 Mar 2004 16:31 GMT
>http://www.testfoundation.org/cancerwarnings.htm
>
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>the World Health Organization's Environmental Health Criteria Documents on
>Methyl Mercury and Inorganic Mercury.
Happy Oyster - 24 Mar 2004 16:08 GMT
>Sorry, mate, it is to such chronic exposure that I refer.   There is a vast
>experience of  chronic occupational mercury poisoning to draw upon.

Sorry, Sir, but there you are mistaken. The laws and rules for
environmental poisoning AT WORK are quite different from those in
NORMAL life, like at home.

>In addition, a  lot of studies have looked at the health of those with and
>without amalgams  and have been unable to establish any health impairment
>from them .  

There is a key error in all those studies : They do not have enough
material for comparison. If more than 90 percent of the population are
affected, you do not have enough probands for long-term studies.

Do you remember the coffee-study in scandinavia, which lasted about 20
years ? The key error there was that they studied the effect of
coffee, and did not consider that coffee is drunk at a high
temperature, which will vaporize mercury from amalgam fillings. The
result of the study is, that the more coffee is drunk, the more
problems with joints occur (if I remember this point correctly).

We now could claim, that this result was caused NOT by the ingredients
of the coffee, but by dental amalgam being vaporized by hot coffee.
The studies done by Tekran support this.

BUT, this still is no proof, as we need a study, lasting about 20
years with persons who never had and in these 20 years never will have
dental amalgam. And we need another group which drinks another HOT
drinks, but no coffee. How many millions people to you need to start
with, to get this study done... ? Too many.. So it will never be
done...

>One study only, which has never been replicated, purports to
>find a statistical correlation of minor neuropsychiatric abnormalities on
>sophisticated testing with mercury levels that can theoretically be
>approached by mercury release from a lot of amalgams.   The same authors
>have never been able to show overt  (symptomatic) illness from them.

As for some years now I deal with other topics : which study do you
mean ?

>I don't care enormously if those with vague illnesses want to go through the
>expense and hazards of amalgam removal.  Best of British luck to them.   At
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>advising amalgam removal for cancer .     There is no rhyme or reason to
>that.

Yes, the old problem : no valid diagnoses - because of
god-damned-stupid "healers" and "medical doctors"... People are ill
and seek the cause for their illnesses and - as being laymen - are
ripped off by the whole health scene...

The key here is that the good medical doctors do not fight fiercely
enough for scientific medicine, but instead help to cover up the
criminals, MDs and "healers" the like...  

We need a fortified medicine !

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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Peter Moran - 24 Mar 2004 21:55 GMT
> >Sorry, mate, it is to such chronic exposure that I refer.   There is a vast
> >experience of  chronic occupational mercury poisoning to draw upon.
>
> Sorry, Sir, but there you are mistaken. The laws and rules for
> environmental poisoning AT WORK are quite different from those in
> NORMAL life, like at home.

Yes, those who work in the mercury industry have much higher mercury loads
and much higher mercury excretion than those who don't but only have
amalgams.    And amongst th workers it is only those with the highest
urinary mercury excretions who show deleterious effects.

> >In addition, a  lot of studies have looked at the health of those with and
> >without amalgams  and have been unable to establish any health impairment
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> material for comparison. If more than 90 percent of the population are
> affected, you do not have enough probands for long-term studies.

No problem.  You determine whether there is a correlation between symptoms
and number of amalgam surfaces, or daily mercury excretion.  This has been
done and there is none.
Here is an example of such a study ---

Environ Health Perspect 2003 May;111(5):719-23

Mercury derived from dental amalgams and neuropsychologic function.

Factor-Litvak P, Hasselgren G, Jacobs D, Begg M, Kline J, Geier J, Mervish

N, Schoenholtz S, Graziano J.

Department of Epidemiology and Department of Environmental Health Sciences,

Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, New York,

USA.

There is widespread concern regarding the safety of silver-mercury amalgam

dental restorations, yet little evidence to support their harm or safety. We

examined whether mercury dental amalgams are adversely associated with

cognitive functioning in a cross-sectional sample of healthy working adults.

We studied 550 adults, 30-49 years of age, who were not occupationally

exposed to mercury. Participants were representative of employees at a major

urban medical center. Each participant underwent a neuropsychologic test

battery, a structured questionnaire, a modified dental examination, and

collection of blood and urine samples. Mercury exposure was assessed using

a) urinary mercury concentration (UHg); b) the total number of amalgam

surfaces; and c) the number of occlusal amalgam surfaces. Linear regression

analysis was used to estimate associations between each marker of mercury

exposure and each neuropsychologic test, adjusting for potential confounding

variables. Exposure levels were relatively low. The mean UHg was 1.7 micro

g/g creatinine (range, 0.09-17.8); the mean total number of amalgam surfaces

was 10.6 (range, 0-46) and the mean number of occlusal amalgam surfaces was

6.1 (range, 0-19). No measure of exposure was significantly associated with

the scores on any neuropsychologic test in analyses that adjusted for the

sampling design and other covariates. In a sample of healthy working adults,

mercury exposure derived from dental amalgam restorations was not associated

with any detectable deficits in cognitive or fine motor functioning.

PMID: 12727600 [PubMed - in process]

> Do you remember the coffee-study in scandinavia, which lasted about 20
> years ? The key error there was that they studied the effect of
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> with, to get this study done... ? Too many.. So it will never be
> done...

Or you you can just try and show if the presence of amalgams has any
correlation with poor health, coffee or no.

Here is the closest we have to a prospective study looking at a wide variety
of symptoms, mortality and blood tests. ---
Acta Odontol Scand 1999 Jun;57(3):168-74

Serum mercury concentration in relation to survival, symptoms, and diseases:
results from the prospective population study of women in Gothenburg,
Sweden.

Ahlqwist M, Bengtsson C, Lapidus L, Gergdahl IA, Schutz A

Department of Oral Diagnostic Radiology, Goteborg University, Gothenburg,
Sweden.

[Medline record in process]

A prospective population study of women in Gothenburg, Sweden was started in
1968-69 and comprised 1462 women aged 38, 46, 50, 54, or 60 years at
baseline. Follow-up studies were carried out in 1974-75, 1980-B11, and
1992-93. The baseline study included an extensive medical and dental
examination. Serum mercury concentration (beta-HG) was determined in
deep-frozen samples from all participants in 1968-69 and in a random
subsample of sera from participants in 1980-81, about 20 years after the
baseline examination. S-Hg was statistically significantly correlated with
number of amalgam fillings at both examinations. Of 30 defined symptoms and
4 different clusters of symptoms, no one was independently correlated with
S-Hg measured in the samples from 1968-69, while there was a negative
statistically significant correlation with over-exertion and poor appetite
in 1980-81. Blood hemoglobin and serum B-12 concentrations in 1968-69 were
statistically significantly and positively correlated with S-Hg, while
erythrocyte sedimentation rate and the serum concentrations of potassium and
triglycerides were significantly and negatively correlated with S-Hg, also
after including potential confounders. Blood hematocrit examined in 1980-81
was negatively correlated with S-Hg. When including potential confounders,
serum IgA was also statistically significantly correlated with S-Hg, but not
in univariate analysis. No statistically significant correlation was
observed between S-Hg, on the one hand, and the incidence of diabetes,
myocardial infarction, stroke, or cancer on the other, while a statistically
significant negative correlation was observed with overall mortality when
age and education were included as background variables. There were some
correlations between biological variables and S-Hg, probably of no negative
clinical significance, and we conclude that there is no association between
disease and S-Hg on a population basis in middle-aged and older women.

PMID: 10480284, UI: 99408161

> >One study only, which has never been replicated, purports to
> >find a statistical correlation of minor neuropsychiatric abnormalities on
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> As for some years now I deal with other topics : which study do you
> mean ?

Lucchini R, Cortesi I, Facco P, Benedetti L, Camerino D, Carta P, Urbano ML,
Zaccheo A, Alessio L.

Cattedra di Medicina del Lavoro, Universita di Brescia, P.le Spedali Civili
1, 25125 Brescia.

OBJECTIVES: To assess early effects on the Central Nervous System due to
occupational exposure to low levels of inorganic mercury (Hg) in a
multicenter nationwide cross-sectional study, including workers from
chloro-alkali plants, chemical industry, thermometer and fluorescent lamp
manufacturing. The contribution of non-occupational exposure to inorganic Hg
from dental amalgams and to organic Hg from fish consumption was also
considered. METHODS: Neuropsychological and neuroendocrine functions were
examined in a population of 122 workers occupationally exposed to Hg, and
196 control subjects, not occupationally exposed to Hg. Neuropsychological
functions were assessed with neurobehavioral testing including vigilance,
motor and cognitive function, tremor measurements, and with symptoms
concerning neuropsychological and mood assessment. Neuroendocrine functions
were examined with the measurement of prolactin secretion. The target
population was also characterized by the surface of dental amalgams and sea
fish consumption. RESULTS: In the exposed workers the mean urinary Hg (HgU)
was 10.4 +/- 6.9 (median 8.3, geometric mean 8.3, range 0.2-35.2)
micrograms/g creatinine, whereas in the control group the mean HgU was 1.9
+/- 2.8 (median 1.2, geometric mean 1.2, range 0.1-33.2) micrograms/g
creatinine. The results indicated homogeneous distribution of most
neurobehavioral parameters among exposed and controls. On the contrary,
finger tapping (p < 0.01) and the BAMT (Branches Alternate Movement Task)
coordination test (p = 0.05) were associated with occupational exposure,
indicating an impairment in the exposed subjects. Prolactin levels resulted
significantly decreased among the exposed workers, and inversely related to
HgU on an individual basis (p < 0.05). An inverse association was also
observed between most neuropsychological symptoms and sea fish consumption,
indicating a "beneficial effect" from eating sea fish. On the contrary, no
effects were observed as a function of dental amalgams. CONCLUSIONS: In
conclusion, this study supports the finding of early alterations of motor
function and neuroendocrine secretion at very low exposure levels of
inorganic Hg, below the current ACGIH BEI and below the most recent exposure
levels reported in the literature.

There is another, that I cannot turn up for now, but which will be in the
archives of this group.

Peter Moran

> >I don't care enormously if those with vague illnesses want to go through the
> >expense and hazards of amalgam removal.  Best of British luck to them.   At
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> enough for scientific medicine, but instead help to cover up the
> criminals, MDs and "healers" the like...

> We need a fortified medicine !
>
> Regards,
>
> Aribert Deckers
Jan - 25 Mar 2004 00:22 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
>Date: 3/24/2004 12:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id:
><4061f5ac$0$32758$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-01.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>

>No problem.  You determine whether there is a correlation between symptoms
>and number of amalgam surfaces, or daily mercury excretion.  This has been
>done and there is none.

These are invisible to members of organized medicine and dentistry.

http://tinyurl.com/cdb0

: Sci Total Environ. 2003 Jan 1;301(1-3):43-50.     Related Articles, Links
   
 
Influence of amalgam fillings on Hg levels and total antioxidant activity in
plasma of healthy donors.

Pizzichini M, Fonzi M, Giannerini F, Mencarelli M, Gasparoni A, Rocchi G,
Kaitsas V, Fonzi L.

Department of Biomedical Sciences, University of Siena, Via A Moro 8, 53100
Siena, Italy. pizzichini@unisi.it

In order to evaluate the influence of specific factors on mercury (P-Hg) levels
and antioxidant power (P-FRAP) in human plasma, 26 healthy donors were examined
by a dentist, their plasma analyzed for Hg by atomic absorption spectrometry
and for total antioxidant activity by FRAP method. Hg plasma concentration was
found to be correlated with the number of amalgam fillings, suggesting that Hg
released from fillings is a source of Hg in non-occupational exposed subjects.
P-FRAP correlated negatively with P-Hg suggesting a pro-oxidant role of the Hg
released from amalgam fillings. Though age by itself was not significantly
correlated with P-FRAP, when considered together with P-Hg in multivariate
analysis, it was found to be a major related cofactor. Multivariate analysis
showed no influence of fish consumption or cigarette smoking on P-FRAP.
Copyright 2002 Elsevier Science B.V.

PMID: 12493183 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

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: Bull Group Int Rech Sci Stomatol Odontol. 2000 May-Dec;42(2-3):88-93.
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Salivary mercury levels in healthy donors with and without amalgam fillings.

Pizzichini M, Fonzi M, Gasparoni A, Fonzi L.

Department of Biomedical Science, University of Siena, Siena, Italy.

Dental amalgam (AMG) is the most diffused dental filling material. Since it is
constituted for at least 40-45% of Hg, many questions have raised about its
safe use. Hg particles from dental amalgam dissolve in saliva and, being
ingested, they reach the blood stream through the intestinal mucosa. It has
been demonstrated that amalgam fillings continuously release Hg vapour and that
there is detectable Hg in expired and inspired air of amalgam owners. It is not
yet fully accepted that AMG fillings represent the principal source of Hg for
man and the aim of this study was to evaluate if the mercury level in saliva:
1) was higher within people bearing dental amalgam restorations than in people
with no restorations; 2) was different between males or females; 3) increased
in relation to the surface of amalgam restorations. The results showed a
correlation between number of fillings and salivary Hg, between amalgam surface
and salivary Hg. The Authors could finally assert that AMG fillings represented
the principal source of salivary Hg in the subjects studied.

PMID: 11799732 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

http://tinyurl.com/cgrv 

Sci Total Environ. 2002 Feb 4;284(1-3):19-25.     Related Articles, Links

Release of mercury from dental amalgam and its influence on salivary
antioxidant activity.

Pizzichini M, Fonzi M, Sugherini L, Fonzi L, Gasparoni A, Comporti M, Pompella
A.

Department of Biomedical Sciences, University of Siena, Italy.

Dental amalgam fillings are known to release significant amounts of mercury
(Hg) in saliva which could represent a continuous source of oxidative damage to
mouth tissues. The present investigation was aimed at verifying this hypothesis
by determining a possible correlation between salivary Hg levels and salivary
total antioxidant activity (TAA), which is used as an index of oxidative
stress. Samples of saliva from 34 healthy donors were analyzed for Hg content,
by vapor atomic absorption spectrometry, and for TAA, by determining the ferric
reducing ability ('FRAP' method). A significant correlation between Hg and the
number of amalgam restorations or total amalgam surface was evident in both the
male and female subjects. A significant negative correlation between TAA and Hg
levels or number of amalgam restorations or amalgam surface was evident in
females, indicating that small increases in salivary Hg were sufficient to
produce a decrease in salivary TAA. On the other hand, no significant
correlation was found in the males. The present study provides, for the first
time, evidence of a pro-oxidant role of the amalgam Hg chronically released in
saliva.

PMID: 11846163 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

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: Caries Res. 2001 May-Jun;35(3):163-6.     Related Articles, Links

 
Dental amalgam fillings and the amount of organic mercury in human saliva.

Leistevuo J, Leistevuo T, Helenius H, Pyy L, Osterblad M, Huovinen P, Tenovuo
J.

The National Public Health Institute, Antimicrobial Research Laboratory, Turku
University, Turku, Finland.

We studied differences in the amounts of organic and inorganic mercury in
saliva samples between amalgam and nonamalgam human study groups. The amount of
organic and inorganic mercury in whole saliva was measured in 187 adult study
subjects. The mercury contents were determined by cold-vapor atomic absorption
spectrometry. The amount of organic and inorganic mercury in
paraffin-stimulated saliva was significantly higher (p<0.001) in subjects with
dental amalgam fillings (n = 88) compared to the nonamalgam study groups (n =
43 and n = 56): log(e) (organic mercury) was linearly related to log(e)
(inorganic mercury, r(2) = 0.52). Spearman correlation coefficients of
inorganic and organic mercury concentrations with the number of amalgam-filled
tooth surfaces were 0.46 and 0.27, respectively. Our results are compatible
with the hypothesis that amalgam fillings may be a continuous source of organic
mercury, which is more toxic than inorganic mercury, and almost completely
absorbed by the human intestine.

PMID: 11385194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

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1: Environ Health Perspect. 2002 May;110(5):523-6.     Related Articles, Links
   
 
Inorganic mercury and methylmercury in placentas of Swedish women.

Ask K, Akesson A, Berglund M, Vahter M.

Division of Metals and Health, Institute of Environmental Medicine, Karolinska
Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden.

We determined levels of inorganic mercury (I-Hg) and methylmercury in placentas
from 119 Swedish women, not selected with respect to high exposure of mercury.
Our objective was to relate placental Hg species with maternal and fetal blood
concentrations and to evaluate possible associations with selenium. We
performed the analyses using automated alkaline solubilization/reduction and
cold-vapor atomic fluorescence spectrophotometry. I-Hg levels in placenta
increased with an increasing number of maternal dental amalgam fillings (p <
0.001). Despite placental accumulation (median, 1.3 microg/kg; range, 0.18-6.7
microg/kg wet weight), a substantial fraction of maternal blood I-Hg, probably
as Hg(0), reached the fetus. Although MeHg transferred easily to the fetus, it
also accumulated in the placenta. On average, 60% of placental Hg was in the
form of MeHg. The median concentration was 1.8 microg/kg (range, 0-6.2
microg/kg wet weight), more than twice the maternal blood concentration. We
found significant associations between MeHg and selenium in both maternal and
umbilical cord blood but not in the placenta. The associations were
particularly obvious in freshwater fish consumers, probably reflecting that
fish is a source of both MeHg and selenium. We found no correlations between
I-Hg and selenium. This study increases the understanding of Hg, in its
different forms, in human placenta and how they are related to maternal and
fetal exposure.

PMID: 12003757 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

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1: Med Lav. 2002 May-Jun;93(3):139-47.     Related Articles, Links

Mercury exposure and early effects: an overview.

Kazantzis G.

Environmental Geochemistry Research Group, Department of Environmental Science
and Technology, Imperial College of Science, Technology & Medicine, Prince
Consort Road, London SW7 2BP, UK.

OBJECTIVES: This paper was given as a keynote address at the conference on The
Assessment of the Effects Due to Low Doses of Inorganic Mercury following
Environmental and Occupational Exposures: Human and in vitro Studies on the
Specific Mechanisms of Toxicity in Gargnano, Italy, in September 2001. METHODS:
The most relevant literature over the past 40 years has been reviewed, and in
particular, the proceedings of the World Health Organisation conferences on the
health effects of inorganic and organic mercury exposure have been considered.
RESULTS: In an uncontaminated environment the general population is exposed to
mercury vapour from the atmosphere and from dental amalgam, while the diet,
mainly from fish, is the principal source for methyl mercury absorption.
Mercury vapour release from amalgam fillings increases with chewing, with
absorption and uptake by the brain and kidneys. Infants exposed to phenyl
mercury from treated diapers and young children ingesting mercurous chloride in
teething powders have developed acrodynia (pink disease), and Kawasaki disease
and the use of mercurial skin lightening creams has been followed by the
development of the nephrotic syndrome. Both mercury compounds and mercury
vapour have given rise to contact dermatitis in the general population.
Epidemics of mercury poisoning have followed release of mercury into the
environment from industrial activity, with uptake of methyl mercury from fish
eating in Minamata Bay and uptake of both inorganic and methyl mercury
following release of mercury vapour and deposition into waterways from gold
recovery procedures in the Amazon basin. The ingestion of wheat and barley seed
treated with an alkyl mercury fungicide for sowing, by a largely illiterate
population in Iraq, led to a major outbreak of poisoning with a high fatality
rate. Following exposure to mercury vapour, the earliest clinically observed
adverse effects at urine mercury levels of the order of 30-100 mg/g creatinine,
are objectively detectable tremor, psychological disorder and impaired nerve
conduction velocity in sensitive subjects, with subjective symptoms of
irritability, fatigue and anorexia. At these and at lower levels, proteinuria
has also been observed. Both glomerular and tubular damage may occur at
exposure levels lower than those giving rise to central nervous system effects.
An immunological effect has also been observed in studies on clinically
asymptomatic workers with low level exposure. CONCLUSIONS: As mercury can give
rise to allergic and immunotoxic reactions which may be genetically regulated,
in the absence of adequate dose-response studies for immunologically sensitive
individuals, it has not been possible to set a level for mercury in blood or
urine below which mercury related symptoms will not occur.

Publication Types:
Lectures
PMID: 12197264 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

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1: Neuroendocrinol Lett. 2003 Feb-Apr;24(1-2):65-7.     Related Articles, Links
   

Dental amalgam as one of the risk factors in autoimmune diseases.

Bartova J, Prochazkova J, Kratka Z, Benetkova K, Venclikova Z, Sterzl I.

Institute of Dental Research, lst Medical Faculty, Charles University and
General Faculty Hospital Prague, Vinohradska 48, 120 60 Prague 2, Czech
Republic. jirina.bartova@post.cz

BACKGROUND: Experimental and clinical data published recently show that dental
amalgam can give rise to undesirable immunological responses in susceptible
individuals. In genetically susceptible strains of experimental animals,
mercury and silver can induce autoimmune responses. Sera of patients sensitive
to mercury were found to have a higher incidence of autoantibodies relative to
controls. OBJECTIVE: The aim of this study was to determine possible presence
of antinuclear SSB/La autoantibodies after the in vitro stimulation of
peripheral blood lymphocytes with HgCl2. METHODS: Lymphocytes were obtained
from patients with autoimmune thyroiditis and increased response to mercury in
vitro. Mononuclear cells were cultivated for 6 days with 100 microl HgCl2
solution or with pure medium and the levels of antinuclear autoantibodies
SSB/La were assayed by a commercial SSB/La ELISA kit. RESULTS: Increased
production of SSB/La autoantibodies in the media following stimulation of
peripheral blood lymphocytes with HgCl2 was found in all cases. Using the
Student's paired test, the results were significant on the p=0.05 significance
level. CONCLUSION: Results imply that, in some patients with thyroiditis,
mercury from dental amalgam can stimulate the production of antinuclear
antibodies. Dental amalgam may be a risk factor in some patients with
autoimmune disease.

PMID: 12743535 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1995 Mar-Apr;17(2):161-8.  Related Articles, Links  

 
Behavioral effects of low-level exposure to elemental Hg among dentists.

Echeverria D, Heyer NJ, Martin MD, Naleway CA, Woods JS, Bittner AC Jr.

Battelle Center for Public Health Research and Evaluation (CPHRE), Seattle, WA
98105, USA.

Exposure thresholds for health effects associated with elemental mercury (Hg
degree) exposure were examined by comparing behavioral test scores of 19
exposed (mean urinary Hg = 36 micrograms/l) with those of 20 unexposed
dentists. Thirty-six micrograms Hg/l is 7 times greater than the 5 micrograms
Hg/l mean level measured in a national sample of dentists. To improve the
distinction between recent and cumulative effects, the study also evaluated
porphyrin concentrations in urine, which are correlated with renal Hg content
(a measure of cumulative body burden). Subjects provided an on-site spot urine
sample, were administered a 1-h assessment consisting of a consent form, the
Profile of Mood Scales, a symptom and medical questionnaire, and 6 behavioral
tests: digit-span, symbol-digit substitution, simple reaction time, the ability
to switch between tasks, vocabulary, and the One Hole Test. Multivariate
regression techniques were used to evaluate dose-effects controlling for the
effects of age, race, gender and alcohol consumption. A dose-effect was
considered statistically significant below a p value of 0.05. Significant
urinary Hg dose-effects were found for poor mental concentration, emotional
lability, somatosensory irritation, and mood scores. Individual tests
evaluating cognitive and motor function changed in the expected directions but
were not significantly associated with urinary Hg. However, the pooled sum of
rank scores for combinations of tests within domains were significantly
associated with urinary Hg, providing evidence of subtle preclinical changes in
behavior associated with Hg exposure. Coproporphyrin, one of three urinary
porphyrins altered by mercury exposure, was significantly associated with
deficits in digit span and simple reaction time.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250
WORDS)

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 7760775 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

http://tinyurl.com/2q4ak
   
euroendocrinol Lett. 2002 Oct-Dec;23(5-6):459-82.     Related Articles, Links
   

Removal of dental amalgam and other metal alloys supported by antioxidant
therapy alleviates symptoms and improves quality of life in patients with
amalgam-associated ill health.

Lindh U, Hudecek R, Danersund A, Eriksson S, Lindvall A.

Department of Oncology, Radiology and Clinical Immunology, Rudbeck Laboratory,
SE-751 85 Uppsala, Sweden. Ulf.Lindh@bms.uu.se

OBJECTIVES: The purpose of this study was to evaluate treatment of patients
suffering from chronic ill health with a multitude of symptoms associated with
metal exposure from dental amalgam and other metal alloys. SETTING AND DESIGN:
We included 796 patients in a retrospective study using a questionnaire about
symptom changes, changes in quality of life as a consequence of treatment and
assessment of care taking. METHODS: Treatment of the patients by removal of
offending dental metals and concomitant antioxidant therapy was implemented
according to the Uppsala model based on a close co-operation between physicians
and dentists. RESULTS: More than 70% of the responders, remaining after
exclusion of those who had not begun or completed removal, reported substantial
recovery and increased quality of life. Comparison with similar studies showed
accordance of the main results. Plasma concentrations of mercury before and
after treatment supported the metal exposure to be causative for the ill
health. MAIN FINDINGS: Treatment according to the Uppsala model proved to be
adequate for more than 70% of the patients. Patients with a high probability to
respond successfully to current therapy might be detected by symptom profiles
before treatment. CONCLUSIONS: The hypothesis that metal exposure from dental
amalgam can cause ill health in a susceptible part of the exposed population
was supported. Further research is warranted to develop laboratory tests to
support identification of the group of patients responding to current therapy
as well as to find out causes of problems in the group with no or negative
results.

PMID: 12500173 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

http://tinyurl.com/yqwle

1: Aust Dent J. 2000 Dec;45(4):224-34.     Related Articles, Links

Comment in:
Aust Dent J. 2001 Mar;46(1):60-1.
Dental amalgam and mercury in dentistry.

Spencer AJ.

Dental School, University of Adelaide.

Mercury in dentistry has re-emerged as a contentious issue in public health,
predominantly because so many people are inadvertently exposed to mercury in
order to obtain the benefits of dental amalgam fillings, and the risks remain
difficult to interpret. This commentary aims to examine the issues involved in
public policy assessment of the continued use of dental amalgam in dentistry.
More than 30 per cent of Australian adults are concerned about mercury from
dental amalgam fillings but only a small percentage report having their amalgam
fillings removed. The placement of dental fillings nearly halved between 1983
and 1997, but many millions of dental amalgam fillings exist in the Australian
community. These fillings release mercury (mercury vapour or inorganic ions) at
a low level (about 2-5 micrograms/day in an adult). Evidence on the health
effect of dental amalgams comes from studies of the association between their
presence and signs or symptoms of adverse effects or health changes after
removal of dental amalgam fillings. More formal risk assessment studies focus
on occupational exposure to mercury and health effects. Numerous methodological
issues make their interpretation difficult but new research will continue to
challenge policymakers. Policy will also reflect prudent and cautious
approaches, encouraging minimization of exposure to mercury in potentially more
sensitive population groups. Wider environmental concerns and decreasing
tolerance of exposure to other mercury compounds (for example, methylmercury in
seafoods) will ensure the use of mercury in dentistry remains an issue,
necessitating dentists keep their patients informed of health risks and respect
their choices.

Publication Types:
Review
Review, Tutorial
PMID: 11225523 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]    

http://tinyurl.com/3f48x
   
1: FASEB J. 1998 Aug;12(11):971-80.     Related Articles, Links    
 
Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to dental amalgam Hg(o): new distinctions
between recent exposure and Hg body burden.

Echeverria D, Aposhian HV, Woods JS, Heyer NJ, Aposhian MM, Bittner AC Jr,
Mahurin RK, Cianciola M.

Battelle Centers for Public Health Research and Evaluation, Seattle, Washington
98105, USA.

Potential toxicity from exposure to mercury vapor (Hg(o)) from dental amalgam
fillings is the subject of current public health debate in many countries. We
evaluated potential central nervous system (CNS) toxicity associated with
handling Hg-containing amalgam materials among dental personnel with very low
levels of Hg(o) exposure (i.e., urinary Hg <4 microg/l), applying a
neurobehavioral test battery to evaluate CNS functions in relation to both
recent exposure and Hg body burden. New distinctions between subtle preclinical
effects on symptoms, mood, motor function, and cognition were found associated
with Hg body burden as compared with those associated with recent exposure. The
pattern of results, comparable to findings previously reported among subjects
with urinary Hg >50 microg/l, presents convincing new evidence of adverse
behavioral effects associated with low Hg(o) exposures within the range of that
received by the general population.

PMID: 9707169 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Rich.@. - 25 Mar 2004 00:35 GMT
>>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>>From: "Peter Moran" moringa@gil.com.au
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Influence of amalgam fillings on Hg levels and total antioxidant activity in
>plasma of healthy donors.

<Snip>

This study does NOT indicate that amalgams cause increase morbidity.

>: Bull Group Int Rech Sci Stomatol Odontol. 2000 May-Dec;42(2-3):88-93.
>Related Articles, Links    
>
>Salivary mercury levels in healthy donors with and without amalgam fillings.

<Snip>

Ditto for this study.


>Release of mercury from dental amalgam and its influence on salivary
>antioxidant activity.

Ditto again.


>Dental amalgam fillings and the amount of organic mercury in human saliva.

<snip>

Ditto. <yawn>


>Inorganic mercury and methylmercury in placentas of Swedish women.

Ditto.

>Mercury exposure and early effects: an overview.

<snip>

Ditto.

>Dental amalgam as one of the risk factors in autoimmune diseases.

This study only suggests a possible link with mercury amalgams. Hardly
conclusive.
>  
>Behavioral effects of low-level exposure to elemental Hg among dentists.

<snip>

This study suggests only subtle changes.


>Removal of dental amalgam and other metal alloys supported by antioxidant
>therapy alleviates symptoms and improves quality of life in patients with
>amalgam-associated ill health.

<snip>

Terrible study with no controls.

<snip>

As usual Jan posts studies that do NOT indicate that mercury amalgams
cause increase morbidity. And her own case study belies the assertion
that amalgams cause disease.

Aloha,

Rich
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The best defense to logic is ignorance
Happy Oyster - 25 Mar 2004 01:10 GMT
>> There is a key error in all those studies : They do not have enough
>> material for comparison. If more than 90 percent of the population are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>and number of amalgam surfaces, or daily mercury excretion.  This has been
>done and there is none.

This is not enough. The symptoms are only measurable via statistics.
The reason : One cannot make a DEFINITIVE correlation between cause
and consequence FOR A SINGLE PERSON. The coffee study shows some shift
to more problem with joins as consequence of "more coffee". But for a
single person ??? No chance.

If you want to make a study with 20.000 probands, you need 200.000
probands FIRST, out of which you take those with no amalgam fillings.

Then you must be sure that the 20.000 will in the next 20 years will
not have amalgam fillings. How can one do that ? How large must the
number be to still have 20.000 left at the end of the study, who still
have no amalgam fillings ?

>Here is an example of such a study ---
>Environ Health Perspect 2003 May;111(5):719-23

[...]

550 is not enough probands. The measurements made do NOT reflect the
REAL amount of mercury in each proband. Only tissues analyses can give
such figures. Chelation tests are rather worthless.

Next, if one is well, how can THIS FACT be correlated with the dental
amalgam ? Many symptoms can have thousands of other causes as well.
And here lies the problem for a person who really is poisoned : How
can this very person PROVE the amalgam fillings being the caus ? Fact
is : one cannot...

[coffee-study in scandinavia]
>> BUT, this still is no proof, as we need a study, lasting about 20
>> years with persons who never had and in these 20 years never will have
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Or you you can just try and show if the presence of amalgams has any
>correlation with poor health, coffee or no.

That will not work. We have many symptoms, like dramatically rising
allergy rate (about 1/3 of our population is allergic) or dramatic
rise in opthalmological problems (like shortsightedness) or pain (like
headache).

If we want to make a test with coffee and have 2 choices
- with amalgam
- without amalgam,

then we need about 20.000 persons without amalgam... Again we are at
very large numbers...

>Here is the closest we have to a prospective study looking at a wide variety
>of symptoms, mortality and blood tests. ---
>Acta Odontol Scand 1999 Jun;57(3):168-74
[...]
>...and we conclude that there is no association between
>disease and S-Hg on a population basis in middle-aged and older women.
>PMID: 10480284, UI: 99408161

As far as I can see, there was no comparison with a group of people
who NEVER had ANY amalgam fillings.  

>Lucchini R, Cortesi I, Facco P, Benedetti L, Camerino D, Carta P, Urbano ML,
>Zaccheo A, Alessio L.
>Cattedra di Medicina del Lavoro, Universita di Brescia, P.le Spedali Civili
>1, 25125 Brescia.
[...]
>CONCLUSIONS: In
>conclusion, this study supports the finding of early alterations of motor
>function and neuroendocrine secretion at very low exposure levels of
>inorganic Hg, below the current ACGIH BEI and below the most recent exposure
>levels reported in the literature.

Here, again, we have lots of measurements, but these figures do not
describe a "state of health".

In the meantime the situations worsens as there are so many chemical
in their air, in beverages and in food, that it is hard to find all
the correllations between a poison, groups of poisons and the
consequences. What if one poison is relatively harmless, but only if
another poison is absent ?

In one study fish was mentioned. Fish is a good food with many
valuable ingredients. But what if that fish is contaminated ?

One of the big problems with fish (as an example) is the statistics
the recommendations base upon. In my article about fish I wrote about
that. This article contains some data about fish, etc :

  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_fish.htm

Here is a study about dentists office personnell :

  http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amaneuro.htm

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Jan - 25 Mar 2004 03:19 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 108 lines]
>
>Aribert Deckers

AMAZING,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I already posted it!!!!!

Jan
Brook - 23 Mar 2004 16:05 GMT
> Hello, I live in Melbourne, Australia and was wondering if anyone
> could suggest the best place to go for blood test's to determine
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tia

Here is a trick:

close off the back of your mouth like you would when gargling. Don't let
any air that has been in your mouth enter your lungs. See if after keeping
this up for a couple of days (do it while you're asleep too) whether you
feel any different. It should stop the vapours going directly to your
brain.

You need to be very careful about selecting a dentist to perform removal,
and the type of filling material to replace it with. If a dentist does not
perform the procedure correctly, it will dump a huge amount of mercury
directly into your system.

Move your computer monitor and box farther away from you if they're close.
Electromagnetic fields increase the quantity of mercury vapour release
from fillings.

You should also investigate that mercury isn't your only problem.
Allergies to milk and gluten (mainly wheat) tend to be related conditions.

Nutritional deficiencies are likely. Especially with zinc and selenium.
Look into this too. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids would be good to take.
Beware of the many dud retail vitamin C supplements available for sale
which contain potentially carcinogenic artificial-sweateners and no
bioflavonoids.

I don't know whether you'll have much luck with a blood test. Finding a
doctor who won't laugh at you would be the first problem. The quantity of
mercury in the blood doesn't automatically represent the quantity in
tissues either. A competent natropath with extensive knowledge in the
field may be the best place to start.
Hawki63 - 23 Mar 2004 18:47 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: Brook no@s.pam
>Date: 3/23/2004 7:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <40605242.FD822926@s.pam>

>Here is a trick:
>
>close off the back of your mouth like you would when gargling. Don't let
>any air that has been in your mouth

>enter your lungs. See if after keeping
>this up for a couple of days (do it while you're asleep too) whether you
>feel any different. It should stop the vapours going directly to your
>brain.

hoping this is a joke...

the OP would also be quite dead from respiratory arrest...oh well...better than
inhaling mercury vapors I suppose..

"do it while you're asleep?"

yikes

hawki.....
Happy Oyster - 24 Mar 2004 16:10 GMT
>A competent natropath with extensive knowledge in the
>field may be the best place to start.

That is nonsense. The naturopaths have no knowledge about these
matters. To really make a valid diagnose, SOLID mediclal knowledge is
essential. Naturopaths do not have this knowledge, and so cannot make
diagnoses.

Treatment without valid diagnoses must be considered as attempted
murder.

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Jan - 24 Mar 2004 17:36 GMT
>From: Happy Oyster

>Treatment without valid diagnoses must be considered as attempted
>murder.

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Happy Oyster - 26 Mar 2004 23:09 GMT
>>From: Happy Oyster
>
>>Treatment without valid diagnoses must be considered as attempted
>>murder.

>Misdiagnosis Home

And advertizing for Hulda Clark (like Jan Drew does) also must be
considered attempted murder.

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Jan - 27 Mar 2004 06:19 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>>Misdiagnosis Home

Happy snipped the URL.

>And advertizing for Hulda Clark (like Jan Drew does) also must be
>considered attempted murder.

I advertise for no one, period.

There is no such thing as a nathuropathymafia.

You are obsessed and wacked out.

Get help.

Jan
Happy Oyster - 28 Mar 2004 20:13 GMT
>>And advertizing for Hulda Clark (like Jan Drew does) also must be
>>considered attempted murder.
>
>I advertise for no one, period.

That again is a typical lie by Jan Drew.

Jan Drew dumps thousands of postings into the net. Jan Drew claims :
"It helps" and "It works". All that is typical advertizing.

Jan Drew is no dentist. Jan Drew is an advertizing agency for the
naturopath mafia and by no means a person who can be believed. Jan
Drew abuses honorable scientists like Mr. Vimy, Mr. Lorscheider, etc
for his insane advertizing for insane junk.

More about Jan Drew, the shame of the human race :

  http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

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Jan - 28 Mar 2004 21:10 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>That again is a typical lie by Jan Drew.

No, in fact it is the truth.

>Jan Drew dumps thousands of postings into the net.

Umm, that would be a guess.

Jan Drew claims :
>"It helps" and "It works". All that is typical advertizing.

Umm, no it is not, it is called sharing.

If it worked for me, I'll share it.

>Jan Drew is no dentist

That is correct, and never claimed to be.

>naturopath mafia

There is no such thing.

<snip repeating of the repeated.>

Jan
Happy Oyster - 29 Mar 2004 00:43 GMT
> Jan Drew claims :
>>"It helps" and "It works". All that is typical advertizing.
>>
>Umm, no it is not, it is called sharing.
>
>If it worked for me, I'll share it.

That is a key lie of Jan Drew.

Claims, nothing but claims by Jan Drew. ALL of Jan Drew's "proofs" are
Jan Drews own claims and Jan Drew's own lies. Jan Drew is an insane
notorious liar and forger.

Jan Drew is a danger for unknowing persons and should be put into
jail. As soon as possible. And as long as possible.

The FAQ about Jan Drew :

  http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

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Jan - 29 Mar 2004 01:14 GMT
>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Jan Drew claims :
>>>"It helps" and "It works". All that is typical advertizing.

Umm, no it is not, it is called sharing.

If it worked for me, I'll share it.

I have helped others and will continue.

Jan
Happy Oyster - 30 Mar 2004 16:46 GMT
>>Subject: Re: Blood tests for mercury etc..
>>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>>
>Umm, no it is not, it is called sharing.

That is an insane lie. Jan Drew advertizes in large scale for quackery
and charlatanism.

>If it worked for me, I'll share it.

That is one of the key lies by Jan Drew.

>I have helped others and will continue.
>
>Jan

That's is one of the the key lies by Jan Drew.

Jan Drew is a danger for unknowing persons and should be put into
jail. As soon as possible. And as long as possible.

The FAQ about Jan Drew :

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