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Jan Drew - 24 Jul 2009 01:13 GMT
http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html

http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-merrick
Happy Oyster - 24 Jul 2009 01:40 GMT
>http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
>http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-merrick

Aha, Jan Drew tries to cover up what she did. So we use this as a reminder to
analyse her way of warfare.

>On Jul 19, 10:23?pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...@ariplex.com> wrote:
>> >> > Nothing I have posted are false medical claims.
>>
>> >> That is quite debatable. Anything from Hulda, NaturalNews, etc.
>>
>> >*In your opinion*.

If Janet Mae Stidd thinks she can lure us into her usual tricks, she is
mistaken...

FAQ about JAN DREW, the Net stalker and agent for the naturopathic mafia
========================================================================

                          Part V
                          ======

1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he?
2. The history of Jan Drew
3. Where is Jan Drew?
4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...?
5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana
6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd

1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he?
========================================

Yesterday, on July 15th., 2009, Jan Drew used this email address:

  "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>

today, a Jan Drew shows up and makes the very same mess as the Jan Drew before.

The question is: Is this new Jan Drew the very same as the old one?

Have a look at this header of a posting by the old Jan Drew:

<quote>
Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>
From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>
*******************************************

Newsgroups:
alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry
References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2.10481@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
<4a56c915$1@news.x-privat.org>
<5887315b-4039-4968-96b4-690ef356cdf7@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
<1n5f55h7u4c42bi46dd3edip1jill4llqg@4ax.com>
<c5f6d3c6-9b06-41d2-a108-fd1f1db1c3c7@m18g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
<4a57f60d@news.x-privat.org>
<e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e-aa43-144adc5c81d6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
<4a5949b8@news.x-privat.org>
<c3fb2c8b-309c-476f-85e1-105728115430@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>
<%tR6m.13435$j84.75@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>
<598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
In-Reply-To: <598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Turning every which way
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.89.125
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00:08:13 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:13 EDT
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 -0400
misc.health.alternative:625434 misc.kids.health:185126
alt.support.breast-implant:159698 sci.med.dentistry:311488

> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
</quote>

The old Jan Drew posts from the IP

X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009

The new Jan Drew with the email address

  Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>

posts from this IP:

Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194;

See this piece of proof:

<quote>
From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>
*************************************

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Subject: Re: TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: <b2ae85b9-c00d-4ade-8e32-4baa930a2bff@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
References: <1934e371-d192-4b1e-88be-e8db77045bb3@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.93.194
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247775941 27518 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 20:25:41
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194;
*************************************************************************

    posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1)
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Oh, dear Mark is shouting again.  You should be careful.  Remember you
will be 64 in November of this year.
Regardless of all your antics to prove otherwise.  The fact is you
posted your birthday.

On Jul 15, 11:27 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For years Jan has felt it is her right to report anyone she wishes to
> their ISP or email provider.
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> I suggest you read your terms of service
> At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com

You are not fooling me, Mark S Probert.  I happen to know you reported
me several days ago.
And, what does Torah say about turnabout is fair play?
</quote>

So we have:

  From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>
  Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)

but about an hour later, with the same email address another IP shows up:

  From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>
  Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT)

See this piece of proof:

<quote>
From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>
**********************************************

Newsgroups:
alt.support.attn-deficit,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Subject: Re: ADHD Drugs Proven Absolutely Useless for Children - Plus, They
    Stunt Growth
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
**********************************************

Organization: http://groups.google.com
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    <a6427afd-254c-44e3-9bd9-4d96bce8881a@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
    <a9086444-5e6e-4267-89be-6ee0f5cf2cb8@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.112.11
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247780472 9697 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11;
***********************************************************************
    posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP

User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 6.0;
    Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
    3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/3.1.1.5 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.0
    spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com[400C700B] (Prism/1.2.1)

On Jul 12, 7:01 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:48 am, bosco62a <bosco...@yahoo.com> wrote:
</quote>

This is the IP:

  Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11;

So we see that

 Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>

also uses this IP from AOL:

<quote>
IP Information for 64.12.112.11

IP Location:  United States Reston America Online Inc
Resolve Host: spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com
IP Address: 64.12.112.11      
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
OrgName:    America Online, Inc. 
OrgID:      AMERIC-158
Address:    10600 Infantry Ridge Road
City:       Manassas
StateProv:  VA
PostalCode: 20109
Country:    US
</quote>

AOL is the very same provider which Jan Drew #1 used.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

2. The history of Jan Drew
==========================

This new Jan Drew is #3 as Jan Drew #1 was the one with the AOL account.

#1.   jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929)
#2.   "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>
#3.   Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com>

I looked at the profiles of Jan Drew #1 and Jan Drew #2:

http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e
8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg


That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL.

jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929)

<quote> 
Posting-Aktivität

      Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai  Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
1999     -    -  191   99   54  223  289  260  203  359  297  192
2000   109  276  414  249  461  628  384  284  191   60  416  626
2001   534  152  572  297  677  430  715  621  281  278  392  599
2002   788  481  343  390  508  718  666  643  655  874  561  954
2003   621  866  932  646  629  746  539  593  595  500  521  569
2004   459  692  958  716  749  524  694 1045  784 1007 1151  977
2005   480 1143  206    -    -    -    -    5    -    -    -    2 
2006     3    7   10  157    6   13   21    3   21   43    5   24
2007    74   37    -    5    -    5    2    -    1    -    -    -
2008     9    -    -    -   21    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
</quote>

This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>

http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w
hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA

 
<quote>
Posting-Aktivität

     Jan.  Feb.  Mrz.  Apr.   Mai  Jun.  Jul.  Aug.  Sep. Okt.  Nov.  Dez.
  - ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....
2006    -   157  2293  1921  1837  2092  2273  1865  1797  2453  1600  1042  
2007  475   357   406   523   561   490   370   287   326   435   798   552
2008  942  1346   892  1006   579  1076   742   877   451   555   383   424
2009  909   691   585   345   861   835   423

</quote>

As you can see: The old account at AOL still is used, but less often.

Here you can see the activities of Jan Drew #3:

http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=pps3lhMAAABsyTkDyyCDPfvL_gVgZJy1
WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww


------------------------------------------------------------------------

3. Where is Jan Drew?
=====================

In an old posting I found the word "Bloomington", which made me curious. So I
tried to find more about it.

This I now found with the word "bloomington":

http://www.theangelconnection.net/school9.html

<quote>
2433)   Bill Drew, Bloomington, Indiana
2434)   Jan Drew, Bloomington, Indiana
</quote>

I also found this:

<quote>
LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Drew

Drew, Jan L, 63, Cheyenne, WY.
Drew, Jana Brittain, 45, Wilmington, NC.
Drew, Janelle L, 36, Sublette, IL.
Drew, Janet B, 70, Bloomington, IN ...
***************************************
www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-drew.html

LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Harper
Harper, Jan L, 84, Loveland, CO. Harper, Jan Drew, 53, Fairview, NC ...
Harper, Jan E, 54, Cincinnati, OH. Harper, Jan, Bloomington, IN ...
www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-harper.html
</quote>

Well, Bloomington turns out to be a town in Indiana.

The WHOIS for the IP of Jan Drew #2 (which actually is Jan Drew #3)

gives for (see above!)

  nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009

this result:

<quote>
IP Information for 70.239.89.125
IP Location:  United States Bloomington AT&T Internet Services
**************************************************************

Resolve Host: adsl-70-239-89-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net
*********************************************************
IP Address: 70.239.89.125      
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
OrgName:    AT&T Internet Services 
OrgID:      SIS-80
Address:    2701 N. Central Expwy # 2205.15
City:       Richardson
StateProv:  TX
PostalCode: 75080
Country:    US
NetRange:   70.224.0.0 - 70.239.255.255 
CIDR:       70.224.0.0/12 
NetName:    SBCIS-SIS80
NetHandle:  NET-70-224-0-0-1
Parent:     NET-70-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.AMERITECH.NET
NameServer: NS2.AMERITECH.NET
Comment:    
RegDate:    2005-03-22
Updated:    2007-05-25
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE6-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse - Southwestern Bell Internet 
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-800-648-1626
</quote>

Bloomington, Indiana.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...?
=========================================

Searching with

  Jan Drew Blomington

one hit is this:

<quote>
Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in
misc.health.alternative

Message from discussion Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut
up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award

View parsed - Show only message text

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From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
******************************************

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.support.breast-implant
References:
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<e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To:
<e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re:
Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE
EN TEA  Award
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X-Trace: nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com 1215143201 ST000 70.239.91.212 (Thu, 03 Jul 2008
23:46:41 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:46:08 -0400

You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote:

Jan:

Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me
that are not truthful in nature.

I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.

I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are
laughing at you.

Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
amongst those that are "in the know."

I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again, you would
appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your toxic
mouth.

Leave my name out of your discussions.  Lose my name from your
vocabulary.

Got it?  I hope so.

And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part
of my name.

Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
reading.

"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:5fb276c9-4492-466d-8f55-fbc7afb4a5fb@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> Jan:

Yes, Debbee?

OrgName:    Netscape Communications Corp.
OrgID:      NSCP
Address:    501 E. Middlefield
City:       Mountain View
StateProv:  CA
PostalCode: 94043
Country:    US

NetRange:   207.200.64.0 - 207.200.127.255
CIDR:       207.200.64.0/18
NetName:    NETSCAPE-CIDR
NetHandle:  NET-207-200-64-0-1
Parent:     NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.NETSCAPE.COM
NameServer: NS2.NETSCAPE.COM
Comment:    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate:    1996-09-06
Updated:    2001-03-28

RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName:   America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone:  +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail:  doma...@aol.net

> Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"

Oh, really?

*would appear*, why don't you just speak up?

> it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature.

I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee
*****************************************************************************
Adams.
******

> I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.

NO, you did not.  In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS,
and used the name Annie, then signed it B.

> I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
> have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Got it?  I hope so.
> And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name.

lol.  I thought you said you were not Annie?

> Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading.

lol.  Poor Debbee:

*I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
Get help.

Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post.
And......................
Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. Got
that?

Debbee A Adams do NOT email me again using different names, and a bit of history

From Dbeesti...@aol.com Sat Jun 21 01:21:49 2008
X-Apparently-To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net via 209.191.85.222; Sat, 21 Jun 2008
01:21:56 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9]
Return-Path: <dbeesti...@aol.com>
Authentication-Results: mta125.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com from=aol.com;
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June 21, 2008

This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and
libeling me any further than you have.  I'm tired of you posting about
untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names.

I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people connected
to Quackwatch.  All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of yourself than
you already have.  Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of the emails I sent.
The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and I'm no longer on
Wireless.  I am on dial-up.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to
California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't trust
me.    This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm sorry that
you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but you have
libelled me for the last time.   It will not happen again.  I am no longer
posting there and there is no further need to discuss me.

Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is.   Calling someone a liar just
because you don't happen to believe them, is libel.

And there are two J. Drew's.  It was even pointed out by another poster in the
group.

Thank you.

Deborah Annie  Adams
--------------------------------------------

OOPs, note is is now J. Drew and not Jan Drew's

Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about Debbee

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a3...

Oct 27, 2007

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000
Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA

You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil behavior
one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser.
Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this
message.

YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE SLIGHTEST
MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING
FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE FIT.

On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html
> > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her foundation, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases.  I also called the DRE.  Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do you, Myrl Jeffcoat.   Have you done anything Myrl  or Ilena that would violate the code  ethics of the licenses you have??  I'm kind of curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth attached to it.  I have read where  fans of celebrities have started websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed because the fan was using a name other than their own  in the web address, and without permission.

------------------------------------

Follow that thread.  You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts.

However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26ada...

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA

DEBBEE SAID:  "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us work for a
living.  Some of us have real lives."

>From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde:

Debbee A Adams (54)
San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA
http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg

I am very happily RETIRED from working.
But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time. You
wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so you could
complain about me, were you??????  Chortle, chortle,
chortle.

[Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so hard for a
living) than to search the internet looking for some kind of 'dirt' on people.
The best she could do with me was find a
reference to a store I previously owned.]

Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE?
Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all you do to
pay the rent.

>From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a

lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul Revere and
the Raiders.  Alas it appears was the other way around. Funny how she denied any
knowledge of it however.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf...

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA

On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I know nothing of what you are speaking about.
> I'm not the editor of any publication.
> I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA
> There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube.
> Deb Adams is not even my real name.

So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple of days,
to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your
name???

---------------------------------------
On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do for a living, and *where* I live.  Nor is *your business* what I am even
> doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any reason.  Got it?  Good.  Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine.

Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our
business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she
lives.  Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.

What a piece of work you are Debbee!

I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to do your
business, and then slither right back under again, once you've done your
reptilian handiwork!

You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite.

"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:572e071b-2610-4d60-b4e5-9f45ceae2b93@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

> Jan Drew wrote:

>> lol.  Poor Debbee:

>> *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
>> Get help.

>> Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And......................
>> Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee.
>> Got that?

> It would appear that you need professional help in dealing with your abusive behavior.
> Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute
> right to abuse others.  Nor does it give you any special privileges to post lies about people you do not even know.

> If you do not know where to turn for professional help; I suggest contacting your doctor and asking for referrals.
> You are the one that needs help, not me.

> I think it would be in your best interest to remove the post you just made.

> Thank you.

It DOES appear, not *would* that YOU Deborah Annie Adams need professional help.
You have NEVER proven a single one of your false accusations.  Nor--have you
proven you KNOW
there are two Jan Drew's posting on any of the same groups *I* Jan Drew post on.

There has been no abusive behavior towards you for me.
Your words:

* Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not

give you the absolute
right to abuse others.*

And, just who would that be?  Where did that come from?
It DOES appear, you do not know what you are posting about

So much for libel.
Now, either put up or shut up!

Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2009 Google
</quote>

Jan Drew in another case of Net stalking, as in unknown other cases before and
later.

What did Jan Drew write?:

<quote>
I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee
*****************************************************************************
Adams.
******
</quote>

That is fine because I did not invent any stories about Jan Drew. I only
followed this figure and archived material...

<quote>
Follow that thread.  You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
</quote>

Jan Drew does not seem to know what a boomerang is...

------------------------------------------------------------------------

5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana
===================================

Jan Drew claims to have owned a children day care center. But one of the many
things which Jan Drew refused to ever prove was this. Jan Drew even refused to
prove that he/she is female.

Well, looking for Jan Drew Bloomington reveiled many details.

Like this one:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/janet-drew/9/302/551
<quote>
Janet Drew

Owner, rtired
Bloomington, Indiana Area Research
Current
Owner at rtired
Connections

0 connections
Public Profile
</quote>

And this one:

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri
=L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj
AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24

<quote>
Janet Drew
Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm
More from 'Janet Drew'  God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain.
My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him.
*************************
I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife
Joan took him to their
home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away.
He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him.
*****************************************************

Rest in peace, Leon.
</quote>

And this one:

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycity/united-states/indiana/bloomington/page/3
<quote>
Complaints in Bloomington, Indiana
==================================

Intelius
Posted: 2008-05-28 by Janet      [send email]

Credit card not credited
Complaint Rating:
Talked with Carmen. All charges were to be credited. Conformation # 12056098.

$4.95 of 5-14-08 has not been credited. Do so immediately.

Janet Drew
Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com...
***************************
</quote>

KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
*****************

<quote>
Janet Drew
Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com...
</quote>

In may 2008 Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana, used the email address

  jdrew63929@aol.com

That is exactly the very same as Jan Drew #1 used:

http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e
8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg


That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL.

  jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd
=========================================

Jan Drew posts as "Jan Drew", but is that really her name? How about Janet or
Janice?

Remember of of the search engine hits above?

<quote>
My daughter Jacque Nelson...
</quote>

Search engines love that... ;O)

And they dig out precious little details ... like this:

http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm

<quote>
318 3 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]{ M } Father:
--- | 5461 Charles Thomas Stidd (DOB: 12/21/1881) [DOD: 00/00/1957] Mother: 311
| 5460 Lorene Sluss (DOB: 03/16/1885) [DOD: 00/00/1939] Spouse/SO: --- | 16325
Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916)
SO's father: --- | 16336 Clarence E. Selzer (DOB: abt. 00/00/1890) [DOD:
12/21/1979]
SO's mother: --- | 16337 Erslie Woelflin
Children
319 | 16326 Dr. Benton Maurice Stidd (DOB: 06/30/1936)
324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939)
**********************************************
327 | 16335 Dr. Raymond Edward Stidd (DOB: 01/31/1938)

Born: Monroe Cty., IN

Documentation (birth): + Index to Monroe County, Indiana Birth Records 1882-1920
(re: Book H-8, p 297). Hays shows the year as 1914.

Died: Ellettsville, Richland Twp., Monroe Cty., IN

Buried: Valhalla Memory Gardens, Bloomington, Bloomington Twp., Monroe Cty., IN

Obituary: Benjamin David Stidd, 84
May 18, 1916 - Feb. 6, 2001
ELLETTSVIlLE - Benjamin David Stidd, age 84, of Ellettsville, died Tuesday at
his residence.
He was born May 18, 1916, in Monroe County, the son of Charles and Lorena
(Sluss) Stidd. He was a 1934 graduate of Bloomington High School, and was a
retired contractor and well-known farmer residing in the Bean Blossom bottom
area of Monroe County most of his life. He was active in the Stinesville Parent
Teachers Association and was its president from 1954 to 1956. During World War
II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the
Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and
finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of
military facilities. He was a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and
served in several
capacities as deacon and elder. He was married to Alma Mae Selzer of Bloomington
in 1934, and she remains. Other survivors include three children, Dr. Benton M.
Stidd of Liberty Hollow Road, a retired professor from Western Illinois
University, Dr. Raymond E. Stidd of Nashville, a retired Columbus podiatrist,
and a daughter, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care
**************************************************************************
Center;
*******
three sisters, Martha Collins and Velma Hall of Bloomington and Jenny Name of
Ellettsville; 11 grandchildren and 17 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in
death by three brothers, Farwell Stidd, Leon Stidd and Lester Stidd, and two
sisters, Louise Richardson and Freda Bain.
Funeral service will be 1 p.m. Friday at Day Mortuary Chapel. Burial will be at
Valhalla Memory Gardens Mausoleum. Friends may call at Day Mortuary from 5-8
p.m. on Thursday. Friends who wish may make memorial
contributions to the scholarship fund of the Stinesville Alumni
Association.

Addresses: Ellettsville, RichlandTwp., Monroe Cty., IN

Military Service: During World War II, he was involved in the construction of
Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a
similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane
Naval Station in construction of military facilities.

Employment/Professions: Farmer

Education: Bloomington High School (Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN) *High School*
1934

Religion: Seventh-day Adventists
********************************

Documents:Obituary
Herald-Times (Bloomington, IN), 2/7/2001

Notes: From obituary.

THD 22124
</quote>

and this:

http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm

<quote>
324 4 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) { F }
***************************************************
Father: 318 | 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]
Mother: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916)

Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
**********************************************************

SO's father: --- | 16330 Don Nelson
SO's mother: --- | 16331 Anna Bell Jones

Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935)
***********************************************************
SO's father: --- | 16333 James F. Drew

SO's mother: --- | 16334 Grace Small
Children
325 | 16767 Jeffery Lynn Nelson (DOB: 11/17/1958)
326 | 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960)
************************************************

Addresses: Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN As of: 02/07/2001

Notes: From the Stidd/Sluss Family record and her father's obituary. +From Tommy
Hays' notes.

THD 114382
</quote>

All the pieces fit together.

First, marriage with

<quote>
Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
</quote>

which makes the children have the family name Nelson.

The second marriage with

<quote>
Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935)
***********************************************************
</quote>

makes Janet Mae Nelson, nee Stidd, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of
Happy Day Care Center.

The details of that:

http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html

<quote>
James William "Bill" Drew
**************************
M, #I4836, Born: [private]
Father:: James Franklin Drew, Born: 19 January 1916
Mother:: Grace Lorraine Small, Born: 29 January 1917, Died: 19 January 1995
Birth: 28 March 1935 Washington, Daviess County, Indiana
Family:

Marriage: 1 : Peggy Ann Ramage Married: 24 March 1954, Born: [private]
  Mary Beth Drew, Born: 23 May 1954, Died: 24 May 1954
  William Franklin Drew, Born: 21 August 1957, Died: 30 April 1958
+ Cheryl Ann Drew, Born: [private]
  James David Drew, Born: [private]
  Susan Elaine "Susie" Drew, Born: [private]

Marriage: 2 : Janet Mae Stidd Married: 25 November 1970, Born: [private]
*******************************************************
Last Updated: 05 March 2008
</quote>

http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html#I4846
<quote>
Janet Mae Stidd
***************
F, #I4846, Born: [private]
Father:: ?
Mother:: ?
Birth: 16 March 1938
Family:

Marriage: 1 : James William "Bill" Drew Married: 25 November 1970, Born:
******************************************************************
[private]
Last Updated: 14 May 2001
</quote>

One more detail:

http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&searchform=name
<quote>
Janet M Drew
************
View Details
       70      Bloomington, IN (3)
************************************
Spencer, IN (1)
Lutz, FL (1)                    James Drew
J B Drew
Jan Drew
Bill J Drew
</quote>

"70" is her age, which matches with the other parts in the mosaic.

You remember the memorial?:

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj
AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24

<quote>
Janet Drew
Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm
More from 'Janet Drew'  God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain.
My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him.
*************************
I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife
Joan took him to their
home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away.
He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him.
*****************************************************

Rest in peace, Leon.
</quote>

Well, there is the counterpart:

http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm#16768
<quote>
326 5 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) { F }
***********************************************

Father: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
*******************************************************

Mother: 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939)
*****************************************************
</quote>

Through all the years since the beginning of the logs of

  jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929)

Jan Drew pestered the net:

jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929)

<quote> 
Posting-Aktivität

      Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai  Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
1999     -    -  191   99   54  223  289  260  203  359  297  192
2000   109  276  414  249  461  628  384  284  191   60  416  626
2001   534  152  572  297  677  430  715  621  281  278  392  599
2002   788  481  343  390  508  718  666  643  655  874  561  954
2003   621  866  932  646  629  746  539  593  595  500  521  569
2004   459  692  958  716  749  524  694 1045  784 1007 1151  977
2005   480 1143  206    -    -    -    -    5    -    -    -    2 
2006     3    7   10  157    6   13   21    3   21   43    5   24
2007    74   37    -    5    -    5    2    -    1    -    -    -
2008     9    -    -    -   21    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
</quote>

This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net>

http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w
hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA

 
<quote>
Posting-Aktivität

     Jan.  Feb.  Mrz.  Apr.   Mai  Jun.  Jul.  Aug.  Sep. Okt.  Nov.  Dez.
  - ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....  ....
2006    -   157  2293  1921  1837  2092  2273  1865  1797  2453  1600  1042  
2007  475   357   406   523   561   490   370   287   326   435   798   552
2008  942  1346   892  1006   579  1076   742   877   451   555   383   424
2009  909   691   585   345   861   835   160
</quote>

Jan Drew gives medical advice, which, if followed, can lead to the death of your
children and of yourself.

Jan Drew lies, Jan Drew forges, Jan Drew seeds hatred, Jan Drew makes MASSIVE
advertising for the naturopathic mafia.

And: Jan Drew abuses the name of god.

TEN YEARS NOW.

And Jan Drew, despite all kind or tough pleas NOT to stalk people, continious
with here crimionakl behavior.

I think that TEN YEARS really is enough time that has been given to her top
stop. And now, there definitely is an end.

Janet Mae Stidd, married to Mr. Drew on 25th, november, 1970, living in
Bloomington, Indiana, do cease and desist your crimes!

In the matter of Jan Drew abusing the name of god another detail shows up: the

  Seventh Day Adventist Church
  301 E Matlock Rd
  Bloomington, IN
  (812) 332-5025

In its gone web-site the have some strong words concerning their being so very
special:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031223034424/bloomingtonsda.org/handbook.htm

<quote>
Home | Up | Feedback | Contents | Search

ACA Handbook Excerpts

Purpose

Aims & Objectives

Requirements for Admission

PURPOSE

In a state in which public schools offer excellent educational
opportunities at public expense, a private school should have a special reason
for its existence.  
Adventist Christian Academy , with the unique standards and
***********************************************************
character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs
*******************************************************
sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment.
*****************************************************************

Christian principles, as practiced by Seventh-day Adventists, have first place
in determining the policies of Adventist Christian Academy .

The following quotation defines the Seventh-day Adventist concept of Christian
education: &#8220;True education means more than the pursuit of a certain course
of study.  It means more than a preparation for the life that now is.  It has to
do with the whole being and with the whole period of existence possible to man.
It is the harmonious development of the physical, the mental, and the spiritual
powers.  It prepares the student for the joy of service in this world, and for
the higher joy of wider service in the world to come.&#8221; Education,  p. 13.

Seventh-day Adventists sincerely believe that Christ is coming literally to this
earth to claim His own, but before He comes, the gospel is to be taken into all
the world.  &#8220;With such an army of workers as our youth, rightly trained,
might furnish, how soon the message of a
crucified, risen, and soon-coming Savior might be carried to the whole
world.&#8221; Education,  p. 271.  Adventist Christian Academy begins the
training of its youth in this high responsibility.

Adventist Christian Academy offers grades K through 8 of formal education.
Our school provides a state-approved curriculum and is supervised and
accredited through the Education Department of the Indiana Conference of
Seventh-Day Adventists.

AIMS AND OBJECTIVES

&#8220;And Jesus increased in wisdom¼&#8221;

Skills and Knowledge  -- To teach the value and necessity of the mental habits
of application and concentration.  To provide the acquisition of common skills
and knowledge essential to scholastic progress.  To engender a love of learning
that will be carried throughout their life here in this world and into the world
to come.

&#8220;¼And Stature¼&#8221;

Health and Recreation -- To promote the study and practice of the
principles of health and temperance, in the belief that mental and spiritual
vigor are in a great degree dependent upon physical health, strength and
activity.  To guide students in making good choices regarding recreation and
leisure time.

&#8220;¼And in favor with God¼&#8221;

Relationship to God  -- To instill a knowledge of God and love for Him and for
Jesus Christ

who came into the world to be its Redeemer.  To establish belief and practice in
the essential relational experience of faith and prayer.  To develop respect and
reverence for the Bible as the divine Word of God, including the Ten
Commandments as the rule of guidance for a complete life.

Character -- To present the ideals of true culture and encourage an appreciation
of what is pure, true, noble, right and beautiful.  To develop an inward
fortitude against evil and a sense of personal
responsibility in the application of spiritual, social, moral and physical laws
that should govern individual conduct.

&#8220;¼And with man.&#8221; Luke 2:52

Home and Family -- To awaken an appreciation of home, where love is the
motivating power in the life of every member of the family.

Citizenship -- To inspire love of country, loyalty to country, and respect for
recognized authority.

Service -- To establish in the minds and hearts of the students the Christian
motive of service and concern for others as opposed to the incentive of selfish
rivalry.  To emphasize the value and dignity of labor in the development of
character and in carrying out the responsibilities of life.

REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMISSION

Adventist Christian Academy admits students of any race, color, or ethnic
origin, to all the rights, privileges, programs, and activities generally
accorded or made available to students.  In administration of its
educational policies it does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, or
ethnic origin.

Adventist Christian Academy is operated especially for the youth of the
Seventh-day Adventist faith. It is a privilege, not a right to attend A.C.A.
However, as space permits, a student who is not a member of the Seventh-day
Adventist church may be admitted. It is expected that all students will uphold
the standards of Adventist Christian Academy and will cheerfully endeavor to
live in harmony with the principles of the school.  Parents who, after
consultation with the teacher and the principal, find themselves in disagreement
with the practices or policies of the school may be asked to withdraw their
student.

It is recommended that students not be entered in school before they reach the
age of six years.  Parents of each Kindergarten student must present the
student&#8217;s birth certificate to the school by July 1st.

Students may be required to undergo testing before acceptance or during the
first month of the school year.  If satisfactory achievement scores are on file
at A.C.A., testing may be omitted.  The school reserves the right, after testing
an applicant and counseling with the parents, to change the grade placement to
one more suitable for the student.  The school may not be equipped or
sufficiently staffed to offer continuous remedial help to students with special
needs.

Applicants for admission must submit a standard application blank, properly
filled out, which will be presented to the A.C.A. Board for final approval.

New and returning students should have a G.P.A. of 2.0 (or equivalent) in order
to be considered for admission.  Students with a recent scholastic performance
below 2.0 will be subject to the Scholastic Probation Policy.  Deviation from
this standard may be done only at the discretion of the school board.

Scholastic Probation will be in effect the first nine weeks following
admittance. It will be required that the student improve their G.P.A. to a
current 2.0 or above within the following nine week period.  Continued
monitoring of the student&#8217;s G.P.A. will be evaluated every three weeks for
the next nine weeks.  Failure to meet this standard may result in dismissal.
Re-admittance during the next or subsequent school years will be evaluated on an
individual basis, subject to the previous
year&#8217;s performance.  Also, scholastic performance at any time during the
school year, which falls below 2.0 for any nine-week grading period, will result
in a Scholastic Probation as outlined above.

If at any time during the school year the A.C.A. faculty believes a student
needs professional evaluation, and/or testing for learning, behavioral or
attention disorders, it is the parents&#8217; responsibility to arrange for such
examination and make the results available to A.C.A. faculty in a timely manner
(as determined by the principal). If this requirement is not met, the student
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may be asked to withdraw from school.
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Send mail to webmaster@bloomingtonadventist.org with questions or comments about
this web site.
Last modified: December 18, 2003
</quote>

I do not know if Janet Mae Stidd, married Drew, is part of the "Seventh-day
Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana. But it seems that

<quote>
"the unique standards and
*******************************************************
character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs
*******************************************************
sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment.
*****************************************************************
</quote>

Perhaps the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana, could have
some influence on her. Unless she already

<quote>
may be asked to withdraw from school.
</quote>

You do know it: The bible is a book about war. It is full of blood shedding and
cruelty.

These are words by Jan Drew:

<quote>
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our
business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she
lives.  Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.

What a piece of work you are Debbee!
</quote>

Jan Drew, THAT "piece of work", has no problem with calling employers, whith
making complaints, etc,...

Janet Mae Stidd, "Jan Drew", attacks other persons' families. She never gives
pardon, she never apologizes, not even for the greatest lie or assault.

She has no mercy, she lets children die - consequence of the false advice she
gives.

To follow her medical claims can lead to the death of your children and of
yourself.

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Jan Drew - 24 Jul 2009 03:21 GMT
Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html

http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-mer...
Happy Oyster - 24 Jul 2009 07:31 GMT
>   Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
>http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-mer...

Oh, again a double post... Calls for double dosis...

        FAQ about Jan Drew's advertizing for quackery
        *********************************************

                      Part IV

June, 24th., 2004

                            ************************
>>Subject: Murderous "helpers"
>>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>He and Happy have a lot in comon.

That says Jan Drew.

Who is Jan Drew ? Jan Drew is a person who showed up in the net in 1999. Since
then he dumped trash, lies and insults and forgeries into the net. Day for day.
Thousands and thousands of postings filled with lies and hate, and hate and
lies. All for one sole reason : to advertize quackery and charlatanism.  

Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> collected some examples which show the character
of Jan Drew :

Message-ID: <40D38837.277810AA@sonic.net>

<quote>
Part 1:  Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:24:47 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030203003915.08900.00000405%40mb-mf.aol.com

Perhaps it was some kind of ritual
abuse by someone of the Jewish faith.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20021230161232.23430.00000342%40mb-mw.aol.com

I have no problem with anyone being Jewish,
God has a problem when people deny
that Jesus is the son of God.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20021230003534.02142.00000045%40mb-fn.aol.com

Thank you, and expect to be attacked by
Mark Probert, a jew.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020620012318.03061.00000738%40mb-bg.aol.com

The only reason I called Andrew a jew boy
is because he posted 10 commmandments and
he doesn't believe in God or the bible.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020506134413.21486.00007488%40mb-fj.aol.com

And my calling Andrew a jew boy was NOT racists.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020506012459.00812.00008001%40mb-bg.aol.com

If I had called him, a.s clown, idiot, moron,
a lying stack of sh.t, or told him to F**k off,
that would be A OK,,,,,,,,,,right?

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020505002125.00763.00008303%40mb-bg.aol.com

What's the big deal? Calling you a jew boy was
exactly because you are a jew.  The same as you
calling me a methodist or baptist girl.
It doesn't even come close to all the names
you have called and your constant trash talk.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020504003536.28298.00007240%40mb-fe.aol.com

Little do you know anything about the
*10 Commandments* Jew Boy.
</quote>

Message-ID: <40D388AE.E7DC7432@sonic.net>

<quote>
Part 2: Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:26:46 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030718213628.28226.00000180%40mb-m24.aol.com

Their are Jews here and there are atheists,
(they are the ones who have told the group) with the
exception of IIena, they have proven themselves
to be  liars, deceitful and insulters.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030630184145.13643.00002027%40mb-m11.aol.com

That's because most every atheist and jew here
has INDEED lied. They know it,
yet they cover for each other.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030614013041.10617.00001458%40mb-m15.aol.com

The group here are mostly atheists and jews,
(who falsely believe they are enlightened) and need
to have an argument going, thinking they can boast their
ego. They tell lies, twist what is said, and IMHO
are lead by Satan.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030613000639.06893.00001804%40mb-m19.aol.com

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA
who LIE through their tetth, do nothing
but belittle, and are filled with hate, are atheists or jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612202124.06893.00001784%40mb-m19.aol.com

I repeat:
The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612014151.04369.00001280%40mb-m15.aol.com

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived
as Eve was when Satan debunked
God's word.
That was the start of debunking.
Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried
to debunk his words, and even
debunked his miracles whch happened right
before their eyes.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612011123.04369.00001278%40mb-m15.aol.com

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him.
They debunked all his words and works,
and now debunking and lies are second
nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030610213830.23300.00000368%40mb-m26.aol.com

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030324214236.16466.00000249%40mb-mf.aol.com

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng,
with their vile false accusations and they are all filled
with hate.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030324214236.16466.00000249%40mb-mf.aol.com

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even
for the holocaust. When noone here was in any way
involved.
</quote>

Message-ID: <40D388DD.47EAB649@sonic.net>

<quoted>
Part 3: Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:27:32 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040224182922.19410.00000351%40mb-m16.aol.com

Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over
and over, as well as posting nasty hateful lying websites
trying to personally trash. That is the facts.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040223172959.20223.00000244%40mb-m04.aol.com

There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
(on this ng).

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040221204234.20451.00000208%40mb-m28.aol.com

To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those
who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040220213242.12315.00000073%40mb-m02.aol.com

We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
to them.
</quote>

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Mark Probert - 24 Jul 2009 01:42 GMT
> http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html

I have no connection with that organization.

> http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-mer...

You are stalking my business and putting women's lives in jeopardy.
One is a single mother of three.

Keep this up. AOL TOS clearly prohibits this.
Jan Drew - 24 Jul 2009 03:18 GMT
> >http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Keep this up. AOL TOS clearly prohibits this.

It is public record in the yellow pages.

Stalking is one of you favorite words.

I thought you were going to leave me alone?
Peter Bowditch - 24 Jul 2009 03:29 GMT
>> >http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>It is public record in the yellow pages.

Jan, I run a computer consulting company. It is a public record that
IBM is in the yellow pages and offers consulting services.

Do I work for IBM?

>Stalking is one of you favorite words.
>
>I thought you were going to leave me alone?

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Mark Probert - 24 Jul 2009 04:09 GMT
> > >http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> It is public record in the yellow pages.

It is not linked to me anywhere. Thus, stalking.

> Stalking is one of you favorite words.

Not really. But, IT IS YOUR HOBBY!

> I thought you were going to leave me alone?

When YOU leave ME alone, it will happen. You have not let up for
years.

However, no more free rides. NONE.

YOU stop, I stop. , well...
Happy Oyster - 24 Jul 2009 07:31 GMT
>I thought you were going to leave me alone?

[...]

>Well, then--feel free to leave.

Okay, so here comes part number four:

        FAQ about Jan Drew's advertizing for quackery
        *********************************************

                      Part IV

June, 24th., 2004

                            ************************
>>Subject: Murderous "helpers"
>>From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>He and Happy have a lot in comon.

That says Jan Drew.

Who is Jan Drew ? Jan Drew is a person who showed up in the net in 1999. Since
then he dumped trash, lies and insults and forgeries into the net. Day for day.
Thousands and thousands of postings filled with lies and hate, and hate and
lies. All for one sole reason : to advertize quackery and charlatanism.  

Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> collected some examples which show the character
of Jan Drew :

Message-ID: <40D38837.277810AA@sonic.net>

<quote>
Part 1:  Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:24:47 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030203003915.08900.00000405%40mb-mf.aol.com

Perhaps it was some kind of ritual
abuse by someone of the Jewish faith.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20021230161232.23430.00000342%40mb-mw.aol.com

I have no problem with anyone being Jewish,
God has a problem when people deny
that Jesus is the son of God.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20021230003534.02142.00000045%40mb-fn.aol.com

Thank you, and expect to be attacked by
Mark Probert, a jew.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020620012318.03061.00000738%40mb-bg.aol.com

The only reason I called Andrew a jew boy
is because he posted 10 commmandments and
he doesn't believe in God or the bible.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020506134413.21486.00007488%40mb-fj.aol.com

And my calling Andrew a jew boy was NOT racists.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020506012459.00812.00008001%40mb-bg.aol.com

If I had called him, a.s clown, idiot, moron,
a lying stack of sh.t, or told him to F**k off,
that would be A OK,,,,,,,,,,right?

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020505002125.00763.00008303%40mb-bg.aol.com

What's the big deal? Calling you a jew boy was
exactly because you are a jew.  The same as you
calling me a methodist or baptist girl.
It doesn't even come close to all the names
you have called and your constant trash talk.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020504003536.28298.00007240%40mb-fe.aol.com

Little do you know anything about the
*10 Commandments* Jew Boy.
</quote>

Message-ID: <40D388AE.E7DC7432@sonic.net>

<quote>
Part 2: Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:26:46 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030718213628.28226.00000180%40mb-m24.aol.com

Their are Jews here and there are atheists,
(they are the ones who have told the group) with the
exception of IIena, they have proven themselves
to be  liars, deceitful and insulters.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030630184145.13643.00002027%40mb-m11.aol.com

That's because most every atheist and jew here
has INDEED lied. They know it,
yet they cover for each other.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030614013041.10617.00001458%40mb-m15.aol.com

The group here are mostly atheists and jews,
(who falsely believe they are enlightened) and need
to have an argument going, thinking they can boast their
ego. They tell lies, twist what is said, and IMHO
are lead by Satan.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030613000639.06893.00001804%40mb-m19.aol.com

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA
who LIE through their tetth, do nothing
but belittle, and are filled with hate, are atheists or jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612202124.06893.00001784%40mb-m19.aol.com

I repeat:
The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612014151.04369.00001280%40mb-m15.aol.com

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived
as Eve was when Satan debunked
God's word.
That was the start of debunking.
Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried
to debunk his words, and even
debunked his miracles whch happened right
before their eyes.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030612011123.04369.00001278%40mb-m15.aol.com

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him.
They debunked all his words and works,
and now debunking and lies are second
nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030610213830.23300.00000368%40mb-m26.aol.com

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030324214236.16466.00000249%40mb-mf.aol.com

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng,
with their vile false accusations and they are all filled
with hate.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030324214236.16466.00000249%40mb-mf.aol.com

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even
for the holocaust. When noone here was in any way
involved.
</quote>

Message-ID: <40D388DD.47EAB649@sonic.net>

<quoted>
Part 3: Jan Drew's Hatred For Jews

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:27:32 GMT

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040224182922.19410.00000351%40mb-m16.aol.com

Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over
and over, as well as posting nasty hateful lying websites
trying to personally trash. That is the facts.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040223172959.20223.00000244%40mb-m04.aol.com

There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
(on this ng).

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040221204234.20451.00000208%40mb-m28.aol.com

To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those
who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040220213242.12315.00000073%40mb-m02.aol.com

We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
to them.
</quote>

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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Bob Officer - 25 Jul 2009 21:54 GMT
>> >http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>It is public record in the yellow pages.

What gives you the right to post it in reference to mark? what are
you trying to accomplish.

>Stalking is one of you favorite words.

It is an apt description of your own actions, Jan.

>I thought you were going to leave me alone?

What ever gave you that idea.

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Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au

t - 25 Jul 2009 22:46 GMT
Leaving the important words............

>>I thought you were going to leave me alone?
>
> What ever gave you that idea.
>
>> http://www.skeptics.com.au
Mark Probert - 26 Jul 2009 05:02 GMT
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:18:21 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> What ever gave you that idea.

The problem is that Jan does not see that her ISP found her behavior
to be so egregious (Jan, that means bad) that they pulled her access.
She did not learn anything from this episode. Nothing.

For her, it is business as usual. I find this to be profoundly sad.
Bob Officer - 27 Jul 2009 05:25 GMT
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:18:21 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
>For her, it is business as usual. I find this to be profoundly sad.

It is sad and pathetic.

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t - 27 Jul 2009 10:57 GMT
Peter B. - 26 Jul 2009 04:37 GMT
You are too old to be a hummer.
Linda - 28 Jul 2009 12:57 GMT
> http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
> http://local.yahoo.com/info-11436761-claims-investigations-agency-mer...

"Micheal",  the criminal who moved into a unit on the floor below mine
to spy on me and mine for approximately a year,  hailed from Florida
according to the Grey Hound bus ticket "Micheal" left attached to the
port-a-potty "Micheal" threw in the dumpster when Micheal was forced
to move to a unit further away from yours truly.

Have you discovered a connection between the serial and criminal
stalker from Merrick NY and the  socalled "investigation" agency in
Florida?
Mark Probert - 28 Jul 2009 13:55 GMT
> >http://www.claimsinvestigationagency.com/about.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> stalker from Merrick NY and the  socalled "investigation" agency in
> Florida?

There is no serial and criminal stalker from Merrick, NY, and no one
is connected to Florida. I hate the place...
 
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