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AFSCME PEOPLE ATTACK OBAMA HEALTH CARE

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Raymond - 29 Nov 2008 17:57 GMT
“He who is greedy is always in want.”
Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)

AFSCME PEOPLE ATTACK OBAMA HEALTH CARE
By Bonnie McCrory Parker - Dec 30th, 2007 at 5:37 am EST
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PLEASE HELP FIGHT THIS NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN AGAINST OBAMA

Two recent flyers mailed from American Federation of State, County &
Municipal Employees Committee (at 1625 L Street, NW, Washington, DC
200036) have made major attacks against Barack Obama: I quote: "There
are 15 million reasons why Barack Obama's health care plan is not up
ot the job".
I would like feedback from anyone who knows where this attack is
really coming from and who they support. This organization claims they
are not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
ANOTHER QUOTE: "15 million Americans can't afford to wait for Obama's
actions to catch up to his promises"

Health Professionals:
Background

All health professionals are included in this category: all
specialties of physicians, psychiatrists, dentists, chiropractors,
pharmacists, nurses, nutritionists and everyone else providing health
care services--as well as their professional associations.
(Chiropractors, dentists, and nurses are subsets of this industry and
are profiled in greater detail within this section.)

The health professionals industry is one of the top industries when it
comes to campaign giving. Key players include the American Medical
Association (AMA), the American Dental Association and the American
Society of Anesthesiologists, all of which share the common policy
goals of increasing health professionals' compensation under Medicare
and increasing access to health care for people in underserved areas.
The AMA--the industry's largest trade group and one of its largest
campaign contributors--has said that reforming the country's medical
liability system is one of its top priorities, as it has been in years
past. The fight is always a contentious one, pitting the AMA against
the American Association for Justice, the alliance of trial lawyers
that is a top donor to federal campaigns among the legal field and a
group that stands to gain from lucrative malpractice suits.

While contributions to federal candidates, parties, and committees
from health professionals have been strongly Republican over the
years, certain subsets of the industry, such as nurses, have been more
generous to Democratic candidates. Health professionals spent more
than $58 million on lobbying in 2006, with the AMA spending the most
at nearly $20 million. Industry lobbying efforts in 2006 focused on a
variety of issues, from Medicare reform to research funding.

Last updated June 4, 2007

Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the
Center for Responsive Politics.

Health Professionals:
Background

All health professionals are included in this category: all
specialties of physicians, psychiatrists, dentists, chiropractors,
pharmacists, nurses, nutritionists and everyone else providing health
care services--as well as their professional associations.
(Chiropractors, dentists, and nurses are subsets of this industry and
are profiled in greater detail within this section.)

The health professionals industry is one of the top industries when it
comes to campaign giving. Key players include the American Medical
Association (AMA), the American Dental Association and the American
Society of Anesthesiologists, all of which share the common policy
goals of increasing health professionals' compensation under Medicare
and increasing access to health care for people in underserved areas.
The AMA--the industry's largest trade group and one of its largest
campaign contributors--has said that reforming the country's medical
liability system is one of its top priorities, as it has been in years
past. The fight is always a contentious one, pitting the AMA against
the American Association for Justice, the alliance of trial lawyers
that is a top donor to federal campaigns among the legal field and a
group that stands to gain from lucrative malpractice suits.

While contributions to federal candidates, parties, and committees
from health professionals have been strongly Republican over the
years, certain subsets of the industry, such as nurses, have been more
generous to Democratic candidates. Health professionals spent more
than $58 million on lobbying in 2006, with the AMA spending the most
at nearly $20 million. Industry lobbying efforts in 2006 focused on a
variety of issues, from Medicare reform to research funding.

Last updated June 4, 2007

Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the
Center for Responsive Politics.

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marcia - 29 Nov 2008 18:13 GMT
> “He who is greedy is always in want.”
>  Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)
[quoted text clipped - 97 lines]
>
> http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/bonnieparker/CgZD

They all have excellent insurance plans that they're afraid will
become less comprehensive under Obama's yet-to-be-determined
legislation, and they don't want to pay higher taxes on anything so
others can enjoy needed benefits. It's motivated by greed and self-
interest, just like most other things in life.
Citizen Jimserac - 29 Nov 2008 18:24 GMT
> > “He who is greedy is always in want.”
> >  Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)
[quoted text clipped - 103 lines]
> others can enjoy needed benefits. It's motivated by greed and self-
> interest, just like most other things in life.

You've GOT to be joking.  NOBODY has an excellent insurance plan-
the insurance companies are like parasites, sucking resources
out of our health care system and from individuals in order to make
profits
for themselves.   Have you not read of the numerous pre-existing
condition
exclusions, people going bankrupt on termination of coverages,
and denial of coverage... even CANCELLATION of coverage when
people get breast cancer - you've not heard of any of this?

Citizen JImserac
marcia - 29 Nov 2008 18:37 GMT
> > > “He who is greedy is always in want.”
> > >  Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)
[quoted text clipped - 115 lines]
>
> Citizen JImserac

Hard as it is to believe, regular government employees (my mother is
one) have excellent insurance, as do members of Congress, employees of
most hospitals, the few remaining workers who are union members.

The REST of us either have no insurance or have variations on terrible
insurance coverage that gets worse every year. Yes, I'm very familiar
with insurance exclusions, pre-existing conditions, higher premiums,
higher co-pays, higher co-insurance, etc., and agree with most of what
you've written. Just saying, there are still a few who aren't
negatively impacted yet.

I have a friend who had insurance through a certain company through
her employer for two years who needed a double hip replacement due to
avascular necrosis. The insurance company denied the claim, saying it
was *related* to treatment for a pre-existing condition. She had to
quit her job and get Medicaid in order to get treated. She could have
(and may) fought the company, but was in too much pain to wait for
them to reverse their decision. I hate the insurance industry.
Citizen Jimserac - 30 Nov 2008 13:06 GMT
> On Nov 29, 1:24 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 136 lines]
> (and may) fought the company, but was in too much pain to wait for
> them to reverse their decision. I hate the insurance industry.

I agree completely.
A lucky few have perfect plans and the rest of us
are left out.  Over 45 MILLION Americans
have no health care coverage.
For those who have plans, the insurance
companies' attitude seems to be that you can have
all the coverage that you want as long as you're healthy.

The "health care" "providers" (sic) and insurance companies
are part of the problem,not part of the solution
and I think everyone by now knows it, except
for people who benefit from that industry - it
is huge and they have a powerful lobby.

They MUST go and kicking them out of health care
will free up BILLIONS of dollars to set up a real system.

Citizen Jimserac
Raymond - 29 Nov 2008 18:52 GMT
> > “He who is greedy is always in want.”
> >  Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)
[quoted text clipped - 105 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

America's Disease is Greed
"Greed is good."--- Gordon Gekko

Forget about Al Qaeda - Greed will destroy America
Don't let anyone tell you that lust is the most deadly of the deadly
sins The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is
reckless and
untrammeled greed.

"The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their
wealth seems rather to possess them than they possess their wealth."
---- ????

The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is reckless
and
untrammeled greed. Greed caused the disgraceful corporate scandals
that
fill our newspapers. Greed is responsible for crooked cops and
crooked
politicians. Greed causes the constant efforts to destroy unions that
protect basic worker rights.

Greed has produced rash tax cuts that have given money to the rich
and
in effect taken it away from the poor. Greed has led to the
immigration
policy in which hundreds of poor men and women die every year as they
struggle across the desert for the jobs that el norte promises them.
Greed accounts for the efforts to take profitability out of the
pensions and health insurance of working men and women. Greed is
responsible for the fact that so many Americans have no health
insurance and the fact that the recent reform of Medicare was a
fraud.
Greed causes newspapers to overestimate their circulation.

Greed has caused the Bush oil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL!
The 1040-mile long oil pipeline would extend south through
Afghanistan
to an export terminal that would be constructed on the Pakistan
coast.
...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/oil.html
http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/front.htm
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/warforoil.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi7.html

Iraq's Oil: The Spoils of War
Published on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 by the Independent / UK.
Iraq's
Oil: The Spoils of War. by Philip Thornton. Iraqis face the dire
prospect of losing ...
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1122-03.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/12heart.htm

Greedy corporate executives and shareholders will destroy America
right
along with the politicians and the warmongering neocons that surround
the White House. Greed is the reason why the country is being run by
those whom the president has described, however inelegantly, as the
''haves and the have mores.''

Greed is responsible for the obscene salaries of CEOs. In the '90s
the
ratio of CEO compensation to average workers' compensation was 250 to
1, meaning that the boss earned on his first day of work during a
year
as much as the worker did in a whole year. In European countries the
ratio is closer to 100 to 1. Recent estimates put the current ratio
at
500 to 1 -- the boss makes as much before lunch as the worker does
all
year. Greed is the cause of the high wages paid to the bosses even if
the company is failing.

Greed drives the murders of the narcotics world. Greed is responsible
for the exploitations of teen sports stars by colleges and for the
mess
in the pro sports world. It is also the cause of the use of
performance
drugs by young athletes. Greed is responsible for the bad advice
lawyers gave the Church years ago to beat victims of sexual abuse
into
the ground. It is behind the scam artists who steal from the elderly.

Greed may have been a more serious problem for Americans, say, in the
era of the robber barons. But the Garys and the Morgans and the
Carnegies were a small bunch of men. Now their greed has seeped down
to
a much larger segment of the population

Why do they send jobs overseas? The technology executives get giant
stock options for sending your jobs offshore. Technology executives
take great advantage of the folks that work for their companies by
the
massive outsourcing of jobs. These greedy executives are turning
American Workers into second class citizens. And who made it all
possible?
The people with the blood-soaked hands in Congress, all while being
approved by our presidents -  both Republican and Democrat.Greed is
responsible for outsourcing, which is incapable of comprehending that
the employees who lose their jobs are also the consumers who sustain
the economy.

The president has very little to do with something as complex as the
US
economy so we have to blame Congress first. They are the ones who
pass
the legislation that make it possible for US companies to move
offshore
and to do it with incentive. Congress could easily pass legislation
that gives companies incentive to keep jobs in the US. It is the  big
money lobbyists that get Congress to see it their way everyday.
Nobody's lobbying for the lower and middle class.

Bumpers
How the Sunshine Harmed Congress. Senator Dale Bumpers. Democrat,
Arkansas. retired end of 1998. Twenty-four years ago I came to the
United States Senate ...
http://inic.utexas.edu/~bennett/__310/Bumpers.htm

"This is an impressive crowd: the Have's and Have-more's. Some people
call you the elites. I call you my base."
---  George W. Bush quotes (American 43rd US President since 2001.
b.1946)

Published on Friday, August 20, 2004 by the Chicago Sun Times
America's Disease is Greed
by Andrew Greeley
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0820-09.htm

And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very
good,
and the Lord said: "Oi Vay, I almost forgot, and let there be greed."

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