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Raymond - 29 Nov 2008 17:57 GMT “He who is greedy is always in want.” Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC)
AFSCME PEOPLE ATTACK OBAMA HEALTH CARE By Bonnie McCrory Parker - Dec 30th, 2007 at 5:37 am EST Also listed in: 10 groups
PLEASE HELP FIGHT THIS NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN AGAINST OBAMA
Two recent flyers mailed from American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees Committee (at 1625 L Street, NW, Washington, DC 200036) have made major attacks against Barack Obama: I quote: "There are 15 million reasons why Barack Obama's health care plan is not up ot the job". I would like feedback from anyone who knows where this attack is really coming from and who they support. This organization claims they are not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. ANOTHER QUOTE: "15 million Americans can't afford to wait for Obama's actions to catch up to his promises"
Health Professionals: Background
All health professionals are included in this category: all specialties of physicians, psychiatrists, dentists, chiropractors, pharmacists, nurses, nutritionists and everyone else providing health care services--as well as their professional associations. (Chiropractors, dentists, and nurses are subsets of this industry and are profiled in greater detail within this section.)
The health professionals industry is one of the top industries when it comes to campaign giving. Key players include the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Dental Association and the American Society of Anesthesiologists, all of which share the common policy goals of increasing health professionals' compensation under Medicare and increasing access to health care for people in underserved areas. The AMA--the industry's largest trade group and one of its largest campaign contributors--has said that reforming the country's medical liability system is one of its top priorities, as it has been in years past. The fight is always a contentious one, pitting the AMA against the American Association for Justice, the alliance of trial lawyers that is a top donor to federal campaigns among the legal field and a group that stands to gain from lucrative malpractice suits.
While contributions to federal candidates, parties, and committees from health professionals have been strongly Republican over the years, certain subsets of the industry, such as nurses, have been more generous to Democratic candidates. Health professionals spent more than $58 million on lobbying in 2006, with the AMA spending the most at nearly $20 million. Industry lobbying efforts in 2006 focused on a variety of issues, from Medicare reform to research funding.
Last updated June 4, 2007
Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the Center for Responsive Politics.
Health Professionals: Background
All health professionals are included in this category: all specialties of physicians, psychiatrists, dentists, chiropractors, pharmacists, nurses, nutritionists and everyone else providing health care services--as well as their professional associations. (Chiropractors, dentists, and nurses are subsets of this industry and are profiled in greater detail within this section.)
The health professionals industry is one of the top industries when it comes to campaign giving. Key players include the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Dental Association and the American Society of Anesthesiologists, all of which share the common policy goals of increasing health professionals' compensation under Medicare and increasing access to health care for people in underserved areas. The AMA--the industry's largest trade group and one of its largest campaign contributors--has said that reforming the country's medical liability system is one of its top priorities, as it has been in years past. The fight is always a contentious one, pitting the AMA against the American Association for Justice, the alliance of trial lawyers that is a top donor to federal campaigns among the legal field and a group that stands to gain from lucrative malpractice suits.
While contributions to federal candidates, parties, and committees from health professionals have been strongly Republican over the years, certain subsets of the industry, such as nurses, have been more generous to Democratic candidates. Health professionals spent more than $58 million on lobbying in 2006, with the AMA spending the most at nearly $20 million. Industry lobbying efforts in 2006 focused on a variety of issues, from Medicare reform to research funding.
Last updated June 4, 2007
Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the Center for Responsive Politics.
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marcia - 29 Nov 2008 18:13 GMT > “He who is greedy is always in want.” > Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC) [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > > http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/bonnieparker/CgZD They all have excellent insurance plans that they're afraid will become less comprehensive under Obama's yet-to-be-determined legislation, and they don't want to pay higher taxes on anything so others can enjoy needed benefits. It's motivated by greed and self- interest, just like most other things in life.
Citizen Jimserac - 29 Nov 2008 18:24 GMT > > “He who is greedy is always in want.” > > Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC) [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > others can enjoy needed benefits. It's motivated by greed and self- > interest, just like most other things in life. You've GOT to be joking. NOBODY has an excellent insurance plan- the insurance companies are like parasites, sucking resources out of our health care system and from individuals in order to make profits for themselves. Have you not read of the numerous pre-existing condition exclusions, people going bankrupt on termination of coverages, and denial of coverage... even CANCELLATION of coverage when people get breast cancer - you've not heard of any of this?
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marcia - 29 Nov 2008 18:37 GMT > > > “He who is greedy is always in want.” > > > Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC) [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > > Citizen JImserac Hard as it is to believe, regular government employees (my mother is one) have excellent insurance, as do members of Congress, employees of most hospitals, the few remaining workers who are union members.
The REST of us either have no insurance or have variations on terrible insurance coverage that gets worse every year. Yes, I'm very familiar with insurance exclusions, pre-existing conditions, higher premiums, higher co-pays, higher co-insurance, etc., and agree with most of what you've written. Just saying, there are still a few who aren't negatively impacted yet.
I have a friend who had insurance through a certain company through her employer for two years who needed a double hip replacement due to avascular necrosis. The insurance company denied the claim, saying it was *related* to treatment for a pre-existing condition. She had to quit her job and get Medicaid in order to get treated. She could have (and may) fought the company, but was in too much pain to wait for them to reverse their decision. I hate the insurance industry.
Citizen Jimserac - 30 Nov 2008 13:06 GMT > On Nov 29, 1:24 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > (and may) fought the company, but was in too much pain to wait for > them to reverse their decision. I hate the insurance industry. I agree completely. A lucky few have perfect plans and the rest of us are left out. Over 45 MILLION Americans have no health care coverage. For those who have plans, the insurance companies' attitude seems to be that you can have all the coverage that you want as long as you're healthy.
The "health care" "providers" (sic) and insurance companies are part of the problem,not part of the solution and I think everyone by now knows it, except for people who benefit from that industry - it is huge and they have a powerful lobby.
They MUST go and kicking them out of health care will free up BILLIONS of dollars to set up a real system.
Citizen Jimserac
Raymond - 29 Nov 2008 18:52 GMT > > “He who is greedy is always in want.” > > Horace quotes (Ancient Roman Poet. 65 BC-8 BC) [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > > - Show quoted text - America's Disease is Greed "Greed is good."--- Gordon Gekko
Forget about Al Qaeda - Greed will destroy America Don't let anyone tell you that lust is the most deadly of the deadly sins The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is reckless and untrammeled greed.
"The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their wealth seems rather to possess them than they possess their wealth." ---- ????
The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is reckless and untrammeled greed. Greed caused the disgraceful corporate scandals that fill our newspapers. Greed is responsible for crooked cops and crooked politicians. Greed causes the constant efforts to destroy unions that protect basic worker rights.
Greed has produced rash tax cuts that have given money to the rich and in effect taken it away from the poor. Greed has led to the immigration policy in which hundreds of poor men and women die every year as they struggle across the desert for the jobs that el norte promises them. Greed accounts for the efforts to take profitability out of the pensions and health insurance of working men and women. Greed is responsible for the fact that so many Americans have no health insurance and the fact that the recent reform of Medicare was a fraud. Greed causes newspapers to overestimate their circulation.
Greed has caused the Bush oil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL! The 1040-mile long oil pipeline would extend south through Afghanistan to an export terminal that would be constructed on the Pakistan coast. ... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/oil.html http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/front.htm http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/warforoil.html http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi7.html
Iraq's Oil: The Spoils of War Published on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 by the Independent / UK. Iraq's Oil: The Spoils of War. by Philip Thornton. Iraqis face the dire prospect of losing ... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1122-03.htm http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/12heart.htm
Greedy corporate executives and shareholders will destroy America right along with the politicians and the warmongering neocons that surround the White House. Greed is the reason why the country is being run by those whom the president has described, however inelegantly, as the ''haves and the have mores.''
Greed is responsible for the obscene salaries of CEOs. In the '90s the ratio of CEO compensation to average workers' compensation was 250 to 1, meaning that the boss earned on his first day of work during a year as much as the worker did in a whole year. In European countries the ratio is closer to 100 to 1. Recent estimates put the current ratio at 500 to 1 -- the boss makes as much before lunch as the worker does all year. Greed is the cause of the high wages paid to the bosses even if the company is failing.
Greed drives the murders of the narcotics world. Greed is responsible for the exploitations of teen sports stars by colleges and for the mess in the pro sports world. It is also the cause of the use of performance drugs by young athletes. Greed is responsible for the bad advice lawyers gave the Church years ago to beat victims of sexual abuse into the ground. It is behind the scam artists who steal from the elderly.
Greed may have been a more serious problem for Americans, say, in the era of the robber barons. But the Garys and the Morgans and the Carnegies were a small bunch of men. Now their greed has seeped down to a much larger segment of the population
Why do they send jobs overseas? The technology executives get giant stock options for sending your jobs offshore. Technology executives take great advantage of the folks that work for their companies by the massive outsourcing of jobs. These greedy executives are turning American Workers into second class citizens. And who made it all possible? The people with the blood-soaked hands in Congress, all while being approved by our presidents - both Republican and Democrat.Greed is responsible for outsourcing, which is incapable of comprehending that the employees who lose their jobs are also the consumers who sustain the economy.
The president has very little to do with something as complex as the US economy so we have to blame Congress first. They are the ones who pass the legislation that make it possible for US companies to move offshore and to do it with incentive. Congress could easily pass legislation that gives companies incentive to keep jobs in the US. It is the big money lobbyists that get Congress to see it their way everyday. Nobody's lobbying for the lower and middle class.
Bumpers How the Sunshine Harmed Congress. Senator Dale Bumpers. Democrat, Arkansas. retired end of 1998. Twenty-four years ago I came to the United States Senate ... http://inic.utexas.edu/~bennett/__310/Bumpers.htm
"This is an impressive crowd: the Have's and Have-more's. Some people call you the elites. I call you my base." --- George W. Bush quotes (American 43rd US President since 2001. b.1946)
Published on Friday, August 20, 2004 by the Chicago Sun Times America's Disease is Greed by Andrew Greeley http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0820-09.htm
And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good, and the Lord said: "Oi Vay, I almost forgot, and let there be greed."
Edited and added to: by Raymond-Liberal American
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