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Flaxseed Oil Differential Effects
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ironjustice - 25 Nov 2008 18:39 GMT "Flaxseed Oil Can Raise Plasma ALA, but not EPA" "Flax oil increased erythrocyte EPA"
Flaxseed oil raises the EPA in the red blood cell but not the plasma ?
Is there a difference .. ?
Flaxseed Oil Can Raise Plasma ALA, but not EPA or DHA Levels Background: Dietary flaxseed may have significant health-related benefits due to its high content of the omega-3 fatty acid, alpha-linolenic acid (ALA). However, before extensive work can be undertaken in clinical populations to determine its efficacy, basic information on ALA bioavailability from flaxseed and the physiological effects of its ingestion need to be examined. Objective: The purpose of this study, therefore, was to determine the bioavailability of ALA when the flaxseed was ingested in the form of whole seed, milled seed or as flaxseed oil. Design: The flaxseed components (30 g of seed or 6 g of ALA in the oil) were baked into muffins for delivery over a three-month test period in healthy male and female subjects. Results: Flaxseed ingestion over a one month period resulted in significant (P = 0.005) increases in plasma ALA levels in the flaxseed oil and the milled flaxseed supplemented groups. The former group had significantly (P = 0.004) higher ALA levels than the milled flaxseed group. The subjects supplemented with whole flaxseed did not achieve a significant (P > 0.05) increase in plasma ALA levels. An additional two months of flaxseed ingestion did not achieve significantly higher levels of plasma ALA in any of the groups. However, no significant increase was detected in plasma eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) or docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) levels in any of the flax-fed groups. There were no changes in plasma cholesterol or triglycerides or in platelet aggregation at any time point in any of the groups. Subjects in all of the groups exhibited some symptoms of gastro-intestinal discomfort during the early stages of the study, but these disappeared in the oil and milled seed groups. However, compliance was a problem in the whole flaxseed group. Conclusion: In summary, ingestion of flax oil and milled flaxseed delivered significant levels of ALA to the plasma whereas whole flaxseed did not. Whole seed and oil preparations induced adverse gastrointestinal effects within four weeks and these were severe enough to induce the withdrawal of some subjects from these two groups. No one withdrew from the group that ingested milled flaxseedand, therefore, may represent a good form of flaxseed to avoidserious side-effects and still provide significant increases in ALA tothe body. Austria J, et al. Bioavailability of Alpha-Linolenic Acid in Subjects after Ingestion of Three Different Forms of Flaxseed. Journal of the American College of Nutrition 2008;27: 214-221.
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Flaxseed oil and fish-oil capsule consumption alters human red blood cell n-3 fatty acid composition: a multiple-dosing trial comparing 2 sources of n-3 fatty acid. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Sep;88(3):801-9. Barceló-Coblijn G, Murphy EJ, Othman R, Moghadasian MH, Kashour T, Friel JK. Department of Pharmacology, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, ND, USA.
BACKGROUND: An increase in plasma n-3 fatty acid content, particularly eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n-3; EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3; DHA), is observed after consumption of fish oil-enriched supplements. Because alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3; ALA) is the direct precursor of EPA and DHA, ALA-enriched supplements such as flax may have a similar effect, although this hypothesis has been challenged because of reported low conversion of ALA into DHA. OBJECTIVE: To address this question, we designed a clinical trial in which flax oil, fish-oil, and sunflower oil (placebo group) capsules were given to firefighters (n = 62), a group traditionally exposed to cardiovascular disease risk factors. DESIGN: Firefighters were randomly divided into 6 experimental groups receiving 1.2, 2.4, or 3.6 g flax oil/d; 0.6 or 1.2 g fish oil/d; or 1 g sunflower oil/d for 12 wk. Blood was drawn every 2 wk, and the total phospholipid fatty acid composition of red blood cells was determined. RESULTS: As expected, fish oil produced a rapid increase in erythrocyte DHA and total n-3 fatty acids. The consumption of either 2.4 or 3.6 g flax oil/d (in capsules) was sufficient to significantly increase erythrocyte total phospholipid ALA, EPA, and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-3) fatty acid content. There were no differences among groups in plasma inflammatory markers or lipid profile. CONCLUSIONS: The consumption of ALA-enriched supplements for 12 wk was sufficient to elevate erythrocyte EPA and docosapentaenoic acid content, which shows the effectiveness of ALA conversion and accretion into erythrocytes. The amounts of ALA required to obtain these effects are amounts that are easily achieved in the general population by dietary modification.
PMID: 18779299
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anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 25 Nov 2008 22:12 GMT "Flaxseed oil raises the EPA in the red blood cell but not the plasma ?
Is there a difference .. ?"
Oh, go on now, stop teasing us. You as an expert know the answer to this question. You do don't you? Well in that case, when next you give blood ask the people there for the answer. The answer is critical to questions about how iron functions.
Btw, fish oil does both and both forms are available without the rather ineffective conversion from the flaxseed. But you knew that didn't you?
ironjustice@aol.com - 26 Nov 2008 01:44 GMT On Nov 25, 2:12 pm, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote: snip <<
Don't post to my threads dioxin boy ..
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Dr. Wayne Simon - 26 Nov 2008 13:46 GMT This information perhaps, will be called upon, in Barry Bonds, trial next March. Was it the clear, and or the cream? or was it Flaxseed oil as Barry thought? Perhaps your expertise will be called upon, in this upcoming high profile case.
ironjustice - 26 Nov 2008 15:54 GMT This information perhaps, will be called upon, in Barry Bonds, trial next March. Was it the clear, and or the cream? or was it Flaxseed oil as Barry thought? Perhaps your expertise will be called upon, in this upcoming high profile case. <<
Based on .. **performance** .. I would be invited LONG before someone like yourself .. eh .. doc ..
BUT that would be .. **fair** .. and NOT .. to your .. liking ..
Would it .. medical .. boy ..
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Dr. Wayne Simon - 30 Nov 2008 06:45 GMT Where did that come from I.J. I guess you are revealing your magnetic side.
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 26 Nov 2008 22:51 GMT "Don't post to my threads dioxin boy .."
No, not when you continue to spin your delusions. Now if you please, do address the following:
"Flaxseed oil raises the EPA in the red blood cell but not the plasma ?
Is there a difference .. ?"
Oh, go on now, stop teasing us. You as an expert know the answer to this question. You do don't you? Well in that case, when next you give blood ask the people there for the answer. The answer is critical to questions about how iron functions.
Btw, fish oil does both and both forms are available without the rather ineffective conversion from the flaxseed. But you knew that didn't you?
ironjustice - 27 Nov 2008 00:12 GMT On Nov 26, 2:51 pm, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote: snip <<
Don't post to my threads dioxin boy ..
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anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 27 Nov 2008 15:54 GMT Just answer the questions, if you can. If not we know the truth; not that we don't already.
Here it is again:
"Don't post to my threads dioxin boy .."
No, not when you continue to spin your delusions. Now if you please, do address the following:
"Flaxseed oil raises the EPA in the red blood cell but not the plasma ?
Is there a difference .. ?"
Oh, go on now, stop teasing us. You as an expert know the answer to this question. You do don't you? Well in that case, when next you give blood ask the people there for the answer. The answer is critical to questions about how iron functions.
Btw, fish oil does both and both forms are available without the rather ineffective conversion from the flaxseed. But you knew that didn't you?
ironjustice - 29 Nov 2008 21:46 GMT On Nov 27, 7:54 am, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote:snip <<
Don't post to my threads dioxin boy ..
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ironjustice - 26 Nov 2008 17:00 GMT On Nov 25, 10:39 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:Flaxseed oil raises the EPA in the red blood cell but not the plasma ? Is there a difference .. ? <<
They are actively looking for a chelator which is capable of differentiating between good iron and bad iron in the cell / Friedreich's Ataxia. They have shown iron to be a bad thing / lack of frataxin leading to iron buildup which is REVERSED / cured by the inclusion of vitamin E / standin for frataxin.
That is the mouse though.
IF this fatty acid IS exclusively found in the cell .. **normally** and the inclusion of an imbalanced oil diet DOES influence the fatty acid content of the cell .. ?
Since vitamin E positions itself in the lipids but does NOT seem to be the active ingredient in the efficacy of TOPICALLY applied oil / doesn't work.
Sooo .. vitamin E cures frataxin / iron excess / free radicals ..
Would could the DIFFERENT oils INSIDE the cell .. influence the susceptibility of the cell to .. misinformation .. ?
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> "Flaxseed Oil Can Raise Plasma ALA, but not EPA" > "Flax oil increased erythrocyte EPA" [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Ben C. - 26 Nov 2008 21:43 GMT I have read about Raw Flaxseed, and it is said to contain CYANIDE!!!! Can anyone verify this?
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anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 26 Nov 2008 22:45 GMT "They are actively looking for a chelator which is capable of differentiating between good iron and bad iron in the cell / Friedreich's Ataxia."
There is no such thing as "good/bad/ iron. Tell us what happens to all iron absorbed regardless of source in humans? For an "expert" this answer should be a snap.
ironjustice - 27 Nov 2008 00:12 GMT On Nov 26, 2:45 pm, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote:snip <<
Don't post to my threads dioxin boy ..
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anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 27 Nov 2008 15:56 GMT You seem to be making a habit of trying to avoid questions you can't answer or in answering will reveal more then you want. Of course not answering is answer enough.
Here it is again: "They are actively looking for a chelator which is capable of differentiating between good iron and bad iron in the cell / Friedreich's Ataxia."
There is no such thing as "good/bad/ iron. Tell us what happens to all iron absorbed regardless of source in humans? For an "expert" this answer should be a snap.
ironjustice - 29 Nov 2008 21:46 GMT On Nov 27, 7:56 am, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote:snip <<
Don't post to my threads dioxin boy ..
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