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ironjustice - 12 Sep 2008 18:53 GMT "Urinary 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine (8-OH-dG)"
That's the latest marker for increased oxidative stress.
Effect of work conditions and work environments on the formation of 8- OH-dG in nurses and non-nurse female workers. Ishihara I, Nakano M, Ikushima M, Hara Y, Yoshimine T, Haraga M, Nakatani J, Kawamoto R, Kasai H J UOEH 2008 Sep 1; 30(3):293-308.
The purpose of our study was to examine the effects of job stress factors on oxidative DNA injuries among female workers. The levels of urinary 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine (8-OH-dG) were measured along with a survey on work conditions and environments. The result showed that female workers in shift work excreted increased levels of 8-OH-dG in comparison with the result of those who were engaged in part time work (P < 0.01). Moreover, the nurses who marked higher depressive scores excreted significantly increased levels of urinary 8-OH-dG than the nurses who scored lower depressive states. The result revealed a positive correlation between 8-OH-dG levels of nurses in the 35-45 age group and the individual scores of their depressive states (r = 0.32, P < 0.05). Together, it was suggested that a heavy burden of work in addition to daily domestic roles increases urinary excretion levels of 8-OH-dG.
J UOEH
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Michael B - 13 Sep 2008 04:50 GMT Really. And how many smokers among each category? http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/13/12/2241
Abbreviation for it is usually 8-OHdG
> "Urinary 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine (8-OH-dG)" > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk ironjustice - 13 Sep 2008 06:28 GMT On Sep 12, 8:50 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: snip <<
You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ?
Stay off my threads ..
You have a hard time understanding that .. lefty .. ?
Do ya .. ?
You don't want to be .. normal .. ?
You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty ..
Maybe use iron reduction / depletion to raise your testosterone and become .. normal.
"Phlebotomy alone for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism"
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Vol 65, 585-587, Copyright © 1987 by Endocrine Society
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ARTICLES
Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in hemochromatosis: recovery of reproductive function after iron depletion LJ Siemons and CH Mahler
We studied the effect of iron depletion on reproductive function in a 37-yr-old man with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism due to idiopathic hemochromatosis. Before therapy, he was impotent and had no libido, and seminal fluid analysis revealed no spermatozoa. Testicular biopsy showed marked impairment of spermatogenesis, but no iron load deposits. Sixteen months after institution of aggressive phlebotomy therapy, serum LH, FSH, and testosterone were normal, and potency and libido had returned. Twenty months after diagnosis the patient fathered another child. Seminal fluid analysis at that time revealed an average of 65 million spermatozoa/mL. Thus, recovery of reproductive function, documented by hormone measurements, testicular biopsy, and semen analysis, was complete. We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in men with hemochromatosis.
PMID: 11460087
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Michael B - 13 Sep 2008 12:06 GMT In spite of your addled brain, and the full knowledge that you would neither read or understand the article, I just wanted to remind you of its publication date. The test you 'discovered' is nothing new to the medical field, as evidenced by the 1992 publication date. Hmmm, guess that means the medical community didn't wait for you to tell them about oxidative stress after all. Try not to realize that you are pathetic and that your mother is concerned about how you are going to do when she's gone.
> On Sep 12, 8:50 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: snip << > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Maybe use iron reduction / depletion to raise your testosterone and > become .. normal. ironjustice@aol.com - 14 Sep 2008 00:54 GMT On Sep 13, 4:06 am, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:snip <<
You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ?
Stay off my threads ..
You have a hard time understanding that .. lefty .. ?
Do ya .. ?
You don't want to be .. normal .. ?
You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty ..
Maybe use iron reduction / depletion to raise your testosterone and become .. normal.
"Phlebotomy alone for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism"
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Vol 65, 585-587, Copyright © 1987 by Endocrine Society
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ARTICLES
Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in hemochromatosis: recovery of reproductive function after iron depletion LJ Siemons and CH Mahler
We studied the effect of iron depletion on reproductive function in a 37-yr-old man with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism due to idiopathic hemochromatosis. Before therapy, he was impotent and had no libido, and seminal fluid analysis revealed no spermatozoa. Testicular biopsy showed marked impairment of spermatogenesis, but no iron load deposits. Sixteen months after institution of aggressive phlebotomy therapy, serum LH, FSH, and testosterone were normal, and potency and libido had returned. Twenty months after diagnosis the patient fathered another child. Seminal fluid analysis at that time revealed an average of 65 million spermatozoa/mL. Thus, recovery of reproductive function, documented by hormone measurements, testicular biopsy, and semen analysis, was complete. We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in men with hemochromatosis.
PMID: 11460087
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Michael B - 14 Sep 2008 03:59 GMT Seems rather long for a sig. line
On Sep 13, 7:54 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 4:06 am, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:snip << > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk ironjustice@aol.com - 14 Sep 2008 16:16 GMT On Sep 13, 7:59 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:lefty <<
You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ?
Stay off my threads ..
You have a hard time understanding that .. lefty .. ?
Do ya .. ?
You don't want to be .. normal .. ?
You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty ..
Maybe use iron reduction / depletion to raise your testosterone and become .. normal.
"Phlebotomy alone for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism"
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Vol 65, 585-587, Copyright © 1987 by Endocrine Society
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARTICLES
Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in hemochromatosis: recovery of reproductive function after iron depletion LJ Siemons and CH Mahler
We studied the effect of iron depletion on reproductive function in a 37-yr-old man with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism due to idiopathic hemochromatosis. Before therapy, he was impotent and had no libido, and seminal fluid analysis revealed no spermatozoa. Testicular biopsy showed marked impairment of spermatogenesis, but no iron load deposits. Sixteen months after institution of aggressive phlebotomy therapy, serum LH, FSH, and testosterone were normal, and potency and libido had returned. Twenty months after diagnosis the patient fathered another child. Seminal fluid analysis at that time revealed an average of 65 million spermatozoa/mL. Thus, recovery of reproductive function, documented by hormone measurements, testicular biopsy, and semen analysis, was complete. We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in men with hemochromatosis.
PMID: 11460087
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Michael B - 21 Sep 2008 14:12 GMT As everyone knows by now, this is as good as it gets.
On Sep 14, 11:16 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 7:59 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:lefty << > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty .. ironjustice@aol.com - 21 Sep 2008 15:29 GMT On Sep 21, 6:12 am, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:lefty <<
You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ?
Stay off my threads ..
You have a hard time understanding that .. lefty .. ?
Do ya .. ?
You don't want to be .. normal .. ?
You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty ..
Maybe use iron reduction / depletion to raise your testosterone and become .. normal.
"Phlebotomy alone for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism"
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Vol 65, 585-587, Copyright © 1987 by Endocrine Society
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARTICLES
Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in hemochromatosis: recovery of reproductive function after iron depletion LJ Siemons and CH Mahler
We studied the effect of iron depletion on reproductive function in a 37-yr-old man with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism due to idiopathic hemochromatosis. Before therapy, he was impotent and had no libido, and seminal fluid analysis revealed no spermatozoa. Testicular biopsy showed marked impairment of spermatogenesis, but no iron load deposits. Sixteen months after institution of aggressive phlebotomy therapy, serum LH, FSH, and testosterone were normal, and potency and libido had returned. Twenty months after diagnosis the patient fathered another child. Seminal fluid analysis at that time revealed an average of 65 million spermatozoa/mL. Thus, recovery of reproductive function, documented by hormone measurements, testicular biopsy, and semen analysis, was complete. We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in men with hemochromatosis.
PMID: 11460087
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Rod - 29 Sep 2008 13:47 GMT > As everyone knows by now, this is as good as it gets. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> You **like** .. bringing up the .. rear .. eh .. lefty .. Is it like this all the time for you ? Day in and out ?
Andrew Heenan - 29 Sep 2008 14:06 GMT "Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> quoted the idiot... Michael B who dribbled:
>>> You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ? >>> Stay off my threads .. >>> You have a hard time understanding that .. lefty .. ? Most of us have a hard time understanding Michael B's drivel, and an even harder time understanding how come it gets to control usenet. What a plank. Either way, just killfile the twat, don't crosspost its mumblings - it only encourages it.
Best wishes,
 Signature Andrew
The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to ignore them, or reply just once - to every group *except your own* - and kill file the idiot. If we all do that, eventually the idiots have no place left to go. In the rare event that you KNOW which group it pollutes, then delete all groups except that one. So while I apologise for this cross post, you know what to do. http://www.flayme.com/
Rod - 29 Sep 2008 14:26 GMT > "Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> quoted the idiot... Michael B who dribbled: >>>> You got something wrong with your scrambled brain there .. lefty .. ? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Best wishes, I find his advice welcome. I respect your feelings on it but I'm sure it's on a more personal level, as some personalities don't mix well. I won't be calling him names or kill filing him either though i do that with trolls. I've found most here pretty likable and the advice has been quite helpful to me.
Besides, treating people this way leaves you open to the same treatment, undeservedly. I know what non acceptance feels like, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Have a very good day Andrew...
Rod
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