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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / August 2008A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS Forwarded post from "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> Famous Vegetarians Abdul Kalam Dr., President of India and Space Scientist Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna Adam Ant, musician Adam Carson, drummer of AFI Adam Russell, bassist of Story of the Year, vegan Adriana Karembeu, model Adriano Celentano, singer Ahmet Zappa, musician and actor Alan Donohue, singer of British rock band The Rakes, vegan Alan Ford, actor, British Alanis Morissette, singer Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist Alice Walker, poet and writer Alicia Silverstone, actress, vegan Alison Lohman, actress Allen Ginsberg, poet Ally Sheedy, actress Alyssa Milano, actress, vegan Amber Benson, actress Amber Valetta, model and actress Amitabh Bachchan, Indian celebrity superstar Amy Ray, musician from Indigo Girls Andre Tonelli, musician and instrumental guitarist, vegan Andre 3000 Benjamin, musician from OutKast, vegan Andrew G, actor, vegan Andrew (Whitey) White, musician and guitarist of Kaiser Chiefs Andy Dick, comedian and actor Andy Hurley, musician and drummer of Fall Out Boy, vegan Andy Serkis, actor Angela Bassett, actress Angie Everhart, model and actress Anna Paquin, actress and Oscar winner of The Piano Annalise Braakensiek, model Anne Hathaway, actress Anoushka Shankar, musician and sitar virtuoso, vegan Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist Anthony Perkins, actor Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist Aristotle, Greek philosopher Ashley Judd, actress Avril Lavigne, singer and musician Axella Johannesson, folk musician Barbara Bouchet, actress Barry White, musician, vegan Beatrice Wood, artist Belinda Carlisle, singer of the Go-Go's Benjamin Zephaniah, performance poet and author, vegan Benji Madden, musician and guitarist of Good Charlotte Berkeley Breathed, cartoonist Bernadette Peters, actress Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan Bill Goldberg, world champion pro wrestler Bill Pearl, bodybuilder Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player Billie Jean King, tennis player Billie Joe Armstrong, musician and singer of Greenday Billy Idol, musician Billy Martin, rock musician of Good Charlotte Bob Barker, US TV show host Bobby Rock, musician and drummer Bobcat Goldthwait, comedian actor Bonnie Raitt, musician and singer Boy George, singer Brad Pitt, actor Brandon Barnes, musician of Rise Against Brandon Boyd, musician of rock band Incubus Brandy, R&B artist and singer Brendon Urie, lead singer of Panic! at the Disco Brian Bell, musician of Weezer, vegan Brian Fair, singer of Shadows Fall Brian Greene, theoretical physicist, vegan Brian May, musician ex-Queen Brigitte Bardot, French actress Brooke Shields, actress Bryan Adams, singer and songwriter, vegan Bryce Dallas Howard, actress Buddha, Indian Saint and Spiritual Master Candice Bergen, actress Carmen Miranda, Brazilian bombshell Carole Bouquet, French actress Carrie Underwood, country singer Carrie Anne Moss, actress in Matrix trilogy, vegan Casey Affleck, actor, vegan Casey Kasem, US radio host, vegan Catherine Spaak, actress Cathy Guisewaite, writer of the comic CATHY Cedric Bixler-Zavala, singer of The Mars Volta, vegan Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers union organizer Chantal Coutier, makeup artist Charles Darwin, renowned scientist Charlie Heather, musician and drummer of Levellers Charlie Watts, musician and drummer of Rolling Stones Charlotte Bronte, novelist Charlotte Laws, author, actress Charlotte Ross, actress Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton Cheryl Cole, singer of the Girls Aloud Chia Collins, founder and COO of Lightlife Foods vegetarian products Chris Evans, actor from Cellular and Fantastic Four Chris Evert, American tennis legend Chris Head, musician and guitarist of Anti-Flag Chris No2, musician and bassist of Anti-Flag Chris Pontius, actor on MTV Chris Walla, guitarist of Death Cab for Cutie Chrissie Hynde, rock singer, vegan Christian Bale, actor Christie Brinkley, model Christina Applegate, actress Christopher Amott, musician of Arch Enemy Christopher Hills Dr., doctor who popularized microalgaes Christy Turlington, supermodel Cicely Tyson, actress Cillian Murphy, Irish actor Cindy Jackson, cosmetic surgery pioneer and author Claudia Cardinale, Italian film star Claudia Schiffer, supermodel Clint Eastwood, actor and film director, vegan Clint Walker, actor Coretta Scott King, activist and wife of Martin Luther King Jr., vegan Corey Feldman, actor Crispian Mills, rock musician Dalip Singh Rana, aka "Great Khali", professional Indian wrestler Daman Albarn, singer for Blur Dan Piraro, cartoonist, vegan Dana Daurey, actress Daniel Johns, musician of Silverchair, vegan Daniel Kessler, musician and guitarist of Interpol Danny Garcia, professional skateboarder Danny Nova, singer and songwriter, vegan Darren Boyd, actor, vegan Dario Argento, writer, vegan Daryl Hannah, actress and environmental activist, vegan Dave Gorman, Comedian Davey Havok, singer of AFI, vegan Dean Ornish MD, doctor and author of The Life Choice Diet Deepak Chopra, author and doctor Dennis Kucinich, politician, vegan Dennis Weaver, TV actor Diane Keaton, actress Diane Warren, songwriter Dick Gregory, comedian and civil rights activist Dick Lucas, musician of Subhumans Diogenes, Greek philosopher Dirk Bach, German actor and comedian Dizzie Gillespie, famed jazz musician Doctah B Sirius, music producer and natural health researcher Doris Day, actress Dustin Hoffman, actor Dyan Canyon, actress Ed Asner, actor and rights activist Ed Begley Jr., actor and environmental activist, vegan Ed Templeton, professional skateboarder Eddie Jackson, musician of Queensryche Eddie Lama, film maker Eddie Vedder, singer and songwriter of Pearl Jam Edward Furlong, actor Edwin Moses, athlete Elijah Wood, actor, vegan Elizabeth Berkley, actress Elvira Mistress of the Dark, actress Emily Deschanel, actress, vegan Emily Dickinson, writer and poet Emmylou Harris, singer Epicurus, Greek philosopher Eric Johnson, guitarist Eric Roberts, actor, vegan Eric Stoltz, actor Erykah Badu, R&B singer, vegan Fat Mike, musician from NOFX Fiona Apple, singer and songwriter, vegan Forest Whitaker, actor Forrest Kline, vocalist and guitarist for Hellogoodbye, vegan Francis Lalanne, French singer Frank Iero, musician of My Chemical Romance Frank Marino, entertainer and drag queen Franz Kafka, Jewish writer Fred Mascherino, musician of Taking Back Sunday, vegan -info Fred Schneider, musician of B-52's Gabe Saporta, singer and lyricist of Cobra Starship, vegan Gabrielle Miller, actress, vegan Gandhi, Hindu spiritual leader Gavin Rossdale, singer of BUSH Geoff Rickly, singer of Thursday Geoff Rowley, professional skateboarder, vegan Geoffe Tate, singer of Queensryche George Harrison, musician of the Beatles George Bernard Shaw, writer Gianni Morandi, Italian musician Gillian Anderson, actress Gina Lee Nolin, actress Gloria Swanson, actress Grace Slick, singer and songwriter, vegan Grant Morrison, Scottish comic book writer Greg Cipes, actor and musician, vegan Greg German, actor Gregory Smith, Child Prodigy Gustave Flaubert, French novelist H.G. Wells, English writer Harriet Beecher Stowe, writer Hayden Panettiere, actress Hayley Mills, actress Heather Mills, model, celebrity, and activist, vegan Heather McAdams, author, cartoonist Heather Small, singer, vegan Helen and Scott Nearing, authors of The Good Life Henry David Thoreau, poet and writer Howard Lyman, former cattle rancher turned activist and author , vegan Hunter Burgan, musician and bassist of AFI, vegan Ian MacKaye, musician, vegan Ian McKellan, British actor from Lord of the Rings Immanuel Kant, philosopher India Arie, singer and songwriter Ingrid Newkirk, animal rights activist, vegan Ira Glass, NPR's This American Life Isa Chandra Moskowitz, punk rocker and vegan cookbook author , vegan Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel Prize winner Issa, musician from Good Clean Fun Jade Puget, guitarist of AFI James Cromwell, actor and animal rights advocate, vegan Jamie Kennedy, comedian and actor Jamie Lee Curtis, actress Jane Goodall, primatologist, educator, and animal rights advocate Jane Wiedlin, musician of the Go-Go's Jared Leto, actor and singer of 30 Seconds to Mars Jay Kordich, aka the Juiceman raw foodist JD Fortune, singer of INXS JD Salinger, American novelist Jean-Jacques Rousseau, philosopher Jeff Beck, guitarist Jenna Jameson, porn actress Jennifer Connelly, actress, vegan Jenny Lewis, singer and composer for Rilo Kiley Jenny Seagrove, actress Jeph Howard, musician and bassist for The Used Jeremy Cunningham, musician and bassist of Levellers Jesus Christ, Christian saint and mystic Jiddu Krishnamurti, spiritual teacher Eastern Indian Joan Armatrading, singer Joan Baez, American folk singer Joan Jett, punk rock musician and singer Joanne Rose, actor, vegan Joaquin Phoenix, actor, vegan Joe Principe, musician of Rise Against Joel, musician of Good Charlotte John Abraham, actor Bollywood John Cleese, British actor and comedian of Monty Python John Maxwell Coetzee, author/novelist John Feldmann, musician of Goldfinger, vegan John Lennon, Beatles singer and songwriter John McDougall Dr., physician and author John Melton, writer and politician John Norris, MTV personality John Peel, British DJ, vegan John Robbins, activist and author, vegan John Robb, musican and actor, vegan John Tesh, TV personality/host John Salley, NBA Champion Johnny Cash, country musician Johnny Marr, guitarist Jon Anderson, musician of Yes Jon Sevink, musician fiddle player of Levellers Jonathan Richman, musician and singer, vegan Jonathan Taylor Thomas, actor Jorja Fox, actress Josh Hartnett, actor Joss Stone, British musician Jovanotti (Lorenzo Cherubini), Italian singer/rapper Julianna Margulies, actress Julie Christie, English actress Kal Penn, actor K D Lang, singer, vegan Kate Bush, singer and songwriter Kate Winslet, actress Kathy Johnson, gymnast Keenan Ivory Wayans, actor and comedian Kelly Osbourne, daughter of Ozzy Osbourne Kenneth KB Charman, musician of Nonpoint Kevin Nealon, comedian and actor, vegan Killer Kowalski, professional wrestler Kim Basinger, actress Kirk Hammett, musician and guitarist of Metallica Krist Novoselic, musician, bassist for Nirvana Kirsten Johnson, actress Kristen Bell, actress KRS-One, musician Boogey Down Productions rapper Kurt Halsey, artist, vegan Kyle Vincent, singer and songwriter, vegan Lady Bunny, entertainer and drag queen Larry Hagman, actor Larry Mullen Jr, musician of U2 LaToya Jackson, sister of Michael Jackson Laura Nashman, musician Lauren Bush, niece of George W. Bush Leilani Munter, female race car driver Leo Tolstoy, Russian writer and philosopher Leonard Cohen, singer and songwriter Leonardo Da Vinci, Italian painter and inventor, vegan Leona Lewis, British Popstar, vegan Linda Blair, actress, vegan Linda Carter, actress known as Wonder Woman Linda McCartney, cookbook author and wife of Paul McCartney Lindsay Wagner, actress Lisa Bonet, actress Lisa Edelstein, actress Lisa Kudrow, actress Lisa Simpson, fictional cartoon character Lord Byron, writer Lori Petty, actress, vegan Louisa May Alcott, American writer Louise Burns, musician of Lillix Luke Cummo, contender in UFC Ultimate Fighter, vegan Lynda Stoner, actress, animal rights activist, vegan Ma'ari Abul Ala'a al, Arabian poet Mac Danzig, athlete, vegan Marc Lavoine, French singer Marcus Patrick, actor Marcus Schankenberg, supermodel Margi Coleman, singer and producer Maria Rosaria Omaggio, Italian actress Marilu Henner, actress and author Mark Millar, Scottish comic book writer Mark Twain, renowned American writer Martha Plimpton, actress Martin Shaw, actor, vegan Martina Navratilova, tennis player and legend, vegan Marty Feldman, comedian of Life of Brian Marv Levy, football coach Mary Shelley, novelist Mary Tyler Moore, actress Matthew Scully, conservative political speechwriter and author Melanie Griffith, actress Melissa Etheridge, musician, singer and songwriter Meredith Baxter, singer Michael Amott, musician and guitarist of Arch Enemys Michael Bolton, singer and songwriter Michael Eisner, entertainment businessman and former Disney CEO Michael Franks, jazz musician Michael Jackson, singer and The King of Pop Michael Guy Chislett, musician, of The Academy Is... Michel Sardou, French singer Mike Farrell, actor Mike Gordon, musician and bass player of Phish Milo Ventimiglia, actor Mireille Darc, French singer and actress Missy Higgins, Australian singer and songwriter Moby, musician and co-author, vegan Montserrat Caballe, Spainsh opera singer Morrissey, singer, vegan Mr.(Fred) Rogers, TV personality/host and educator Mr. Spock, fictional TV character of Star Trek Naomi Watts, actress Nastassja Kinski, actress Natalie Merchant, songwriter and singer of 10000 Maniacs Natalie Portman, actress, vegan Nathalie Baye, French actress Nellie McKay, actress, singer and songwriter Nelly, rap musician Nick Rhodes, musician of Duran Duran Nicole Lapin, Journalist, CNN Anchor, vegan Nikola Tesla, physicist and inventor Nina Hagen, German punk rock singer Noah Wyle and his wife Tracy, actor Nolwenn Leroy, French singer Norman Walker, doctor and longest lived raw foodist Ocean, Indie musician and singer, vegan Oleg Cassini, designer Oliver Stone, American film director Olivia Newton John, Australian singer and songwriter Omar Epps, actor Omar Hakim, singer, writer. and drummer Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, musician of The Mars Volta, vegan Orlando Bloom, actor Orlando Jones, actor Ornella Muti, Italian actress Pamela Anderson, actress Pamelyn Ferdin, actress and voice in Charlotte's Web, vegan Paramahansa Yogananda, spiritual teacher and yogi from East India Pat Neshek, professional baseball player, vegan Pat Thetic, musician and drummer of Anti-Flag, vegan Patrick Bauchau, actor Patrick Flanagan, childhood genius and scientist Patrick McDonnell, cartoonist and creator of Mutts Paul McCartney, musician, singer and songwriter, Beatles guitarist Paul Newman, actor and entreprenuer Pauly Shore, comedian and actor Percy Bysshe Shelley, writer Persia White, singer and actress, vegan Peter Gabriel, singer and songwriter Peter Max, artist Peter Sellers, actor and comedian Petra Nemcova, model Phil Lesh, musician and bass player of The Grateful Dead Phil Ramone, record producer Phylicia Rashad, actress Pierce Brosnan, actor Pink, American pop singer PJ Harvey, musician, singer and songwriter Plato, Greek philosopher and student of Socrates Plutarch, Greek philosopher Poly Styrene(Marion Elliot), musician of punk rock band X-ray Spex Porphyry, Greek philosopher Prince, musician, singer and songwriter Prince Fielder, professional baseball player- info Propagandhi Band, political punk rock band Ö all members, vegan Pythagoras of Samos, Greek mathematician of Pythagorean Theorem Quinn Allman, musician ot The Used, vegan Rabindranath Tagore, Eastern Indian philosopher Radha Mitchell, actress Raffi, musician childrens tunes Rainer Maria Rilke, writer Ralph Waldo Emerson, writer and poet Ramana Maharshi, Indian Saint and Spirtual Master Richard Gere, actor Richard Thompson, musician and songwriter Richie Havens, musician Ricki Lake, TV personality and actress Ricky Williams, professional football player Rider Strong, actor Rikki Rocket, musician and drummer of Poison, vegan Ringo Starr, musician and drummer of Beatles Rita Moreno, actress River Phoenix, actor, vegan Rivers Cuomo, singer of Weezer Robert Redford, actor and film producer Robin Gibb, musician of Bee Gees, vegan Rosa Parks, civil rights activist Ru Paul, entertainer, drag queen, and activist Ruben Studdard, American Idol singer Russel Simmons, music producer and co-founder Def Records, vegan Russel Brand, actor RZA, musician and producer of The Wu-Tang Clan Sade Adu, singer Sadie Frost, ex-wife of Jude Law (formerly vegetarian) Saint Angela Merici Saint Saint David, Christian Welsh Saint, vegan Saint Francesco d'Assisi, Saint Salim Stoudamire, athelete Samantha Eggar, actress Samuel L. Jackson, actor Sandra Bernhardt, comedian and actress Sant Kirpal Singh Ji, Indian Saint and mystic Sarahbeth Purcell, author Sarah Connor, fictional character from Terminator film Scott Adams, cartoonist and creator of 'dilbert' Scott Jurek, athlete, vegan Seal, singer and songwriter Seamus Davey-Fitzpatrick, actor Sean Conant, actor, vegan Sean Lennon, musician and son of Yoko and John Lennon Seba Johnson, Olympian, actress, and writer, vegan Serenity, actress and porn star Serge Raynaud de la Ferriere, Dr., founder of Universal Great Brotherhood Serj Tankian, musician of System of a Down Shane MacGowan, singer of The Pogues Shane Sweet, actor, vegan Shane Told, musician of Silverstein, vegan Shania Twain, American country singer Shannon Elizabeth, actress Sinead O'Connor, Irish singer, vegan Sir Isaac Newton, physicist Sir Stafford Cripps, British statesman Sky Valencia, model and founder of Vegan Vixens Socrates, Greek philsopher Sonya Fitzpatrick, aka the Pet Psychic Sophie Monk, Australian singer and actress Spike Milligan, comedian Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Spriritual leader Stella McCartney, designer and daughter of Paul McCartney Steve Bellamy, tennis coach and founder of The Tennis Channel Steve Freund, Blues musician Steve Howe, musician Steve Kilbey, singer and lyricist of The Church, vegan Steve Perry, musician Steve Vai, musician Stic.man, musician of Dead Prez , vegan Sue Coe, New York City artist Summer Phoenix, actress, vegan Superman/Clark Kent, fictional superhero Supreme Master Ching Hai, Spiritual leader, vegan Susan St. James, actress Susan B. Anthony, women's suffrage pinoeer Suzanne Vega, singer and songwriter Sydne Rome, actress Taran Noah Smith, actor Terry Geezer Butler, musician of Ozzy Osbourne Band, vegan The Roots, all veg band Thom Yorke, singer of Radiohead, vegan Thomas Alva Edison, renowned inventor Thora Birch, actress Tim Butler, musician of Psychedelic Furs Tim Commerford, musician of Rage Against the Machine, vegan Tim McIlrath, musician of Rise Against, vegan Tobey Maguire, actor Todd Oldham, American fashion designer Tom Lenk, TV actor of buffy vampire slayer villian Tom Morello, activist and guitarist of Rage Against The Machine Tom Scholz, musician and guitarist for Boston Tony Gonzales, NFL Star, vegan Tony LaRussa, baseball Tony Levin, musician Tracy Chapman, singer and songwriter Travis Barker, muscian and drummer of Blink 182 Tyrone Willingham, football coach of Notre Dame Uri Geller, actor and trick performer Valerie Harper, actress Valerie Kaprisky, actress Vanessa A. Williams, actress and dancer, vegan Vanna White, actress and TV personality Venkatesh Prasad, Cricketer Victoria Moran, author, vegan Vincent van Gogh, Dutch Post-Impressionist artist Voltaire, French writer and philosopher Wayne Static, singer of the metal group Static-X Weird Al Yankovic, comedian and musician, vegan Wendy Malick, actress of Just Shoot Me Wendy O'Williams, singer of Plasmatics Wendy Turner, artist Willem Dafoe, actor William Blake, writer William Shatner, actor William Clay Ford Jr., CEO of Ford Motor company Wolfgang Peterson, director Woody Harrelson, actor and environmental activist, vegan Yasmin Le Bon, supermodel Yoko Ono, artist and wife of Beatles John Lennon Zach Blair, musician of Rise Against Zearle, hip hop artist and poet . . . http://www.happycow.net/famous_vegetarians.html [ Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan.science,alt.food.vegan, [ talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian [ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:46:27 +0100 End of forwarded post from "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> Visit: http://www.pcrm.org Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 http://www.mantra.com/jai http://www.mantra.com/jyotish Om Shanti Thank you Jai. Because I was using this list to make a specific point, Albert Einstein's name was omitted. ('The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he appears to have supported the idea for many years before practising it himself. "So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that man was not born to be a carnivore." This was from a letter written to Hans Muehsam, and dated March 30, 1954, which was about 1 year before Einstein died. This indicates he adopted a vegetarian diet at the end of his life. Previously, on August 3, 1953 Einstein had written the following in a letter to Max Kariel, suggesting that he was still eating meat at that time: "I have always eaten animal flesh with a somewhat guilty conscience." - Einstein Archive 60-058 ..' http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html ) Also going back in - Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan. On th other hand, Bill Goldberg, world champion pro wrestler gets the boot. P.S, Jai... sorry to say that your posts aren't getting through to my newsreader (server) again. Reading this thru Groups. Namasthe, Jai Maharajji. Thanks. > A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Alan Ford, actor, British > Alanis Morissette, singer Albert Einstein, renowned scientist - info > Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician > Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist > Anthony Perkins, actor Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan - info > Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist > Aristotle, Greek philosopher [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Bernadette Peters, actress > Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan > Bill Pearl, bodybuilder > Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player [quoted text clipped - 490 lines] > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a vegetarian. now that clint eastwood is a veggie guy, what are all the proud gun owners waiting for? Thank you Jai. Because I was using this list to make a specific point, Albert Einstein's name was omitted. ('The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he appears to have supported the idea for many years before practising it himself. "So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that man was not born to be a carnivore." This was from a letter written to Hans Muehsam, and dated March 30, 1954, which was about 1 year before Einstein died. This indicates he adopted a vegetarian diet at the end of his life. Previously, on August 3, 1953 Einstein had written the following in a letter to Max Kariel, suggesting that he was still eating meat at that time: "I have always eaten animal flesh with a somewhat guilty conscience." - Einstein Archive 60-058 ..' http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html ) Also going back in - Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan. On th other hand, Bill Goldberg, world champion pro wrestler gets the boot. P.S, Jai... sorry to say that your posts aren't getting through to my newsreader (server) again. Reading this thru Groups. Namasthe, Jai Maharajji. Thanks. Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote: > A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Alan Ford, actor, British > Alanis Morissette, singer Albert Einstein, renowned scientist - info > Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician > Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist > Anthony Perkins, actor Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan - info > Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist > Aristotle, Greek philosopher [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Bernadette Peters, actress > Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan > Bill Pearl, bodybuilder > Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player [quoted text clipped - 490 lines] > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a > vegetarian. > now that clint eastwood is a veggie guy, what are all the proud gun owners > waiting for? Well, lets see. Is Cow Urine vegetarian or is it meat? Well in all the excitement I seem to have forgotten myself. So when you see that cow taking a leak, Jai, you just need to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? Vegetables: It's what food eats. > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a > vegetarian. [quoted text clipped - 598 lines] >>http://www.mantra.com/jyotish >>Om Shanti If we all became vegetarians, just think of the millions of animals that would never be born and get a chance to live at all. Millions of them have a descent life before they end up on the table with man feeding and taking care of them. Vegetarians deny them from having any life at all. > > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a > > vegetarian. :) > > now that clint eastwood is a veggie guy, what are all the proud gun owners > > waiting for? Uhuh. > If we all became vegetarians, just think of the millions of animals that > would never be born and get a chance to live at all. Millions of them > have a descent life before they end up on the table with man feeding and > taking care of them. Vegetarians deny them from having any life at all. Just think of all the tzillions of wild creatures that'd get their home back. >> > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a >> > vegetarian. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Just think of all the tzillions of wild creatures that'd get their home back. Just think of all the cattle that would then have to be slaughtered for nothing. You think farmers and ranchers are just going to keep feeding herds when they're not going to have a market for them? If you stop using all animal products, as the Vegans want, it will probably mean the extinction of most breeds of domestic cattle. > >> > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a > >> > vegetarian. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > for nothing. You think farmers and ranchers are just going to keep > feeding herds when they're not going to have a market for them? I imagine it would be a gradual transition, although fairly swift. Herds are already being reduced because of feed price increases. How? Farmers are reducing the numbers of animals being bred. > If > you stop using all animal products, as the Vegans want, it will > probably mean the extinction of most breeds of domestic cattle. I know a former "cattle" farmer who wants to keep a few animals to show his children that they can be valued and cared for, for life. So, no, it's unlikely that all "domestic breeds" will become extinct, but even if they did .. so what? Their original ecologically sound sturdy wild counterparts would once again be able to roam freely. <Cut Harmony flap> > If we all became vegetarians, just think of the millions of animals that > would never be born and get a chance to live at all. Millions of them have > a descent life before they end up on the table with man feeding and taking > care of them. Vegetarians deny them from having any life at all. Harmony forgot to list the most famous vegetarian, non-smoker, teetotaler of them all: Adolf Hitler. So much for her theory. > <Cut Harmony flap> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Harmony forgot to list the most famous vegetarian, non-smoker, teetotaler of > them all: Adolf Hitler. So much for her theory. Too bad Jeff Dahmer is out of the picture. Jay "harmony" Stevens would look pretty tasty to him! > <Cut Harmony flap> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Harmony forgot to list the most famous vegetarian, non-smoker, teetotaler > of them all: Adolf Hitler. So much for her theory. hey, i agree with felix on hitler. some times exceptions are needed to prove a rule. (but evil too some times may have a purpose in hitler. let's face it: would the humanity be free from colonialism if hitler had not bombed out west european empires? china still would be struggling with opium war problems. and usa would not have such great high standard of living from wonderful and cheap chinese imports. and mahatma gandi would have died in colonial prison unsung). > hey, i agree with felix on hitler. Of course you would. Only you LOSERS would think of Adolf Hitler as a hero to your idiotic dietary ways. Uh... he ATE Jews after he fried them in the camps, ya know. Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: [ Subject: Re: Hitler and Manson? [ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj [ Date: March 19, 1996 [ Message-ID: <thlTxQ9zB43V08...@mantra.com> [ Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,alt.fan.jai-maharaj [ [ In the article <4iia3m$...@rigel.pixi.com>, [ of 18 Mar 1996 00:17:58 UTC, [ Dick Allgire <direg...@pixi.com> wrote: [ > Hitler was NOT a vegetarian. He ate sausage. The Hitler was a [ > vegetarian myth is another of those false and ridiculous [ > assertions.... [ [ Indeed, it is a falsehood that Hitler was a vegetarian. This [ subject comes up on the Net quite regularly. A few previous [ posts show that Adolf Hitler was an animal-eater: [ [ ==== Post 1 =================================================== [ : [ : From: ao...@cc.keele.ac.uk (D.J. Battye) [ : Date: Fri Aug 25 04:46:56 HST 1995 [ : [ : [...] [ : According to The Rough Guide to the Czech Repubilic, every [ : time Hitler visited Prague he ate copious ammounts of the [ : local meat products. Therefore Hitler was not a vegetarian. [ : [...] [ : [ =============================================================== [ === Post 2 ==================================================== [ : [ : From: Robert Fone <rob...@bobcat.demon.co.uk> [ : Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 15:45:39 [ : [ : All the indications are that Hitler was not a vegetarian, [ : in fact, it would seem, they don't come much more [ : carnivorous than him, as you will see from the following: [ : [ : Quote 1: [ : [ : Richard H Schwartz (author of Judaism and Vegetarianism) [ : [ : 'Because Hitler suffered from excessive flatulence he [ : occasionally went on a vegetarian diet. But his primary [ : diet included meat. In The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler, [ : Robert Payne mentions Hitler's fondness for Bavarian [ : sausages. Other biographers, including Albert Speer point [ : out that he also ate ham, liver and game. Hitler banned [ : vegetarian organisations in Germany and the occupied [ : countries though vegetarian diets would have helped solve [ : Germany's World War II food shortage." [ : [ : Quote 2: [ : [ : Ralph Meyer (Jewish Historian) [ : [ : 'How can someone be a strict vegetarian and take injections [ : of pulverised bull testicles, as Hitler did? How can [ : someone be a strict vegetarian who ordered his enemies [ : "hung up like carcasses of meat", who urged the Hitler [ : youth to become "like beasts of prey", who said "it is not [ : by the principles of humanity that man lives, but by brute [ : force...close your eyes to pity...act brutally". Surely a [ : person who worshipped brutality and literally shrieked for [ : blood is the antithesis of a vegetarian.' [ : [ : So, all you wind-up merchants on this site - part of a [ : miserable group who always default to this sad old song [ : when all else is lost to you - better go and sign up for [ : your pulverised testicles, although I'm sure that, by the [ : sound of you, there are plenty of people who would [ : willingly pulverise yours for you. Perhaps then you would [ : like to eat them, since what you do (eat your fellow [ : creatures) is tantamount to Cannibalism anyway. [ : [ : I would like it to be noted that I have no problem with [ : carnivores who would willingly slaughter any creature - [ : including a dog or a cat - and devour it. If you would do [ : this, you are barbaric, and you have every right to live [ : your barbaric life to the full. However, if you are not [ : prepared to do this, then you are a hypocrite, and have no [ : right to insult the intelligence of those who are not [ : hypocrites, vegetarians are making a serious difference to [ : the planet in more ways than you could possibly imagine. [ : Your wisdom is poor, don't inflict it on those whose wisdom [ : has grown and blossomed. [ : [ : To associate vegetarianism with Hitler is the most gross [ : and cruel insult you could inflict and could only come from [ : one who is either fundamentally cruel or who is oblivious [ : to the true horror of Hitler's crimes against humanity. [ : You are obviously the former, and so are on the exact road [ : to vileness that you describe. [ : [ : Yours, [ : Coko Minesavegandtwoveg [ : rob...@bobcat.demon.co.uk [ : [ =============================================================== [ === Post 3 ==================================================== [ : [ : From: Tom Salsberg <az...@FREENET.TORONTO.ON.CA> [ : Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 18:36:46 -0500 [ : [ : Hitler was not a vegetarian. His doctor sometimes [ : prescribed that Hitler follow a vegetarian diet to improve [ : his health. Goebbels, the Propaganda Minister, took this [ : and twisted it to get people to think of the Fuerer as [ : another saintly man like vegetarian contemporary Mohandas [ : K. Gandhi (Mahatmah Gandhi). Gandhi, however, was the [ : complete opposite in that even when his doctor insisted on [ : him drinking beef tea for his health, Gandhi refused, while [ : Hitler cheated on his doctors orders and only pretended to [ : be a vegetarian, eating pasta stuffed with spicy beef [ : covered up with tomato sauce (ravioli). [ : [ : Refer to Dinshah, J. (1974, January). "Book nook". {A [ : review of Speer, A. (1970). **Inside the 3rd Reich**} [ : **Ahimsa**, p. 11. [Available from AVS, P.O. Box H, Malaga, [ : NJ 08328, USA]. [ : [ : Meyer, R. (1985). "Was Hitler a vegetarian?" **Vegetarian [ : Voice**, 12 (2), p. 6. [Available from NAVS, P.O. Box 72, [ : Dolgeville, NY 13329] [ : [ : Best wishes all! [ : Tom [ : [ : Tom Salsberg, B.Ed., M.A. (couns. psych.) [ : az...@freenet.toronto.on.ca [ : [ =============================================================== [ === Post 4 ==================================================== [ : [ : From: Vegetarian Resource Center <v...@tiac.net> [ : Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 13:41:27 -0800 [ : [ : My reading of the history is that Hitler was NOT truly a [ : vegetarian, unless the word "vegetarian" means someone who [ : only occasionally doesn't eat meat, like in between meals [ : and snacks. [ : [ : I suggest that serious students BEGIN their quest with [ : Prof. Rynn Berry's excellent start book, "Famous [ : Vegetarians." (Professor Berry teaches at Baruch [ : University in Brooklyn.) [ : [ : Maynard S. Clark v...@tiac.net i...@vegetarian.org [ : Vegetarian Resource Center, P. O. Box 38-1068, Cambridge, [ : MA 02238-1068 617-625-3790 (Voice, or Fax by arrangement) [ : 617-357-2596 (Facsimile) [ : [ =============================================================== [ === Post 5 ==================================================== [ : [ : From: Tom Salsberg <az...@FREENET.TORONTO.ON.CA> [ : Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:30:49 -0500 [ : [ : [...] [ : Correct. It is part of the Big Lie conducted by Minister of [ : Propaganda, Paul Joseph Goebbels, designed to make Hitler [ : look like the saintly contemporary, Mahatma Gandhi. [ : [...] [ : Yes. Check my original references given in my Master's [ : thesis paper **Vegetarianism as a means of increasing [ : social interest** : [ : [ : 1. Dinsha, H. J. (1974, January). Book nook. [Review of [ : Speer, A. (1970). **Inside the Third Reich**]. **Ahimsa**, [ : 2, 24 [Available from the American Vegan Society]. [ : [ : 2. Meyer, R. (1985). Was Hitler a vegetarian? **Vegetarian [ : Voice**, 12 (2), 6. [Available from the North American [ : Vegetarian Society]. [ : [ : Best wishes, [ : Tom [ : [ : Tom Salsberg, B.Ed., M.A. (couns. psych.) [ : az...@freenet.toronto.on.ca [ : [ =============================================================== [ [ Jai Maharaj [ http://www.mantra.com/jai [ Om Shanti [ [ > Subject: JESUS WAS A VEGETARIAN [ > From: use...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) [ > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 [ [ > In article <3fk275$...@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, [ > ptb...@wpi.edu (Pete Bastien) wrote: [ > > . . . I would like to see this evidence that Jesus [ > > was a vegetarian. . . . [ > [ > Please read what Tim Bush posted elsewhere: [ > [ > "For many Christians, major stumbling blocks are the belief [ > that Christ ate meat and the many references to meat in the New [ > Testament. But close study of the original Greek manuscripts shows [ > that the vast majority of the words translated as 'meat' and [ > 'trophe, brome,' and other words that simply mean 'food' or [ > 'eating' in the broadest sense. For example, in the Gospel of St. [ > Luke (8:55) we read that Jesus raised a woman from the dead and [ > 'commanded to give her meat.' The original Greek word translated as [ > 'meat' is 'phago,' which means only 'to eat.' The Greek word for [ > meat is kreas ('flesh'), and it is never used in connection with [ > Christ. Nowhere in the New Testament is there any direct reference [ > to Jesus eating meat. This is in line with Isaiah's famous prophecy [ > about Jesus's appearance, 'Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and [ > bear a son, and shall call him name Immanuel. Butter and honey [ > shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the [ > good.'" Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 http://www.mantra.com/jai http://www.mantra.com/jyotish Om Shanti In article <48b31003$0$4033$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted: > > <Cut Harmony flap> > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > cheap chinese imports. and mahatma gandi would have died in colonial prison > unsung). > Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: Some food religions go to great lengths to prove idiocy. >> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and used to enjoy telling his dinner guests at Berchtesgaden that the tasty stew they were enjoying was nothing more than "corpse soup." >>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: > > Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict > vegetarian, and used to enjoy telling his dinner guests at Berchtesgaden > that the tasty stew they were enjoying was nothing more than "corpse > soup." A lie, but what if true. He was no scientist and definitely not healthy. >>>Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: > Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, > and used to enjoy telling his dinner guests at Berchtesgaden that the tasty > stew they were enjoying was nothing more than "corpse soup." Hardly a veggy thing, eh? Adolf was a RETARD... just like Jay. What they ate means nothing. They BOTH (however) were mentaly ill people that relied on "mind readers!" > >>>Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hardly a veggy thing, eh? Hitler wasn't vegetarian. >>>>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >>> Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hitler wasn't vegetarian. Yes, he was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler > >>>>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: > >>> Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler I've read it. People who occasionally eat meat are *not* vegetarians. Simple as. End of. >>>>>>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >>>>> Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Simple as. End of. He was a vegetarian. Get over it. No one gives a sh.t if you approve. >>>>>>>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >>>>>> Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > He was a vegetarian. Get over it. No one gives a sh.t if > you approve. hitler did not cook for himself. his cook wasn't careful in not letting a few pieces of meat accidentally walk into his "vegetable soup" - like it happens in all restaurants in america. >>>>>>>>>Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > few pieces of meat accidentally walk into his "vegetable soup" - like it > happens in all restaurants in america. "Dr" Jay Stevens (aka) "Harmony" still thinks that Hitler was a great person. In talk.politics.guns "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> wrote: >> >>>>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >> >>> Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Simple as. End of. In his post-war reminiscence The Enigma of Hitler, Belgian SS General, and friend of Hitler's, Léon Degrelle wrote: "He could not bear to eat meat, because it meant the death of a living creature. He refused to have so much as a rabbit or a trout sacrificed to provide his food. He would allow only eggs on his table, because egg-laying meant that the hen had been spared rather than killed." Degrelle, Léon. "The Enigma of Hitler". "Friends of Léon Degrelle" Cultural Association. Retrieved on 2007-09-18. Sounds like a vegetarian to me. And even if he occasionally fell off the wagon, he was definitely a proponent of vegetarianism, so vegetarians must admit him into their august body as one of their heroes. > In talk.politics.guns "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Sounds like a vegetarian to me. Sounds like misascribed ideological gloss to me. > And even if he occasionally fell off the wagon, '..22 years old and living in Vienna, he first experimented with a vegetarian diet in an attempt to cure a chronic stomach ailment. ... Proctor describes Hitler as "a vegetarian, of sorts" who ate meat on occasion ... "I do not mean to spoil your appetite for stuffed squab, but you might be interested to know that it was a great favorite with Mr Hitler, who dined at the hotel often ... ate on the run, gnawing chunks of sausage ... Hitler almost became a vegetarian after the 1931 death of Geli Raubal ... [Frau Hess] said, Hitler never ate another piece of meat except for liver dumplings. ... Six years after Raubal's death, Hitler was still said to be eating the occasional dish of meat, including pork and fish eggs. ... After the war Rudolf Diels (who headed the early Gestapo for a year before narrowly avoiding execution) wrote that Hitler sometimes ate Bavarian Leberknödel (liver dumplings) but only when they were prepared by his photographer friend Heinrich Hoffmann.[7] ' - ibid. True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever. > he was definitely a > proponent of vegetarianism, so vegetarians must admit him into their > august body as one of their heroes. "Several of [Hitler's] biographers point to the influence of nationalist antisemitic composer, Richard Wagner." Beware composers and politicians. But most of all ... [snip] > > And even if he occasionally fell off the wagon, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever. "The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he appears to have supported the idea for many years before practising it himself." http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html "Albert Einstein.. took a tiny bite of meat once a year on a Jewish holiday to mollify his wife." http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Saints/Authors/Quotes/quotes5.htm So if you want to remove Hitler from your vegetarian heroes, you'll have to remove Einstein as well, since you claim that "true vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever". . On 27 Aug, 15:28, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote: [snip] > > And even if he occasionally fell off the wagon, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever. "The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he appears to have supported the idea for many years before practising it himself." http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html "Albert Einstein.. took a tiny bite of meat once a year on a Jewish holiday to mollify his wife." http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Saints/Authors/Quotes/quotes5.htm So if you want to remove Hitler from your vegetarian heroes, you'll have to remove Einstein as well, since you claim that "true vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever". Hardly comparable. Even if hitler were vegetarian, he'd be no hero. . [snip] > Hardly comparable. Even if hitler were vegetarian, he'd be no hero. No argument about Hitler not being a hero - he most decidedly was not one. The key point however, is: "Albert Einstein.. took a tiny bite of meat once a year on a Jewish holiday to mollify his wife." "True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever." Having second thoughts about your claim above, pearl? Dragonblaze > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Having second thoughts about your claim above, pearl? Did "Pearl" ever have oral sex? Some say: "You are what you eat." If so... I am glad to be a pussy! [..] >> "True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever." >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Some say: "You are what you eat." Exactly, and now would be a good time to learn that she eats egg and milk products from the animals she keeps. "I keep a nanny goat for milk, and have chickens if I want to eat eggs (I rarely do, but I have that option). I also have a string of 2x ponies" Pearl 30 Jan 2005 http://tinyurl.com/6y5xh3 She's an omnivore. On 28 Aug, 11:37, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote: [snip] > Hardly comparable. Even if hitler were vegetarian, he'd be no hero. No argument about Hitler not being a hero - he most decidedly was not one. The key point however, is: "Albert Einstein.. took a tiny bite of meat once a year on a Jewish holiday to mollify his wife." "True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever." Having second thoughts about your claim above, pearl? --- No, why should I. The reference is clearly to dietary habits, not to one yearly tiny bite as a salutary token of appeasment. > On 28 Aug, 11:37, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > No, why should I. The reference is clearly to dietary habits, > not to one yearly tiny bite as a salutary token of appeasment. "True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever." Those are your exact words. Note the 'any' and 'ever'. That does not refer to dietary habits. On 29 Aug, 13:48, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote: > "Dragonblaze" <dragonbl...@apexmail.com> wrote in messagenews:d7cd3e9c-8fc5-423a-945a-719fb1e49cfd@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > No, why should I. The reference is clearly to dietary habits, > not to one yearly tiny bite as a salutary token of appeasment. "True vegetarians don't eat any animal flesh, ever." Those are your exact words. Note the 'any' and 'ever'. That does not refer to dietary habits. --------- Within the context being discussed, which is uh.. dietary habits. You posted an exception to the "ever" rule, but it's still the rule. >> >>>Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hitler wasn't vegetarian. Your point? I hear vegetarians have a very difficult time following a joke. In talk.politics.guns "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote: >>> Adolf Hitler was a meat-eater: > >Lay off the fermented mango glue, Jay. Adolf Hitler was a strict vegetarian, >and used to enjoy telling his dinner guests at Berchtesgaden that the tasty >stew they were enjoying was nothing more than "corpse soup." The real question here is who is more deranged, Hitler or Jai. > <Cut Harmony flap> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Harmony forgot to list the most famous vegetarian, non-smoker, teetotaler of > them all: Adolf Hitler. So much for her theory. Benito Mussolini was also vegetarian. I know a number of gun owners who are vegetarian or vegan. Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 http://www.mantra.com/jai http://www.mantra.com/jyotish Om Shanti In article <48b2d8dd$0$4034$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted: > people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a > vegetarian. [quoted text clipped - 594 lines] > > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > > Om Shanti >people are so not bright; you don't have to be an einstein to become a >vegetarian. >now that clint eastwood is a veggie guy, what are all the proud gun owners >waiting for? There's room for all of God's creatures, right next to the potatoes and gravy. Tomatoes Potatoes Lettuce Celery Cabbage > Tomatoes > Potatoes > Lettuce > Celery > Cabbage Karen Ann Quinlan Terry Schiavo Ted Kennedy Ariel Sharon Ozzy Osbourne Stephen Hawking All Scientologists carrots On Aug 27, 8:43 am, obbzer...@yahoo.com wrote: > Karen Ann Quinlan > Terry Schiavo Namaste, Pearl ji, you may wish to write to the system administrator of your USENET provider about my posts not getting through to you. Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 http://www.mantra.com/jai http://www.mantra.com/jyotish Om Shanti In article <459f5809-4bf0-44f4-bcb5-d090041a9510@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, pearl <lilweed@esatclear.ie> posted: > Thank you Jai. Because I was using this list to make > a specific point, Albert Einstein's name was omitted. [quoted text clipped - 587 lines] > > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > > Om Shanti > Namaste, Pearl ji, you may wish to write to the system administrator > of your USENET provider about my posts not getting through to you. Certainly. > Jai Maharaj > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 > http://www.mantra.com/jai > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti Good post! Thanks for the information. Paul On Aug 25, 3:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: > A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS > [quoted text clipped - 547 lines] > Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti You missed ADOLF HITLER who was also a vegetarian! On Aug 25, 10:54 am, mud...@sympatico.ca wrote: > You missed ADOLF HITLER who was also a vegetarian! Mud: Josef Mengele was a Nazi SS MD! Was he also a vegetarian? Are all MD's Nazi SS? Excerpt From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Scholars agree that, in addition to being a teetotaler and a non- smoker,[1] Adolf Hitler practiced some form of vegetarianism.[2] The vegetarianism of Adolph Hitler is thought to have been based on Richard Wagner's anti-Semitic historical theories[3] which connected the future of Germany with vegetarianism.[4][5] Hitler believed that a vegetarian diet could both alleviate his personal health problems and spiritually regenerate the human race.[5] In spite of these beliefs, reports state that Hitler occasionally ate meat during the 1930s. While Hitler reduced his meat consumption, he may have not eliminated it entirely, with culinary accounts indicating a sporadic preference for sausage, squab, liver dumplings, ham, and caviar. > Excerpt From: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler There's also: http://www.geocities.com/hitlerwasavegetarian/ > > Excerpt From: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler > > There's also: > > http://www.geocities.com/hitlerwasavegetarian/ MT, That was a good article. Thanks, Paul Oops, the list is so long it would bring down the internet. Hmmmm Humans are omnivores. Humans are designed to eat meat. Substituting oils and proteins that are manufactured is a cop out. > Hmmmm > Humans are omnivores. > Humans are designed to eat meat. > Substituting oils and proteins that are manufactured is a cop out. 'There appears to be no threshold of plant-food enrichment or minimization of fat intake beyond which further disease prevention does not occur. These findings suggest that even small intakes of foods of animal origin are associated with significant increases in plasma cholesterol concentrations, which are associated, in turn, with significant increases in chronic degenerative disease mortality rates. - Campbell TC, Junshi C. Diet and chronic degenerative diseases: perspectives from China. Am J Clin Nutr 1994 May;59(5 Suppl):1153S-1161S. See: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm . >> Hmmmm >> Humans are omnivores. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > See: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm . Boy, are you WAAYYY out of touch with the generation of cholesterol. WAAYY out. Exactly what do you think cholesterol does? Also complete elimination of ant "fats" as you call them can actually decrease good cholesterol ( a requirement) In case you didn't know cholesterol does NOT cause heart failures. > >> Hmmmm > >> Humans are omnivores. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > In case you didn't know cholesterol does NOT cause heart failures. 'Plasma lipids and diet groups .. The most striking results from the analysis were the strong positive associations between increasing consumption of animal fats and ischemic heart disease mortality [death rate ratios (and 95% CIs) for the highest third of intake compared with the lowest third in subjects with no prior disease were 3.29 (1.50, 7.21) for total animal fat, 2.77 (1.25, 6.13) for saturated animal fat, and 3.53 (1.57, 7.96) for dietary cholesterol; P for trend: <0.01, <0.01, and <0.001, respectively]. In contrast, no protective effects were noted for dietary fiber, fish, or alcohol consumption. Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01 for both foods). .. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S [snip] > Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with > ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01 for > both foods). > ..http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose weight By Daily Mail Reporter Eating two eggs a day could help you lose weight and cut cholesterol levels, say researchers. Previously, there was thought to be a direct link between consuming cholesterol-rich foods such as eggs and an increase in blood cholesterol levels, which raises the risk of heart disease. But research to be published in The European Journal of Nutrition found that those who ate two eggs per day while on a calorie- restricted diet not only lost weight - but also reduced their cholesterol levels. A team from Surrey University, led by Dr Bruce Griffin, fed two eggs per day to almost 50 overweight but otherwise healthy volunteers for 12 weeks. They also had to follow a reduced-calorie diet recommended by the British Heart Foundation. Another group followed the same diet, but cut out eggs altogether. Both groups lost weight and saw a fall in the average level of blood cholesterol. Dr Griffin said: 'There is no convincing evidence to link an increased intake of dietary cholesterol or eggs with coronary heart disease. Indeed, eggs make a nutritional contribution to a healthy, calorie- restricted diet.' It is thought that eating eggs for breakfast contributes to weight loss by making people-feel fuller for longer. This research provides evidence to support the scientific consensus that saturated fat, found in pastry, processed meats, biscuits and cakes, is more responsible for raising blood cholesterol than cholesterol-rich foods, such as eggs, which are low in saturated fat. Britons eat 28million eggs a day - between two and three per person per week - one of the lowest intakes in the world. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049144/Eating-eggs-day-CUT-cholestero l-help-lose-weight.html i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs in their own diet. > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049144/Eating-eggs-day-CUT-cholestero l-help-lose-weight.html > i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs in > their own diet. Name one, you drunken slut. >> i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs >> in their own diet. > > Name one, you drunken slut. Actually, I could name several. >i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs >in their own diet. Yep, ignorance is there. More people are KILLED by cardiologists and their suggestions than any other profession. At least two to one. Be sure to take your statins. We are trying to reduce the population. >>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs >>in their own diet. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > other profession. > At least two to one. and how many are saved by them? why do you suppose dick chenney is still able to smile? > Be sure to take your statins. We are trying to reduce the population. for the success of your project: "be the change you want to see in others" - vegetarian mahatma gandhi >>>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs >>>in their own diet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and how many are saved by them? > why do you suppose dick chenney is still able to smile? AND? False science is still false science. I said KILLED by. Most saving is through surgeons. >>>>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun >>>>eggs in their own diet. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I said KILLED by. cardiologists for most part deal with highly advanced age group of people where further life expectacy is very short to begin with. even so, they are very helpful in providing improved quality life for that group. i see them in action often. however, the cardios could learn a few things about balanced veggie diet and yoga and tantra for more effectiveness. > Most saving is through surgeons. cardiologists do perform invasive surgical procedures. stents are so routine. >>>>>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun >>>>>eggs in their own diet. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > however, the cardios could learn a few things about balanced veggie diet > and yoga and tantra for more effectiveness. Try REAL HARD. I didn't say die in the care of. I said KILLED by. There really are cardiologist that have a 90% SUCCESS ratio. They don't use voodoo. None go for the veggie thing. Now they DO push for certain veggies and fruit and NOT at the exclusion of meats. The successful ones are very pro oily fish. The veggies / fruits are high in phytonutrients. >> Most saving is through surgeons. > > cardiologists do perform invasive surgical procedures. stents are so > routine. Some do. About one in 7. They almost never treat or consult except with regard to the surgery. > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose > weight .. > They also had to follow a reduced-calorie diet recommended by the > British Heart Foundation. > > Another group followed the same diet, but cut out eggs altogether. > Both groups lost weight and saw a fall in the average level of blood > cholesterol. Of course.. http://www.bhf.org.uk/keeping_your_heart_healthy/healthy_eating/what_is_a_health y_diet.aspx "A healthy diet contains plenty of fruit and vegetables and starchy foods such as wholegrain bread, pasta and rice; and is low in fat (especially saturated fat), salt and sugar. .. Fats Too much fat in your diet particularly saturated fat, can increase your blood cholesterol levels which can increase your risk of developing coronary heart disease. To help reduce your cholesterol level you should cut down on the total amount of fat you eat and replace saturated fats with monounsaturates and polyunsaturates and cut down on foods containing trans fats. " > Dr Griffin said: 'There is no convincing evidence to link an increased > intake of dietary cholesterol or eggs with coronary heart disease. 'EDITORIAL Egg consumption in relation to cardiovascular disease and mortality: the story gets more complex1,2 Robert H Eckel1 1 From the University of Colorado Denver, Aurora, CO .. More egg on our faces? It's really hard to say at this point, but it still seems, if you're a middle-aged male physician and enjoy eggs more than once a day, that having some of the egg left on your face may be better than having it go down your gullet. In this issue of the Journal, Djoussé and Gaziano (1) have calculated an adjusted hazard ratio of 1.41 for all-cause mortality over a 20-y span in 21 327 Harvard-educated male physicians who ate 1 egg/d. It is important that a pattern of less frequent intake did not influence risk. However, if diabetes was coexistent in these health care professionals, a trend existed across a broader range of egg consumption. .. It is of interest that the trend to higher risk in subjects with diabetes begins at lower egg (yolk cholesterol) intakes. The expected effect on plasma LDL cholesterol would be expected to be small. ..' http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/87/4/799 >> [snip] >> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > ..' > http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/87/4/799 Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in the blood. > Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in > the blood. 'Heart Disease Information Dr. Michael Klaper graduated from the University of Illinois College of Medicine in Chicago in 1972. He Served his medical internship at Vancouver General Hospital in British Columbia, Canada and took under took additional training in surgery, anesthesiology, orthopedics and obstetrics at the University of California Hospitals in San Francisco. Below is an excerpt of an article on atherosclerosis by Dr. Klaper: "My nutritional awakening began when I was on the cardiovascular anesthesia service, and that's the service that deals with people's hearts and blood vessels. And one evening I was making rounds to see a patient who was scheduled for a four-vessel coronary by-pass several days hence and the man had been out on a day-pass with his family before surgery, quite a common practice. He had returned to the hospital rather late and the nurse notified me that there were several blood tests that were missing off his chart that we needed to repeat and so she asked if I would draw blood on the man, which I happily did. And I drew some of his blood into a glass tube and I brought it to the nurse's station and I let it sit there while I got busy with some work in the ward and an hour and a half latter I went back to the nurse's station to take the blood tube down to the laboratory, and what I saw in the blood tube gave me a rude awakening. When you draw blood into a glass tube and allow it to sit there for a couple of hours, it separates out into two parts. Here is normal blood on the left and you see the red clot on the bottom and the clear liquid serum has risen up to the top. The serum should be transparent, you should be able to see through normal serum. However, the blood in my patient's tube looked very different. The serum that was floating on top of his clot was thick and greasy white, it looked like ivory glue when I shook the tube, the serum stuck to the sides of the tube. I went back into the room. I said, "Sir, before you came back to the hospital tonight, did you stop off anywhere from dinner?" He said, "Yes" I said, "Where?" and he said he had stopped at his local gourmet restaurant and he had his usual fare, and I said, "What did you have?" "Well I had a double-bacon steerburger' with extra cheese and a milkshake," a common offering at such institutions. And at that point when he said that, I realized what I was looking at in his blood tube. What was all the floating on top of his blood tube, was all the beef-fat in the burger, it was all the butterfat in the cheese, it was the butterfat in the ice-cream, it was the egg yoke fat that was in the mayonnaise that was slathered on the bun. All the fat that this man had eaten had oozed out into his bloodstream and turned his blood fatty. This is a well known phenomenon, it is called lipima and it happens every time you eat a fatty meal, a wave of fat goes through your bloodstream. Not everybody shows it this optically densely, but everyone has a wave of fat going through their bloodstream after a fatty meal, how can it be any other way?" .. I went back to my patient and discussed a bit about his dinner, but there was not much to say because the fat was already in his blood. What was especially disturbing to me however, was several days later we took him down to the operating room. I gave the man a thousand micrograms of pheontonel and put him to sleep, and the surgeon opened up his chest and opened up his coronary arteries, and from this man's coronary arteries he began pulling yellow, greasy, waxy, fatty deposits that look like this: [o] What you are looking at is the plug of fat that built up in a man's right coronary artery. The artery was a tube coming out at you from the screen. The artery wall has been cut away and you are looking at the plug of fat that built up. The fat started out at the outer edges of the artery wall and as the months and years go by of these repeated tides of fat flowing through the arteries, the fat starts building up on the inside of the arteries like scale builds up in the inside of a hot water pipe. And as the months and years went by the fat crowded in and crowded in on his blood flow channel till finally only the small dark area was left for the blood to flow through and when a clot formed here it stopped the blood flow the his heart, stopped his heart and bought him a ticket to the autopsy table. This is the number one cause of death in western societies. In North America every thirty seconds someone grabs their chest and falls over with a heart attack because this greasy material is clogging up arteries to their heart. This disease is called atherosclerosis, the number one cause of death and disease in western societies. [ ] Saturated fat and cholesterol being removed from a coronary artery in a patient's heart This material is quite remarkable. When you send it down to the pathologist and you ask him to do a chemical analysis the report always comes back the same, saturated fat and cholesterol, essentially it's animal fat. The report from the pathologist never, ever, ever contains the words remnants of broccoli, rice and tofu. The good news is this stuff will melt away. If you clean up your diet and start taking a walk everyday, and get rid of some of the stress that builds up within you, this is a reversible disease and will melt away. ...' http://www.newveg.av.org/optimum.htm >> Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in >> the blood. What a stupid story having nothing to do with cholesterol and probably an outright lie. Of course, in your ignorance you don't know that statins cause more harm and the "jelly" can be there with 170 or 370 cholesterol. If it existed as you CLAIM, policosanol would be a solution. > >> Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in > >> the blood. > > What a stupid story having nothing to do with cholesterol and probably an > outright lie. This has to be a troll. > Of course, in your ignorance you don't know that statins cause more harm and > the "jelly" can be there with 170 or 370 cholesterol. > If it existed as you CLAIM, policosanol would be a solution. > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose > weight Real research has proven such about at least one whole egg a day. > By Daily Mail Reporter > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049144/Eating-eggs-day-CUT-cholestero l-help-lose-weight.html >>[snip] >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Real research has proven such about at least one whole egg a day. "Vegetarians" can NOT eat even ONE egg, EVER, as it an embryo that came out of the a.s end of A NON/or FLYING FEATHERED or Leathered critter! Breast milk is also a "no-no" as well, as it too is derived from an animal AND therefore... Animal stuff! See how Foolish your pathetic system is? Yet you "hindu's" drink yer own urine... marry snakes, dogs, and other creatures for honor, and worship cows instead of eating them, while your HUGE stump stupid population starves to death in India.. .all because of a silly mutant "god" with a sh.t load of arms. >>>[snip] >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > HUGE stump stupid population starves to death in India.. .all because of a > silly mutant "god" with a sh.t load of arms. I'm not Hindu and I can follow a thread. There are thousands dying from urine infested river water.. They also eat insects (not veggie) >>>>[snip] >>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>HUGE stump stupid population starves to death in India.. .all because of a >>silly mutant "god" with a sh.t load of arms. > I'm not Hindu and I can follow a thread. Obviously not! So the f.ck what, anyway? Are you a "REAL" Vegetarian" or not? > There are thousands dying from urine infested river water.. Not my problem. EAT the cows, before they and you drink the piss from the source! > They also eat insects (not veggie) High in protien! So again, What is it with you that hates big tits filled with milk ,like nature intended, as well as a nice steak and lobster dinner? >>>>>[snip] >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > So the f.ck what, anyway? > Are you a "REAL" Vegetarian" or not? Not now or ever. I love every vegetable and fruit, especially raw or lightly cooked, BUT I eat practically any kind of meat. Favorites All sea food Lamb >> There are thousands dying from urine infested river water.. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So again, What is it with you that hates big tits filled wi |
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