On Aug 21, 2:01 pm, Kevysmom <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Oh, please do post proof that 'Genital Warts' is a 'serious side
effect' of Gardasil.

She just did!!  Can you not read?

 If Gardasil is given to females BEFORE they are
sexually active, either the girls lied about their previous sexual
activity (or perhaps got immediately 'active' after the vaccination)
or the naive parents of these 78 'virgins' need some serious
counseling.

I love this particular lie.  You can go back through the posting
history of it and watch it mutate (always growing, of course) over
the years.

+- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+

No.  Because most of the side-effects that aren't reported are
horrible things like sore arms.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "There are two kinds of Republicans:  millionaires and suckers."
                                                     -- John Dolan

I've been trying to figure out how the anti-vaccination liars hatred
of children applies to their opposition to the HPV vaccine. The best I
can come up with is that cervical cancer can lead to hysterectomy,
therefore preventing children from even being born, so the AVLs are in
favour of more women getting the disease.

Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 3:01 pm, Kevysmom <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Temporal concidence does not equate with causation.

Typical of the *gang*.

For instant:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/thread/9c4d
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"Mark Probert" <Mark Prob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Pointing out there is no danger is a LIE.

The FACTS were just posted.

5. Dental amalgam emits dangerous levels of mercury. In fact,
according to a 1991 WHO report, dental amalgam constitutes the major human
exposure to mercury.1 Grams of mercury are in the mouth of individuals with
several amalgam fillings. Also, the level of blood and urine mercury
positively correlates with the number of amalgam fillings.2 It would be
quite informative to require that the American Medical Association (AMA) be
required to evaluate the state of mercury toxicity caused by dental amalgams
and make a report regarding this issue. The lack of AMA support for the ADA
contention on amalgam safety says something.

     6. Careful evaluation of the amount of mercury emitted from a commonly
used dental amalgam in a test tube with 10 ml of water was presented in an
article entitled "Long-term Dissolution of Mercury from a
Non-Mercury-Releasing Amalgam."3 This study showed that "the overall mean
release of mercury was 43.5 ± 3.2 micrograms per cm2 /day, and the amount
remained fairly constant during the duration of the experiments (2 years.)"
This was without pressure, heat or galvanism as would have occurred if the
amalgams were in a human mouth. To be fair, this amalgam contained about 66%
mercury compared to about 50% in most amalgams in use. The importance of
this publication is that the discovery of the tremendous amount of mercury
released from this amalgam material was not discovered by NIDCR, FDA, ADA,
CDC or any other American research group. It came from the University of
Singapore. Why hasn't the ADA or FDA or DCD done similar studies on every
amalgam preparation used in the USA today? In my laboratory we have done
this on several aged amalgams made from one conventional, widely used
amalgam company. The results indicated that about 4.5 micrograms Hg/cm2/ day
was released without abrasion, but this increased to about 47
micrograms/cm2/day with two 30 second brushings with a toothbrush.
Therefore, the question remains, who is protecting the American public from
adverse exposures to mercury? It appears as if those who should be doing
this job are failing to do so. Having an unbiased research group repeat the
study above on all ADA approved amalgam materials would be very informative
and I strongly recommend that this be done even though doing this is was not
supported by the ADA spokesperson at a past Congressional hearing on this
issue.

     Recent research has shown that the birth hair of normal children
increase in mercury content with increasing dental amalgams in the birth
mother (A. Holmes, M. Blaxill and B. Haley, Reduced Levels of Mercury in the
First Baby Haircuts of Autistic Children, in press, International J.
Toxicology v22#4, 2003.) In contrast, autistic children have much lower
levels of mercury in their birth hair, yet due to numerous reports have
elevated mercury in their bodies on mercury challenge testing. This strongly
indicates that a subset of the population does not have the ability to
excrete mercury even if it is from low chronic daily exposure from dental
amalgam.

     7. Furthermore, due to the substantial amounts of mercury in amalgams,
it is the number of amalgams that controls the amount of mercury exposure
and this is likely not significantly affected by the length of time each
amalgam is in the mouth.4 Put another way, since each large amalgam (i.e.
those with 0.5 and 1.0 grams of mercury) contains between 500,000 to
1,000,000 micrograms of mercury, and if mercury were estimated to be
released at a high rate of 10 micrograms a day from each amalgam, it would
take between 137 and 274 years before any individual amalgam is completely
depleted of its mercury content. A small amalgam with 0.1 grams of mercury
would take 27.4 years for depletion at this rate. Also, there is a high
variance which is influenced by the surface area of the amalgam, its copper
content, its location and the individual's eating and grinding habits, and
rate of acidity, as noted herein. However, even at very conservative
estimates, these figures equate to a substantial amount of chronic
(continuous, daily) mercury exposure over a sustained, prolonged period of
time. I think it is imperative that the ADA provide detailed research that
demonstrates that amalgams MADE OUTSIDE THE MOUTH DO NOT RELEASE MERCURY ON
REASONABLE ABRASION AS WOULD BE EXPECTED ON CHEWING FOOD OR DRINKING HOT
DRINKS. The ADA and other supporters of amalgam refuse to do these studies
or fund these studies even though several refereed journal reports list
solutions in which amalgams have been soaked as "severely cytotoxic."

     8. About 80% of the mercury vapor from amalgams is readily taken up by
the human body and distributed to various organs. Very little, if any, of
the mercury vapors are exhaled; the vapors as well as mercury particles are
absorbed into the lungs and body tissues. Through the lungs, for instance,
mercury enters the bloodstream where it has access to all of the major
organs; of particular concern are the kidneys and the central nervous
system.5 For example, studies have been performed where amalgams containing
radioactive mercury were placed in sheep and monkeys, showed the
radioactivity collecting in all body tissues and especially high in the jaw
and facial bones.6 Human studies are also supportive.7

     9. Even more concerning is the synergistic toxicity effects of other
elements in amalgams, which increase the toxicity of mercury. For example,
Zinc (or Zn) is a needed element for body health and is found in very low
percentages in dental amalgams when compared to mercury. However, Zn+2 is a
synergist that enhances mercury toxicity. Studies have shown that solutions
in which amalgams have been soaked were "severely cytoxic initially when Zn
release was highest."8 (see also, Lobner & Asrari, Neurotoxicity of Dental
Amalgam is Mediated by Zinc. J. Dental Research v82#3, 243, 2003.) We have
repeated similar amalgam soaking experiments in my laboratory. Cadmium (from
smoking), lead, zinc and other heavy metals enhanced mercury toxicity as
expected. This is a well know phenomena in toxicology as it has been
reported many years ago in a study on determining the lethal dose (LD) that
"the administration of an essentially no-response level (LD-1) of a mercury
salt together with a 1/20 of the LD-1 of a lead salt killed all of the
animals." If the toxicity were additive only 1 to 2 rats of 100 should have
died, instead 100% died. (J. Shubert, E. Riley & S. Tyler. Combined Effects
in Toxicology--A Rapid Systemic Testing Procedure: Cadmium, Mercury and
Lead. J.Toxicology and Environmental Health v4, p763, 1978.) What the data
from several studies clearly shows is that no one can state what is a "safe"
level of mercury exposure without knowing the concentration of all other
factors that may synergistically exacerbate mercury toxicity.

     10. Synergistic effects on ethylmercury is demonstrated by the
dramatic enhancements of thimersosal toxicity against neurons in culture by
aluminum cation (Al3+), antibiotics and testosterone. Al3+ is another
component of vaccines and dramatically increases the killing of neurons by
thimerosal. Testosterone, at low nanomolar levels is not noticeably toxic to
neurons. However, if testosterone is present with low nanomolar levels of
thimerosal the rate of neuron death is greatly enhanced, more so than with
Al3+. This likely explains the 4 to 1 ratio of boys to girls that become
autistic and the fact that most of the severe cases of autism are boys. This
involvement of testosterone in autism is further supported by the work of
Dr. Baron Cohen of England who studied the amniotic fluid of mothers who
gave birth to autistic children. The only abnormality he found was that
their amniotic fluid contained elevated testosterone. It is likely that this
early elevated testosterone level rendered these children at enhanced risk
for ethylmercury neurotoxicity.

     11. There are two common misconceptions fostered by pro-amalgam
supporters concerning mercury amalgam filings: (1) that the mercury in
dental amalgam is all chemically bound and not released at significant
rates; and (2) that amalgam mercury is in a form that is biologically
inactive. We have tested this in a direct fashion in my laboratory by
soaking amalgams in distilled water and then testing these solutions for
toxicity in a manner similar to our testing of solutions known to contain
specific amounts of Hg2+. The results were unequivocal, solutions in which
amalgams were soaked for only one hour gave very similar effects on
inhibiting the activity of tubulin and creatine kinase, two enzymes
previously reported to be greatly inhibited in Alzheimer's diseased brain as
compared to age-matched normal brain (B. Haley, The Relationship of the
Toxic Effects of Mercury to Exacerbation of the Medical Conditions
Classified as Alzheimer's Disease, Nordisk Tidsskrift for Biologisk Medisin,
2003.) Therefore, amalgams likely created a cytotoxic environment in situ as
report by others also.

     12. By definition, an amalgam is a mixture of uncharged metal powders
in elemental form that is mixed with liquid mercury to form an emulsion that
hardens with time. Amalgams are not an alloy similar to steel or bronze.
Furthermore, in the case of dental amalgam, all of the elements that are
used to form amalgam have totally filled electron shells and form what is
known as metallic bonds. Mercury is a liquid because it makes very weak
metallic bonds, even with other metals, and this bonding is reversible
allowing bound mercury to become unbound and escape as a vaporous atom, Hg0,
at a rate that is significant. As such, there does not exist an irreversible
covalent bond between mercury and the other metals that is caused by two
elements binding to fill in shells with missing electrons. This means that,
unlike most chemically bound molecules, the elements that are mixed in an
amalgam do not lose their individual elemental properties on release from
the amalgam, unless this release is caused by electro-galvanism. Simply put,
mercury vapor emitting from amalgams does not lose any of its toxicity
because it was at one time inside of a dental amalgam. As shown in study
after study, mercury vapor is emitted from amalgams at substantial and toxic
amounts, and is then distributed within the human body. The claims made by
ADA spokesperson, even by one past director for the NIDCR, that mercury in
amalgams is like sodium in table salt, or like hydrogen in water, represent
what would be considered as preposterous by anyone knowledgeable in freshman
level general chemistry.

     13. As to the second misconception, all of the metal elements in
amalgam, including mercury, are not biologically inactive. As noted in
numerous studies, some of which are cited herein, mercury emits from
amalgams on a 24 hour a day basis.9 The emissions are increased based on the
introduction of hot substances, such as beverages (coffee and the sort),
with chewing (such as chewing gum or food) and with galvanism as Hg (the
simple electrical current set up between different metals in the mouth and
ionic saliva.) Additionally, numerous interactions cause the scratching of
the amalgams, again causing an increase in mercury vapor emissions. This
includes the grinding of teeth. Once the mercury vapor is emitted it enters
the body and is converted to toxic Hg2+ inside of cells by a specific enzyme
(catalyase). In the blood it is carried to various organs, including, but
not limited to, the brain as supported by various studies, some of which are
cited herein. Based on this, mercury vapor from dental amalgams cannot be
said to be biologically inactive as it is rapidly converted to a toxic form
once inside a cell.

     14. Equally unsupportable, scientifically, is any "estimate" that
amalgams emit mercury at minute amounts under a tenth of a microgram per day
as suggested by an ADA pro-amalgam spokesperson at the last congressional
Hearing. Applying simple math to this "estimate" of 0.1
micrograms/day/amalgam confirms this inaccuracy. If one would divide the 0.1
microgram/day amount by 8, 640 (24 hours/day X 60 minutes/hour X 6 ten
second intervals/minute) to calculate the amount of mercury in micrograms
available for a ten second mercury vapor analysis. This equals 1.16 X 10-5
micrograms total. Assume the oral cavity is somewhere between 10cm3 to 100
cm3 volume (note that 1 milliliter equals 1 cm3) then 1.16 X 10-6
micrograms/cm3 or 1.16 X 10-7micrograms/cm3 would be obtained from a single
amalgam. Note that the conventional vapor sniffer reads at its lowest
setting about 10 micrograms/meter3 or 10 micrograms/ 1,000,000 cm3 or
0.000001 or 10-6 micrograms/cm3. Therefore, the readings from 0.1 microgram
mercury released/day/amalgam in a 10 second reading would give values in a
10 cm3 oral volume that are barely if at all detectable. In a 100 cm3 oral
volume it would take about 8-9 fillings to get a minimal reading on a vapor
sniffer. This indicates that it would almost be impossible to detect mercury
emitting from one amalgam or several if the "estimate" of the ADA
spokesperson were accurate.

     However, the mercury vapor sniffer has been used by numerous
individuals to detect mercury vapor in a human mouth or oral volume, and in
my opinion the levels reported would underestimate the amount of mercury
emitting from a single amalgam because of the following. Consider that
somewhere between one-half to five-sixths of the mercury released would
enter the body through the tooth (that area of the amalgam that exists below
the visibly exposed amalgam surface) and not into the oral air. While the
margins between a tooth and an amalgam filling are small they are large
compared to an atom of mercury vapor. So mercury does enter readily through
this route. In addition, some mercury in the oral air would be rapidly
absorbed from the air into the saliva and oral mucosa since mercury is a
lipophilic (or hydrophobic) vapor. This mercury would not be measured by the
mercury analyzer and yet would enter the body. Further, as the mercury
analyzer pulls mercury containing oral air into the analysis chamber,
mercury free ambient air rushes into the oral cavity decreasing the mercury
concentration.

     Taking all of this into account one can calculate that most mercury
analyzers could not detect this "estimated" 0.10 micrograms/day level of
mercury even if the test subject had several amalgams. However, it is quite
easy to detect mercury emitting from one amalgam using these analyzers.
Therefore, it is impossible for daily emissions from amalgam to be anything
less than the detection limits of an analyzer in a 10 second test.
Separately, if amalgam is gently rubbed with a toothbrush the amount of
mercury emitted, as measured by a commercial mercury vapor sniffer,
increases dramatically. As I have cited herein, mercury emissions from
amalgams increase substantially when hot liquids are introduced or when the
individual is chewing.10

     15. Additionally, it is also important to note that measurement of
mercury emissions by a mercury vapor analyzer in the human mouth tends to
greatly underestimatethe amount of mercury exiting the amalgam as it does
not measure much of the mercury that is rapidly absorbed in saliva and oral
mucosa. Also, as the analyzer pulls mercury contaminated air out of the
mouth, mercury concentrations are also decreased as mercury free ambient air
rushes in the oral cavity.

     16. It is also important to note that when it comes to amalgam
fillings, the concern is chronic, not acute, exposures. Basically, in the
case of an acute exposure, one would be exposed to a large amount of mercury
in a single dosage that, in and of itself, may or may not be toxic. In the
case of chronic exposures, while an individual exposure may not be toxic,
the concern is the sum of the exposures. With amalgams, the exposure is
constant, 24 hours a day (chronic), and increases with the introduction of
various elements, such as chewing and the like, and also the introduction of
other chemicals which may act synergistically with mercury. Furthermore,
mercury accumulates within the human body in various organs and remains
there for prolonged periods of time as a "retention toxicity." A "retention
toxicity" from mercury differs from most conventional toxicities as the
toxin is not removed, but remains and builds up. For example, getting drunk
or alcohol toxic one night, the toxicity is cleared by the body as it
metabolizes the alcohol to other compounds. Mercury, being an element cannot
be metabolically changed and, most importantly, forms a long-term attachment
(or covalent bond) with proteins inside of cells and organelles, causing
what is called retention toxicity as the level of mercury can build up with
continuous chronic exposure.

     In fact, mercury has been shown to remain in human organs for years
after initial exposure accumulating in the brain, kidney, and lung.11
Specific to amalgam and the central nervous system, low doses of mercury
vapor enter and remain within motor neurons for prolonged periods of time.
According to various studies, these are levels well within the WHO
guidelines for occupational exposure.12 Simply put, these published studies
show that amounts of mercury that are considered within safe limits reaches
the central nervous system, and accumulates to toxic levels via "retention
toxicity." Mercury can be lodged in various organs causing toxicity for a
prolonged period of time. This is of particular concern with amalgams, as
mercury continuously accumulates in a given subject for years, adding up to
potentially toxic levels in many individuals, including, as noted below, the
developing fetus.

     17. Any claim on the part of the ADA or established dental
organizations that a zinc oxide layer is formed on the amalgams that
decreases mercury release can only be true if an individual is not using his
or her teeth. Note that zinc is listed at "trace levels" in amalgams. How
can trace levels cover the 50% mercury? However, in the real world, any zinc
oxide layer is easily removed by slight abrasion such as chewing food or
brushing the teeth. Further, my laboratory has confirmed that solutions in
which amalgams have been soaked can cause the inhibition of brain proteins
that are inhibited by adding mercury chloride, and these are the same
enzymes inhibited in AD brain samples.

     18. Even more concerning is that at least some of the inorganic
mercury that is emitted from amalgams is converted to methylmercury, a more
toxic, organic form of mercury.13 This strongly indicates that "organo
mercury species" are indeed capable of being made in the human body and
likely explains the appearance of methylmercury in the blood and urine of
individuals who do not eat seafood, but do have amalgam fillings.

     19. The bottom line is that amalgams emit significant levels of
neurotoxic mercury that are injurious to human health and would exacerbate
the medical condition of those individuals with neurological diseases such
as Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis ("ALS" or "Lou Gehrig's Disease") 14 ,
Multiple Sclerosis ("MS"), Parkinson's, autism and Alzheimer's Disease
("AD"). For example, mercury inhibits the same enzymes in normal brain
tissues as are inhibited in Alzheimer's Disease.15 AD is pathologically
confirmed post-mortem by the appearance of neuro-fibillary tangles (NFTs)
and amyloid plaques in brain tissue. Published research, within the past
year, has shown that exposure of neurons in culture to sub-lethal doses of
mercury (much less than is observed in human brain tissue) causes the
formations of NFTs,16 the increased secretion of beta-amyloid protein and
the hyper-phosphorylation of a protein called Tau.17All three of these
mercury-induced aberrancies are regularly identified by world class scholars
as the major diagnostic markers for AD. Yet the ADA states there is no
scientific data published to indicate that mercury from amalgams could
contribute to these diseases.

     20. Furthermore, mercury from amalgams is transferred from a pregnant
mother to the developing fetus, causing increased mercury body burden in
children solely based on the presence of amalgams in the mother.18 Mercury
exposure is even more devastating to the developing brain than to an adult
brain. This has been shown in study after study culminating with the recent
publication by Dr. Lorscheider, et al., showing brain neuron degeneration
from small amounts of mercury and conclusively proving that such
degeneration does not occur with the introduction of any other element,
including lead.19 The research mentioned above on the levels of mercury in
the birth-hair of children increasing with the mother's amalgam clearly
demonstrates that mercury from dental amalgams enters the child in utero as
has been previously reported.

     21. Also, low level exposures like those associated with amalgam
fillings and the resultant increase in the mercury body burden are toxic to
the central nervous system.20 These can cause from severe to subtle
neuropsychological functions such as depression of performance, intellectual
functioning, impairments of attention, impairment of short-term memory
function, visual judgment of angles and directions, psychomotor retardation
and personality changes. As further proof that these are mercury related,
scientists have shown that in some cases, the effects can be reversed simply
by removal of the source of mercury intoxication, together with proper
medical treatment. 21 Mercury from fillings also leads to "considerable
concentrations of [mercury] in the olfactory bulbs."22 This may also explain
the phenomena of Alzheimer's patients losing their sense of smell in the
early stages of the disease. (Kovacs, T., Cairns, N.J., Lantos, P.L.
Olfactory Centres in Alzheimer's disease: Olfactory bulb is Involved in
Early Braak's Stages. Neuroreport 12(2): 285-288, 2001 and Gray, A.J.,
Staples, V., Murren, K., Dahariwal, A. and Benthan, P. Olfactory
Identification is Impaired in Clinic-Based Patients with Vascular Dementia
and Senile Dementia of Alzheimer's type. Int. J. Geriatr. Psychiatry 16 (5):
513-517, 2001.)

     22. Mercury from dental fillings has also been associated with adverse
effects in the cardiovascular system, including high blood pressure, low
heart rate, low hemoglobin, and low hematocrit. 23

     23. Many of the experiments that show mercury emission and exposure
from dental amalgams are so simple and inexpensive to do that they could
have should have been completed many years ago, in the 1950's and 60's. Yet,
they have not been done, or at least not reported on, despite numerous
requests by concerned citizens by the agencies and bureaucracies that today
testify that amalgams are safe. This includes the ADA and dental branch of
the FDA. It is important to note that I do not hold the entire FDA
responsible for the actions of the dental branch of the FDA. Other
researchers also doing these tests do not find amalgams safe based on the
continuous, chronic release of mercury. The fact that both the national
Academy of sciences and the EPA warn the government of the dangers of the
level of mercury found in Americans and the NIH and WHO studies that
amalgams are the major contributor to the mercury body burden of humans.
Couple this with the certain fact that mercury, and only mercury of the
toxic metals, can mimic the aberrant biochemistry and produce the components
of the widely accepted diagnostic hallmarks of Alzheimer's disease and it
should be obvious that all exposures to mercury should be held to the lowest
levels.

     24. Finally, science has produced compelling evidence at the
biological level that mercury can cause the aberrancies found in Alzheimer's
disease. Recent research has shown both strong biological plausibility and
epidemiological studies regarding ethylmercury exposure from thimerosal in
vaccinations being the cause of the devastating disease of autism and
related disorder. Yet, our organizations and bureaucracies formed to protect
us deny even the possibility that mercury or organic mercury is involved in
the causation or exacerbation of these diseases. One only needs to know the
history of Pink disease (acyrodynia) to understand that proving mercury
involvement in disease is quite difficult due to genetic susceptibility.
However, all of the scientific and biomedical facts together emphasizes the
need for congressional action to stop the exposure of Americans to mercury
and organic mercury compounds.

I would suspect that if a girl had a reported outbreak of genital
warts after the vaccination, then she was infected with the HPV virus
prior to vaccination.  It's why it is so important to protect before
sexual activity is began.

A decade is long term in my book, perhaps not for others.