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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / August 2008[Book DPT] A Stolen Life by Marge Grant
http://www.dptshot.com/ > http://www.dptshot.com/ Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT shots, this one parent of one child from 1961 is getting any attention (much less credence) for a book she wrote 'claiming' her son's brain damage is a direct result of the shot. Squeaky wheels don't always get the grease when it's illogical. On Aug 21, 2:53 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > http://www.dptshot.com/ >Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT >shots, this one parent of one child from 1961 is getting any attention >(much less credence) for a book she wrote 'claiming' her son's brain >damage is a direct result of the shot. >Squeaky wheels don't always get the grease when it's illogical. Moron. DPT vaccine was killing at very laest 100 babies every year in the USA in 1984 and brain damaging 250: "Dr. Kevin Geraghty, Bay Area Physicians for the Study of Pertussis Vaccines: "The UCLA study showed one in 600 kids have shock like episodes. That is not controversial......I'm convinced in my heart of hearts that 100 American infants a year are dying and another 250 are brain-damaged from DPT. I would be prepared to clinically defend that to scientists." Geraghty believes as many as one in 15,000 children suffer brain damage and as many as one in 35,000 die following DPT vaccination."---Fresno Bee, DPT report 1984. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/fresno1.html VARES put it at 144 For DPT vaccine VAERS reports of 144 deaths per year (1990-1993) "In a year-long investigation of the Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reporting System (VAERS) operated by the Food and Drug Administration, NVIC/DPT analyzed VAERS computer discs used by the FDA to store data on reports of deaths and injuries following DPT vaccination. A total of 54,072 reports of adverse events following vaccination were listed in a 39-month period from July 1990 to November 1993 with 12,504 reports being associated with DPT vaccine, including 471 deaths." that would probably be 3% of the actual figure. and caused 900 severe cases of brain damage in the UK (would be 4 times that USA): "It now transpires that during the Clinical Trials children did in fact suffer severe and irreversible brain damage as a result of the Pertussis Vaccine and accepted as such by Medical Experts appointed by the Department of Health........It is now an established fact that the present figure now stands at over 900 which is an absolute disgrace in a civilised country."--M Wain http://www.whale.to/vaccines/wain.html while it was the main cause of autism until MMR and hep B etc came along http://www.whale.to/vaccine/vaccine_autism_proven.html and to compound that crime it did absolutely nothing to the decline of diptheria http://www.whale.to/a/diptheria1.html http://www.whale.to/a/diphtheria5.html , tetanus http://www.whale.to/a/tetanus.html, and pertussis! http://www.whale.to/a/pertussis_q.html > On Aug 21, 2:53 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >damage is a direct result of the shot. > >Squeaky wheels don't always get the grease when it's illogical. John responded: > Moron. DPT vaccine was killing at very laest 100 babies every year in the > USA in 1984 and brain damaging 250: Coleah says: (surpression of 'name calling) 1. Out of how many MILLIONS of children who were protected? 2. DPT is not even used anymore. 3. The HHS doesn't back up even the 1 in a Million incidence re: DaPT as a proven connection. Hey John....while you are running around the chicken yard with your head tilted way back, squawking 'The sky is falling'......please hold your mouth WIDE OPEN like a good boy. > "Dr. Kevin Geraghty, Bay Area Physicians for the Study of Pertussis > Vaccines: "The UCLA study showed one in 600 kids have shock like episodes. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > and to compound that crime it did absolutely nothing to the decline of > diptheriahttp://www.whale.to/a/diptheria1.htmlhttp://www.whale.to/a/diphtheria5.html, tetanushttp://www.whale.to/a/tetanus.html, and pertussis!http://www.whale.to/a/pertussis_q.html > >http://www.dptshot.com/ > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Squeaky wheels don't always get the grease when it's illogical. The DPT is no longer used. It is now the DaPT. > On Aug 21, 2:53 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: >> http://www.dptshot.com/ [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > http://www.whale.to/a/tetanus.html, and pertussis! > http://www.whale.to/a/pertussis_q.html >>> http://www.dptshot.com/ >> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The DPT is no longer used. It is now the DaPT. DTaP. Replaced possibly because of safety concerns, > >>>http://www.dptshot.com/ > >> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > DTaP. Replaced possibly because of safety concerns, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPT_vaccine The "aP" referring to "acellular pertussis". (The acellular form is considered safer and contains far fewer antigens than the older preparation.) DTaP www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-dtap.pdf U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES Severe Problems (Very Rare) • Serious allergic reaction (< 1 out of a million doses) • Several other severe problems have been reported after DTaP vaccine. These include: - Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness - Permanent brain damage. These are so rare it is hard to tell if they are caused by the vaccine. >>>>> http://www.dptshot.com/ >>>> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > These are so rare it is hard to tell if they are caused > by the vaccine. I was talking about concerns regarding DPT, not DTaP. Look at the vaccine injury compensation statistics at http://www.hrsa.gov/Vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm. Compensated DPT claims exceed all the rest combined. So DPT was replaced with DTaP. The book was about DPT. > >>>>>http://www.dptshot.com/ > >>>> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > So DPT was replaced with DTaP. > The book was about DPT.- And has the relvance, today, of a book about falling off the edge of the flat Earth. The only reason you anti-vac merchants of disease, disability and death promote these stories is the fear monger those parents who are alrady frightened enough. >>>>>>> http://www.dptshot.com/ >>>>>> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > death promote these stories is the fear monger those parents who are > alrady frightened enough. By this logic, anybody talking now about Vioxx is a fear monger. The drug has been recalled, let's turn the page and forget it all, right? > >>>>>>>http://www.dptshot.com/ > >>>>>> Interesting to note, out of millions of children who've received DPT [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > The drug has been recalled, let's turn the page and forget it all, > right?- OOPS! The Vioxx ploy. The DPT yarn is no longer applicable since DPT is no longer routinely used by physicians. There were many Vioxx users who had previously found no relief from their relentless pain. I guess you are not a champion of choice. On Aug 26, 1:11 am, Mike <m...@xyz.xxx> wrote: > Mark Probert wrote: > > On Aug 24, 12:10 am, Mike <M...@xyz.xxx> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > The drug has been recalled, let's turn the page and forget it all, > right?- OOPS! The Vioxx ploy. The DPT yarn is no longer applicable since DPT is no longer routinely used by physicians. There were many Vioxx users who had previously found no relief from their relentless pain. I guess you are not a champion of choice. LOL. And you, Mark Seth Probert are? There are 44,000 plus claimants who will participate in sharing the $4.85 billion fund set-up by Merck & Co, the manufacturer of the pain killer drug, Vioxx. Within the 44,000 claimants, there are a number of people who may not be able to wait for their claim and may benefit from a lawsuit cash advance. The Administrative Law firm handling the determination and pay-out of the settlement claims is the BrownGreer law firm. Initial payouts from the settlement fund will begin sometime after August 2008 in accordance with the Settlement Agreement. However, you could get cash now through a lawsuit cash advance from Oasis. > DTaP. Replaced possibly because of safety concerns Possibly? Only because of safety 'concerns'. The old one was deadly but they kept it going for years due to the profit. "For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to produce the safer DPT vaccine but decided not to bring it to market because it would increase production costs and lower the drug's 50% or higher profit margins."--Money Magazine http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money_mag.html "Drug companies keep DTP alive because it is less-expensive to make, offers a bigger profit margin and can be easily dumped on developing countries......Because many pediatricians prefer to reduce office visits by giving the combined DTP-HiB shot and because many HMOs use about 50 percent DTPH, as many as 30 percent of American infants still get reactive whole-cell pertussis."--NVIC http://www.909shot.com/gnssafet.htm "THE Department of Health has told doctors they must use stocks of a mercury-based vaccine for infants even though it is being phased out for safety reasons."--Media Aug 2001 "Michigan had made too much DPT in its Lansing laboratory and wanted to sell it to other states. That required FDA testing and approval, as with any other manufacturer. However, the FDA denied approval and returned the vaccine, saying It was 300 percent too potent. State health officials disagreed and decided to test the vaccine on children in Ingham County (Lansing). Despite more adverse reactions than usual, health officials released 400,000 doses of the DPT vaccine for use throughout the state a month later."---Fresno Bee DPT report 1984 http://www.whale.to/vaccines/fresno9.html similar to how they knew the MMR Urabe was unsafe but still used it: "They began using MMR in April 1989 and by July doctors were already warning of side-effects, but the government didn't take any notice because it was not convenient for them. They kept using it for another 3 years, securing the profits for the manufacturers".---Shunsuke Fuji http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmrjapan.html approved it for use in the UK, after it had been withdraw in Canada: "Up to 300 cases relate to this brand of vaccine - Pluserix - which was banned by the Department of Health in 1992 after being linked with meningitis. This was two years after an identical vaccine was banned in Canada."--Media "In 1990, scientists from the Queen's Medical Centre Nottingham found some children developed a form of meningitis after receiving it. But despite this the Government went on using it for more than two years. The Canadian Government, also using the vaccine, immediately switched to a safer version. It was not until September 1992 that the UK Department of Health issued pharmacists with emergency supplies of a safer brand with instructions to withdraw existing batches."--Sunday Express David Salisbury was the man who approved it, the same man who says the present MMR is safe! In 1986 Trivirix (MMR containing the Mumps Urabe strain AM-9), was introduced in Canada to replace MMR I. Concerns regarding the introduction of MMR in the UK are recorded in the minutes of the Joint Working Party of the British Paediatric Association and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization (JCVI) Liaison Group on June 26th of that year. Such concerns were soon to prove well grounded, as reports began to come in of an increased incidence of aseptic meningitis in vaccinated individuals. Ultimately, all MMR vaccines containing the Urabe strain of mumps were withdrawn in Canada in early 1988. This was before Urabe containing vaccines were licenced by the Department of Health (DoH) for use in the UK, followed in June of that year. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/golding.html >"For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to produce >the safer DPT vaccine but decided not to bring it to market because it would [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >DTPH, as many as 30 percent of American infants still get reactive >whole-cell pertussis."--NVIC http://www.909shot.com/gnssafet.htm You do realise that these two pieces of idiocy contradict each other, don't you, John?  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>"For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to produce >>the safer DPT vaccine but decided not to bring it to market because it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > You do realise that these two pieces of idiocy contradict each other, > don't you, John? really DPT is cheaper to make x 2 and the safer DPT is DTaP >>>"For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to produce >>>the safer DPT vaccine but decided not to bring it to market because it [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >and the safer DPT is DTaP a) That's got nothing to do with the contradiction b) No, it's not SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>>>"For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to >>>>produce [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > b) No, it's not point it out, I missed it > point it out, I missed it John, we long ago figured out that "contradiction" is simply not in your mental concept set. | The brighter the stupid burns, the more | | chance that someone will see the light. | +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+ >> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > b) No, it's not WTF? Just look at the statistics from vaccine injury compensation program. http://www.hrsa.gov/Vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm DTP (diphtheria-tetanus-whole cell pertussis): compensated claims 1263. DTaP (diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis): compensated claims 78. Quite a difference, isn't it? And total compensated claims: 2233, that is 1263 for DTP and 970 for everything else (that even includes DTP-HIB). >>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Quite a difference, isn't it? Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. >And total compensated claims: 2233, that is 1263 for DTP >and 970 for everything else (that even includes DTP-HIB). Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. Anyone who knows the true history of vaccination would run a mile when characters like you say this is the new 'safe' vaccine. Especially when they say DPT was perfectly safe, like Brain Deer says. And Coleah. Liars should never be shunned. Ie you. > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Liars should never be shunned. Ie you. "Perfectly" is the key word here. I never used that word, you did. (If you are looking for perfection in an inperfect world, your life will be in conflict.) When something works and protects the health of millions, I'd say it is safe. The very, very few who may have 'incidental' situations does not undermind the safety for the millions. I recently discovered that silly me had been causing damage to my body over a two year period, by taking Vitamin C (to help build a better immune system and handle free radials). For most people any excess Vitamin C is just flushed. For me over time, it caused crystals and urinating blood. Should all people stop taking Vitamin C? >Should all people stop taking Vitamin C? following your advice on nutritional med? I don't think so your lot haven't use vitamin c to cure measles and other infections for 57 years http://www.whale.to/w/vitamin_c.html > >Should all people stop taking Vitamin C? > > following your advice on nutritional med? I don't think so > > your lot haven't use vitamin c to cure measles and other infections for 57 > yearshttp://www.whale.to/w/vitamin_c.html Your communication skills are really lacking in clarity, John. First of all I am 'an individiual'....not a 'your lot' (whatever THAT is supposed to mean). Second, I was very foolish to take the amount of Vitamin C (1,000mg/ day) which I took for two years. Read my lips.....it DOES and DID cause kidney/bladder stones. Are there people who can handle large dosages? Perhaps. Again to the point: Because "I" had a problem....does that mean Vitamin C should be banned altogether for everyone as being 'unsafe' (as you push vaccines should be)? On Aug 25, 10:13 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > "Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > your lot haven't use vitamin c to cure measles and other infections for 57 > yearshttp://www.whale.to/w/vitamin_c.html Your communication skills are really lacking in clarity, John. First of all I am 'an individiual'....not a 'your lot' (whatever THAT is supposed to mean). Second, I was very foolish to take the amount of Vitamin C (1,000mg/ day) which I took for two years. Read my lips.....it DOES and DID cause kidney/bladder stones. Are there people who can handle large dosages? Perhaps. Again to the point: Because "I" had a problem....does that mean Vitamin C should be banned altogether for everyone as being 'unsafe' (as you push vaccines should be)? ===================== Depends on what brand. Echinacea C premium by Standard Process Supplements is best. I have taken the 1000 mg per day for years. Furthermore, how do you know it was the vitamin C that caused your problem? Diagnosed by a contventional doc? > On Aug 25, 10:13 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Furthermore, how do you know it was the vitamin C that caused your problem? > Diagnosed by a contventional doc? You may not be a person prone to forming crystaline stones from excess Vitamin C. Discovering that I AM prone, was NOT a healthy experience. Yes, I had diagonostic tests at a 'conventional' health center. Halting 1,000 mg Vitamin C supplement = Problem ceased. Do not take very large doses of Vitamin C (4 grams or more daily) http://www.kidney.ca/page.asp?intNodeID=22132 Avoid excess vitamin C (excess vitamin C is converted to oxalate) http://your-doctor.com/healthinfocenter/medical-conditions/urology/kidneystones.html Supplements of vitamin C at large doses - one gram a day - must not be taken by individuals affected by kidney stones or with a medical history indicating susceptibility to stone formation. It is believed that significantly lower amounts of the vitamin at 100 to 200 mg daily are safe and no medical concern need to be raised at such dosage levels. http://www.herbs2000.com/vitamins/v_c.htm On Aug 26, 12:52 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > "Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > problem? > Diagnosed by a contventional doc? You may not be a person prone to forming crystaline stones from excess Vitamin C. Discovering that I AM prone, was NOT a healthy experience. Yes, I had diagonostic tests at a 'conventional' health center. Halting 1,000 mg Vitamin C supplement = Problem ceased. Do not take very large doses of Vitamin C (4 grams or more daily) http://www.kidney.ca/page.asp?intNodeID=22132 Avoid excess vitamin C (excess vitamin C is converted to oxalate) http://your-doctor.com/healthinfocenter/medical-conditions/urology/kidneystones.html Supplements of vitamin C at large doses - one gram a day - must not be taken by individuals affected by kidney stones or with a medical history indicating susceptibility to stone formation. It is believed that significantly lower amounts of the vitamin at 100 to 200 mg daily are safe and no medical concern need to be raised at such dosage levels. http://www.herbs2000.com/vitamins/v_c.htm ========================= I read many causes. Were you tested for them all? If not, you have no way of knowing it was the vitamin C. > First of all I am 'an individiual'....not a 'your lot' (whatever THAT > is supposed to mean). > Second, I was very foolish to take the amount of Vitamin C (1,000mg/ > day) which I took for two years. Read my lips.....it DOES and DID > cause kidney/bladder stones. You're not the only one. Your experience agrees with my own and that of a colleague. Are there other possible explanations? Of course. On the other hand, John is more than willing to accept much weaker "evidence" when it suits him. | The brighter the stupid burns, the more | | chance that someone will see the light. | +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+ > In message > <711f1735-0bf1-4f34-9abb-b7b0e0c87e99@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You're not the only one. Your experience agrees with my own > and that of a colleague. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43 Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At worst, outright lies > Are there other possible explanations? Of course. On the > other hand, John is more than willing to accept much weaker > "evidence" when it suits him. John is not the subject. > | The brighter the stupid burns, the more | > | chance that someone will see the light. | > +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+ Like you. > >>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. Oh, that is so easy. Ask a hard one! Of course the answer is fear mongering by the anti-vac merchants of disease, disability and death. > >And total compensated claims: 2233, that is 1263 for DTP > >and 970 for everything else (that even includes DTP-HIB). > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. Vaccination tables do not lie. Poor Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY On Aug 24, 4:08 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote: > Mike <M...@xyz.xxx> wrote: > >Peter Bowditch wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >WTF? Just look at the statistics from vaccine injury > >compensation program. http://www.hrsa.gov/Vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm > >DTP (diphtheria-tetanus-whole cell pertussis): compensated claims 1263. > >DTaP (diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis): compensated claims 78. > > >Quite a difference, isn't it? > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. Oh, that is so easy. Ask a hard one! Of course the answer is fear mongering by the anti-vac merchants of disease, disability and death. Prove it. You cannot. > >And total compensated claims: 2233, that is 1263 for DTP > >and 970 for everything else (that even includes DTP-HIB). > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. >>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Yep. Now tell me what relevance the DTP figures have to today. JOHN stated that DTaP is safer than DTP. You stated: "No, it's not". The VICP statistics prove his statement is correct, unlike yours. Relevance to today is a different issue that was not discussed in this thread, invoking it is a lame attempt to change the topic. >>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Relevance to today is a different issue that was not discussed in this >thread, invoking it is a lame attempt to change the topic. Learn to read. John said "the safer DPT is DTaP". Is that a true statement? SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > John said "the safer DPT is DTaP". > > Is that a true statement? like debating with mud. Still trying to get him to say what the contradiction is in these 2 quotes: >"For decades, American pharmaceutical companies have known how to produce >the safer DPT vaccine but decided not to bring it to market because it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >DTPH, as many as 30 percent of American infants still get reactive >whole-cell pertussis."--NVIC http://www.909shot.com/gnssafet.htm >You do realise that these two pieces of idiocy contradict each other, >don't you, John? >>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Is that a true statement? That is nitpicking. He meant "a safer version of DPT is DTaP" which is obviously true. This is not an English exam, and you are not a professor. >>>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >That is nitpicking. He meant "a safer version of DPT is DTaP" which is >obviously true. No, it is not true. A safer version of the Corvette is a Hyundai Excel. Think about it. >This is not an English exam, and you are not a professor. Precision in the use of language is not just a matter for English professors (or even professors of English). And how do you know that I am not a professor? Nine hours from now I will be teaching a class at a college. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > A safer version of the Corvette is a Hyundai Excel. Think about it. And a still safer version is the Fisher-Price model. | The brighter the stupid burns, the more | | chance that someone will see the light. | +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+ >> A safer version of the Corvette is a Hyundai Excel. Think about it. > >And a still safer version is the Fisher-Price model. Following the logic "something different is a safer form of something", it would be an even safe Corvette if the Fisher-Price model was a Range Rover. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>>>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > A safer version of the Corvette is a Hyundai Excel. Think about it. DPT (or DTP) is a vaccine that was used to prevent diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. DTaP is a vaccine that is used for exactly the same purposes and that replaced DTP because it is safer. What part of that don't you understand? >> This is not an English exam, and you are not a professor. > > Precision in the use of language is not just a matter for English > professors (or even professors of English). And how do you know that I > am not a professor? Nine hours from now I will be teaching a class at > a college. >>>>>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >purposes and that replaced DTP because it is safer. What part of >that don't you understand? I understand that it is a completely different pertussis vaccine, made in a different way using different techniques and based on different science. A safer form of the AK47 is a tambourine. Think about it. >>> This is not an English exam, and you are not a professor. >> >> Precision in the use of language is not just a matter for English >> professors (or even professors of English). And how do you know that I >> am not a professor? Nine hours from now I will be teaching a class at >> a college. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > >>>>>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > A safer form of the AK47 is a tambourine. Think about it. Actually, and having used both for their intended purpose, the M-16 is far safer, for both parties. >> >>>>>>>>> DPT is cheaper to make x 2 >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >Actually, and having used both for their intended purpose, the M-16 is >far safer, for both parties. Agreed, but you can make an M-16 even safer by replacing the ukulele with a cauliflower. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com LOL. The itch a professor. He does NOT have a Ph.d. Quoting form his buddy, gang member and proven liar. Just like you Mark Seth Probert: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43 Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At worst, outright lies. >LOL. The itch a professor. Has anybody mentioned rusty rebar and what you should do with it today, Jan? If not, why not? >He does NOT have a Ph.d. Yes, I do. >Quoting form his buddy, gang member and proven liar. Just like you Mark >Seth Probert: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At >worst, outright lies. Quoting from your buddy Tim Bolen - "shitbag". SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > LOL. The itch a professor. > He does NOT have a Ph.d. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At > worst, outright lies. |
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