Medical Forum / General / Alternative / July 2008
Surgery Versus Eating For Pain
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ironjustice - 22 Jul 2008 04:29 GMT They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol. Alpha-trinositol is considered to be .. vegetable .. lecithin. To those in the .. know.
"Hyperalgesia Relieved By Alpha-trinositol"
Peripheral hyperalgesia in experimental neuropathy: exacerbation by neuropeptide Y. D J Tracey,M A Romm,N N Yao
Abstract Injury of peripheral nerves often results in hyperalgesia (an increased sensitivity to painful stimuli). This hyperalgesia is mediated in part by sympathetic neurotransmitters. We examined the effect of neuropeptide Y (NPY), specific Y1 and Y2 agonists, and an NPY antagonist on peripheral hyperalgesia in rats whose sciatic nerves had been partially transected. NPY and the Y2 agonist, N-acetyl [Leu28,Leu31] NPY 24-36 exacerbated both mechanical and thermal hyperalgesia, while the Y1 agonist, [Leu31, Pro34]NPY relieved thermal hyperalgesia. Mechanical and thermal hyperalgesia were both relieved by alpha-trinositol (PP56), a non-competitive antagonist of the actions of neuropeptide Y. Hyperalgesia was also relieved by surgical sympathectomy, which eliminated the effects of NPY and its agonists. These results suggest that neuropeptide Y contributes to peripheral hyperalgesia by actions at Y2 receptors, which may be located on postganglionic sympathetic terminals.
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"Alpha-Trinositol"
Tocopherol / vitamin E / **alpha** . Phytate / IP6 breaks down INTO .. IP3 / **Trinositol**.
"Crude lecithin is composed of tocopherol or vitamin E and phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylsterine and other phospholipids"
THAT means they ARE .. exactly the **same**.
Tocopherol and trinositol found in plant oil lecithin,
They **recreated** a breakdown product of plain old plant oil lecithin .. ?
It is very good at what it does.
It prevents hemolysis and thrombosis.
http://www.dreddyclinic.com/vitamins/Lecithin.htm
"Crude lecithin--whether from soy, corn, canola, rice or other oils-- is composed of a variety of compounds. Some of these components--such as tocopherol or vitamin E-possess significant nutritional benefits. The emulsifying phospholipid portion of lecithin contains phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylsterine and other phospholipids. These molecules hove been used for health purposes as well, most often as dietary supplements."
Who loves ya. Tom
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ironjustice - 22 Jul 2008 04:52 GMT On Jul 21, 8:29 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote: alpha- trinositol <<
"Inositol (as phosphatidylinositol) is found in lecithin" "Crude lecithin is composed of tocopherol"
http://tinyurl.com/6ztj6s
Inositol © Elson M. Haas M.D. (Excerpted from Staying Healthy With Nutrition) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Inositol, also part of the B vitamin complex, is closely associated with choline. Like choline, inositol (as phosphatidylinositol) is also found in lecithin, though in lesser amounts than choline, and acts as a lipotropic agent (milder than choline) in the body, helping to emulsify fats. The body can produce its own inositol from glucose, so it is not really essential. We have high stores of inositol; its concentration in the body is second highest of the B vitamins, surpassed only by niacin. Sources: Inositol is present in both plants and animals. It is part of phospholipids in animals; in plants, it is contained in phytic acid, which can bind calcium and iron. It is not totally clear how inositol is produced by the body; it may be made by intestinal bacteria. It is stored in the body, but drinking lots of coffee can deplete these stores. Inositol is found in the whole, unprocessed grains, citrus fruits (except lemons), cantaloupe, brewer’s yeast, unrefined molasses, and liver. It is also available in wheat germ, lima beans, raisins, peanuts, cabbage, and some nuts. And, of course, lecithin is a good source. as dietary supplements."
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
> They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol. > Alpha-trinositol is considered to be .. vegetable .. lecithin. [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk aka_velcro - 22 Jul 2008 21:14 GMT > On Jul 21, 8:29 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote: alpha- > trinositol << [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > >Who loves ya. =CAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE AROUND THIS CREATURE, LET ALONE READ THE sh.t SPEWED FORTH BY HIM REPETITIVELY. Tom= REALLY A HERMAPHRODITIC NEANDERTHAL THAT WILL NOT GO AWAY.
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ironjustice - 23 Jul 2008 02:10 GMT On Jul 22, 1:14 pm, aka_velcro <Crystalarev...@gmail.com> wrote:snip <<
Remember do not break crush chew or inject those meds.
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Juba - 23 Jul 2008 04:41 GMT aka_velcro <Crystalarevalo@gmail.com> wrote in message: fc4da2b9-2a10-40eb-ab78-3472eb19038f@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,
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> GO AWAY. > > WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT **YOUR POSTING IS NOT WANTED HERE***** It's hopeless. Every time you post a reply you make his naughty bits tingle.
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ironjustice - 23 Jul 2008 12:44 GMT On Jul 21, 8:52 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:Hyperalgesia <<
They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol. Alpha-trinositol is considered to be .. vegetable .. lecithin. To those in the .. know.
"Hyperalgesia Relieved By Alpha-trinositol"
Peripheral hyperalgesia in experimental neuropathy: exacerbation by neuropeptide Y. D J Tracey,M A Romm,N N Yao
Abstract Injury of peripheral nerves often results in hyperalgesia (an increased sensitivity to painful stimuli). This hyperalgesia is mediated in part by sympathetic neurotransmitters. We examined the effect of neuropeptide Y (NPY), specific Y1 and Y2 agonists, and an NPY antagonist on peripheral hyperalgesia in rats whose sciatic nerves had been partially transected. NPY and the Y2 agonist, N-acetyl [Leu28,Leu31] NPY 24-36 exacerbated both mechanical and thermal hyperalgesia, while the Y1 agonist, [Leu31, Pro34]NPY relieved thermal hyperalgesia. Mechanical and thermal hyperalgesia were both relieved by alpha-trinositol (PP56), a non-competitive antagonist of the actions of neuropeptide Y. Hyperalgesia was also relieved by surgical sympathectomy, which eliminated the effects of NPY and its agonists. These results suggest that neuropeptide Y contributes to peripheral hyperalgesia by actions at Y2 receptors, which may be located on postganglionic sympathetic terminals.
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"Alpha-Trinositol"
Tocopherol / vitamin E / **alpha** . Phytate / IP6 breaks down INTO .. IP3 / **Trinositol**.
"Crude lecithin is composed of tocopherol or vitamin E and phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylsterine and other phospholipids"
THAT means they ARE .. exactly the **same**.
Tocopherol and trinositol found in plant oil lecithin,
They **recreated** a breakdown product of plain old plant oil lecithin .. ?
It is very good at what it does.
It prevents hemolysis and thrombosis.
http://www.dreddyclinic.com/vitamins/Lecithin.htm
"Crude lecithin--whether from soy, corn, canola, rice or other oils-- is composed of a variety of compounds. Some of these components--such as tocopherol or vitamin E-possess significant nutritional benefits. The emulsifying phospholipid portion of lecithin contains phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylsterine and other phospholipids. These molecules hove been used for health purposes as well, most often as dietary supplements."
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"Inositol (as phosphatidylinositol) is found in lecithin" "Crude lecithin is composed of tocopherol"
http://tinyurl.com/6ztj6s
Inositol © Elson M. Haas M.D. (Excerpted from Staying Healthy With Nutrition) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Inositol, also part of the B vitamin complex, is closely associated with choline. Like choline, inositol (as phosphatidylinositol) is also found in lecithin, though in lesser amounts than choline, and acts as a lipotropic agent (milder than choline) in the body, helping to emulsify fats. The body can produce its own inositol from glucose, so it is not really essential. We have high stores of inositol; its concentration in the body is second highest of the B vitamins, surpassed only by niacin. Sources: Inositol is present in both plants and animals. It is part of phospholipids in animals; in plants, it is contained in phytic acid, which can bind calcium and iron. It is not totally clear how inositol is produced by the body; it may be made by intestinal bacteria. It is stored in the body, but drinking lots of coffee can deplete these stores. Inositol is found in the whole, unprocessed grains, citrus fruits (except lemons), cantaloupe, brewer’s yeast, unrefined molasses, and liver. It is also available in wheat germ, lima beans, raisins, peanuts, cabbage, and some nuts. And, of course, lecithin is a good source. as dietary supplements."
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ferrous@ironcity.com - 23 Jul 2008 13:38 GMT "They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol."
for:
"neuropathy:"
Surgery is not used as a treatment for usual neuropathy. In the abstract surgery,ie. cutting nerves, was used to be able to isolate parts of the nerve system as a research tool.
As is most often the case, not comprehending what is posted leads to floppy subject lines and worse conclusions.
Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.
ironjustice - 23 Jul 2008 20:19 GMT On Jul 23, 5:38 am, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: "They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol for neuropathy." <<
You know when you apply yourself you can cut and paste with the best of them ..
"They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol for neuropathy."
Relief of pain by NOT .. cutting the nerve .. re;ief of pain BY cutting the nerve.
Cutting the nerve is .. surgery ..
It is also known as .. comeupance .. in some places.
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
> Surgery is not used as a treatment for usualneuropathy. In the abstract > surgery,ie. cutting nerves, was used to be able to isolate parts of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jesus ate a mediterranean diet. ferrous@ironcity.com - 23 Jul 2008 20:51 GMT "They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol" for "neuropathy."
Using the word surgery is a bit of a strech. As a method of isolation some nerves and not some others were cut. It is a research tool not a trial for a proposed treatment proceedure.
Once again, not comprehending what is in an abstract and jumbing to all manner of unwarrented conclusions and strange subject lines.
Jesus ate a meterranean diet.
ironjustice - 23 Jul 2008 21:14 GMT On Jul 23, 12:51 pm, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote:It is a research tool not a trial for a proposed treatment proceedure. <<
The nerve cutting .. killed the pain. The alpha-trinositol .. killed the pain.
Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
> "They compare surgery to the use of alpha-trinositol" > for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jesus ate a meterranean diet.
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