> http://psychrights.org/Articles/DHealy2007PediatricBipolarDisorderJRS419.pdfPediatric bipolar disorder: An object of study in the creation of an illness,
> by David Healy and Joanna Le Noury,
From that paper "In the past 10 years D. Healy has had consultancies
with, been a principal investigator or clinical trialist for, been a
chairman or speaker at international symposia for or been in receipt
of support to attend meetings from Astra-Zeneca, Boots/Knoll
Pharmaceuticals, Eli Lilly, Janssen-Cilag, Lorex-Synthelabo, Lundbeck,
Organon, Pharmacia & Upjohn, Pierre-Fabre, Pfizer, Rhone-Poulenc
Rorer, Roche, Sanofi, SmithKline Beecham, Solvay. In the past two
years, he has had lecture fees and support to attend meetings from
Astra-Zeneca and Lundbeck.
How do you normally describe people with such credentials?
D. C. Sessions - 19 Jul 2008 22:02 GMT
> How do you normally describe people with such credentials?
The only thing that John needs to know about someone's
credentials is whether or not they agree with him.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Kevysmom - 20 Jul 2008 00:37 GMT
> The only thing that John needs to know about someone's
> credentials is whether or not they agree with him.
BOO!
> In message <6ak484pil98sifk6bh1tcvhrld6po11...@4ax.com>, Peter Parry wrote:
>
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> | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 16:57 GMT
>> http://psychrights.org/Articles/DHealy2007PediatricBipolarDisorderJRS419.pdfPediatric
>> bipolar disorder: An object of study in the creation of an illness,
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>
> How do you normally describe people with such credentials?
He's an expert on anti-depressant drugs such as Prozac and the center
offered him a prestigious job. But then suddenly it changed its mind. The
decision the critics say was influenced by the center's relationship with
powerful drug companies. Darrow MacIntyre has this feature documentary.
DAVID HEALY: Let's say in the case of Prozac that it causes the problem, it
will cause people to commit suicide at a rate of one in 1,000 people who
actually go on the drug. To most people here a figure like that, that sounds
like a fairly low figure. It sounds like a reasonable trade-off almost. But
if 50 million people go on the drug, then that becomes 50,000 suicides which
is maybe higher than there has been, but it becomes an awfully big figure.
It's what the FDA call the public health multiplier which is a small hazard
distributed among millions of people becomes a big problem.
http://psychrights.org/Research/Legal/SStefanPsychMedstortlitigationFactSheet.htm
Dr. Healy's credentials were impeccable, and therefore he was permitted to
testify. ...
Peter Parry - 20 Jul 2008 19:53 GMT
>Dr. Healy's credentials were impeccable, and therefore he was permitted to
>testify. ...
I don't doubt for one minute that they are. However if anyone with
similar credentials were to be quoted on, say, the subject of vaccine
safety John would be jumping up and down and writing "pharma shill"
or similar. I'm just puzzled how someone who (quite properly) works
for many drug companies can be a "noted expert" (if they support
John's viewpoint) but a "pharma shill" (if they don't). This doesn't
seem to be a very consistent approach to debate.
D. C. Sessions - 20 Jul 2008 20:53 GMT
> I don't doubt for one minute that they are. However if anyone with
> similar credentials were to be quoted on, say, the subject of vaccine
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> John's viewpoint) but a "pharma shill" (if they don't). This doesn't
> seem to be a very consistent approach to debate.
It's perfectly consistent.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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