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Why Vaccination Continues even though it is unsafe and ineffective
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JOHN - 19 Jul 2008 09:26 GMT http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
Peter Parry - 19 Jul 2008 10:58 GMT >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html As a reference that does seem to be a bit lacking in objective detail and rather full of unsubstantiated and rather unlikely claims such as:-
"The main attraction of vaccination to Allopathy is Mind control"
"Mind control a) Baptism into Atheistic Church of Allopathy "
"Mind control is the matrix of the covert-Fascist state, a creation of Psychopathic Ego/Self Importance programming, consisting mostly of information control--- enforced ignorance so propaganda (lies) can flourish which includes suppression of the truth, such as non-cartel medicine and disease causes, and assassination of truth speakers or competition. "
"The lie of atheism is promoted by the Cartel though the media and State, to cut off our Higher Self connection (called soul murder carried to extreme...."
Vaccination is the medical sacrament corresponding to baptism. "vaccination plays the same initiatory role as baptism, and is accompanied by the same threats and fears"
"Vaccination is used for covert-genocide, either to take out your own troops with gulf war syndrome or the "useless eaters" in Africa."
"assassination of truth speakers"? Yet whale survives?
Perhaps some of the authors who invented this should renew their supply of dried green frog pills or at least reduce their intake of interesting plant leaves?
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2008 16:01 GMT > >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > supply of dried green frog pills or at least reduce their intake of > interesting plant leaves? Peter Parry:
You sort of come in and out of my radar, from time-to-time, in my search for the human filth that makes up that section of the quackpot menace - those that inhabit the internet discussion groups. Frankly, I'm not sure whether you are a player or not. I lean towards "not."
So, why not enlighten us all to "who, and what you are?...
My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- time, employment, probably as a dish washer or something equivalent. Probably, too, you feature yourself as an intellectual, and cannot understand your "rejection" by those who consider as your peers.
I'd guess, too, that an examination of your personal police record would show that on more than one occasion you've had to be forcibly ordered out of an establishment.
Also, I'd guess, you get on the internet at the local library, because you cannot afford a regular connection.
Oh yes, I forgot - no doubt you call yourself a "skeptic."
Am I "right on?"
Very amused in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 19 Jul 2008 16:19 GMT On Jul 19, 11:01 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Probably, too, you feature yourself as an intellectual, and cannot > understand your "rejection" by those who consider as your peers. Wow! Timmie, are you taking a course in "How to live in the gutter?"
> I'd guess, too, that an examination of your personal police record > would show that on more than one occasion you've had to be forcibly > ordered out of an establishment. Stop projecting, Timmie.
> Also, I'd guess, you get on the internet at the local library, because > you cannot afford a regular connection. > > Oh yes, I forgot - no doubt you call yourself a "skeptic." > > Am I "right on?" No, you are Mor on.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2008 21:08 GMT > On Jul 19, 11:01 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Mark:
I don't do courses for quackpot groups, and even if I did it would be a waste of effort to try to raise the standard for quackpottery all the way UP to "How to live in the gutter." No one would seriously believe that could be achieved.
Dead serious in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 20 Jul 2008 20:34 GMT On Jul 19, 4:08 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 11:01 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Dead serious in California... Skip the serious part.
Peter Parry - 19 Jul 2008 18:39 GMT >My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, >British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- >time, employment, probably as a dish washer or something equivalent. I don't think we have night time dishwashers in the UK, machines tend to be cheaper, quicker and more hygienic.
>Probably, too, you feature yourself as an intellectual, and cannot >understand your "rejection" by those who consider as your peers. If you could rephrase your post in a recognisable language I'll try to answer.
>I'd guess, too, that an examination of your personal police record I have a "personal" police record? Wow, fame at last.
>Am I "right on?" Not really, but don't let it bother you.
>Very amused in California... Ah, California.
D. C. Sessions - 19 Jul 2008 19:07 GMT >>Am I "right on?" > > Not really, but don't let it bother you. Inaccuracy has never seemed to bother Timmy before.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2008 20:59 GMT > >My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, > >British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Ah, California. peter parry:
Obviously, I was not "right on..."
I missed the part about you" living with your mother - and she pays the rent?"
Am I getting closer?
Amused in California...
Tim Bolen
Peter Parry - 19 Jul 2008 21:25 GMT >Obviously, I was not "right on..." You are correct.
Peter Bowditch - 20 Jul 2008 00:26 GMT >> >My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, >> >British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >I missed the part about you" living with your mother - and she pays >the rent?" So where do you live, Tim? Does your mother's mail get delivered to your "residence"?
http://www.dailymotion.com/ratbaggery/video/x2px85_patrick-timothy-bolen-talks-a bout-h_fun
Does your mother remember your father's name? (Rhetorical question.)
>Am I getting closer? > >Amused in California... > >Tim Bolen
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
D. C. Sessions - 20 Jul 2008 00:39 GMT > Does your mother remember your father's name? (Rhetorical question.) Peter, have you seen this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080097/ (One of the funniest ever, with some truly great scenes.) I'm thinking that Your question was answered by Ahnold.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 20 Jul 2008 02:10 GMT > In message <vrt484ti0qtopstjh89i9fgn1u3l58s...@4ax.com>, Peter Bowditch wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | > +-------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ Gee whiz:
I don't see an answer from the person who calls themselves "Peter Parry," in any way actually identifying himself/herself/itself/ themself - nor denying the details of my educated guess.
I think I got too close for his/her/its/their comfort.
What we HAVE learned is that peter Parry, apparently, is not a dish- washer - but is a more likely a dish-putter-in-the-dishwasher person, who then becomes, a little later, a dish-taker-outer-of-the- dishwasher, in wholly modernized Britain.
No denial of the other conjectures, so I think we can accept the rest as true. As in:
"My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- time, employment, probably as a dish-putter-in-the-dishwasher person, who then becomes, a little later, a dish-taker-outer-of-the-dishwasher or something equivalent. Probably, too, you feature yourself as an intellectual, and cannot understand your "rejection" by those who consider as your peers.
I'd guess, too, that an examination of your personal police record would show that on more than one occasion you've had to be forcibly ordered out of an establishment.
Also, I'd guess, you get on the internet at the local library, because you cannot afford a regular connection.
Oh yes, I forgot - no doubt you call yourself a "skeptic." And, you are, apparently "living with your mother - and she pays the rent?" "
Searching for the truth in California...
Tim Bolen
Peter Bowditch - 20 Jul 2008 09:15 GMT >> In message <vrt484ti0qtopstjh89i9fgn1u3l58s...@4ax.com>, Peter Bowditch wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Parry," in any way actually identifying himself/herself/itself/ >themself - nor denying the details of my educated guess. Well, Tim, I saw a reply.
>I think I got too close for his/her/its/their comfort. > >What we HAVE learned is that peter Parry, apparently, is not a dish- >washer - but is a more likely a dish-putter-in-the-dishwasher person, His reply mentioned dishwashers.
>who then becomes, a little later, a dish-taker-outer-of-the- >dishwasher, in wholly modernized Britain. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Also, I'd guess, you get on the internet at the local library, because >you cannot afford a regular connection. A question, Tim - how do you get both the modem and the computer inside your mail box?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=15351077
>Oh yes, I forgot - no doubt you call yourself a "skeptic." And, you >are, apparently "living with your mother - and she pays the rent?" " Does your mother live in a mail box like you do, Tim, or has she graduated to a garbage can?
>Searching for the truth in California... You wouldn't recognise the truth if it came with a label around its neck.
When can I expect the suing to start? I need to arrange my calendar in case I need hernia surgery after busting a gut from laughing at you too much.
>Tim Bolen
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Mark Probert - 20 Jul 2008 20:37 GMT On Jul 19, 9:10 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > In message <vrt484ti0qtopstjh89i9fgn1u3l58s...@4ax.com>, Peter Bowditch wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Searching for the truth in California... You would find more truth if you removed your head from your a.s.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 20 Jul 2008 22:21 GMT > On Jul 19, 9:10 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Gee mark:
It would seem from your commentary that you are "protective" of peter parry." Any particular reason?
Is it that the character calling he/she/it/them, or whatever calls itself "Peter Parry" is too delicate to fend for himself/herself/ itself/themself?
Or is it that, perhaps? YOU, are using that identity, and that "Peter Parry - bitchy boy.." persona is actually mark probert, disbarred attorney?
Hmmmmmmmm?
If it really is you mark - I commend you - for you've got that "bitchy fag" delivery down real well. You should try out for daytime TV.
Curious in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 21 Jul 2008 14:35 GMT > > On Jul 19, 9:10 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > If it really is you mark - I commend you - for you've got that "bitchy > fag" delivery down real well. You should try out for daytime TV. You are a disgusting homophobe probably caused when you spent less than a year on active duty and was kicked out.
Jan Drew - 22 Jul 2008 03:02 GMT http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 06:17 GMT "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@lumbercartel.com>
More off topic.
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 06:16 GMT "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com>
Off topic as usual.
Mark Probert - 20 Jul 2008 20:36 GMT > jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> >My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Does your mother remember your father's name? (Rhetorical question.) Timmie, I thought you said you graduated kindergarten?
Mark Probert - 20 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT On Jul 19, 3:59 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, > > >British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Obviously, I was not "right on..." correct. You were "Mor(e) on".
> I missed the part about you" living with your mother - and she pays > the rent?" > > Am I getting closer? Stephen King would not even think that.
Richard Schultz - 20 Jul 2008 06:03 GMT In misc.health.alternative Peter Parry <peter@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:
:>Am I "right on?" : : Not really, but don't let it bother you. Well, this *is* the guy who claimed to have discovered that I work in a sausage factory.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 17:02 GMT [ ]
Off topic.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 20 Jul 2008 19:31 GMT > In misc.health.alternative Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ----- > "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience" Richard:
How are things down at the sausage factory?
Tim Bolen
JOHN - 19 Jul 2008 20:28 GMT Peter Parry:
quackpot timewaster for the killfile
Peter Parry - 19 Jul 2008 21:24 GMT >quackpot timewaster for the killfile As you have never either bothered or had the ability to respond to any questions from anyone upon your rather odd views I don't expect that will make any material difference.
Peter Parry - 19 Jul 2008 22:12 GMT >You sort of come in and out of my radar My apologies for omitting the question earlier but I would be interested in your opinion on Johns statement that "The main attraction of vaccination to Allopathy is Mind control". It does seem somewhat improbable but what are your opinions about his hypothesis?
Peter Bowditch - 20 Jul 2008 00:22 GMT >> >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >So, why not enlighten us all to "who, and what you are?... So, Tim, why not enlighten us all to where you live?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/758665/where_does_tim_bolen_live/
>My read of you, from your writings, suggests that you are a bitter, >British lower class homosexual, engaged in, at best, part-time, night- >time, employment, probably as a dish washer or something equivalent. >Probably, too, you feature yourself as an intellectual, and cannot >understand your "rejection" by those who consider as your peers. Perhaps he can remember where he went to school, Tim. Can you?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/772866/tim_bolens_education/
>I'd guess, too, that an examination of your personal police record >would show that on more than one occasion you've had to be forcibly [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Very amused in California... How is the suing of me getting on, Tim? There's been nothing in my mail box (where I don't live) and my lawyer, Portia Carrera, at the fine firm of Farr, Gough and Dye hasn't heard from you either.
>Tim Bolen
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 06:33 GMT >where you live Is not the subject.
Why Vaccination Continues even though it is unsafe and ineffective
IS the subject.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
Peter Bowditch - 20 Jul 2008 09:17 GMT >>where you live > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html Then perhaps you should tell Timothy Patrick Bolen of no fixed address to stop asking off-topic questions.
Oh, I forgot. You rules don't apply to him.
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Richard Schultz - 20 Jul 2008 10:17 GMT In misc.health.alternative Peter Bowditch <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote:
: Oh, I forgot. You [Jan Drew] rules don't apply to him. Heck, her rules don't apply to Jan Drew, as she will gladly tell you.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "I've lost my harmonica, Albert."
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 17:21 GMT > Jan Drew
>Jan Drew Off topic.
> ----- > Richard Schultz ----- Jan Drew To color the truth is to lie. To NOT identify a liar is to lie. Habitual liars are damned by God.
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 17:15 GMT >>>where you live >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>IS the subject. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
> you
> Timothy Patrick Bolen
> Oh, I forgot. You rules don't apply to him. Are all off topic.
Why Vaccination Continues even though it is unsafe and ineffective
IS the topic.
Jan Drew - 20 Jul 2008 06:12 GMT http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
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