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Chronic Venous Insufficiency (and more) - How to Heal?

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dynamicbliss@gmail.com - 18 Jul 2008 12:30 GMT
My dad recently visited me here in California.  He is 65, living in
Baltimore, MD, and has been diagnosed with Chronic Venous
Insufficiency within the last year or so.  He has wounds/ulcers on his
legs that have been lingering and not healing, and I am concerned
about his condition.

The ulcers he has aren't seeming to get any better, and, in fact, he's
getting more on his other leg.  He hobbles around with a cane and it's
almost getting to the point where he can no longer walk.  He sleeps
with his bed at an angle (legs elevated), and uses compression
stockings, along with having his wounds debreeded (when necessary) and
wrapped twice a week at a local wound care center.

I think these leg injuries make it difficult for him to bathe, too,
and may even eliminate an odor themselves. Nonetheless, he seems to
carry an unpleasant odor and people he encounters are often repulsed
and offended by his apparent hygiene (though, out of 'politeness,'
they seldom voice this to him directly).  I've heard about self-
dissolving soaps and other ways to stay clean, but I'm beginning to
wonder if his obesity makes it difficult for him to clean himself to
the point that he opts for self neglect.

In reflection, my thoughts on helping him are to seek out people who
may have experienced the same problem who have healed and conquered
the issue.  If he could find such 'models,' perhaps they could be his
road map to improved health?  I gave him one of Dr. Andrew Weil's
books, "8 Weeks to Optimum Health," and sincerely hope he reads and
follows it.  In his case, it could be more like 8 Months, but I think
Dr. Weil is an inspiring and wise doctor and writer who's advice is
impeccable.

From a layman's perspective, I can say that one thing he could
immediately do is commit to a strict and healthy diet.  Perhaps all
raw/organic fruits and vegetables.  He is overweight, perhaps grossly
overweight, and I fear that his ignorance of his intake, such as fatty
salad dressings, burgers, etc., could be having a drastically negative
effect on his health.

This leg ulcer condition, coupled with his obesity, almost seem to
have created an unstoppable 'downward spiral.'  He does have
jurisdiction over his diet, though, but like many, may using (abusing)
food to comfort his pain.  He seems to also have chronic fatigue,
where he drifts off into a sleep at random times throughout the day.
Many of his symptoms, combined, seem to point to diabetes, but he
seems to be stubborn, and hasn't taken the fasting blood test
necessary to make such an 'official' diagnosis.  Perhaps the diabetic
problem could be a "root cause" which, once addressed, could help all
other areas move toward a healthier state?

I told my dad that if I were in his shoes, I'd be putting great effort
into seeking such a "model", and would do the following:

- Concentrate on and commit to a permanent diet and weight loss plan
and establish healthy eating through a raw foods diet, using a Vita-
Mix blender to make freshly juiced raw fruit and veggie smoothies for
all of my meals, as well as taking vitamin supplements as recommended
by a dietitian / nutritionist, or Dr. Weil's Vitamin Advisor at
<http://www.drweil.com/vitamin_advisor>.

- Study and consider alternative treatments such as Chinese medicine,
the use of magnets, Yoga and Indian medicine, the use of healing hot
springs, crystals, the use of wheat grass juice, Kombucha mushroom
tea, the use of Sweat Lodges and Medicine Men, herbal medicine,
acupuncture, etc.

- Continue seeking others who have healed from similar conditions, and
how they did it.

- Motivate and focus the mind on success and wellness.  Take time
daily to visualize being blessed by healing energy, and creating an
image of a "healthy you" as the target of your efforts. Motivation is
a big factor, and though my dad's mind is filled with motivational
teachings, I wonder how much he truly takes to heart and practices.
This is something that must come from within - he must have the
burning desire to overcome his ailments and win his battles.

If anyone knows of any resources we might be able to refer to,
especially examples persons who may have been in his condition, who
have successfully overcome this problem, and how they did it, please
post info here.

Thank you!

~RBCA
Robert Miles - 18 Jul 2008 13:01 GMT
> My dad recently visited me here in California.  He is 65, living in
> Baltimore, MD, and has been diagnosed with Chronic Venous
> Insufficiency within the last year or so.  He has wounds/ulcers on his
> legs that have been lingering and not healing, and I am concerned
> about his condition.
[snip]
> - Concentrate on and commit to a permanent diet and weight loss plan
> and establish healthy eating through a raw foods diet, using a Vita-
> Mix blender to make freshly juiced raw fruit and veggie smoothies for
> all of my meals, as well as taking vitamin supplements as recommended
> by a dietitian / nutritionist, or Dr. Weil's Vitamin Advisor at
> <http://www.drweil.com/vitamin_advisor>.

If it's diabetes, he should avoid the starchy vegetables such as
Irish potatoes, rice; also avoid the white wheat products such
as bread and pasta.  Raw vegetables are often better than cooked
vegetables for diabetes, but avoid fruit juices and some types of
vegetable juice.  An all vegetable diet makes it more difficult, but
not impossible, to maintain a reasonable blood glucose level.

> - Continue seeking others who have healed from similar conditions, and
> how they did it.
>
> ~RBCA

You've found a group of diabetics many of whom have found diet
changes helpful in controlling diabetes, but aren't likely to agree
with the low-fat newsgroup you also included in your crosspost
list (so I've removed it from this answer).
erach27@gmail.com - 18 Jul 2008 13:21 GMT
Well, I swear by (auto) "urine therapy" ---- study it on the internet
---- and check my postings
on google groups.

Erach

On Jul 18, 5:01 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
wrote:
> <dynamicbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> with the low-fat newsgroup you also included in your crosspost
> list (so I've removed it from this answer).
Billy - 18 Jul 2008 18:30 GMT
This melodrama (fictional I presume) would have been more
convincing if you had known less and weren't pushing a commercial
product.

You must know that there are at least two ways to determine
blood sugar levels. One is the simple pinprick for current blood
glucose, and the other is a blood sample taken after at least 8 hours of
fasting (HC1a), which determine blood sugars averages for the preceding
three months.

You say that you and his doctor have advised him on his destructive
behaviors. If you give advice to an adult in possession of his/her
faculties and they ignore it, that is there perogative. Perhaps you
should seek a conservatorship of your father, if he is making such bad
decisions.

In the future, if you have an herbal question, please pose it here.
If you just have spam, piss off.

In article
<b4e59e9d-f5a0-4a6f-8f82-d736e7db66a1@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,

> My dad recently visited me here in California.  He is 65, living in
> Baltimore, MD, and has been diagnosed with Chronic Venous
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>
> ~RBCA
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dynamicbliss@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2008 02:50 GMT
Billy,

No, this is not a fictional post.  No product push intended.  My
sister and the doctor he visited out here were both suggesting the
test involving fasting, and from what I understand is the most
accurate test.  My dad, for whatever reason, does not seem interested
in doing the test, and insists he is not diabetic.

My post is a call out to any people here who may know of herbal
remedies or paths of healing through herbs that might be missed on
other groups.  I see that people really try to read between the lines
here, such as Robert removing part of his response because I cross-
posted my inquiry on a low-fat newsgroup, go figure.

I am a 40 year old son of a suffering 65 year old dad who's reaching
out to people for help - it's as simple as that.  This is not spam.
Remember, "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of
mine, you did for [the Lord]."

If you can help, offer help, please.  The post was not a request for
criticism and doubt.

~RBCA

> This melodrama (fictional I presume) would have been more
> convincing if you had known less and weren't pushing a commercial
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> Billy
> Bush and Pelosi Behind Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related
Robert Miles - 19 Jul 2008 03:54 GMT
Some people on other diabetic newsgroups have reported that
adding cinnamon to your diet helps with diabetes, although not
very much; some have reported that it doesn't make a noticeable
difference for them; and one reported that it made her diabetes
worse.  In other words, expect to have to use a blood glucose
meter to tell which it does for a particular person.

Some vegetables that avoid problems for diabetics:

http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm

Some info on high-protein diets:

<http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080514/diet_study_080514/2
0080514?hub=Health
>

Some info on turmeric or curry powder helping:

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/21/curry-vs-obesity-and.html

http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/news.asp?artid=11840

Some info on the different types of fats:

http://sparkofreason.blogspot.com/2008/06/swift-kick-in-asp.html

Avoid noni juice, which is often sold with claims that it helps
diabetes, but is more likely to reduce the balance in your checkbook
than to actually offer any help.

> Billy,
>
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>> Bush and Pelosi Behind
>> Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related
Billy - 19 Jul 2008 07:25 GMT
In article
<d032c187-0519-4d9e-9d2d-37b053eab2ff@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

> Billy,
>
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> > Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.you
> > tube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related

As I mentioned, a single drop of blood will tell if he is
hyperglycemic. If he doesn't care, then there isn't much you can do to
help him. You might tell him that they will start by whittling toes off
of him and then a leg. But until he admits that he has a problem, tere
isn't a lot you can do for him. Vitamines aren't much help but with a
good diet cinnamon, blueberry leaves and, bitter melon can help.
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