typical Janster ...simply re posts those of others

ever heard of copyright laws??

come back when you have the brains and background to at least write a word
or two from your own brain

NB: this has nothing to do with breast implants or
the environment, so please respect the follow-ups
and leave them in peace.

Aren't you the one who's always complaining about
/ad hominem/ attacks?

Which part is a lie, John?

That he was retained by plaintiffs to testify that
vaccines caused autism, *before* he did his "study?"

That his "representative subjects" were mostly the
the nominal plaintiffs in the UK lawsuit?

That he had patented a supposedly safer measles vaccine
before announcing the horrors of the current one?

That he sent out his intestinal samples to the top lab
for PCR analysis, which informed him that the only
traces of measles in the samples were from a strain
that doesn't exist in the wild but was in use in his
laboratory?

That he then sent the samples to another lab which was
already on retainer from the plaintiffs?

Which of these is a lie, John?  Do keep in mind that
all of these are backed up by primary documents, not
just your usual statements of opinion.

+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+

Wakefield is completely discredited.  He withheld information from
publishers and his fellow researchers about the vast sums paid to him
by solicitors.  He built a theory based upon the presence of measles
virus in the gut and when it couldn't be found went to a laboratory
set up purely to provide analytic services to the solicitors who
employed him.  When that one (Unigenetics Ltd) "found" measles it was
patently obvious from their own data that their samples were
contaminated.

Unigenetics would not hand over the data necessary to check their
reported findings until ordered to do so by the High Court (2004 EWHC
1098 (QB) Royal Courts of Justice ).  They closed shortly afterwards.
http://www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/News/MR_MMR_litigation_Transcript

Legal Aid funding for the MMR trial was withdrawn when it became
apparent that the presence of measles RNA in the gut, the essential
point of their case, was not being found when the samples  were
retested in other laboratories (including one nominated by the
claimants) and showed negative.

Notwithstanding that his reputation as a scientist is in tatters
Wakefield today is a much wealthier man than he would have been had he
stayed in research.

 You sure?  Most men, when presented with a little flash of Silicone, lose
most of their brainpower almost immediately.

Ilena Rose    View profile

http://ilenarose.blogspot.com

Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal applauds Jenny McCarthy. Some in our support
group have mentioned a possible environmental link with her breast implants
also. Many of us believe that genetic predispositions coupled with an
onslaught of other environmental factors: aluminum     and / or   mercury
and / or     platinum     and / or   silicone     and / or   pesticides and
/or   pharmaceuticals      and / or   vaccinations     and / or   second
hand smoke     and / or    etc. etc. etc.) . . . in some permutation and
combination,  make these syndromes and diseases difficult to quantify and
fit in neat little diagnoses.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/04/02/mccarthy.autsimtreatment/index.html

EXCERPT: We believe autism is an environmental illness. Vaccines are not the
only environmental trigger, but we do think they play a major role.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Editor's note: Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are actors and
parents actively involved in autism-related causes. McCarthy is the author
of the book "Louder Than Words: A Mother's Journey in Healing Autism."
(CNN) -- In light of the recent Hannah Poling decision, in which the federal
court conceded that vaccines could have contributed to her autism, we think
the tide is finally turning in the direction of parents like us who have
been shouting concerns from our rooftops for years. art.jenny.mc.jpg Actress
Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed to her son's
autism. Autism is a debilitating disorder, which according to the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention, is suffered by 1 in 150 kids, making it
more common than childhood cancer, diabetes and AIDS combined. Recently,
England and Ireland reported that autism is affecting one in 58 individuals.
Is it any wonder that autism has become many new parents' No. 1 fear? We've
met some of the most amazing moms and dads who are forging their own path to
prevention and recovery. When our son, Evan, was diagnosed with autism we
were lucky enough to benefit from their knowledge and experience. Evan has
been healed to a great extent by many breakthroughs that, while perhaps not
scientifically proven, have definitely helped Evan and many other children
who are recovering from autism. Video Parents vs. scientists: Watch the
latest test case » There are some who wonder what we mean when we say
"recovering" from autism. They confuse the word recover with cure. While you
may not be able to cure an injury caused in a terrible car accident, you can
recover; you can regain many skills that you once lost. In the case of
autism, we think there are treatments that often bring about such healing,
so that the observable symptoms of the condition no longer exist. Even
though we may no longer see any symptoms of autism, we can't say a child is
"cured" because we do not know what they would have been like had they never
been injured. We believe what helped Evan recover was starting a
gluten-free, casein-free diet, vitamin supplementation, detox of metals, and
anti-fungals for yeast overgrowth that plagued his intestines. Once Evan's
neurological function was recovered through these medical treatments, speech
therapy and applied behavior analysis helped him quickly learn the skills he
could not learn while he was frozen in autism. After we implemented these
therapies for one year, the state re-evaluated Evan for further services.
They spent five minutes with Evan and said, "What happened? We've never seen
a recovery like this." Evan is now 5 years old and what might surprise a lot
of you is that we've never been contacted by a single member of the CDC, the
American Academy of Pediatrics, or any other health authority to evaluate
and understand how Evan recovered from autism. When Evan meets doctors and
neurologists, to this day they tell us he was misdiagnosed -- that he never
had autism to begin with. It's as if they are wired to believe that children
can't recover from autism. Video Watch CDC chief on vaccines, autism » So
where's the cavalry? Where are all the doctors beating down our door to take
a closer look at Evan? We think we know why they haven't arrived. Most of
the parents we've met who have recovered their child from autism as we did
(and we have met many) blame vaccines for their child's autism. We think our
health authorities don't want to open this can of worms, so they don't even
look or listen. While there is strong debate on this topic, many parents of
recovered children will tell you they didn't treat their child for autism;
they treated them for vaccine injury. Read about latest fight over vaccines
and autism Many people aren't aware that in the 1980s our children received
only 10 vaccines by age 5, whereas today they are given 36 immunizations,
most of them by age 2. With billions of pharmaceutical dollars, could it be
possible that the vaccine program is becoming more of a profit engine then a
means of prevention? Don't Miss     * Vaccines, autism link divide parents
and scientists     * iReport.com: Living with Autism     * In Depth:
Unraveling autism's mystery     * CDC: Autism information center We believe
autism is an environmental illness. Vaccines are not the only environmental
trigger, but we do think they play a major role. If we are going to solve
this problem and finally start to reverse the rate of autism, we need to
consider changing the vaccine schedule, reducing the number of shots given
and removing certain ingredients that could be toxic to some children. We
take into account that some children have reactions to medicines like
penicillin, for example, yet when it comes to vaccines we are operating as
if our kids have a universal tolerance for them. We are acting like ONE SIZE
FITS ALL. That is, at the very least, a huge improbability. Even if the CDC
is not convinced of a link between vaccines and autism, changing the vaccine
schedule should be seriously considered as a precautionary measure. (If you
would like to see some ideas for alternative schedules, check out
http://generationrescue.org.) advertisement We wish to state, very clearly,
that we are not against all vaccines, but we do believe there is strong
evidence to suggest that some of the ingredients may be hazardous and that
our children are being given too many, too soon!
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From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:19:09 -0600
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Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal applauds Jenny McCarthy. Some in our
support group have mentioned a possible environmental link with her
breast implants also.

Many of us believe that genetic predispositions coupled with an
onslaught of other environmental factors:

aluminum     and / or
mercury     and / or
platinum     and / or
silicone     and / or
pesticides and /or
pharmaceuticals      and / or
vaccinations     and / or
second hand smoke     and / or
etc. etc. etc.)

. . . in some permutation and combination,  make these syndromes and
diseases difficult to quantify and fit in neat little diagnoses.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/04/02/mccarthy.autsimtreatment/index.html

EXCERPT: We believe autism is an environmental illness. Vaccines are
not the only environmental trigger, but we do think they play a major
role.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Editor's note: Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are actors and parents
actively involved in autism-related causes. McCarthy is the author of
the book "Louder Than Words: A Mother's Journey in Healing Autism."

(CNN) -- In light of the recent Hannah Poling decision, in which the
federal court conceded that vaccines could have contributed to her
autism, we think the tide is finally turning in the direction of
parents like us who have been shouting concerns from our rooftops for
years.
art.jenny.mc.jpg

Actress Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed
to her son's autism.

Autism is a debilitating disorder, which according to the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention, is suffered by 1 in 150 kids, making
it more common than childhood cancer, diabetes and AIDS combined.

Recently, England and Ireland reported that autism is affecting one in
58 individuals.

Is it any wonder that autism has become many new parents' No. 1 fear?

We've met some of the most amazing moms and dads who are forging their
own path to prevention and recovery. When our son, Evan, was diagnosed
with autism we were lucky enough to benefit from their knowledge and
experience. Evan has been healed to a great extent by many
breakthroughs that, while perhaps not scientifically proven, have
definitely helped Evan and many other children who are recovering from
autism. Video Parents vs. scientists: Watch the latest test case »

There are some who wonder what we mean when we say "recovering" from
autism. They confuse the word recover with cure. While you may not be
able to cure an injury caused in a terrible car accident, you can
recover; you can regain many skills that you once lost. In the case of
autism, we think there are treatments that often bring about such
healing, so that the observable symptoms of the condition no longer
exist. Even though we may no longer see any symptoms of autism, we
can't say a child is "cured" because we do not know what they would
have been like had they never been injured.

We believe what helped Evan recover was starting a gluten-free,
casein-free diet, vitamin supplementation, detox of metals, and
anti-fungals for yeast overgrowth that plagued his intestines. Once
Evan's neurological function was recovered through these medical
treatments, speech therapy and applied behavior analysis helped him
quickly learn the skills he could not learn while he was frozen in
autism. After we implemented these therapies for one year, the state
re-evaluated Evan for further services. They spent five minutes with
Evan and said, "What happened? We've never seen a recovery like this."

Evan is now 5 years old and what might surprise a lot of you is that
we've never been contacted by a single member of the CDC, the American
Academy of Pediatrics, or any other health authority to evaluate and
understand how Evan recovered from autism. When Evan meets doctors and
neurologists, to this day they tell us he was misdiagnosed -- that he
never had autism to begin with. It's as if they are wired to believe
that children can't recover from autism. Video Watch CDC chief on
vaccines, autism »

So where's the cavalry? Where are all the doctors beating down our
door to take a closer look at Evan? We think we know why they haven't
arrived. Most of the parents we've met who have recovered their child
from autism as we did (and we have met many) blame vaccines for their
child's autism.

We think our health authorities don't want to open this can of worms,
so they don't even look or listen. While there is strong debate on
this topic, many parents of recovered children will tell you they
didn't treat their child for autism; they treated them for vaccine
injury. Read about latest fight over vaccines and autism

Many people aren't aware that in the 1980s our children received only
10 vaccines by age 5, whereas today they are given 36 immunizations,
most of them by age 2. With billions of pharmaceutical dollars, could
it be possible that the vaccine program is becoming more of a profit
engine then a means of prevention?
Don't Miss

   * Vaccines, autism link divide parents and scientists
   * iReport.com: Living with Autism
   * In Depth: Unraveling autism's mystery
   * CDC: Autism information center

We believe autism is an environmental illness. Vaccines are not the
only environmental trigger, but we do think they play a major role. If
we are going to solve this problem and finally start to reverse the
rate of autism, we need to consider changing the vaccine schedule,
reducing the number of shots given and removing certain ingredients
that could be toxic to some children.

We take into account that some children have reactions to medicines
like penicillin, for example, yet when it comes to vaccines we are
operating as if our kids have a universal tolerance for them. We are
acting like ONE SIZE FITS ALL. That is, at the very least, a huge
improbability.

Even if the CDC is not convinced of a link between vaccines and
autism, changing the vaccine schedule should be seriously considered
as a precautionary measure. (If you would like to see some ideas for
alternative schedules, check out http://generationrescue.org.)
advertisement

We wish to state, very clearly, that we are not against all vaccines,
but we do believe there is strong evidence to suggest that some of the
ingredients may be hazardous and that our children are being given too
many, too soon!

On Jul 15, 2:53 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:

No, she did not write that.  You Mark S Probert harrasser, name called and
proven liar did.