On Jul 7, 1:06 pm, "vernono" <vern...@there.com> wrote:

No, because anti-vac liars, the merchants of disease, disability and
death, will never stop their crusade to kill children.

And, besides, vaccines have absolutely nothing to do with autism.

I was curious because I ran across an old service record and I thought of
the millions who took shots and all I ever heard of was some sore arms and
once in a great while a mild case of flue.  Oh, there was always the fainter
or twenty year old screamer.

The U.S has nothing to brag about on infant death.  I just can't fathom the
idea of giving an infant anything foreign.  It's tough enough to determine
infant allergies without just shooting them up with dozens of whatever.  It
seems to me that few, very few, got any disease until after they got to
school (6yrs old).  I'm trying to see if anyone has any logic to"invading" a
child under maybe two years old, or even four..

I agree with you on the hot topic of autism, but it sure would be nice to
find a preventive / avoidance factor.

On Jul 7, 1:06 pm, "vernono" <vern...@there.com> wrote:

No, because anti-vac liars,

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the merchants of disease, disability and
death, will never stop their crusade to kill children.

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And, besides, vaccines have absolutely nothing to do with autism.

Blatant lie, Mark S Probert.

Autism Epidemic Soars in America

The number of children diagnosed with autism in America is continuing to
increase at a rate of more than 20% a year, according to the latest figures
published by the US Department of Health.

The figures show that in the year 1999/2000 the number of schoolchildren in
America with autism was 65,396 compared with 53,576 the previous year.

Figures have risen steeply since the reporting of autism became mandatory in
American schools in 1991. At first the increase was attributed to better
reporting of the condition but after nine years some experts argue that the
consistent rise must demonstrate an actual rise in autism rates.

It is estimated that up to one in 175 primary school children are autistic.

The USA statistics are incontrovertible proof of the autism epidemic which
is sweeping the Western world. An epidemic which the health authorities are
shamefully trying to cover up.

'A request to the Scottish Executive, made almost two years ago, to
establish a register, by year of birth, of autistics, would have confirmed
that this tragic condition had gone from rare to common since 1990.'

Dr Ed Yazbak, a retired American pediatrician, insists that the increase is
real and argues that this can only be attributed to environmental factors.
He says vaccination may not be the only cause but is convinced that it plays
a part.

He said: 'These statistics tell us, not only that there has been a huge
increase in autism rates in the last 20 years, but also that this increase
is not stopping.'

He also argues that the increase cannot just be the result of better
diagnosis because the same diagnostic techniques have been used since 1994.

'The criteria for diagnosing children has not changed and the people giving
the diagnosis have not changed therefore this must be an increase in numbers
and this must be due to environmental factors. We may find that this is
being caused by something other than vaccination but it is certainly not
genetic because this happens in the second year of life.'

The US has an extensive vaccination program, with babies given their first
vaccine against Hepatitis B in the first two days of life and another two
doses before they are 18 months old. Children also have five doses of
diphtheria and tetanus, two doses of MMR, four of the Hib, (for meningitis),
one of chickenpox, four of the polio vaccine and now four doses of a vaccine
to prevent ear infections before they go to school.

'There are definitely too many vaccines,' said Yazbak. 'I don't think it is
just vaccines but it is pretty crazy to give vaccines on the first day of
life when the child doesn't need.'

Raymond Gallup, president of the Autism Auto-immunity Project, a US campaign
group, said: 'I attribute this increase to over-vaccination. There is no
doubt about it and MMR is the most problematic one. Children are definitely
getting too many vaccines too early in life.'

http://www.autismone.org/download2006.cfm

http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library/Danish%20Thimerosal-Autism%20St
udy%20in%20Pediatrics.pdf

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

http://www.generationrescue.org/images/060406.gif

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,128969.shtml

Vaccinated Children Two and a Half Times More Likely to Have Neurological
Disorders Like ADHD and Autism, New Survey in California and Oregon Finds

PORTLAND, Ore., June 26 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- As the first trial in
Vaccine Court explores the relationship between vaccines and autism, a new
survey released today indicates a strong correlation between rates of
neurological disorders, such as ADHD and autism, and childhood vaccinations.

The survey, commissioned by Generation Rescue, compared vaccinated and
unvaccinated children in nine counties in Oregon and California. Among more
than 9,000 boys age 4-17, the survey found vaccinated boys were two and a
half times (155%) more likely to have neurological disorders compared to
their unvaccinated peers. Vaccinated boys were 224% more likely to have
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), and 61% more likely to have
autism.

For older vaccinated boys in the 11-17 age bracket, the results were even
more pronounced. Vaccinated boys were 158% more likely to have a
neurological disorder, 317% more likely to have ADHD, and 112% more likely
to have autism. Complete survey results are available at
http://www.generationrescue.org/.

Generation Rescue commissioned the phone survey. Data was gathered by
SurveyUSA, a national market research firm, which surveyed parents by phone
on more than 17,000 children, ages 4-17, in five counties in California (San
Diego, Sonoma, Orange, Sacramento, and Marin) and four counties in Oregon
(Multnomah, Marion, Jackson, and Lane).

The survey asked parents whether their child had been vaccinated, and
whether that child had one or more of the following diagnoses: Attention
Deficit Disorder (ADD), ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome, Pervasive Development
Disorder -- Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS), or Autism. The phone survey
was chosen to mirror the methodology the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)
uses to establish national prevalence for neurological disorders in their
national phone survey.

Timed to the release of the survey results, Generation Rescue also ran
full-page advertisements in Washington's Roll Call, The Oregonian, and The
Orange County Register today. The ad compares the 36 pediatric vaccines the
CDC recommends today to the 10 recommended in 1983, and asks, "Are We Over-
Vaccinating Our Kids?"

"No one has ever compared prevalence rates of these neurological disorders
between vaccinated and unvaccinated children," said J.B. Handley, co-founder
of Generation Rescue, whose son was diagnosed with autism. "The phone survey
isn't perfect, but these numbers point to the need for a comprehensive
national study to gather this critical information."

In Washington, Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) has been advocating for
such a survey. Co-sponsored by Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) and Rep. Ron Paul
(R-TX), the "Comprehensive Comparative Study of Vaccinated and Unvaccinated
Population Act of 2006," or H.R. 2832, was introduced on June 22, and would
require the National Institutes of Health to complete this research.

"Generation Rescue's study is impressive and forcefully raises some serious
questions about the relationship between vaccines and autism. What is
ultimately needed to resolve this issue one way or the other is a
comprehensive national study of vaccinated and unvaccinated children," said
Congresswoman Maloney. "The parents behind Generation Rescue only want
information. These parents deserve more than road blocks, they deserve
answers. We can and should move forward in search of those answers. That's
why I have introduced a common sense bill that would require the National
Institutes of Health (NIH) to conduct a comprehensive, comparative study on
the possible link between autism and thimerosal."

From 1983 to 2007, autism rates have climbed from 1 in 10,000 children to 1
in 150 children, a growth rate of 6,000% (boys are significantly more
affected by neurological disorders, accounting for approximately 80% of all
cases). ADHD currently affects 1 in 13 children. In the same period, the
CDC's recommended vaccine schedule more than tripled. The simmering debate
over the cause of childhood neurological disorders shows no sign of cooling,
but no study had ever been done to look at unvaccinated children.

Lisa Handley, co-founder of Generation Rescue, adds, "Everyone working with
autism wants to identify the cause so we can focus on treatment and
prevention. A national study like HR 5940 could help end this debate and
focus all of our resources on helping our kids. Its time has come, and we
hope Congress will choose to put our children first."

About Generation Rescue

Generation Rescue was formed by parents of children who have been diagnosed
with childhood neurological disorders (NDs), and is dedicated to examining
the causes and biomedical treatments for Autism, Asperger's, ADHD, ADD,
PDD-NOS, and other learning disabilities. Visit
http://www.generationrescue.org/ for more information and to see complete
survey results. Generation Rescue

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com:80/medicalnews.php?newsid=69427

Thimerosal Linked To Autism: New Clinical Findings
Main Category: Autism News
Article Date: 30 Apr 2007 - 19:00 PDT

The Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, Part A: Current Issues,
an authoritative journal featuring original toxicological research, has
published, "A Case Series of Children with Apparent Mercury Toxic
Encephalopathies Manifesting with Clinical Symptoms of Regressive Autistic
Disorders," by Geier and Geier (2007).

This new study leaves little doubt there is a direct causal link between
mercury exposure from Thimerosal-preserved biological products (vaccines and
Rho(D) products) and mercury poisoning diagnosed as an autism spectrum
disorder (ASD).

Thimerosal (49.55% mercury by weight) is a highly toxic mercury compound
used as a preservative in some OTC and prescription drugs, including most
flu shots given to pregnant women, infants, children, adults, and the
elderly.

On April 19, 2007, Dr. Larry L. Needham, Chief, Organic Analytical
Toxicology Branch, CDC, announced to the US National Academy of Sciences'
Institute of Medicine that Thimerosal was among the "Chemicals Linked to
ASD."

Thus, Geier and Geier (2007) provide the first clinical case-series of ASD
patients that confirmed this causal role for Thimerosal-preserved drugs in
patients having a regressive ASD diagnosis.

The Geiers describe a case-series of eight patients who had:

-- a regressive ASD diagnosis,

-- elevated levels of androgens,

-- excreted significant amounts of mercury after a chelation challenge,

-- biochemical evidence of decreased function in their glutathione pathways,

-- no known significant mercury exposures except from Thimerosal-preserved
vaccines and Rho(D)-immune globulin preparations, and

-- alternative causes for their regressive ASDs ruled out.

This clinical study also found a significant dose-response relationship
between the severity of the ASD symptoms and the total mercury dose these
children received from Thimerosal-preserved drugs.

Based on differential diagnosis, these patients were exposed to significant
mercury amounts from Thimerosal-preserved biologic drugs during their fetal
and neonatal development as well as between 12 and 24 months of age. Thus,
these initially normally developing children suffered mercury toxic
encephalopathies that manifested with clinical symptoms consistent with
their regressive ASD diagnosis.

Hence, mercury poisoning should be considered as a cause for those children
exhibiting the symptoms of an ASD in any differential diagnosis designed to
assess underlying causes.

Today, any parent or other healthcare provider can easily confirm whether,
or not, a non-chelated autistic child is mercury poisoned by having urinary
porphyrin profile analysis (UPPA) testing run at LabCorp (Test#120980) or
Laboratoire Philippe Auguste (Urine Porphyrin Profile).

For additional information on UPPA testing for mercury poisoning, please
visit the "UPPA" page on CoMeD's web site, www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org.

Dr. King
www.dr-king.com

http://www.a-champ.org/documents/geier%20Early%20Downward%20Trends%20JAPS%203-1-
06.pdf

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2005/02/1991_memo_warned_of_mercury_in_shots.html

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/06/study_vaccines_mercury_causes_autismlike_signs
_in_mice.htm

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/06/thimerosal_autism_symptoms_in_mice_linked_to_v
accine_ingredient_study.html

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/04/thimerosal_mercury_and_autism_vaccine_inaction
_a_sore_point.html

http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/research/index.html