Promises are cheap.  Make sure that you get a bond from anyone
who talks you into going off of dialysis; that at least will
take care of your dependents.

+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+

Weak kidneys DO have a problem with the things you list, because your
kidneys are weak.  I have never heard of a substitute for dialysis.

In my particular case I was told that my kidneys were failing and I would
soon be on dialysis.  I had been taking diuretics too strong for too long.
I could not get off the diuretics.
Anyway:::::
I started taking a mixture of "pure" Cranberry juice, Black Cherry juice and
Blueberry juice twice a day, totaling 8oz.  I didn't feel like eating a half
cup of each twice a day.  I also took 1000 mg of turmeric a day and 10 grams
of d-ribose twice a day.  It wasn't long, about 90 days, and the test showed
that my kidneys and incidentally my liver was normal, if not better than the
average.

Now that is NOT a substitute for dialysis.  It is getting the kidneys
healthy enough to where they don't need it.  Of course, once total kidney
failure takes place, that's it.

listen to your brother...he is giving you wise information....

once your kidneys have failed to the point of needing dialysis..no
alternative or "natural" healing methods can heal you..and your docs are
correct in warning you that some "herbs etc" could make you very very
sick..in fact..be fatal (your kidneys are needed to remove excess fluids,
and things such as potassium)

My brother, a physician said the

your brother is correct..the natural health folks are not...kidneys are not
like your liver,,which can in fact restore its function....

The kidney doctor also doesn't want

if you are in the us...dialysis patients are covered under a special section
of Medicare..regardless of age...kidney disease is officially called End
Stage Renal Disease or ESRD...you can google this for more info

if you are NOT in the us..sorry..have no help to offer you

there is also kidney transplantation....you may want to ask your doc about
that

from a nurse with 18 years experience in dialysis

good luck

On Jul 6, 1:23 pm, OhioDave <ohiod...@neo.rr.com> wrote:he says they
are crazy<<

<<snip>>
These data show that the iron chelator treated the kidney diseases.
<<snip>>

Iron Chelator Treatment of Patients with Kidney Disease

Patients with kidney disease who had abnormally high urinary protein
were treated with the iron chelator deferiprone (1,2-dimethyl-3-
hydroxypyrid-4-one) (L1). Deferiprone was synthesized as previously
described capsule (Kontoghiorghes A. J., etal., Inorganica Chimica
Acta 136:L11 L12 (1987), the teachings of which are hereby
incorporated by reference in it entirety) and formulated into
capsules
containing 500 mg of deferiprone per capsule.

Urinary protein and serum creatinine was measured as described above
before the administration of deferiprone. Patients were treated by
oral ingestion of deferiprone in a range between about 30 mg and
about
75 mg deferiprone per kilogram bodyweight per day 3 times a day.
Urinary protein and serum creatinine was obtained 2 6 months after
the
administration of the iron chelator. As shown in Table 3, treatment
with the iron chelator significantly decreased the amount of total
urinary proteinand serum creatinine in patients with kidney disease.
Total urinary protein and serum creatinine measured before (e.g.,
pretreatment) and after the administration of deferiprone were
compared using a paired t-test and p-value of <0.05 was
consideredsignificant.

These data show that the iron chelator treated the kidney diseases.
Therefore, it is believed that the effect of catalytic iron can be
significantly reduced or prevented from acting directly or indirectly
on the kidney to injure the kidney,thereby causing kidney disease,
which if left untreated (no iron chelator) would result in an
increase
in total urinary protein content and serum creatinine.

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Dave:
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http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=630

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On Jul 6, 1:23 pm, OhioDave <ohiod...@neo.rr.com> wrote:can't be
rejuvenated <<

"Doppler tests confirm that chronic kidney disease can be reversed"

An Effective Treatment Alternative for Cancer, Osteoporosis & Kidney
Disease: GEMM Therapy Unveiled

BOSTON (Business Wire EON) October 1, 2007 -- GEMM Therapy has been
successfully used in Europe to treat patients suffering from cancer,
osteoporosis and chronic kidney disease who did not respond to
conventional treatments. Healthia SA will be presenting this
groundbraking technology at Medtech Insight's In3 East Medical
Technology Conference in Boston on October 4, 2007.

Secrets of Molecular Communication

We have been extensively utilizing radio waves in all kinds of
communications such as cell phones, radio, television and wi-fi.
However medical community acts as if nature was not wise enough to
benefit from this sophisticated form of communication to harmonize
thousands of interactions taking place among billions of molecules at
any given time in a living cell.
"Most of the current theories on cellular communication are
inadequate
to explain the actual mechanisms. At the cellular level molecules
primarily communicate via radio waves which is the universal language
of the nature. Through signal transduction they convert these signals
to regulate a wide range of chemical reactions. By externally
applying
comparable radio waves, it is possible to intervene with the targeted
chemical reactions to obtain the desired outcomes." says Dr. Seckiner
Gorgun, M.D. who is the inventor of GEMM. "We have been extensively
utilizing radio waves in all kinds of communications such as cell
phones, radio, television and wi-fi. However medical community acts
as
if nature was not wise enough to benefit from this sophisticated form
of communication to harmonize thousands of interactions taking place
among billions of molecules at any given time in a living cell."

"There is a very complex and delicate yet mostly unknown
communication
mechanism exist inside the cells where the relevant information are
coded on the electrostatic fields of certain molecules such as
proteins, glycoproteins and ions just like information is coded on
the
magnetic fields of credit cards or keycards. Properly coded messenger
molecules interact with their target molecules functioning as
decoders
to initiate specific reactions. Additionally sensory molecules
behaving as antennas can also communicate remotely via radio waves to
exchange information. Their unique three dimensional structures
differentiates their antenna properties for transmitting or
responding
to different resonant frequencies. But when mutations or free
radicals
damage the structure of these molecules, their miscommunication may
eventually lead to various diseases. Fortunately we can intervene and
correct those malfunctioning processes by remotely sending special
radio waves with GEMM Device where their frequency, amplitude,
modulation and power is determined according to certain parameters."
says Dr Gorgun.

Alternative Cancer Treatment with GEMM

Glycoprotein sensors at the mitochondria regulate the energy
production rate of a cell. A damage to their structure will make them
ultrasensitive and instead of responding only to selective messages
send from the nucleus, they begin to respond to any kind of messages
they obtain from the environment to continuously trigger energy
production. This excess energy accumulation forces the cell to enter
into a premature, uncontrolled cell division and is the critical
point
that will finally lead to cancer.

GEMM Device transmits radio waves with the corresponding parameters
to
block both the glycolysis reactions and the activity of the damaged
glycoprotein sensors in order to prevent energy production in the
cancer cells. This will quickly kill the cancer cells whereas the
healthy cells without damaged glycoproteins are not affected. In many
terminal cancer patients treated with GEMM Therapy, a significant
shrinkage of the tumors even during the very first sessions were
observed. Improved quality of life, symptomatic relief, extended
survival time or lasting cures are common outcomes of the treatment.

Alternative Osteoporosis Treatment with GEMM

Calcium ions are widely used as secondary messengers to carry
information in the body. In osteoporosis the major problem is not the
lack of calcium but a damage in the mechanism that codes the correct
information to the calcium ions in their electrostatic fields.
Without
the correct coding, the necessary reactions to integrate calcium into
the bone can not take place. This also explains why extra calcium
supplementation alone does not help much to reverse osteoporosis.
GEMM
Therapy restores the damaged coding mechanism of the calcium ions so
that the bone remodeling process begins to take place normally.
Irrespective of the severity of their condition, bone mineral
densities of osteoporosis patients tend to completely normalize
within
a year following the treatment.

Alternative Kidney Disease Treatment with GEMM

After birth, once the electrostatic field around the body changes
kidney cells like lose their regenerative capabilities. It is not
possible to regenerate the damaged kidney cells in a regular
environment. GEMM Device delivers special radio waves to generate an
electrostatic field around the damaged kidney cells to mimic the
embryonic conditions that will eventually initiate a regenerative
process. In treated patients almost 100% increases in the thickness
of
kidney parenchyma and accompanying improvements in IVP and Doppler
tests confirm that chronic kidney disease can be reversed by GEMM
Therapy.

The patented, CE Certified GEMM Device has been used in Europe since
1987 to successfully treat hundreds of otherwise hopeless patients.
"Now it is the time for the world to more know about this outstanding
technology that provides a very safe, effective and affordable
solution to various diseases and conditions" says Samil Ozavar, the
President of Healthia SA of Switzerland which holds exclusive rights
to GEMM.

A detailed overview of the GEMM Therapy with several references is
accessible at www.gemm-therapy.com

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I was diagnosed with chronic glomerulonephritis by biopsy when I was
about 24-25 years old. I'll be 58 next month. I've been free of the
disease for over 30 years after dealing with it for about 4-5 years.

So yes, the kidneys can be improved. It's a lot trickier when you're
on dialysis.

If it were me, I'd take proteolytic enzymes on an empty stomach with
water. The tricky part is how much water you can drink. You might
contact William Wong, N.D., PhD, to get his advice.

The protein enymes can improve schlerosis, by dissolving the fibrin
and the scar tissue caused by fibrin.

The best to you.

Kelley Eidem