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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / July 2008Patenting Vitamins
Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to Protect Pharma Profits www.naturalnews.com/023514.html (NaturalNews) Big Pharma is constantly finding new ways to destroy the natural supplements market, in much the same way that the American Medical Association once sought to destroy the chiropractic industry (for which it was later found guilty of conspiracy in U.S. courts, by the way). The latest attack against vitamins comes from an FDA petition filed by Medicure Pharma, Inc., which has astonishingly asked the FDA to ban the sale of Vitamin B6! Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to > Protect Pharma Profits > www.naturalnews.com/023514.html FDALawBlog gives the following less biased take: Medicure Pharma submitted a citizen petition to FDA that asserts that all dietary supplements containing pyridoxal 5’-phosphate (“P5P supplements”) are adulterated under FDC Act § 402(f). The petition asserts that P5P (a form of vitamin B6) is a new dietary ingredient which has neither been present in the food supply as an article used for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered, nor has it been the subject of a new dietary ingredient notification. The petition further asserts that those supplements were therefore not lawfully marketed prior to the date on which the investigation of P5P as a drug triggered the dietary supplement exclusionary clause in FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii). The petition asks FDA to remove all P5P supplements from the market, or in the alternative, to initiate rulemaking under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) to exclude them from the statutory definition of a dietary supplement. Medicure Pharma is investigating a drug product under an Investigational New Drug Application that contains P5P as its active ingredient, and the company contends that marketing of P5P supplements undermines the company’s incentive to continue developing its drug product. The success or failure of the petition will turn on a few issues. First, the petition contends that P5P is a new dietary ingredient because it was not marketed before October 15, 1994. This is certain to prompt a thorough search on the part of P5P supplement manufacturers for evidence of marketing prior to that date. Second, the petition contends that P5P has not been “present in the food supply as an article used for food” within the meaning of FDC Act § 413(a)(1) because the presence of P5P in foods is “incidental.” However, the Institute of Medicine recognizes that P5P is one of the major forms of vitamin B6 in animal tissues, and that animal tissues are a source of vitamin B6. Third, the petition contends that even extensive marketing of a dietary supplement does not forestall application of the dietary supplement exclusionary clause if the supplement was marketed unlawfully. Although the petition acknowledges that a plain reading of the exclusionary clause does not support this view, the petition asks FDA to read the term “lawfully” (as in “lawfully marketed”) into the exclusionary clause on the ground that not doing so would yield absurd results. Finally, the petition contends that, even if P5P is lawfully marketed as a dietary supplement, FDA can prohibit any further marketing under section 201(ff)(3)(A) to help preserve incentives for new drug development. In doing so, the petition fails to acknowledge that FDA’s rulemaking authority under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) is tied to a finding of adulteration under § 402(f), a finding that could be difficult to support in the case of a form of vitamin B6. -- Ron while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate in the decision making process of regulation and enforcement - this bunch lobbies against virtually any proposal, regulation, or activity in the name of 'protecting' the individual - all the while making an extremely good living promoting their own products and services free from the very same regulations that the pharmas have to abide by - regulations that when applied fairly do help to protect the public good. the website, naturenews, owned by a registered taiwanese corp - 'truth publishing', with anonymous site registration, is situated outside the usa 'specifically' for the purpose of not being under the jurisdiction of any us fed or state laws their own words: "Furthermore, NaturalNews.com will never share its subscriber database with any government agency such as the FDA. In fact, Truth Publishing (the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United States and does not answer to U.S. authorities." as to the statements, claims, or commentaries made - while they claim to be so independent of advertising and the like - in realty they are the creation of the supplement industry and the primary listed editor/author is a guy named mike adams - easy to find here in the states with seminars, books, etc. while i have occasionally read an unbiased piece they've put out - the overwhelming majority is so slanted it cannot be read as 'news' of any sort - the 'truth' of their publishing is that they don't want to be bothered with having you know who they really are - while they write promoting a very particular agenda of let us do whatever we want. they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that they rail against their interest is in trying to protect themselves from having to be regulated as to product purity, efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made anecdotally, and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s) > On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > -- > Ron > while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda > and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > primary listed editor/author is a guy named mike adams - easy to find > here in the states with seminars, books, etc. Is that right? Please do show this *in reality*. Mike Adams tells it like it is. Period. > while i have occasionally read an unbiased piece they've put out - the > overwhelming majority is so slanted it cannot be read as 'news' of any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with having you know who they really are - while they write promoting a > very particular agenda of let us do whatever we want. Not so. Mike Adams's agenda is to tell the *truth* and expose organized medicine, Which includes Big Phrama, FDA, CDC, AMA, ADA, etc., and their lies. > they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that > they rail against Blatant lie. > their interest is in trying to protect themselves from > having to be regulated as to product purity, > efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made > anecdotally, Another blatant lie. > and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s) Correct. So what? Peter Bowditch posts his spam, books, things to sell and his many lies. It is noted you have never mentioned that. >> On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >> > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> -- >> Ron jan - i'm simply not going to get into a 'liar', liar' argument with you, i will however respond to the general issue you have raised > > while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda > > and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Is that right? Please do show this *in reality*. first let me put it into the context of the article that started this thread: "natural supplements market" [>supplement industry] is a well established, well organized, well funded set of corporations, p.r. efforts, marketing entities, and independent commercial purveyors of products, literature, tapes, videos, seminars, etc. this "natural supplements market" [>supplement industry] is of itself, in it's arena, as well established and organized as 'big pharma' - with an agenda no different in intent than that of big pharma - promoting, protecting, and expanding the industry footprint in public awareness - and - in commerce. this "natural supplements market" [>supplement industry] has had since it's inception ongoing legal, and commercial conflicts with state and federal regulations here in the u.s.a, as well as virtually every other industrialized nation. issues of raw material supply and integrity of materials, processing plant procedures, purity of product, reliability of compounds, marketing claims, the list goes - note that this is, imo, no more, or less, egregious than the well documented issues extant throughout the prescription pharma industry. neither has clean hands or intent - it's commercial commerce at it's least moral. Naturally, the supplement industry evolution and organization pre-dates mike adams - he is simply too young to have been in the on the rise of the industry as a whole. now, mike adams - who is in fact a primary [if in fact not 'the'] actor in charge of naturenews it's owner truth publishing, and ancillary operations - is a highly versatile and accomplished individual. but is it as a result of the scope of the 'already' existing "natural supplements market" [>supplement industry] he found himself able to create a specific and diverse position for himself - this includes the aforementioned website [plus the various other ones also registered in taiwan [all operated under the same concept: "In fact, Truth Publishing (the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United States and does not answer to U.S. authorities." [note: adams is astute enough to have moved those operations off-shore because of the numerous issues related to what may or may not be written, claimed, or asserted under u.s. law.] multiple publishing operations, seminars, webseed, and also includes his software company - he is the developer of the first personalized email marketing software application designed for the personal computer. his operation depends upon that self same industry, and all of it's myriad offshoots - and as such, is a 'construct' of it. mike didn't make "natural supplements market" [>supplement industry] , it's existence made his interlocking operation possible. that's how business grows and evolves. > Mike Adams tells it like it is. partly true - anyone however, who is less than transparent with the general public as to the totality of their cross marketing is not operating purely as a voice - he is motivated by a very large commercial self-interest and as such, has less than pristine reasons for off-shore publishing. speaking only for my own orientation, i would have respect for someone who made the choice to continue to operate 'here' in the u.s.a. with any attendant difficulties - instead of using a loophole to gain a dubiously needed edge in what is allowed to be written. after all - why shouldn't information be required to have documentation of e the claims made - and the only reason i know of to be off-shore is to avoid that documentation. those that choose the loopholes are no better than the pharmco's who go to 3rd world countries to run clinical trials because the reg's are so much less onerous - both industries have their faults - both exaggerate to high heaven - both are selling and marketing, and hyping the public for sales... both are less than honest now you can say: > Period. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > medicine, > Which includes Big Phrama, FDA, CDC, AMA, ADA, etc., and their lies. so if that were the only purpose, why would it ever be necessary to locate off-shore: "In fact, Truth Publishing (the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United States and does not answer to U.S. authorities." a whole lot of claims and hype goes along with that publishing - and it doesn't have to answer to u.s. standards of proof. 'truth' becomes malleable and subjective when not subject to standards that all have to go by. > > they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that > > they rail against > > Blatant lie. nonsense - both are big business - both exist to sell something - both have a long history of problems of overreaching claims of efficacy, quality, and actual need for a product at all. i'm not going to give a pass to one side simply because it's 'not' pharma. > > their interest is in trying to protect themselves from > > having to be regulated as to product purity, > > efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made > > anecdotally, > > > Another blatant lie. you can disagree without being absolutist - it's hardly a lie to point out the well documented facts that the supplement industry has had just as many problems within it's members and operations as anything that goes on with pharma - if you say otherwise, then you are undereducated for someone who claims to speak knowledgeably i've been reading of problems with factories, importers of raw materials and impurities found, bad production standards, incorrect labeling and not least - wildly exaggerated claims of potency, efficacy, claims of 'cures', ad nauseum for several decades now - FOR BOTH industries... stop with the 'blatant lie' business just because you disagree about some issue. > > and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s) > > Correct. So what? being familiar with a great many of them - lack of documentation for claims contained in them - is one issue - any 'expert' has, imo, an obligation to the public that they market to to have honest information - i don't find that to be the case with some of what passes thru that operation > Peter Bowditch posts his spam, books, things to sell and his many lies. pb isn't the subject of the original post, nor is his brand of presentation at issue. bringing him into this doesn't address the point that 'both' industries have significant problems - neither has 'clean hands', neither has the high road as to what they do in production, marketing, unfounded claims, etc. > It is noted you have never mentioned that. nor any of so many others that 'could' be dragged up and dusted off - why should i have? it's well know that you and pb have tussled often and long - so what? he's not the issue here. in what manner does the action or word of one change the point or consideration of another? bluntly - bringing up another person as defense of a position is like saying: mommy! somebody is saying bad things about johhny, how can they do that? why aren't they saying bad things about billy? mommmmmmyyyyyyy billy does bad things, they should talk about him instead and leave johnny alone..... want to have a discussion on pb? fine, it'll bore the heck out of me - but that would also be a stand alone and not part of this one. anyone bored with the direction this has taken just ask for your group to be snipped and i'll be happy to oblige. > >> On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > >> > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >> -- > >> Ron > jan Jan, not jan, is not the subject. you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type as i do there is no intention to treat your name in the diminutive by not using caps as someone who is digitally impaired and does not have full control of my fingers, i seldom use cap letters, this would require use of shift key and i most often don't have that capability - at best it is difficult, on bad days it just plain hurts to much to execute the required keystrokes any perusal of my posts over the years will clearly show the deterioration over the years, and you can even find the really bad days when i mis-key altogether and frequently hit the key next to the one meant, and/or hit extra keys when my fingers spasm. and to answer the next obvious question - i also have soft tissue larynx issues that keep voice recognition software from working very well - so that's out as an alternative imput method. bottom line, i type as i do because i have to that is why it comes out as 'jan' > > jan > > Jan, not jan, is not the subject. > you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type > as i do [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > that is why it comes out as 'jan' Ok, Paul. Sorry to hear that. God Bless, Jan Drew >> > jan >> >> Jan, not jan, is not the subject. >> you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type >> as i do [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> difficult, on bad days it just plain hurts to much to execute the >> required keystrokes I don't even have a physical problem and make more errors than I see of yours. >> any perusal of my posts over the years will clearly show the >> deterioration over the years, and you can even find the really bad days [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> >>> Jan, not jan, is not the subject. > >> you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type > >> as i do [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't even have a physical problem and make more errors than I see of > yours. I'll second that comment. Most of my posting have some sort of data entry error and I have ten digits in good working order. <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> wrote in message news:54726feb-8aa1-4c57-bceb-bb65163cc3fb@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On Jun 29, 9:13 pm, "vernono" <vern...@there.com> wrote: > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I don't even have a physical problem and make more errors than I see of > yours. I'll second that comment. Most of my posting have some sort of data entry error and I have ten digits in good working order. I tell people that I have digital dyslexia. Actually I have re-read a typed paragraph and found words typed "exactly" backwards. > <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:54726feb-8aa1-4c57-bceb-bb65163cc3fb@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I tell people that I have digital dyslexia. Actually I have re-read a typed > paragraph and found words typed "exactly" backwards. lol - love it > > >> you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type > > >> as i do [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'll second that comment. Most of my posting have some sort > of data entry error and I have ten digits in good working order. sounds like you're typing two sentences behind your thoughts! <g> > I don't even have a physical problem and make more errors than I see of > yours. hey v - you do just fine! <g> de nada jan > > you don't know my situation, so you are entitled to a reason why i type > > as i do [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> > >> Jan, not jan, is not the subject. If vitamins and minerals [by themselves] cured any disorder or pain then doctors would prescribe them. I'll take science over the crap some people think they've discovered. Why not take your belief to the Next Level? Try to promote some cocktail of supplements and claim it can CURE cancer. I hope you do this, maybe it will put the last nail in the coffin of crap you guys spew. Minerals, supplements do nothing to cure illnesses or pain, period. >Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to >Protect Pharma Profits [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk I'll take science over the crap some people think they've discovered.Minerals, supplements do nothing to cure illnesses or pain, period. << This must be one of those paradoxes youse people who like to say "science rules" .. like to believe in .. ? Toxicon Volume 36, Issue 4, 8 May 1998, Pages 657-664 Abstract In the present investigation, it was found that oral supplementation of graded amounts of vitamin E to volunteers increased the -tocopherol content of the erythrocytes and decreased the susceptibility of the latter to the hemolytic action of cobra and viper venoms. Further, exogenous addition of graded amounts of -tocopherol to the red cells, prior to the addition of either venoms, minimizes the venom- induced lysis and erythrocyte phospholipid splitting. It may thus be inferred that vitamin E, a fat-soluble antioxidant, plays an important role in reducing the hemolytic action of cobra and viper venoms. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > If vitamins and minerals [by themselves] cured any disorder or pain > then doctors would prescribe them. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > If vitamins and minerals [by themselves] cured any disorder or pain > then doctors would prescribe them. Haven't you heard of people taking niacin to reduce blood cholesterol? On doctors' instructions? Vitamin D for osteoporosis? It is pretty easy to disprove such a blanket denial. Pain can indeed be treated by supplements, but pain is a symptom of over 1000 disorders, so I'm not going to make specific suggestions. You have to consider the cause of the pain before you consider treating it. Anyway..... Instead of cure, how about prevention? The first abstract is written by Bruce Ames, a pre-eminent expert on mutagenesis. And the second one was one of over a thousand articles about disease states related to low vitamin D status....I just picked the first one I saw. I added some emphasis to the latter. Mutat Res. 2001 Apr 18;475(1-2):7-20. DNA damage from micronutrient deficiencies is likely to be a major cause of cancer. Ames BN. University of California, 94720-3202, Berkeley, CA, USA. bnames@uclink4.berkeley.edu A deficiency of any of the micronutrients: folic acid, Vitamin B12, Vitamin B6, niacin, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, iron, or zinc, mimics radiation in damaging DNA by causing single- and double-strand breaks, oxidative lesions, or both. For example, the percentage of the US population that has a low intake (<50% of the RDA) for each of these eight micronutrients ranges from 2 to >20%. A level of folate deficiency causing chromosome breaks was present in approximately 10% of the US population, and in a much higher percentage of the poor. Folate deficiency causes extensive incorporation of uracil into human DNA (4 million/cell), leading to chromosomal breaks. This mechanism is the likely cause of the increased colon cancer risk associated with low folate intake. Some evidence, and mechanistic considerations, suggest that Vitamin B12 (14% US elderly) and B6 (10% of US) deficiencies also cause high uracil and chromosome breaks. Micronutrient deficiency may explain, in good part, why the quarter of the population that eats the fewest fruits and vegetables (five portions a day is advised) has about double the cancer rate for most types of cancer when compared to the quarter with the highest intake. For example, 80% of American children and adolescents and 68% of adults do not eat five portions a day. Common micronutrient deficiencies are likely to damage DNA by the same mechanism as radiation and many chemicals, appear to be orders of magnitude more important, and should be compared for perspective. Remedying micronutrient deficiencies should lead to a major improvement in health and an increase in longevity at low cost. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):1080S-6S. Vitamin D deficiency: a worldwide problem with health consequences.Holick MF, Chen TC. Department of Medicine, Boston University School of Medicine, 715 Albany Street, M-1013, Boston, MA 02118, USA. mfholick@bu.edu Vitamin D deficiency is now recognized as a pandemic. The major cause of vitamin D deficiency is the lack of appreciation that sun exposure in moderation is the major source of vitamin D for most humans. Very few foods naturally contain vitamin D, and foods that are fortified with vitamin D are often inadequate to satisfy either a child's or an adult's vitamin D requirement. Vitamin D deficiency causes rickets in children and will precipitate and exacerbate osteopenia, osteoporosis, and fractures in adults. ***Vitamin D deficiency has been associated with increased risk of common cancers, autoimmune diseases, hypertension, and infectious diseases.*** A circulating level of 25-hydroxyvitamin D of >75 nmol/L, or 30 ng/mL, is required to maximize vitamin D's beneficial effects for health. In the absence of adequate sun exposure, at least 800-1000 IU vitamin D3/d may be needed to achieve this in children and adults. Vitamin D2 may be equally effective for maintaining circulating concentrations of 25-hydroxyvitamin D when given in physiologic concentrations. Lar >Pain can indeed be treated by supplements, but pain is a symptom of over >1000 disorders... I take Oxycontin from time to time for severe pain from lumbar injury diagnosed with an MRI. My doctor tells me that only Opiods can relieve the type of pain that I have. I know my doctor very well, I have been seeing him for various reasons for over 10 years. If my doctor knew of a 'natural' method to cure my pain he would prescribe it. Why would my doctor want to rick me getting addicted to an opiod of he knew of a 'natural' solution to my pain? >Instead of cure, how about prevention? Many diseases result from no bad behaviors at all. Exactly what do you suppose women DO in order to get breast cancer for example? What about lifelong non-smokers who get lung cancer? Did they do something wrong also? Juvenile Diabetes? Did those children eat too many sweets? What about the ones that aren't fat? Natural remedies are not a panacea to health. Of note is the fact the NO supplement's claims have to go through the rigors of FDA approval. Gee I wonder why that is? I've seen these ads on tv for a 'natural supplement' to make your penis permanently larger. If this claim was true the company would likely run out of stock in one hour. You NEVER see scientific proof for very few of the Natural supplements. Gee, why is that? Can't you guys find a college at least to study the effects of say Vitamin C? At least supplements aren't forced on the population yet. No thanks, I'll stick to my pharmaceuticals > Many diseases result from no bad behaviors at all. Exactly what do you > suppose women DO in order to get breast cancer for example? Women who postpone pregnancy past their teenage years are more likely to get breast cancer. -- Ron >> Many diseases result from no bad behaviors at all. Exactly what do you >> suppose women DO in order to get breast cancer for example? > >Women who postpone pregnancy past their teenage years are more likely >to get breast cancer. So you consider that a well-known BAD behavior for women? Like smoking cigarettes or drinking? Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). >>Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to >>Protect Pharma Profits [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >>http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk >Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This >message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). Are you ever going to explain your obsession with people not choosing to be archived without payment? "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). > "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time > >Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This >message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). Your continued psychological obsession with "no archive requests" is noted. You need help. >> "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time >> >>Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This >>message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). Honest people don't do that and neither do they nuke their posts. So, if you are always learning--learn that. >>> "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Honest people don't do that and neither do they nuke their posts. >So, if you are always learning--learn that. How does that make ME responsible for what Google does? Google made that decision, not me. X-No-Archive > How does that make ME responsible for what Google does? > Google made that decision, not me. How can I keep one of my messages from being archived on Google Groups? To prevent a message from displaying after the usual seven days, or from being searchable on Google Groups after being removed, make sure it contains the text 'X-No-Archive:' either in the message header or as the very first text in the first line of the message body. -- Ron > > To prevent a message from displaying after the usual seven days, or > from being searchable on Google Groups after being removed, make sure > it contains the text 'X-No-Archive:' either in the message header or > as the very first text in the first line of the message body. As I recall, the line should read: X-No-Archive: yes X-No-Archive On Jul 1, 6:07 pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote: > How does that make ME responsible for what Google does? > Google made that decision, not me. How can I keep one of my messages from being archived on Google Groups? To prevent a message from displaying after the usual seven days, or from being searchable on Google Groups after being removed, make sure it contains the text 'X-No-Archive:' either in the message header or as the very first text in the first line of the message body. -- Ron LOL! X-No archive is useless. > "Ron Peterson" <r...@shell.core.com> wrote in message > How can I keep one of my messages from being archived on Google > Groups? > To prevent a message from displaying after the usual seven days, or > from being searchable on Google Groups after being removed, make sure > it contains the text 'X-No-Archive:' either in the message header or > as the very first text in the first line of the message body. > LOL! X-No archive is useless. How do people keep their postings from being archived? -- Ron >>>> "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > How does that make ME responsible for what Google does? Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). > Google made that decision, not me. You made the request, that makes you responsible. Honest people have no need to do that. +++ On Jun 29, 9:17 am, Always Learning <PublicEnemynumberone at this.time> wrote: +++ On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:04:56 -0400, "Jan Drew" + jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote this stuff here : <snipped by AL> +++ "Always Learning" <noPublicEm...@this.time ++ +++ Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This +++ message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 3, 5:11 pm). +++ Your continued psychological obsession with +++"no archive requests" is noted. + +++ You need help. I agree with Jan that nuking posting damages the fabric of the Usenet (I am being so bold as to a view in her mouth). Nor are we alone in this view point. Wakfer has posted similar comments. As to Jan perhaps she needs help or perhaps not, but I'll suggest you aren't going deeper than her and your postings are no better. See Jan, you can help A.L. out by "helping" him keep his postings on the archive. Or alternately you, Jan also could have you messages removed after a number of days like AL. You are so very off base. Pay attention to CODEX, particularly with regard to B-6 in Europe. Vitamin D, too. On Jun 26, 10:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to > Protect Pharma Profits [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk |
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