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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / July 2008Study links vaccine to autism
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml A new study shows that autism may be linked after all to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite government's previous claims to the contrary. An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as much as 35 percent. Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier, B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines." The numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the Geiers report that the number actually went down to only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projections of 35 percent. This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that the evidence favored rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such a relationship was not biologically plausible, and that no further studies should be conducted to evaluate it." As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the toxic threshold set by many government agencies. Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low concentrations. The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated, as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines administered there after it documented a 700-fold increase in that state alone. California followed suit, and 32 states are considering doing so. Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3 vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In the 1990s approximately 40 million children were injected with mercury-containing vaccines. The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit. The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a concern, as it is still added to some of the most commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu. Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance." Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite > government's previous claims to the contrary. The study is over two years old. > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, Not a well-respected journal. The analysis is suspect, at best. They used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before. However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of 2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a reduction in autism incidence by 2005. Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought: http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 Jeff <rest of copyrighted material deleted> > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > <rest of copyrighted material deleted> What a load of bullocks. What the data shows is that ethylmercury, the organic mercury in thimerosal, is rapidly depleted from the blood, but irreversably deposited in the tissues and brains of the infants. This paper is typical of the medical fraternity and demonstrates just how incompetent they are to publish scientific data of any value. Show us how much mercury was injected, show us how much was left in the blood, then show us how much mercury came out in the urine and feces. The remainder is still in the infants. How can anyone look at these fools as medical gods when they publish such garbage. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > What the data shows is that ethylmercury, the organic mercury in > thimerosal, is rapidly depleted from the blood, but irreversably > deposited in the tissues and brains of the infants. "Data:" that word doesn't mean what you think it does. Of course, if you have an actual *source* (besides your own paranoid hallucinations) for the half-life of ethylmercury in the brain, by all means post it. > Show us how much mercury was injected, show us how much was left in > the blood, then show us how much mercury came out in the urine and > feces. The remainder is still in the infants. Or, in the case of monkeys, take samples from the brain and measure it. Of course, you've previously denied that animal models are relevant to human health. | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ > Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought: > http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 So what? From http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080130/vaccine-mercury-leaves-blood-fast --- quote --- One of the few researchers who studies the effects of ethyl mercury is Thomas Burbacher, PhD, professor of environmental and occupational health sciences and director of the infant primate research lab at the National Primate Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle. <...> "Just because it came out of the blood doesn't mean it is excreted from the body. It could have gone to the brain," Burbacher tells WebMD. "Although total mercury levels in the blood are lower following thimerosal exposure [than following methyl mercury exposure], mercury in the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain than methyl mercury." --- end of quote --- And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain, not how fast it went through the anus. >> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than >> thought: http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain than > methyl mercury." Actually, that's incorrect. Ethyl mercury is pumped OUT of the brain. It might get to the brain, but it doesn't get INTO the brain. Jeff > --- end of quote --- > > And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain, > not how fast it went through the anus. >>> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought: >>> http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Jeff http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2190116 Mercury neurotoxicity: mechanisms of blood-brain barrier transport. Aschner M, Aschner JL. Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Albany Medical College, NY 12208. Mercury exists in a wide variety of physical and chemical states, each of which has unique characteristics of target organ toxicity. The classic symptoms associated with exposure to elemental mercury vapor (Hg0) and methylmercury (CH3Hg+; MeHg) involve the central nervous system (CNS), while the kidney is the target organ for the mono- and divalent salts of mercury (Hg+ and Hg++, respectively). Physical properties and redox potentials determine the qualitative and quantitative differences in toxicity among inorganic mercury compounds, while the ability of MeHg to cross the blood-brain barrier accounts for its accumulation in the CNS and a clinical picture that is dominated by neurological disturbances. This review gives an up-to-date account of mercury's physical and chemical properties and its interaction with biologically active sites pertinent to transport across the blood-brain barrier, a major regulator of the CNS millieu. PMID: 2190116 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Different Forms of Mercury and Differing Health Effects Mercury occurs naturally in the environment and exists in several forms, which can be organized under three headings: metallic mercury (i.e., elemental mercury-Hg 0, quicksilver), inorganic mercury (i.e., Hg +1 [mercurous salts] or Hg +2 [mercuric salts]), and organic mercury (i.e., methyl-, ethyl-, and phenylmercury). Because mercury's absorption and metabolism depend on its chemical and physical form, it is important to determine the form of mercury to which an individual is exposed. Different forms of mercury can have differing health effects (e.g., absorption and metabolism of different forms of mercury vary and, therefore, have different effects on the nervous system). When metallic mercury vapors are inhaled, they readily enter the bloodstream and cross the blood-brain barrier. Inhaling or ingesting large amounts of methylmercury also results in some of the mercury crossing the blood-brain barrier and affecting the nervous system. Inorganic mercury salts, such as mercuric chloride, do not cross the blood-brain barrier like methylmercury or metallic mercury vapor do. Mercury affects other systems in addition to the nervous system (ATSDR 1999, 1992). Poor Jeffrey Peter Joeshp Utz, notkidsdoc >> --- end of quote --- >> >> And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain, not >> how fast it went through the anus. >>> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than >>> thought: http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > It might get to the brain, but it doesn't get INTO the brain. Is it humor - gets TO the brain but is PUMPED before getting INTO the brain? In case it is not humor, here is the link to the Burbacher study: http://www.ehponline.org/realfiles/members/2005/7712/7712.pdf Whether it gets TO the brain or INTO the brain, it remains IN the brain. > Jeff >> --- end of quote --- >> >> And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain, >> not how fast it went through the anus. > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The study is over two years old. Quite true, and is written by the Geiers, known and proven liars as well documented by http://epiwonk.com/index.php?s=geier http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/?q=geier BTW, the ability of the writer of the Neurodiversity weblog was recently referred to by a federal magistrate as :...the extent of the information which a highly-competent librarian like Ms. Seidel can, and did, accumulate..." This was in an order where the anti- vaccination lawyer Shoemaker was being sanctioned for unethical behavior when he subpoenaed Ms. Seidel in a case where she was not a litigant. > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, > > Not a well-respected journal. Correct. Well documented at: http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/ > The analysis is suspect, at best. You give it far too much credit. They > used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change > in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before. > However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of > 2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no > longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a > reduction in autism incidence by 2005. That is what David Kirby said, until he moved the goalposts when it did not happen as predicted. > Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848 Correct. Excellent study. PROBEPOSTEROUS!!!!!! Are YOU, Proby-woby, the one who told me that ALL the Mercury was gone from the vaccines?? Well it seems you were RIGHT... er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! (perhaps others too?) Read this, old Probe, and weep: from Deirdre Imus article at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-imus/a-timely-truth-untold-aga_b_104711.html "The article also inaccurately reports that thimerosal-containing vaccines were "replaced" with thimerosal-free formulas in 2001. Thimerosal-containing vaccines were not recalled as the article suggests and remained on clinic shelves well into 2003, according to government communications. In addition, the majority of flu shots, given to pregnant women and babies as young as six months, still contain 25 micrograms of thimerosal." THE MAJORITY OF FLU SHOTS STILL CONTAIN 25 MICROGRAMS OF THIMEROSAL? Why Probe, a little forgetfullness there in your analysis eh? And while YOU can't seem to get some verification on Homeopathy, women AND BABIES are STILL getting the thimerosal?!!!!! Perhaps this should be PROBED, EH? Yet another example of the inaccuracy, fallacy and doubletalk from Big Brother Probee. Citizen Jimserac . > PROBEPOSTEROUS!!!!!! > > Are YOU, Proby-woby, the one who told me > that ALL the Mercury was gone from the > vaccines?? No, a.shole, I never claimed that. How do I know that I never claimed it? Because it is UNTRUE. You see, idiot-fool, I do read the CDC website with an open mind, and have read the vaccine tables listing the thimerosal content of vaccines. I also read a lot of other things such as: http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/grabit/acip-min-feb.pdf which was a survey to see just how many pediatrician offices were still using thimerosal containing vaccines. Note the reference to the pharmaceutical companies exchange program. Do I have to explain that for your very limited intellect? Do read the entie 60+ pages, as I did. If that is too much for you, the specific information is on a page where the numerals add up to 12. I also read this: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/109867588/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 which is not direct proof that thimerosal containing vaccines were all gone at a specific date, but does show just how fast a lot of vaccines are used. Well it seems you were RIGHT... > er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! > (perhaps others too?) No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version. > Read this, old Probe, and weep: > from Deirdre Imus article at:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-imus/a-timely-truth-untold-aga_... Diedre Imus? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You probably think that Jenny McCarthy is not a boob, either. > "The article also inaccurately reports that thimerosal-containing > vaccines were "replaced" with thimerosal-free formulas in 2001. > Thimerosal-containing vaccines were not recalled as the article > suggests The vaccine makers offered free swapping services instead. > and remained on clinic shelves well into 2003, according to > government communications. Which Diedre has never made public. Imagine that. Joe McCarthy. In addition, the majority of flu shots, > given to pregnant women and babies as young as six months, still > contain 25 micrograms of thimerosal." Wow. And the 25 mcg immediately dilute upon injection. Oh, wait, you believe that thimerosal has a homeopathetic effect BECAUSE of the dilution. > THE MAJORITY OF FLU SHOTS STILL CONTAIN 25 MICROGRAMS > OF THIMEROSAL? Why Probe, a little forgetfullness there in your > analysis eh? Not at all. I never claimed otherwise. Idiot. > And while YOU can't seem to get some verification > on Homeopathy, No, dipwad, YOU won't provide proof of the basics beliefs of homeoquackery. women AND BABIES are STILL getting > the thimerosal?!!!!! So what? There is NO proof that thimerosal is harmful. > Perhaps this should be PROBED, EH? How about probing for your mind with a proctoscope? > Yet another example of the inaccuracy, fallacy > and doubletalk from Big Brother Probee. Not at all, comprehension challenged one. > Well it seems you were RIGHT... >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! >> (perhaps others too?) > >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version. When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered. Bastards!! By the way - there was no mercury in it.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > > Well it seems you were RIGHT... > >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > By the way - there was no mercury in it. A young man, getting FLU shots?? Do you have some susceptibility to it? Cit J. >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT... >> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >A young man, getting FLU shots?? >Do you have some susceptibility to it? Yes. It is a consequence of being human. >Cit J. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Yes. It is a consequence of being human. Well then, young human, would you reveal to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have had the flu in the past? Citizen Jimserac > > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have > had the flu in the past? In the past fifteen years I have had the flu one time. I neglected to have the vaccine that year. And, it will never happen again. Thanks for asking. > On Jun 26, 5:35 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Thanks for asking. Muck Probert!!!! Actually I DID NOT ask you but, thanks for supporting my argument that in healthy folk the flu is sufficiently rare to OBVIATE THE NECESSITY OF EVER GETTING SHOTS FOR IT. Besides, as you very well know, there is an easy way to "duck" it!!!!! More denials and attacks please! Citizen Jimserac >> In the past fifteen years I have had the flu one time. I neglected to >> have the vaccine that year. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is sufficiently rare to OBVIATE THE NECESSITY > OF EVER GETTING SHOTS FOR IT. I suppose there's an etiological point where *anything* becomes support for a dearly-held belief -- makes no difference what, it's all confirmatory. | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have >had the flu in the past? Nonce. >Citizen Jimserac SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Nonce. I prefer to "duck" it, when the time comes! Citizen Jimserac >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >I prefer to "duck" it, when the time >comes! And if you can't duck it, perhaps you might choose to join the several hundred thousand people why die each year from flu around the world. The death toll in 1918-19 was only about 40 million, so fee free to not worry about the disease. Perhaps a homeopathic preparation of snot will help. >Citizen Jimserac SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > not worry about the disease. Perhaps a homeopathic preparation of snot > will help. Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate in the 1918 influenza epidemic than the MD's attained? This is often rationalized that the MDs of that era lacked the proper drugs. There may be something to that argument but it is HARDLY the full story. Try THIS link, I'm sure you'll find something to object to. http://www.lifemedical.us/flu/ And while there, BE SURE to download the Pandemic Survival Manual - it might just save your life AND you'll be pleased that it takes a favorable view of vaccinations. Citizen Jimserac > Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate > in the 1918 influenza epidemic than the MD's attained? > This is often rationalized that the MDs of that era lacked > the proper drugs. There may be something to that > argument but it is HARDLY the full story. No, as a matter of fact, I don't -- it's like a lot of things that you "know:" without foundation. | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ >Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate >in the 1918 influenza epidemic than the MD's attained? Why would I need to know something that isn't true? SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -- Well, would it surprise you to learn that if it were true, the dominant allopathic journals WOULD NOT be advertising the fact. Although the death rate from MD's soared due to their overuse of aspirin, that only explains part of the huge disparity in death rates between the allopaths (high patient death rate) and the homeopaths (low patient death rate) during the epidemic. Citizen Jimserac >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that if it were true, the dominant allopathic > journals WOULD NOT be advertising the fact. Brilliant logic. It appears that your best argument in favor of homeopathy is based on the principle that anything not covered in peer-reviewed medical journals is necessarily true. | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ Here's an interesting link from Stanford University about the 1918-1919 Spanish Flu. http://virus.stanford.edu/uda Years ago, I had an older neighbor, who as a boy worked as a pharmacy delivery boy during the 1918 flu epidemic. He said he would ride through the neighborhoods here in Sacramento, and literally toss medications up onto the porches from the curb. Much like a paper boy does today. The reason - there were "Quarantine" signs on the doors and houses. I don't know how many souls were lost in Sacramento, but do know that a visit to our local cemetaries has an abundance of tomb stones with 1918 listed as dates of death. I understand that NYC lost 1/3 of it's population! > Here's an interesting link from Stanford University about the > 1918-1919 Spanish Flu. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I understand that NYC lost 1/3 of it's population! It appears when I mentioned that NYC lost 1/3 of it's population, that I make an incorrect statement. The following accounting states that just 33,000 died in NYC. I wish to correct my original exaggerated figure. 33,000 is still a lot of people in one city. Philadelphia was also hard hit: http://www.essortment.com/all/spanishflu_reiz.htm "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote: > The death toll in 1918-19 Now, let's hear it *gang* whine about this date......................... > > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have > had the flu in the past? I had it ten years ago, the only year Imissed the vaccination, and I will never miss the vaccination again. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml A new study shows that autism may be linked after all to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite government's previous claims to the contrary. An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as much as 35 percent. Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier, B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines." The numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the Geiers report that the number actually went down to only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projections of 35 percent. This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that the evidence favored rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such a relationship was not biologically plausible, and that no further studies should be conducted to evaluate it." As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the toxic threshold set by many government agencies. Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low concentrations. The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated, as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines administered there after it documented a 700-fold increase in that state alone. California followed suit, and 32 states are considering doing so. Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3 vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In the 1990s approximately 40 million children were injected with mercury-containing vaccines. The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit. The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a concern, as it is still added to some of the most commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu. Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance." Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. Ocd? Posting lies and spam EVERYTIME he posts "Peter Bowditch" > > PROBEPOSTEROUS!!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No, a.shole, I never claimed that. How do I know that I never claimed > it? Because it is UNTRUE. I checked an earlier post of yours and SURPRISE! it seems you were right !!! Score: Proby -232 > You see, idiot-fool, I do read the CDC website with an open mind, and > have read the vaccine tables listing the thimerosal content of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pharmaceutical companies exchange program. Do I have to explain that > for your very limited intellect? Wow! Multisyllabic words AND a coherent sentence! You've made two rational and intelligent comments in a row!!! (ASIDE...)HEY EVERYONE! I'VE FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH PROBY, YOU HAVE TO INSULT THE GUY EVERY OTHER SENTENCE AND THEN HE STARTS COMMUNICATING HALFWAYS RATIONALLY!!!! Ok nitwit let's resume... > Do read the entie 60+ pages, as I did. If that is too much for you, > the specific information is on a page where the numerals add up to 12. > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/109867588/abstract?CRETRY=... > > which is not direct proof that thimerosal containing vaccines were all > gone at a specific date, but does show just how fast a lot of vaccines > are used. OH!!! It's not direct proof is it??? The question is, how would a gullible moron like yourself know one way or the other?? > Well it seems you were RIGHT... > > > er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES! > > (perhaps others too?) > > No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version. Tell it to Peter Bowsprit, he just his flu shots and forgot to ask for the thiMESSrosal free version. He's suffering from the delusion that there was no thimess in it (aside... if there wasn't, one wonders what WAS in it, heh heh, with the vaccine manufacturers you never know until AFTER you've gotten the shots!!) > > Read this, old Probe, and weep: > > from Deirdre Imus article at:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-imus/a-timely-truth-untold-aga_... > > Diedre Imus? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > > You probably think that Jenny McCarthy is not a boob, either. I think she's got more guts than you for standing up to the vaccine manufacturers instead of gullibly accepting everything they say like a moron (=YOU!). > > "The article also inaccurately reports that thimerosal-containing > > vaccines were "replaced" with thimerosal-free formulas in 2001. > > Thimerosal-containing vaccines were not recalled as the article > > suggests > > The vaccine makers offered free swapping services instead. INDEED, SO IF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY WOULDN'T BE BOTHERED. HOW CORPORATE OF THEM!! > > and remained on clinic shelves well into 2003, according to > > government communications. > > Which Diedre has never made public. Imagine that. Joe McCarthy. WHICH THE VACCINE MAKERS NEVER MADE PUBLIC, IMAGINE THAT CHARLIE McCARTHY!!!! >> In addition, the majority of flu shots, > > given to pregnant women and babies as young as six months, still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > believe that thimerosal has a homeopathetic effect BECAUSE of the > dilution. Oh it "DILUTES" does it? > > THE MAJORITY OF FLU SHOTS STILL CONTAIN 25 MICROGRAMS > > OF THIMEROSAL? Why Probe, a little forgetfullness there in your > > analysis eh? > > Not at all. I never claimed otherwise. Idiot. Ah then you feel its ALL OK AFTER ALL, EH? > > And while YOU can't seem to get some verification > > on Homeopathy, > > No, dipwad, YOU won't provide proof of the basics beliefs of > homeoquackery. OH POOR PROBY NEEDS CITIZEN JIMSERAC to provide proof for him. TSK TSK TSK, I understand, you're incapable of thinking for yourself. Perhaps its the Mercury in all the vaccines you've had, eh??? > women AND BABIES are STILL getting > > the thimerosal?!!!!! > > So what? There is NO proof that thimerosal is harmful. Oh! THERE'S THAT PROOF WORD AGAIN - Since you don't think for yourself, maybe you just let the vaccine companies do your thinking for you, eh Charlie? Exactly how much Mercury is in the the thiMESSersol? Shall we call it 50%. Are you SURE you want to continue to assert that there is ... NO ... proof that the thimessersal is harmful? > > Perhaps this should be PROBED, EH? > > Yet another example of the inaccuracy, fallacy > and doubletalk from Big Brother Probee. I just have to ask you one more time, Probee, WHAT IS THE PROBE-BA-BILITY that the thimessersal is harmless? Citizen Jimserac > I just have to ask you one more time, Probee, > WHAT IS THE PROBE-BA-BILITY that the thimessersal > is harmless? > > Citizen Jimserac Why don't we analyze it this way - (1) What childhood vaccines continue to have thimerosol in them? (2) Has incidence of autism continued to escallate in spite of thimerosol being removed from childhood vaccines since 2001? (3) What is the PROBE-BA-BILITY that Measles, Mumps, Diptheria, Chickenpox, and the litany of other childhood diseases are harmless? > > > PROBEPOSTEROUS!!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I checked an earlier post of yours and > SURPRISE! it seems you were right !!! AS USUAL. > Score: Proby -232 In addition to being illiterate and illogical, you are innumerate. > > You see, idiot-fool, I do read the CDC website with an open mind, and > > have read the vaccine tables listing the thimerosal content of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Ok nitwit let's resume... However, dipwad, you did not understand what I wrote nor did you read the link I provided. > > Do read the entie 60+ pages, as I did. If that is too much for you, > > the specific information is on a page where the numerals add up to 12. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > how would a gullible moron like yourself know one way > or the other?? Simply because I am way smarter than you, and my reading comprehension and logic skills are far superior to yours. Thanks for asking. > > Well it seems you were RIGHT... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > what WAS in it, heh heh, with the vaccine manufacturers > you never know until AFTER you've gotten the shots!!) He said he had the thimerosal free version. That is also documented on the CDC website. Do try to read for comprehension. > > > Read this, old Probe, and weep: > > > from Deirdre Imus article at:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-imus/a-timely-truth-untold-aga_... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > up to the vaccine manufacturers instead of gullibly > accepting everything they say like a moron (=YOU!). Actually, it is not her guts that got her where she is today. She uses those siliCONES well. > > > "The article also inaccurately reports that thimerosal-containing > > > vaccines were "replaced" with thimerosal-free formulas in 2001. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > INDEED, SO IF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY > WOULDN'T BE BOTHERED. HOW CORPORATE OF THEM!! Doctors were notifed. They had a choice. People do bear some degree of responsibility for learning about their health. Of course, if they are all as dumb as you, it would not make a difference. > > > and remained on clinic shelves well into 2003, according to > > > government communications. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > WHICH THE VACCINE MAKERS NEVER MADE PUBLIC, IMAGINE THAT > CHARLIE McCARTHY!!!! No, dippy, not possible. Diedre is making a claim which she obviously read something (if it exists) and she is not providing proof of existence. > >> In addition, the majority of flu shots, > > > given to pregnant women and babies as young as six months, still [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Oh it "DILUTES" does it? Surely does. How doyou think it is transported around the body? By moped? > > > THE MAJORITY OF FLU SHOTS STILL CONTAIN 25 MICROGRAMS > > > OF THIMEROSAL? Why Probe, a little forgetfullness there in your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ah then you feel its ALL OK AFTER ALL, EH? Since there is no reason to be concerned with thimerosal, yes. > > > And while YOU can't seem to get some verification > > > on Homeopathy, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > OH POOR PROBY NEEDS CITIZEN JIMSERAC to provide proof for > him. I do not *need* you to do it. I challenged you to prove those points, and you ducked and did the ostrich. TSK TSK TSK, I understand, you're incapable of thinking > for yourself. Perhaps its the Mercury in all the vaccines > you've had, eh??? No, stupid. It is the homeopathic brain you have. Totally diluted. > > women AND BABIES are STILL getting > > > the thimerosal?!!!!! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > for yourself, maybe you just let the vaccine companies > do your thinking for you, eh Charlie? Wrong. It is YOU who are afraid of P R O O F. You probably do not know what it means. > Exactly how much Mercury is in the the thiMESSersol? > Shall we call it 50%. By percentage of molecular weight. If you were awake during high school chemistry, you would be able to understand that this is meangless. There is only 1 atom of Hg. Just one. > Are you SURE you want to continue to assert that > there is ... NO ... proof that the thimessersal is harmful? Yes, I will. Since YOU have yet to provide an iota of proof that it is. > > > Perhaps this should be PROBED, EH? > > > Yet another example of the inaccuracy, fallacy [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > WHAT IS THE PROBE-BA-BILITY that the thimessersal > is harmless? Near 100% from everything I have read. Facts, not idle conjecture or the lies of the merchants of disease, disability and death. On Jun 26, 12:15 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 25, 6:21 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I checked an earlier post of yours and > SURPRISE! it seems you were right !!! >AS USUAL. What a hoot. >In addition to being ***illiterate and illogical, you are innumerate.*** > Ok ***nitwit*** let's resume... >However,*** dipwad,*** ***************** you did not understand******************* what I wrote nor did you read the link I provided. > Simply because I am way smarter than you, and my reading comprehension and logic skills are far superior to yours. Thanks for asking. > No, ***idiot.*** Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version. >the CDC website. >Do try to read for comprehension. > Doctors were notifed. They had a choice. People do bear some degree of responsibility for learning about their health. Of course, if they are all as ***dumb as you***, it would not make a difference. > No, ***dippy*** > Since there is no reason to be concerned with thimerosal, yes. Blatant lie. > No, dipwad >No,*** stupid.*** > So what? There is NO proof that thimerosal is harmful. BLATANT LIE!!! >Wrong. It is YOU who are afraid of P R O O F. You probably do not know what it means. > Near 100% from everything I have read. Facts, not idle conjecture or the lies of the merchants of disease, disability and death. =========================== Take a look at how smart he is................... *You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert* path: > archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail > Lines: 107 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious> >> Mark Probert markprobert1...@hotmail.com AloysiousX http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/5ce24a29a2f91e9b Mar 11, 2002 >In article <3c8cba9b.271...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, >Mark_ProbertBLOC...@hotmail.com (Mark Probert) wrote: >**The $ceino led scum who brought the five dismissed suits could not >**come up with sufficient facts to support their allegations, which >**mirror your utter lack of knowledge. >Someone who feels about Probert similarly as I do has informed me that >Probert is a de-licensed attorney ... is that accurate? >Some NY discinplinary actions were mentioned. >From his ridiculous comments comparing the SLAPP suits I've been involved >with ... his legal knowledge appears to be just more Pharmaceutical Cartel >Propaganda. ***I have never been an attorney, have never claimed to be one, and do not play one on the internet.*** Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 7, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t 09-07...@lambercartel.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-10...@lymbercartel.com> From: M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 30, 2004 (M.a.r.k_P.r.o.b.e.r.t_04-30...@limbercartel.com) Newsgroups: alt.support.cerebral-palsy, misc.handicap From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 06-11...@lombercartel.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:11:24 GMT ========================= Real smart......LOL! DTABOR http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/04/cdc_fda_become_targets_for_investigation_says_ national_autism_association.html http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/05/national_autism_association_questions_iom_and_ cdc_coverup_how_far_will_they_go_to_protect_toxic_vaccines.html http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/05/wall_street_journal_solicits_dirty_legislation _says_the_national_autism_association.html > proven liars Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX) Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:59 pm Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution I have no children, Sistah Jan. As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah! AloysiousX Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX) Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 6:31 pm Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's pretty clear who the coward is. Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX) Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:57:50 GMT Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:57 pm Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until Sistah Ilena mentioned him. path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 107 X-Admin: n...@aol.com From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX) Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant Date: 06 Jan 2004 17:54:38 GMT References: <19faaec.0401060908.68a7...@posting.google.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution Message-ID: 20040106125438.01826.00002...@mb-m18.aol.com > Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard > Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious> > Mark Probert markprobert1...@hotmail.com AloysiousX http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml A new study shows that autism may be linked after all to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite government's previous claims to the contrary. An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as much as 35 percent. Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier, B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines." The numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the Geiers report that the number actually went down to only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projections of 35 percent. This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that the evidence favored rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such a relationship was not biologically plausible, and that no further studies should be conducted to evaluate it." As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the toxic threshold set by many government agencies. Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low concentrations. The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated, as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines administered there after it documented a 700-fold increase in that state alone. California followed suit, and 32 states are considering doing so. Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3 vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In the 1990s approximately 40 million children were injected with mercury-containing vaccines. The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit. The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a concern, as it is still added to some of the most commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu. Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance." Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, This was a good study. > Not a well-respected journal In other words NOT pharma approved. Donna > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > <rest of copyrighted material deleted> > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > In other words NOT pharma approved. Not rationality approved. The AAPS is NOT a medical socienty, but a collection of wing-nuts. See: http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/ which documents their weirdness. > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. Nobody can credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines. But much more needs to be done, and we will do it. Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. I almost miss the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!! On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. I almost miss > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!- Like when you falsely portrayed yourself as a doctor and were kicked off your ISP for that fraud? As for the study, it is by the Geiers, who, in a manner of speaking, make you look like Hippocrates. But, only in a manner of speaking. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml A new study shows that autism may be linked after all to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite government's previous claims to the contrary. An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as much as 35 percent. Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier, B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines." The numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the Geiers report that the number actually went down to only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projections of 35 percent. This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that the evidence favored rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such a relationship was not biologically plausible, and that no further studies should be conducted to evaluate it." As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the toxic threshold set by many government agencies. Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low concentrations. The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated, as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines administered there after it documented a 700-fold increase in that state alone. California followed suit, and 32 states are considering doing so. Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3 vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In the 1990s approximately 40 million children were injected with mercury-containing vaccines. The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit. The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a concern, as it is still added to some of the most commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu. Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance." Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers. On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. I almost miss > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!! Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT. Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang", after daring to make some posts that there MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific support for the efficacy of Homeopathy, I resolved to keep posting links and information that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine as well as links and information that must seriously call into question the unfortunate alliance between commercial interests and some areas of medical science. The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy of vaccinations is one of the things I have begun to challenge and I am very pleased that many young mothers, as well as others of all age groups and socio-economic strata, no longer accept the endless propaganda and media fear mongering which accompanies yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated. Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising autism rates and other long term deleterious consequences of vaccinations have been met with the most hysterical innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements of the anti-alternative medicine puppets who I have given the nickname the "aunties". I shall continue posting despite the fact that NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post or start on an alternative medicine subject is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise diverted into directions unrelated to the topic of the original posting. Many Thanks Citizen Jimserac > On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT. fArtie, as his friends call him (he has no friends) is a long time internet troll who has abused and used mentally ill people for years. He plagiarizes articles, changes the working of newspaper articles to change their meaning, and is recognized as one of the internets true morons. I have known him for years, and have yet to see him post a fact. You two should get along quite well together. Just do not breed. I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!! > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > Many Thanks > Citizen Jimserac On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and > the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their [quoted text clipped - 157 lines] > > Many Thanks > > CitizenJimserac Good nicknames! Citizen Jimserac > On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 164 lines] > > Citizen Jimserac Thank you, I've been exposing their Cult of Useful Idiots for a very long time. One thing to remember, is that the Proburt Clan has NO SHAME, none, zero, zilch. I've exposed them (Proby, Wright, Ann, etc.) line by line for many a years, but they come back with the same distorted material, like nothing has happened. Although our efforts have not been in vain, since it seems like their ability to fool new people has diminished to zero. Honest researchers like yourself, Jan Drew, Sara Freeman and Sir Wholeflaffer have paid off and the tables have turned. Dr. Jimerac, keep up the great work, we are winning the war for the hearts and minds of honest citizens, we will succeed! On Jun 29, 1:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: ned. > Although our efforts have not been in vain, since it seems like their > ability to fool new people has diminished to zero. Honest researchers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Dr. Jimerac, keep up the great work, we are winning the war for the > hearts and minds of honest citizens, we will succeed! Thank you! Citizen Jimserac > ned. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Citizen Jimserac Hey, Jimmy, fArtie will lead you right down Dante's Road. > On Jun 29, 9:01 am, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Hey, Jimmy, fArtie will lead you right down Dante's Road. Well that beats you - you're off the highway in a ditch!!! Citizen Jimserac > fArtie Name calling AGAIN! Proven liar by your own words. You do NOT read Torah everyday. Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of 370 for Mark Probert fArtie On Jun 29, 1:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > Thank you, I've been exposing Am I the only one who has noticed these screwballs obsession with exposing themselves to be loons? > On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 162 lines] > > Good nicknames! they sure beat yours, Dumbass, andfArties. > On Jun 28, 5:40 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 166 lines] > > they sure beat yours, Dumbass, andfArties. Ha! your jealously is showing! NOBODY praises your nicknames and insults. Citizen Jimserac > > On Jun 28, 5:40 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 171 lines] > > Citizen Jimserac That's our Proby, He simply has NO shame, and no brains. Trying to reason with him or even attempting to have an intelligent discussion with Proby or his cult is totally futile. He always falls to the lowest denominator. Not only has his group suffered many defections, but nobody in their right mind will listen to their screeds anymore. On Jul 1, 12:56 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > That's our Proby, He simply has NO shame, and no brains. So many errors in just one sentence. Trying to > reason with him or even attempting to have an intelligent discussion > with Proby or his cult is totally futile. Yes, for you it is. You need some intelligence before you can have one. He always falls to the > lowest denominator. Nah...you are lower than the lowest denominator. > Not only has his group suffered many defections, Incorrect and you cannot prove otherwise. However, every post of yours proves just how many defects you have. > but nobody in their right mind will listen to their screeds anymore. You have no idea what a "right mind" is. > On Jul 1, 12:56 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > You have no idea what a "right mind" is. Proby, I'm certain there IS hope for you. It just takes time - all those years of compulsive denialism have taken their toll, and it takes time to get back your thinking abilities. Just keep reading my posts and visiting the links and keep repeating to yourself, "there might be something to this, there might be something to this, it IS possible, it IS possible" and you'll be OK. We're all rooting for you and hoping you'll break from the other gang members, that fanatical semanticist Bowditch, "Doc" the scientist, and that master of misinterpretation, the duke of deception, the logicist who can magically apply good sound reasoning and then suspend it as quickly as Harry Potter can say "wingardia leviosum!!", D.C. Sessquatch Citizen Jimserac > > On Jul 1, 12:56 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Citizen Jimserac You are so right Doctor Jimserac, we offer hope and caring to Proby, but it has come to nothing. His refusal to want to be helped is his most vexing problem, and there are many. Eventually he will re-commit himself to a mental health facility and he will be treated for his delusional mind, but until that happens, we need to encourage him to seek treatment. The rest of his cult are only too happy to drag him along and that is flat-out wrong! Proby has been discredited so many times, have been caught in lies so many times, that he doesn't even try to come up with new ones. Again, we can only offer sympathy to him and pray that he finds redemption in healing himself,he is way past due. Thanks again Citizen J. for the mention, your writings are the bright light in these newsgroups and need for you to expose the well documented facts. Of course Proby's cult hates things like facts. > > On Jul 1, 12:56 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Proby, I'm certain there IS hope for you. The kiss of death. > It just takes time - all those years > of compulsive denialism have taken their [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > there might be something to this, > it IS possible, it IS possible" I did that last night. While walking home, I felt something 'squishy' on the sole of my right shoe. I said, "there might be something to this" and checked. Sure enough, I had inadvertently stepped in a pile of dog crap on a grassy area. The slob had failed to clean up after his pooch pooped. This immediately reminded me of your posts, where you fail to hit the delete button after typing. > and you'll be OK. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > as Harry Potter can say > "wingardia leviosum!!", D.C. Sessquatch You are just upset that DCS arranged for you to look like a fool, and I will not play your illogical games of arguing with you before you prove the basics. I am sure that a few whacks in your head with a nearby hammer will help you. > > Proby, I'm certain there IS hope for you. > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > I am sure that a few whacks in your head with a nearby hammer will > help you. As I mentioned Proby, all those years of denialism have taken their troll but I believe there IS hope for you. I DO want to congratulate you on a beautiful bit of misdirection recently in a post I made about Homeopathy. Analyzing this will help to show you how you must update your thinking if you are to recover some semblance of human reasoning rather than your current Pavlovian response to virtually ANY post on alternative medicine. I posted something to the effect that if Homeopathy were so bad, why don't we see scads of complaints from the India, where they have lots of Homeopathic hospitals, Homeopathic medical colleges and Homeopathic practioners. You brilliantly (sic) turned this into something to the effect that I was trying to claim that popularity was a scientific proof of efficacy, something I neither said nor implied. My fear is that your response was not done intentionally but was rather an automatic response based on your years of misinterpretation and misdirection as part of your "modus operandi". You must learn Proby that this is NOT thinking. A misinterpretation of this magnitude indicates SERIOUS cognitive difficulties and/or a complete misapprehension of the laws of deductive logic, if you really believe that asking about complaining Indians somehow implies a belief that popularity confirms efficacy of anything. Keep working on this Proby, and, if needed, try using a sledgehammer on YOUR head - an ordinary hammer will not do for you. Good Luck |
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