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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / June 2008The "Placebo Effect" and another possible solution.
The "Placebo Effect" and another possible solution. In most tests dealing with new and experimental drugs, the 'placebo effect' (often a dummy simulator) shows that 'it' also improves the medical condition in some patients as well. Could it be that the 'placebo' can actually improve some conditions, as it is made of something, or can it be the simple fact that taking 'a simple glass' of water three times a day can help with certain medical symptoms ? Caesar J. B. Squitti THE LIGHT: The Rainbow of Truth. http://www.thejesuschristcode.com > The "Placebo Effect" and another possible solution. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 'a simple glass' of water three times a day can help with certain > medical symptoms ? no...placebo indicates that nothing is being done..or taken ie...most likely the condition being "treated" is self limiting..ie..would have gone away on its own or...the person was actually a hypochondriac..ie had nothing wrong with them > Caesar J. B. Squitti > > THE LIGHT: The Rainbow of Truth. > http://www.thejesuschristcode.com > The "Placebo Effect" and another possible solution. > > In most tests dealing with new and experimental drugs, the 'placebo > effect' (often a dummy simulator) shows that 'it' also improves the > medical condition in some patients as well. It's very complicated. There are at least three main influences at work here-- . 1. Many conditions fluctuate in severity or get better spontaneoulsy. 2. There are "reporting biases" -- patients are always under pressure to give what they think is the "right" answers through their subordinate status and a tendency to give "answers of politeness", such as telling the restaurant waiter "everything was fine" when thinking "I'll never come here again". So if not sure whether they are realy better or not, patients are likely to say that they are. 3. There is little doubt (in my opinion) that there are genuine placebo "effects" from the belief that an active treatment is being employed i.e. some patients ARE better for the medical attention. This does not extend, in general, to affecting disease processes or progress, but symptoms and the patient's sense of well-being can be imporved, and various facets of illness behaviour affected. Note that this is not a property of the placebo itself,. It, by definition, "does" nothing. There is merely a reaction to all other aspects of the therapeutic interaction, how the placebo is presented to the patient and what the patient's expectations are of it. PM > Could it be that the 'placebo' can actually improve some conditions, > as it is made of something, or can it be the simple fact that taking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > THE LIGHT: The Rainbow of Truth. > http://www.thejesuschristcode.com While what you say is accurate, there is always the possibility that taking an extra three glasses of water can help with many conditions, based on the simple truth that water allows some of the other organs like the kidneys, and the liver to function better.... The reality that 'a placebo' is taken, ignores the other reality that a glass of water is also taken....the focus has always been on the placebo, but never on the glass of water..... Caesar J. B. Squitti THUNDER BAY ONLINE www.thunderbayonline.com > > The "Placebo Effect" and another possible solution. > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - While what you say is accurate, there is always the possibility that taking an extra three glasses of water can help with many conditions, based on the simple truth that water allows some of the other organs like the kidneys, and the liver to function better.... PM What you say is part true, but I don't like that example. Drinking water over and above normal needs does not make even make the kidneys work better, they have to work harder to get rid of any excess while also retaining vital electrolytes. OTOH it is obviously desirable to drink extra liquid if sick with conditions causing fluid loss, such as fevers and diarrhoea. PM The reality that 'a placebo' is taken, ignores the other reality that a glass of water is also taken....the focus has always been on the placebo, but never on the glass of water..... Caesar J. B. Squitti THUNDER BAY ONLINE www.thunderbayonline.com On Jun 23, 5:18 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > "Caesar J. B. Squitti" <squit...@tbaytel.net> wrote in > messagenews:9931e1a2-4ac0-4d0e-961b-93cdf67b1054@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > "Caesar J. B. Squitti" <squit...@tbaytel.net> wrote in The "placebo" effect is a construct used to deny the efficacy of alternative systems of medicine. If a person takes a Homeopathic drug which works it is dismissed as "placebo effect", the patient only "thought" they were getting better and somehow did. If a person takes a standard medical drug and feels better, it was supposedly the drug that worked. This trick has been working for quite some time but unfortunately modern scientific instrumentation is gradually going to put to rest such nonsense and already has in some areas. For example, MRI analysis of the visual cortex while Acupuncture points said to benefit eyes are needled CLEARLY SHOWS activity in the visual cortex while nearby non-acupuncture points show no such visual cortex activity. Another standard bit of nonsense used against alternative systems of medicine is the fact that some illnesses improve and worsen and alternate between these two. True, some diseases, even typically fatal ones have what is unscientifically called "spontaneous remission" in which the patient not only improves but is cured without any intervention or drug. Once again, if a Homepathic drug is given to, for example, an MS patient who then dramatically improves, it is immediately asserted, for example by YOU, that this was simply a natural course in the typical remissions of the this disease and that therefore the Homeopathic remedy had nothing to do with the improvement - even for patients who had remained bedridden and for whom NO OTHER MEDICAL treatment had provided any relief or improvement. Again, DESPITE THE ATTEMPT TO KILL OFF THE RESEARCH and deny funding by such DENIALISM, scientific instrumentation, within this decade, will soon uncover what is happening. For those interested in REAL RESEARCH IN HOMEOPATHY DONE BY REAL SCIENTISTS which is uncovering REAL MECHANISMS of action instead of placebo and/or remission rationalizations, try THIS link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wYO6nNQGe1M A full list of scientifc journal citations supporting her research can be found at: http://nationalcenterforhomeopathy.org/articles/view,173 Citizen Jimserac |
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