Thank you for the facts.

I must tell you there are some here who will lie and deny that asbestos is
dangerous.
Back in 2004 there was this discussion and facts

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/f06b48baa0e38b71

Jul 27, 2004

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From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-July 23, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t
07-23...@lymbercartel.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:35:11 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 23 2004 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Asbestos Deaths Up

Jan wrote:

People were correctly calling her a quack for many reasons, none being
asbestos related.

The simple fact is that there is no cover-up regarding asbestos. In the
1980's, under AHERA, schools nationwide removed tons of it. Construction
companies were forced to perform abatement before renovations or demolition.
There is no doubt that there are very sick people with asbestosis and
mesothelioma who were exposed to asbestos. I meet several of them every
month and can usually find some documentation of their possible exposure so
they can recevie WC benefits.

Backj in the 1950's and 1960's, there was no idea that asbestos exposure
could be so dangerous. During WWII boat builders at the Navy Yards were
routinely exposed to it, brought the dust home, and exposed their families.
No one knew.

When I was in elementary school, I received a kit from a group in Canada,
where asbestos was mined, called "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral." I brought it
to school for a science project. No one knew.

Once the dangers became known, precautions were put in place, and,
eventually, abatement was begun. There is far less asbestos in our
environment to day, and HULDA CLARK HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Anyone claiming that there was a cover-up is an liar.

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The EPA Comes Clean on Asbestos

EPA warning on asbestos is under attack Lawyers target materials detailing
dangers in brakes

The federal government's 17-
year effort to warn backyard and
professional mechanics of the
dangers of cancer-causing as-
bestos in brakes is under attack.

The deadly truth about asbestos
A brief chronology of what the owners and managers of asbestos
companies knew,
and when they knew it.

1890s
* Asbestos, which previously had few industrial uses, becomes a raw
material
for large manufacturing industries, exposing large numbers of workers
to
asbestos dust for the first time. Asbestos-caused disease often
develops
decades after a person was first exposed. As a result, it was not
until the
early 1900s that large numbers of workers developed symptoms.
David Kotelchuck, "Asbestos: 'The Funeral Dress of Kings' - and
Others" in
Dying for Work: Workers' Safety and Health in Twentieth-Century
America, ed. by
David Rosner and Gerald Markowitz, Indiana University Press,
Bloomington, IN
1987, p193

1918
* A Prudential Insurance Company official notes that life insurance
companies
will not cover asbestos workers, because of the "health-injurious
conditions of
the industry."
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.5-6

1930
* Major asbestos company Johns-Manville produces report, for internal
company
use only, about medical reports of asbestos worker fatalities.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.663

1932
* Letter from U.S. Bureau of Mines to asbestos manufacturer
Eagle-Picher
states: "It is now known that asbestos dust is one of the most
dangerous dusts
to which man is exposed."
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.327

1933
* Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. doctors find that 29 percent of
workers in a
Johns-Manville plant have asbestosis.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.26

* Johns-Manville officials settle lawsuits by 11 employees with
asbestosis on
the condition that the employees' lawyer agree to never again
"directly or
indirectly participate in the bringing of new actions against the
Corporation."

Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.114

1934
* Officials of two large asbestos companies, Johns-Manville and
Raybestos-Manhattan, edit an article about the diseases of asbestos
workers
written by a Metropolitan Life Insurance Company doctor. The changes
minimize
the danger of asbestos dust.
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.114-15

1935
* Officials of Johns-Manville and Raybestos-Manhattan instruct the
editor of
Asbestos magazine to publish nothing about asbestosis.
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.116

1936
* A group of asbestos companies agrees to sponsor research on the
health
effects of asbestos dust, but require that the companies maintain
complete
control over the disclosure of the results.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.587

1942
* Internal Owens-Corning corporate memo refer to "medical literature
on
asbestosis . . . . scores of publications in which the lung and skin
hazards of
asbestos are discussed."
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.195

1942 or 1943
* The president of Johns-Manville says that the managers of another
asbestos
company were "a bunch of fools for notifying employees who had
asbestosis."
When one of the managers asks, "do you mean to tell me you would let
them work
until they dropped dead?" The response is reported to have been, "Yes.
We save
a lot of money that way."
Testimony of Charles H. Roemer, Deposition taken April 25, 1984,
Johns-Manville
Corp., et al v. the United States of America, U.S. Claims Court Civ.
No.
465-83C, cited in Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal
Aspects, 4th
edition, Aspen Law and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.581

1944
* Metropolitan Life Insurance Company report finds 42 cases of
asbestosis among
195 asbestos miners.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.654

1951
* Asbestos companies remove all references to cancer before allowing
publication of research they sponsor.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.71

1952
* Dr. Kenneth Smith, Johns-Manville medical director, recommends
(unsuccessfully) that warning labels be attached to products
containing
asbestos. Later Smith testifies: "It was a business decision as far as
I could
understand . . . the corporation is in business to provide jobs for
people and
make money for stockholders and they had to take into consideration
the effects
of everything they did and if the application of a caution label
identifying a
product as hazardous would cut into sales, there would be serious
financial
implications."
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.666

1953
* National Gypsum's safety director writes to the Indiana Division of
Industrial Hygiene, recommending that acoustic plaster mixers wear
respirators
"because of the asbestos used in the product." Another company
official notes
that the letter is "full of dynamite," urges that it be retrieved
before
reaching its destination. A memo in the files notes that the company
"succeeded
in stopping" the letter, which "will be modified."
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.669-70

1964
* Dr. Irving Selikoff publishes a study of asbestos workers in the
Journal of
the American Medical Association, proving that people who work with
asbestos-containing materials have an abnormal incidence of
asbestosis, lung
cancer, and mesothelioma.
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.126

1966

* Raybestos-Manhattan official writes: "We feel that the recent

unfavorable
publicity over the use of asbestos fibers in many different kinds of
industries
has been a gross exaggeration of the problems. There is no data
available to
either prove or disprove the dangers of working closely with
asbestos."
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.590

1971
* First OSHA asbestos-exposure standard issued.
Federal Register, vol.36, p.10466 et. seq.; May 29, 1971

1973
* The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) bans spray-on
asbestos
insulation as an air pollution hazard.
Federal Register, vol.38, p.8820 et. seq.; April 6, 1973

1977
* Lawyers for injured workers obtain the Sumner Simpson papers, which
show that
the companies had suppressed information about the danger of asbestos
for at
least 40 years.
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.111

* The first bill to limit the product liability of asbestos companies
is
introduced in Congress.
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.194

1978
* Judge rules there had been "a conscious effort by the [asbestos]
industry in
the 1930s to downplay or arguably suppress, the dissemination of
information to
employees and the public for fear of the promotion of lawsuits."
Amended order, Barnett v. Owens-Corning Fiberglas Corp et al, State of
South
Carolina, County of Greenville, Court of Common Pleas, Aug. 23, 1978,
cited in
Barry I. Castleman, Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects, 4th edition,
Aspen Law
and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1996, p.585

1979
* U.S. EPA announces intention to issue rule that bans all uses of
asbestos.
Federal Register, vol 44, p.60061
(Rulemaking completed after 10 years, in 1989)

1982
* Johns-Manville files for bankruptcy protection.
Paul Brodeur, Outrageous Misconduct: The Asbestos Industry on Trial,
Pantheon
Books, New York NY, 1985, p.249

1986
* OSHA tightens asbestos-exposure standard.
Federal Register vol. 51, p.22733, June 20, 1986

* U.S. EPA publishes text of proposed rule to ban all uses of
asbestos.
Environmental Defense Newsletter, XVII:2 May 1986

1989
* The U.S. EPA bans asbestos in most of its major uses, but . . .
Federal Register, vol.59, p.41027, August 10, 1994

1991
* Asbestos companies win federal lawsuit, court revokes EPA's 1989
asbestos
ban.
Federal Register, vol.59, p.41027, August 10, 1994

1994
* OSHA tightens asbestos-exposure standard.
Federal Register, vol. 59, p.40964 et. seq., August 10, 1994

1999
* Florida Supreme Court rules that Owens Corning willfully withheld
information
about the danger of working with the company's asbestos products: "It
would be
difficult to envision a more egregious set of circumstances . . . . a
blatant
disregard for human safety involving large numbers of people put at
life-threatening risk."
Opinion No. 92,963, August 26, 1999

Very large excerpts of Asbestos: Medical and Legal Aspects by Barry I.
Castleman (4th edition, Aspen Law and Business, Englewood Cliffs, NJ
1996) are
available on the internet.

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