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Pre-natal exposure to Thimerosal does not increase risk of autism
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Mark Probert - 18 Jun 2008 13:28 GMT Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print]
Maternal Rh D status, anti-D immune globulin exposure during pregnancy, and risk of autism spectrum disorders.
Croen LA, Matevia M, Yoshida CK, Grether JK.
Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Northern California, Oakland.
OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to investigate the association between maternal Rh D status, prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulin, and the risk of autism in the offspring.
STUDY DESIGN: Case-control study among children born from 1995 to 1999 at Kaiser Permanente Northern California hospitals. Cases (n =400) were children with an autism diagnosis; controls (n = 410) were children without autism, randomly sampled and frequency matched to cases on sex, birth year, and birth hospital. Maternal Rh D status and anti-D immune globulin exposure were ascertained from prenatal medical records.
RESULTS: No case-control differences were observed for maternal Rh negative status (11.5% vs 10.0%, P = .5) or prenatal anti-D immune globulin exposure (10.0% vs. 9.3%, P = .7). Risk of autism remained unassociated with maternal Rh status or prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulins after adjustment for covariates.
CONCLUSION: These data support previous findings that prenatal exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not increase the risk of autism.
Jan Drew - 18 Jun 2008 23:47 GMT Blatant lie.
Croen LA,
Pediatrics = Organized medicine.
Matevia M
APA = Organized medicine
Yoshida CK
Kaiser Foundation
Two men who teamed up with a Kaiser family scion to divert $2 million from a publicly traded telecommunications company to a venture capital firm have pleaded guilty to federal crimes.
Grether JK
APS and AMA
Poor Mark S Probert
"Mark S Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark Probert - 18 Jun 2008 23:57 GMT Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print]
Maternal Rh D status, anti-D immune globulin exposure during pregnancy, and risk of autism spectrum disorders.
Croen LA, Matevia M, Yoshida CK, Grether JK.
Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Northern California, Oakland.
OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to investigate the association between maternal Rh D status, prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulin, and the risk of autism in the offspring.
STUDY DESIGN: Case-control study among children born from 1995 to 1999 at Kaiser Permanente Northern California hospitals. Cases (n =400) were children with an autism diagnosis; controls (n = 410) were children without autism, randomly sampled and frequency matched to cases on sex, birth year, and birth hospital. Maternal Rh D status and anti-D immune globulin exposure were ascertained from prenatal medical records.
RESULTS: No case-control differences were observed for maternal Rh negative status (11.5% vs 10.0%, P = .5) or prenatal anti-D immune globulin exposure (10.0% vs. 9.3%, P = .7). Risk of autism remained unassociated with maternal Rh status or prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulins after adjustment for covariates.
CONCLUSION: These data support previous findings that prenatal exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not increase the risk of autism.
Jan Drew - 19 Jun 2008 04:09 GMT Blatant lie.
Croen LA,
Pediatrics = Organized medicine.
Matevia M
APA = Organized medicine
Yoshida CK
Kaiser Foundation
Two men who teamed up with a Kaiser family scion to divert $2 million from a publicly traded telecommunications company to a venture capital firm have pleaded guilty to federal crimes.
Grether JK
APS and AMA
Poor Mark S Probert
"Mark S Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark Probert - 19 Jun 2008 21:17 GMT Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print]
Maternal Rh D status, anti-D immune globulin exposure during pregnancy, and risk of autism spectrum disorders.
Croen LA, Matevia M, Yoshida CK, Grether JK.
Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Northern California, Oakland.
OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to investigate the association between maternal Rh D status, prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulin, and the risk of autism in the offspring.
STUDY DESIGN: Case-control study among children born from 1995 to 1999 at Kaiser Permanente Northern California hospitals. Cases (n =400) were children with an autism diagnosis; controls (n = 410) were children without autism, randomly sampled and frequency matched to cases on sex, birth year, and birth hospital. Maternal Rh D status and anti-D immune globulin exposure were ascertained from prenatal medical records.
RESULTS: No case-control differences were observed for maternal Rh negative status (11.5% vs 10.0%, P = .5) or prenatal anti-D immune globulin exposure (10.0% vs. 9.3%, P = .7). Risk of autism remained unassociated with maternal Rh status or prenatal exposure to anti-D immune globulins after adjustment for covariates.
CONCLUSION: These data support previous findings that prenatal exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not increase the risk of autism.
Jan Drew - 20 Jun 2008 23:19 GMT Oh, looky Mark S Probert with no morals has set this to follow up to alt null. Which *I* being *honest* fixed.
Jan Drew - 20 Jun 2008 23:25 GMT > Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print] > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not > increase the risk of autism. Blatant lie.
Croen LA,
Pediatrics = Organized medicine.
Matevia M
APA = Organized medicine
Yoshida CK
Kaiser Foundation
Two men who teamed up with a Kaiser family scion to divert $2 million from a publicly traded telecommunications company to a venture capital firm have pleaded guilty to federal crimes.
Grether JK
APS and AMA
Poor Mark S Probert
"Mark S Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
[ ] Btw, Mark S Probert, you did not give an apology when you lied about me and my mercury poisoning from mercury analgams. It has now been proven that they do indeed cause harm.
NOT one single gang member has apologized. Thus, proving EXACTLY none of you have any integrity.
drceephd@insightbb.com - 21 Jun 2008 16:04 GMT > Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print] > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not > increase the risk of autism. I am sure the EPA would agree....NOT. For example, from the EPA site: Outbreaks of methylmercury poisoning have made it clear that adults, children, and developing fetuses are at risk from dietary exposure to methylmercury. During these poisoning outbreaks some mothers with no symptoms of nervous system damage gave birth to infants with severe disabilities and it became clear that the developing nervous system of the fetus may be more vulnerable to methylmercury than is the adult nervous system.
It has been demonstrated that amimals exposed to ethylmercury suffer similar to worse health problems.
Of course, with a P of 0.5 to 0.7, this study is crap. And by the way, what were the results before manipulating the results, you know "adjusting for covariates"? And BTW, to get 400 autistic kids, the minimum number looked at had to be over 60,000 at an odds ratio of 1 to 150. An n=410 then is worthless, isn't it?
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
Mark Probert - 21 Jun 2008 16:50 GMT On Jun 21, 11:04 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> > Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print] > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I am sure the EPA would agree....NOT. Hi Idiot!
Thimerosal contains ETHYL mercury, not Methyl Mercury. Your Martian education was just dust blowing in the martian wind.
drivel deleted.
drceephd@insightbb.com - 21 Jun 2008 17:02 GMT > On Jun 21, 11:04 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Uhmm, Pervert, if you bother to read the second paragraph, you will notice I talk about ethylmercury, the form that is in thimerosal.
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
Mark Probert - 21 Jun 2008 17:39 GMT On Jun 21, 12:02 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> > On Jun 21, 11:04 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Uhmm, Pervert, if you bother to read the second paragraph, you will > notice I talk about ethylmercury, the form that is in thimerosal. Oh, I did bother to read it. However, I was having an "alternative moment" and decided to pull the "quote to change meaning gambit" and make you look like a bigger anus than you usually do all by your wittle self..
Now, pus-for-brains, do explain why you mentioned MeHg, when it is known to be far more toxic than EHg.
Jan Drew - 22 Jun 2008 05:34 GMT On Jun 21, 12:02 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> On Jun 21, 11:50 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Uhmm, Pervert, if you bother to read the second paragraph, you will > notice I talk about ethylmercury, the form that is in thimerosal. Oh, I did bother to read it. However, I was having an "alternative moment" and decided to pull the "quote to change meaning gambit" and make you look like a bigger anus than you usually do all by your wittle self..
Now, pus-for-brains, do explain why you mentioned MeHg, when it is known to be far more toxic than EHg. --------------------------------------- Now, Richard Schultz, do you believe Mark S Probert read Torah everyday?
Jan Drew - 22 Jun 2008 02:06 GMT On Jun 21, 11:04 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
<drceephd@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:f32e4638-874b-47e2-963d-f64661c0ec6f@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print] > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > exposure to thimerosal-containing anti-D immune globulins does not > increase the risk of autism. I am sure the EPA would agree....NOT. For example, from the EPA site: Outbreaks of methylmercury poisoning have made it clear that adults, children, and developing fetuses are at risk from dietary exposure to methylmercury. During these poisoning outbreaks some mothers with no symptoms of nervous system damage gave birth to infants with severe disabilities and it became clear that the developing nervous system of the fetus may be more vulnerable to methylmercury than is the adult nervous system.
It has been demonstrated that amimals exposed to ethylmercury suffer similar to worse health problems.
Of course, with a P of 0.5 to 0.7, this study is crap. And by the way, what were the results before manipulating the results, you know "adjusting for covariates"? And BTW, to get 400 autistic kids, the minimum number looked at had to be over 60,000 at an odds ratio of 1 to 150. An n=410 then is worthless, isn't it?
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
> On Jun 18, 8:28 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > I am sure the EPA would agree....NOT. Hi Idiot! ------------------------------ Another day without read Torah--proven liar, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY
Thimerosal contains ETHYL mercury, not Methyl Mercury. Your Martian education was just dust blowing in the martian wind.
drivel deleted.
lol. Restored above when DR Cee did indeed address ethlymerecury.
D. C. Sessions - 21 Jun 2008 17:37 GMT >> Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2008 Jun 11; [Epub ahead of print] >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > the fetus may be more vulnerable to methylmercury than is the adult > nervous system. If Rhogam is, indeed, a significant contributor to autism it should be trivially easy to demonstrate by simply showing that Rh- mothers have more autistic children than Rh+ mothers.
By all means do so -- somehow it seems that the rest of the "Rhogam causes autism" set have not bothered to, for whatever reason.
> It has been demonstrated that amimals exposed to ethylmercury suffer > similar to worse health problems. Actually, every study comparing the two comes up with the opposite result. However, I can see why you might not have recognized that based on the following:
> Of course, with a P of 0.5 to 0.7, this study is crap. Marvelous demonstration of your own innumeracy, that.
Does someone want to break the news to Chuckles about the meaning of "p=0.5?" I'm thinking that this is good for more laughs.
> And by the > way, what were the results before manipulating the results, you know > "adjusting for covariates"? You mean stuff like gender? Are you proposing that mercury causes boys or some such?
> And BTW, to get 400 autistic kids, the > minimum number looked at had to be over 60,000 at an odds ratio of 1 > to 150. An n=410 then is worthless, isn't it? No, because (perhaps you should have someone read it to you) "Cases (n =400) were children with an autism diagnosis; controls (n = 410) were children without autism, randomly sampled and frequency matched to cases on sex, birth year, and birth hospital."
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Mark Probert - 21 Jun 2008 18:03 GMT > In message <f32e4638-874b-47e2-963d-f64661c0e...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > (n = 410) were children without autism, randomly sampled and frequency > matched to cases on sex, birth year, and birth hospital." Chuckie did not learn any of that stuff at the Martian Medical School.
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