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rpautrey2 - 13 Jun 2008 19:37 GMT 'Homeopathy works!' by JENNY HOPE Daily Mail
Homeopathy really does work and doctors should recognise its healing effects, say researchers.
A study found that allergy sufferers who were given homeopathic treatment were ten times more likely to be cured than those given a dummy pill instead.
Doctors should be more positive about the alternative medicine, which is the only complementary therapy available on the NHS, the researchers said.
Their study attempts to settle the controversy over homeopathic treatment, which critics say is not effective because of the tiny level of active substance used in most remedies.
It works on the principle that a substance which in large doses will cause the symptoms of an illness can be used in minute doses to relieve the same symptoms.
Critics argue that the active substance is so diluted that homeopathic remedies have no more effect than placebo or dummy treatment.
The study put homeopathy to the test in 50 patients suffering from nasal allergies. They were given either a homeopathic preparation or a placebo.
Each day for four weeks patients recruited from general practices and a hospital in London measured their nasal air flow and recorded symptoms such as blocked, runny or itchy nose, sneezing or eye irritation.
Both groups reported that they got better - but on average patients who received homeopathy had a 28 per cent improvement in nasal air flow compared with 3 per cent among those in the placebo group.
The study was carried out by doctors in Glasgow, led by Dr David Reilly of the Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital, one of five specialist hospitals in Britain. He said the difference in results from the two treatments was statistically significant.
Dr Reilly said this was the fourth trial carried out by his hospital, all with similar results. In addition, there were positive findings in 70 per cent of a further 180 clinical trials.
'I hope this will encourage doctors to examine the volume of evidence supporting homeopathy - they might be quite surprised at the positive outcome in many trials,' he said.
He added that it would take consistent scientific investigation to persuade some doctors, but attitudes were changing.
About 20 per cent of doctors in Scotland have basic homeopathic training compared with one per cent 15 years ago.
'It isn't just about the remedies, which can be put to the test in trials, but about a greater holistic approach in encouraging self- healing and self-recovery.'
Dr Bob Leckridge, president of the Faculty of Homeopathy - the body for doctors, vets, nurses and other health professionals - said: 'This latest research builds on existing evidence that homeopathy works, something that hundreds of doctors and their patients have known for 200 years.'
© 2008 Associated Newspapers Ltd
URL: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4040/Homeopathy-works.html
Peter Moran - 13 Jun 2008 23:22 GMT 'Homeopathy works!' by JENNY HOPE Daily Mail
Homeopathy really does work and doctors should recognise its healing effects, say researchers.
A study found that allergy sufferers who were given homeopathic treatment were ten times more likely to be cured than those given a dummy pill instead.
PM An awful and clearly deliberate missrepresentation. I am very familiar with this 2000 study . There was actually no overall significant improvement in symptoms for homeopathy when compared to placebo. Homeopaths like to highlight the isolated finding that there was an improvement in nasal air flow in the homoepathy group, but if not associated with symptom relief this is of no obvious clinical value (certainly not a "cure") and no other study has been able to such demonstrate objective beneifts from homeopathic preparations. It is obviously a trial artefact of some kind.
PM When combined with three other studies in a rather dubious meta analysis there was significant symptom benefits for homoepathic preparations over placebo, but this seems to be explained by exceptional poor results (3%) in the placebo group, suggesting loss of blinding.
Here is the abstract. BMJ. 2000 Aug 19-26;321(7259):471-6
Randomised controlled trial of homoeopathy versus placebo in perennial allergic rhinitis with overview of four trial series.Taylor MA, Reilly D, Llewellyn-Jones RH, McSharry C, Aitchison TC.
University Department of Medicine, Glasgow Royal Infirmary, Glasgow G31 2ER.
OBJECTIVE: To test the hypothesis that homoeopathy is a placebo by examining its effect in patients with allergic rhinitis and so contest the evidence from three previous trials in this series. Design: Randomised, double blind, placebo controlled, parallel group, multicentre study. SETTING: Four general practices and a hospital ear, nose, and throat outpatient department. PARTICIPANTS: 51 patients with perennial allergic rhinitis. Intervention: Random assignment to an oral 30c homoeopathic preparation of principal inhalant allergen or to placebo. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Changes from baseline in nasal inspiratory peak flow and symptom visual analogue scale score over third and fourth weeks after randomisation. RESULTS: Fifty patients completed the study. The homoeopathy group had a significant objective improvement in nasal airflow compared with the placebo group (mean difference 19.8 l/min, 95% confidence interval 10.4 to 29.1, P=0.0001). Both groups reported improvement in symptoms, with patients taking homoeopathy reporting more improvement in all but one of the centres, which had more patients with aggravations. On average no significant difference between the groups was seen on visual analogue scale scores. Initial aggravations of rhinitis symptoms were more common with homoeopathy than placebo (7 (30%) v 2 (7%), P=0.04). Addition of these results to those of three previous trials (n=253) showed a mean symptom reduction on visual analogue scores of 28% (10.9 mm) for homoeopathy compared with 3% (1.1 mm) for placebo (95% confidence interval 4.2 to 15.4, P=0.0007). CONCLUSION: The objective results reinforce earlier evidence that homoeopathic dilutions differ from placebo.
PM
Doctors should be more positive about the alternative medicine, which is the only complementary therapy available on the NHS, the researchers said.
Their study attempts to settle the controversy over homeopathic treatment, which critics say is not effective because of the tiny level of active substance used in most remedies.
It works on the principle that a substance which in large doses will cause the symptoms of an illness can be used in minute doses to relieve the same symptoms.
Critics argue that the active substance is so diluted that homeopathic remedies have no more effect than placebo or dummy treatment.
The study put homeopathy to the test in 50 patients suffering from nasal allergies. They were given either a homeopathic preparation or a placebo.
Each day for four weeks patients recruited from general practices and a hospital in London measured their nasal air flow and recorded symptoms such as blocked, runny or itchy nose, sneezing or eye irritation.
Both groups reported that they got better - but on average patients who received homeopathy had a 28 per cent improvement in nasal air flow compared with 3 per cent among those in the placebo group.
The study was carried out by doctors in Glasgow, led by Dr David Reilly of the Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital, one of five specialist hospitals in Britain. He said the difference in results from the two treatments was statistically significant.
Dr Reilly said this was the fourth trial carried out by his hospital, all with similar results. In addition, there were positive findings in 70 per cent of a further 180 clinical trials.
'I hope this will encourage doctors to examine the volume of evidence supporting homeopathy - they might be quite surprised at the positive outcome in many trials,' he said.
He added that it would take consistent scientific investigation to persuade some doctors, but attitudes were changing.
About 20 per cent of doctors in Scotland have basic homeopathic training compared with one per cent 15 years ago.
'It isn't just about the remedies, which can be put to the test in trials, but about a greater holistic approach in encouraging self- healing and self-recovery.'
Dr Bob Leckridge, president of the Faculty of Homeopathy - the body for doctors, vets, nurses and other health professionals - said: 'This latest research builds on existing evidence that homeopathy works, something that hundreds of doctors and their patients have known for 200 years.'
© 2008 Associated Newspapers Ltd
URL: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4040/Homeopathy-works.html
Citizen Jimserac - 14 Jun 2008 01:15 GMT > 'Homeopathy works!' > by JENNY HOPE [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > beneifts from homeopathic preparations. It is obviously a trial artefact > of some kind. Oh those TRICKSTERS! At it again are they. All they did was provide relief for the patient but you say this is disqualified cuz it was not associated with symptomatic relief and hence of no clinical value.
Could everyone please read that again because I can't believe I just read that.
And get this one, NO OTHER study has been able to demonstrate objective benefits from Homeopathic preparations (??!!!).
Well, I guess if you don't look then it must not have happened.
Ostriches make out well that way.
Citizen Jimserac
Peter Moran - 14 Jun 2008 23:44 GMT On Jun 13, 6:22 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> "rpautrey2" <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > beneifts from homeopathic preparations. It is obviously a trial artefact > of some kind. Oh those TRICKSTERS! At it again are they. All they did was provide relief for the patient but you say this is disqualified cuz it was not associated with symptomatic relief and hence of no clinical value.
PM -- --- Uhm, --- no. Patient symptoms were not improved in the present study beyond what placebo did, so there was no "relief" for the patients. If, despite this, you want to regard the increased nasal air flow as an important finding that makes so little sense that you would surely want to have this borne out in other studies. I am sure there are none.
PM
Could everyone please read that again because I can't believe I just read that.
And get this one, NO OTHER study has been able to demonstrate objective benefits from Homeopathic preparations (??!!!).
Well, I guess if you don't look then it must not have happened.
Ostriches make out well that way.
Citizen Jimserac
Jan Drew - 15 Jun 2008 00:50 GMT >placebo
>placebo Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 1,030 for Peter Moran placebo
Citizen Jimserac - 15 Jun 2008 12:19 GMT > "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > CitizenJimserac I can give links and cites that DO show unmistakable improvement well beyond placebo but then you could attack the protocols, the methodology, the weather, the cosmic rays. There is always SOME dispute that the denialist will have even when confronted with facts....FACTS, positive results, all are irrelevant to those with preconceived notions that shut off their thinking.
I offer you one last avenue of investigation. Search for the statistics on various illnesses in which Homeopaths and Allopaths worked. As you know the success rates for the Homeopaths were much higher with far fewer deaths. I at one time accepted the standard explanation for this, that allopathic techniques of the time were so bad that by doing essentially nothing, the Homeopaths succeeded. THEN I investigated a wee bit more. In fact, the success rate of the Homeopaths went WELL BEYOND ANY POSSIBLE PLACEBO explanation. The number of people who would have survived on mere placebo or doing nothing was far less than the number of people that did survive. Clearly the Homeopathic remedies. worked.
There are some GOOD arguments against Homeopathy but they have more to do with the small number of Homeopaths trained properly, the lack of research, a consequence of allopathic medicine's successful war against Homeopathy which closed all of their medical schools and killed all research funding. The inevitable return of Homeopathy and the current growing body of research with POSITIVE results marks time until the fundamental research breakthroughs explaining its mechanism are published.
History will NOT be kind to the hysterical innuendo attacks against Homeopathy, a system of medicine for THIS century that will not be denied by the scientific limitations of the LAST century.
We may very well see a reaction against allopathic medicine in which the narrow minded specialists of their one sided and self proscribed system come under serious scrutiny and the evidence for THEIR results is found to be not as good as what Homeopathy has been doing all along.
Citizen Jimserac Childhood Rash followed by Asthma - standard medicine treats two DIFFERENT diseases with different remedies to suppress the symptoms. Homeopathy sees it as ONE disease and knocks them both out with ONE remedy.
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