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rpautrey2 - 13 Jun 2008 19:37 GMT
'Homeopathy works!'
by JENNY HOPE
Daily Mail

Homeopathy really does work and doctors should recognise its healing
effects, say researchers.

A study found that allergy sufferers who were given homeopathic
treatment were ten times more likely to be cured than those given a
dummy pill instead.

Doctors should be more positive about the alternative medicine, which
is the only complementary therapy available on the NHS, the
researchers said.

Their study attempts to settle the controversy over homeopathic
treatment, which critics say is not effective because of the tiny
level of active substance used in most remedies.

It works on the principle that a substance which in large doses will
cause the symptoms of an illness can be used in minute doses to
relieve the same symptoms.

Critics argue that the active substance is so diluted that homeopathic
remedies have no more effect than placebo or dummy treatment.

The study put homeopathy to the test in 50 patients suffering from
nasal allergies. They were given either a homeopathic preparation or a
placebo.

Each day for four weeks patients recruited from general practices and
a hospital in London measured their nasal air flow and recorded
symptoms such as blocked, runny or itchy nose, sneezing or eye
irritation.

Both groups reported that they got better - but on average patients
who received homeopathy had a 28 per cent improvement in nasal air
flow compared with 3 per cent among those in the placebo group.

The study was carried out by doctors in Glasgow, led by Dr David
Reilly of the Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital, one of five specialist
hospitals in Britain. He said the difference in results from the two
treatments was statistically significant.

Dr Reilly said this was the fourth trial carried out by his hospital,
all with similar results. In addition, there were positive findings in
70 per cent of a further 180 clinical trials.

'I hope this will encourage doctors to examine the volume of evidence
supporting homeopathy - they might be quite surprised at the positive
outcome in many trials,' he said.

He added that it would take consistent scientific investigation to
persuade some doctors, but attitudes were changing.

About 20 per cent of doctors in Scotland have basic homeopathic
training compared with one per cent 15 years ago.

'It isn't just about the remedies, which can be put to the test in
trials, but about a greater holistic approach in encouraging self-
healing and self-recovery.'

Dr Bob Leckridge, president of the Faculty of Homeopathy - the body
for doctors, vets, nurses and other health professionals - said: 'This
latest research builds on existing evidence that homeopathy works,
something that hundreds of doctors and their patients have known for
200 years.'

© 2008 Associated Newspapers Ltd

URL:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4040/Homeopathy-works.html
Peter Moran - 13 Jun 2008 23:22 GMT
'Homeopathy works!'
by JENNY HOPE
Daily Mail

Homeopathy really does work and doctors should recognise its healing
effects, say researchers.

A study found that allergy sufferers who were given homeopathic
treatment were ten times more likely to be cured than those given a
dummy pill instead.

PM   An awful and clearly deliberate missrepresentation.   I am very
familiar with this 2000 study .   There was actually no overall significant
improvement in symptoms for homeopathy when compared to placebo.
Homeopaths like to highlight the isolated finding that there was an
improvement in nasal air flow in the homoepathy group, but if not associated
with symptom  relief this is of no obvious clinical value (certainly not a
"cure") and no other study has been able to such demonstrate objective
beneifts from homeopathic preparations.   It is obviously a trial artefact
of some kind.

PM When combined with three other studies in a rather dubious meta analysis
there was significant symptom benefits for homoepathic preparations over
placebo, but this seems to be explained by exceptional poor results (3%) in
the placebo group, suggesting loss of blinding.

Here is the  abstract.
BMJ. 2000 Aug 19-26;321(7259):471-6

Randomised controlled trial of homoeopathy versus placebo in perennial
allergic rhinitis with overview of four trial series.Taylor MA, Reilly D,
Llewellyn-Jones RH, McSharry C, Aitchison TC.

University Department of Medicine, Glasgow Royal Infirmary, Glasgow G31 2ER.

OBJECTIVE: To test the hypothesis that homoeopathy is a placebo by examining
its effect in patients with allergic rhinitis and so contest the evidence
from three previous trials in this series. Design: Randomised, double blind,
placebo controlled, parallel group, multicentre study. SETTING: Four general
practices and a hospital ear, nose, and throat outpatient department.
PARTICIPANTS: 51 patients with perennial allergic rhinitis. Intervention:
Random assignment to an oral 30c homoeopathic preparation of principal
inhalant allergen or to placebo. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Changes from
baseline in nasal inspiratory peak flow and symptom visual analogue scale
score over third and fourth weeks after randomisation. RESULTS: Fifty
patients completed the study. The homoeopathy group had a significant
objective improvement in nasal airflow compared with the placebo group (mean
difference 19.8 l/min, 95% confidence interval 10.4 to 29.1, P=0.0001). Both
groups reported improvement in symptoms, with patients taking homoeopathy
reporting more improvement in all but one of the centres, which had more
patients with aggravations. On average no significant difference between the
groups was seen on visual analogue scale scores. Initial aggravations of
rhinitis symptoms were more common with homoeopathy than placebo (7 (30%) v
2 (7%), P=0.04). Addition of these results to those of three previous trials
(n=253) showed a mean symptom reduction on visual analogue scores of 28%
(10.9 mm) for homoeopathy compared with 3% (1.1 mm) for placebo (95%
confidence interval 4.2 to 15.4, P=0.0007). CONCLUSION: The objective
results reinforce earlier evidence that homoeopathic dilutions differ from
placebo.

PM

Doctors should be more positive about the alternative medicine, which
is the only complementary therapy available on the NHS, the
researchers said.

Their study attempts to settle the controversy over homeopathic
treatment, which critics say is not effective because of the tiny
level of active substance used in most remedies.

It works on the principle that a substance which in large doses will
cause the symptoms of an illness can be used in minute doses to
relieve the same symptoms.

Critics argue that the active substance is so diluted that homeopathic
remedies have no more effect than placebo or dummy treatment.

The study put homeopathy to the test in 50 patients suffering from
nasal allergies. They were given either a homeopathic preparation or a
placebo.

Each day for four weeks patients recruited from general practices and
a hospital in London measured their nasal air flow and recorded
symptoms such as blocked, runny or itchy nose, sneezing or eye
irritation.

Both groups reported that they got better - but on average patients
who received homeopathy had a 28 per cent improvement in nasal air
flow compared with 3 per cent among those in the placebo group.

The study was carried out by doctors in Glasgow, led by Dr David
Reilly of the Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital, one of five specialist
hospitals in Britain. He said the difference in results from the two
treatments was statistically significant.

Dr Reilly said this was the fourth trial carried out by his hospital,
all with similar results. In addition, there were positive findings in
70 per cent of a further 180 clinical trials.

'I hope this will encourage doctors to examine the volume of evidence
supporting homeopathy - they might be quite surprised at the positive
outcome in many trials,' he said.

He added that it would take consistent scientific investigation to
persuade some doctors, but attitudes were changing.

About 20 per cent of doctors in Scotland have basic homeopathic
training compared with one per cent 15 years ago.

'It isn't just about the remedies, which can be put to the test in
trials, but about a greater holistic approach in encouraging self-
healing and self-recovery.'

Dr Bob Leckridge, president of the Faculty of Homeopathy - the body
for doctors, vets, nurses and other health professionals - said: 'This
latest research builds on existing evidence that homeopathy works,
something that hundreds of doctors and their patients have known for
200 years.'

© 2008 Associated Newspapers Ltd

URL:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4040/Homeopathy-works.html
Citizen Jimserac - 14 Jun 2008 01:15 GMT
> 'Homeopathy works!'
> by JENNY HOPE
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> beneifts from homeopathic preparations.   It is obviously a trial artefact
> of some kind.

Oh those TRICKSTERS! At it again are they.  All they did was  provide
relief for the patient but you say this is disqualified cuz it was not
associated
with symptomatic relief and hence of no clinical value.

Could everyone please read that again because I can't believe
I just read that.

And get this one, NO OTHER study has been able to demonstrate
objective benefits from Homeopathic preparations (??!!!).

Well, I guess if you don't look then it must not have happened.

Ostriches make out well that way.

Citizen Jimserac
Peter Moran - 14 Jun 2008 23:44 GMT
On Jun 13, 6:22 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> "rpautrey2" <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> beneifts from homeopathic preparations. It is obviously a trial artefact
> of some kind.

Oh those TRICKSTERS! At it again are they.  All they did was  provide
relief for the patient but you say this is disqualified cuz it was not
associated
with symptomatic relief and hence of no clinical value.

PM  -- ---   Uhm,  ---  no.   Patient symptoms were not improved in the
present study beyond what placebo did,  so there was no "relief" for the
patients.     If,  despite this, you want to regard the increased nasal air
flow as an important finding that makes so little sense that you would
surely want to have this borne out in other studies.   I am sure there are
none.

PM

Could everyone please read that again because I can't believe
I just read that.

And get this one, NO OTHER study has been able to demonstrate
objective benefits from Homeopathic preparations (??!!!).

Well, I guess if you don't look then it must not have happened.

Ostriches make out well that way.

Citizen Jimserac
Jan Drew - 15 Jun 2008 00:50 GMT
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Citizen Jimserac - 15 Jun 2008 12:19 GMT
> "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> CitizenJimserac

I can give links and cites that DO show unmistakable improvement well
beyond
placebo but then you could attack the protocols, the methodology, the
weather,
the cosmic rays.  There is always SOME dispute that the denialist
will have even when confronted with facts....FACTS, positive results,
all are irrelevant to those with preconceived notions that shut off
their thinking.

I offer you one last avenue of investigation.   Search for the
statistics
on various illnesses in which Homeopaths and Allopaths worked.
As you know the success rates for the Homeopaths were much higher
with far fewer deaths.   I at one time accepted the standard
explanation for this, that allopathic techniques of the time were
so bad that by doing essentially nothing, the Homeopaths succeeded.
THEN I investigated a wee bit more.
In fact, the success rate of the Homeopaths went WELL BEYOND ANY
POSSIBLE PLACEBO explanation.   The number of people who
would have survived on mere placebo or doing nothing was
far less than the number of people that did survive.
Clearly the Homeopathic remedies. worked.

There are some GOOD arguments against Homeopathy
but they have more to do with the small number of
Homeopaths trained properly, the lack of research,
a consequence of allopathic medicine's successful war
against Homeopathy which closed all of their medical schools
and killed all research funding.  The inevitable return
of Homeopathy and the current growing body of
research with POSITIVE results marks time until
the fundamental research breakthroughs explaining its mechanism
are published.

History will NOT be kind to the hysterical innuendo
attacks against Homeopathy, a system of medicine
for THIS century that will not be denied by the
scientific limitations of the LAST century.

We may very well see a reaction against allopathic
medicine in which the narrow minded specialists
of their one sided and self proscribed system
come under serious scrutiny and the
evidence for THEIR results is found to be
not as good as what Homeopathy has
been doing all along.

Citizen Jimserac
Childhood Rash followed by Asthma - standard
medicine treats two DIFFERENT diseases with
different remedies to suppress the symptoms.
Homeopathy sees it as ONE disease
and knocks them  both out with ONE remedy.
 
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