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Oxford Journals Medicine Evidence-based Compl. and Alt. Medicine Volume 3, Number 4 Pp. 397-409 eCAM Advance Access originally published online on July 31, 2006 eCAM 2006 3(4):397-409; doi:10.1093/ecam/nel046 This Article
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Immunology and Homeopathy. 4. Clinical Studies—Part 2
Paolo Bellavite1, Riccardo Ortolani2, Francesco Pontarollo1, Valeria Piasere1, Giovanni Benato2 and Anita Conforti3 1 Department of Scienze Morfologico-Biomediche Piazza L.A. Scuro, 37134 Verona, Italy, 2 Association for Integrative Medicine ‘Giovanni Scolaro’ Piazza L.A. Scuro, 37134 Verona, Italy, and 3 Department of Medicina e Sanità Pubblica, University of Verona Piazza L.A. Scuro, 37134 Verona, Italy
Abstract
The clinical studies on the effectiveness of homeopathy in respiratory allergy (18 randomized trials and 9 observational studies) are described. The literature of common immunologic disorders including also upper respiratory tract infections (URTI) and otorhinolaryngology (reported in part 1), is evaluated and discussed. Most of initial evidence-based research was addressed to the question of whether homeopathic high dilutions are placebos or possess specific effects, but this question has been often equivocal and is still a matter of debate. The evidence demonstrates that in some conditions homeopathy shows significant promise, e.g. Galphimia glauca (low dilutions/ potencies) in allergic oculorhinitis, classical individualized homeopathy in otitis and possibly in asthma and allergic complaints, and a few low-potency homeopathic complexes in sinusitis and rhinoconjunctivitis. A general weakness of evidence derives from lack of independent confirmation of reported trials and from presence of conflicting results, as in case of homeopathic immunotherapy and of classical homeopathy for URTI. The suitable methods to evaluate homeopathy effectiveness, without altering the setting of cure, are also analyzed.
Keywords: allergy – asthma – evidence-based homeopathy – homeopathic immunotherapy – homeopathic medications – homeopathy – immunology – isopathy – rhinoconjunctivitis
Introduction
In the first part of this review (1) the evidence-based research on homeopathy in common upper respiratory tract infections (URTI) or in otorhinolaryngologic complaints has been described. We shall here describe studies performed in the field of allergology and, more specifically, in oculorhinitis (hayfever) and allergic asthma. The methods of analysis and the criteria of classification are the same as described in the first part of the review.
Finally, the global body of evidence regarding the effectiveness of the different therapeutic approaches, in the conditions considered in this review, is presented in the Discussion. Here, the classification of the therapeutic approaches is made according to a grade of evidence in six levels, which was developed by Natural Standard, an international research collaboration that aggregates and synthesizes data on complementary and alternative therapies (http:// www.naturalstandard.com/index.asp). A summary of these criteria is reported in Table 1.
Table 1 Synthesis of the levels of evidence of therapeutic efficacy
Allergic Conditions
Allergies are the most common immunological diseases among general population, and increasing evidence suggests that incidence of allergic disorders is rising dramatically. The results of several studies indicated that patients before seeking homeopathic care for their allergic symptoms were unsatisfied within conventional health care system and that their choice was mostly motivated by assumption of few side-effects or by a wish to ‘try everything’ (2–7). Approximately 50% of asthma patients in the UK have used some form of complementary therapy for their asthma at some stage, and most of these patients have indicated that they derived at least some benefit (8). Several studies using homeopathy have reported beneficial effects from treating allergy-related conditions, other studies have not found benefits over placebo. A summary of these papers in chronological order is given in Table 2, here in the text they will be grouped according to different modalities of therapy that have been investigated.
Table 2 Homeopathic clinical studies of allergy and asthma
Classic Individualized Homeopathy According to this approach each patient received his/her single medicine (‘simillimum’). In many reports using classic individualized prescription, there is an indication of most frequently used medicines.
In starting this brief analysis of results obtained in allergology, we cite a retrospective study, reported at a homeopathic conference (13), which included children treated with individualized homeopathy. The results appeared to be encouraging, since 44.2% of patients had a ‘satisfactory reaction’, 36.7% a ‘manifest improvement’, 18.3% a ‘relative improvement’ and 0.8% showing ‘no reaction’. The remedies prescribed most frequently were Lycopodium clavatum, sulphur, Pulsatilla and Silicea.
Castellsagu (16), retrospectively evaluated a series of children who had suffered from allergic bronchial asthma, and who were treated with a single drug in accordance with classical homeopathic method. Twenty- two different drugs were prescribed (the most used were sulphur, Calcarea carbonica, Lycopodium and Pulsatilla), at different potencies. After 3 years of treatment, the results showed a complete cure in 58% of cases, improvements in 23% and failures in 19%. In brief, the results obtained in such a serious chronic disease are encouraging, but the open and uncontrolled nature of the trial makes it impossible to draw definite conclusions.
A further retrospective study evaluated patients suffering from bronchial asthma (both children and adults) and under individualized homeopathic treatment for more than 3 years (22). A statistically significant decrease in frequency and severity of attacks before and after treatment was reported. There was also a marked decrease in the use of conventional medication. The most frequently prescribed remedies were Arsenicum album, Nux vomica, sulphur, Pulsatilla and Silica.
A communication in a conference of International Homeopathic Liga reported a trial on the effectiveness of classical individualized treatment of asthmatic people who were allergic to dermatophagoides (23). Symptoms and immunologic parameters were evaluated before and after an 8 months treatment. Significant decrease in number of exacerbations, of spirometric tests and immunologic markers was observed in active homeopathic group. A full report would permit a detailed evaluation of the trial.
A trial on individualized homeopathic therapy in asthma was published in a Mexican homeopathic journal (25). The study was double blind and controlled with placebo but the randomization was not specified. The main result was a reduction of asthma attacks after 4 months of therapy, with a significant difference in favor of homeopathy.
A pharmacoeconomic study (not reported in Table 2 because it does not concern effectiveness) assessed the homeopathic treatment in allergic diseases in a health maintenance organization (4). The computerized medication charts of each patient were evaluated for conventional medication consumption 3 months before and 3 months after homeopathic intervention, with each patient serving as his or her own control. The results showed that 56% of patients reduced their use of conventional medication following homeopathic intervention. The most significant reduction was in anti-histamine use, followed by decreases in bronchodilator use and steroids, with an average saving of $24 per patient in the 3 month period following homeopathic intervention.
Negative Trial, Questionable Method
The effects of individualized homeopathic remedies as an adjunct to conventional treatment were compared with placebo medication in children with mild to moderate asthma (33). There were no clinically relevant or statistically significant changes in active quality-of- life score. Scores of severity of symptoms indicated relative improvements but the sizes of effects were small. The authors concluded that adjunctive homeopathic remedies are not superior to placebo in improving the quality of life of children with mild to moderate asthma. This is a study that raised high media coverage as a proof of inefficacy of homeopathy, but various authors have raised doubts that the parameters used were sensitive enough to differentiate between children who have no asthma and those who have only mild asthma (38–40). In fact, included patients had very mild or lacking symptoms, which hardly could be ameliorated. Therefore, this study should be interpreted with caution.
Effectiveness in ‘Real World’
An observational study where outcome and costs of homeopathic therapy were compared with those of conventional treatment in routine care has been published (36). Since all children included in this study were affected by allergic diseases (homeopathic therapy: 54 atopic dermatitis, 20 allergic rhinitis, 17 asthma; conventional therapy: 64 atopic dermatitis, 11 allergic rhinitis, 12 asthma), the results of this subset of patients may be of interest for this review. Allergic children were treated either with classic homeopathic approach or with conventional therapies provided by doctors selected from an address list of general practitioners. The two groups were not randomized but their disease grade at baseline was similar. After 12 months of cure, symptom severity scores decreased more significantly in homeopathic group than in conventional group. There was also a trend to a better improvement of quality of life in the homeopathic group, but not statistically significant after diagnosis-specific adjustment.
A series of cases of respiratory allergy treated with individualized and constitutional homeopathy in a private homeopathic practice was recently reported (37). The author estimated an overall success rate of 87.6% for homeopathic treatment in these conditions. Only two cases of ear, nose and throat allergies out of a total of 105 showed no improvement, no patients deteriorated. Two cases with worsening and three without improvement were noted out of 42 cases of pulmonary allergies.
Homeopathic Immunotherapy
One of the most extensive lines of research in homeopathy was the attempt to utilize high dilutions of substances, known to cause allergy, to prevent or cure the same allergies. This is an application of the ancient isopathic principle (41) that has been also termed ‘homeopathic immunotherapy (HIT)’ (11,14,42). The chosen model, use of pollen in hay fever, actually comes from the work of a homeopath—Dr Charles Blackley—who, in the 1870s, first identified pollen as the cause of respiratory seasonal allergies (42).
To start the description of these results, it is worth citing a first report in a non-indexed journal by Hardy in 1984 (9). The authors showed a relief of oculorhinitis symptoms in patients allergic to house dust by homeopathic potencies of house dust. The same approach characterized long-lasting and deep investigations by a group led by D. Reilly. A double-blind study, published as preliminary report in 1985 (43) and as a full paper in 1986 (11), compared the effects of placebo and of a 30c homeopathic preparation designed as Pollen because it contained a mixture of 12 pollens. The results were positive insofar as patients receiving the homeopathic treatment had significantly fewer symptoms and used half of anti-histamine rescue treatment than controls.
The same group published the results of a study on patients with severe atopic asthma requiring daily administrations of bronchodilators, most of whom were being treated with steroids (14). Patients received a placebo for 4 weeks and were then randomly divided into two groups, one of which continued the placebo, whereas the other was treated with a 30c homeopathic preparation of the main allergen to which each patient was sensitive. The patients revealed a statistically significant difference in favor of the active treatment. These studies, enriched by further statistical analyses and a meta- analysis of all of patients, were published in 1994 (15) and showed an extremely high probability (P = 0.0004) that the homeopathic effect was not due to a placebo effect. The time-course of symptoms improvement of this trial series is reported in Fig. 1. A clear difference can be seen between HIT and placebo, but the effect may be considered quite small for therapeutic purposes.
Figure 1 Effect of homoeopathic immunotherapy (HIT) on visual analogue scale (VAS) scores averaged over four trials. On average, there was a mean reduction of the visual analogue scale score of 10.9 mm in the homoeopathy group compared with 1.1 mm in the placebo group (P < 0.001). Reproduced with permission from Taylor et al, reference 28.
A trial of the homeopathic medication Lung histamine 5c used prophylactically in children with asthma also reported promising results in reducing the frequency of attacks (44), but the design of study did not allow persuasive evidence (42). An uncontrolled study conducted in Belgium observed the effect of Pollen 30c (prepared from a mixture of 12 grass pollens) combined with Apis mellifica 15c and Lung histamine 15c, in allergic oculorhinitis (17). The regimen was one tablet per day and progress was monitored for 6 months by registering nasal and ocular symptoms as well as by doctor's assessment. From 69 to 86% of patients—according to the parameter evaluated—showed clinical improvements. Further Multicenter Studies
Reilly's group has subsequently organized a multicenter study on patients affected by allergic rhinitis (28). The study involved administration of a 30c potency of the main allergen or (in control group) an indistinguishable placebo. The results demonstrated a significant improvement in nasal air flow in treated patients in comparison with those receiving placebo (P = 0.0001). Subjective symptoms improved but not in a statistically significant manner. It is interesting to note that the group treated with homeopathic preparations of allergen more frequently reported an initial worsening, that is well known in homeopathy. This study offered further proof that high homeopathic dilutions cannot be assimilated to a simple placebo. However, as underlined by the authors themselves, this does not mean that their proposed HIT is an efficacious homeopathic therapy for chronic rhinitis (also because classic homeopathy requires individualized treatment).
Unsuccessful Replications
A study of HIT, with essentially negative results, was published in 2002 by an independent group led by G. Lewith (32). Patients with asthma and positive skin prick tests for house dust mite entered the trial. After a 4 week baseline assessment, participants were randomized to receive oral HIT, made with their specific allergen, or placebo, and then assessed over 16 weeks by means of three visits and diary assessments every other week. There was no difference in most final outcomes between placebo and HIT, but there was a different pattern of change during the trial in diary assessments concerning morning peak expiratory flow, visual analogue scale and mood. In brief, the homeopathic medicine caused a slight but statistically significant worsening during the early phases of treatment than placebo, while at the end of experimental period the effectiveness of HIT was not significantly different from placebo. This study sparked a considerable discussion in the same Journal (45). In a subsequent paper, some of the authors of the past negative trial of HIT have discussed their data of the same trial using complexity theory (46). This is an evidence for a different oscillation in outcome (both physiological and subjective) of verum treatment with respect to placebo (see Fig. 2). The authors suggest that such time dynamics are consistent with a complexity theory interpretation of how the body functions as a whole and speculate that these oscillatory phenomena require a different trial methodology from that currently employed.
Figure 2 Oscillatory effects in a homeopathic clinical trial. Although the study failed to show a clinical improvement at the end of the trial period, there was nevertheless a significant difference between active treatment compared to placebo: the pattern of data indicate that verum, compared to placebo, approximates to an oscillation. PEF, peak of expiratory flow; VAS, visual analogue scale. Reproduced with permission from Hyland and Lewith, reference 46.
A series of double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trials on preventive and therapeutic effectiveness of pollen of Betula (HIT) were conducted by a Norwegian group. In the first study (29), the effect of the homeopathic remedy Betula 30c versus placebo for adult patients with birch pollen allergy was tested. No statistically significant difference between groups was found, except for a brief period when those receiving verum having fewer and less serious symptoms. For some days these differences were statistically significant. Surprisingly, the verum group also reported some aggravation after medication, more than did placebo group, a result in agreement with that of previously mentioned trials (28,32). The second study (30) involved children and gave uncertain results, according to the authors possibly because the pollen count was very low during treatment period and only 3 days were high enough to provoke allergic symptoms. This time the verum-treated patients fared worse than placebo group; they used more rescue medication and had higher symptom scores during these 3 days. The authors suggested that the findings may document a putative ‘aggravation response’, but certainly do not support the usefulness of the tested homeopathic prophylaxis for this condition. The third paper (31) with similar protocol with addition of a crossover of treatments showed a consistent response in both verum and placebo groups, with no consistent clinical advantage of HIT. Other authors communicated, in a letter (34), to have obtained negative findings in an open study in which they assessed the effects of HIT in children with stable asthma. This could be because of the small sample size (n = 12) or because the lack of efficacy of remedy.
New Positive Findings
A recent double-blind trial showed significantly positive effects of HIT of seasonal allergic rhinitis (35). The drug was prepared from common allergens (tree, grass, weed species) specific to Southwest region of US, which was compared with placebo. Study outcomes included allergy-specific symptoms using the rhinoconjunctivitis quality-of- life questionnaires. The subjects reported no adverse effects during the 4 weeks intervention period.
Fixed Prescription of Low-Potencies
The treatment of allergic patients using low potencies (4x or 6x) extract from the plant G. glauca has been investigated for many years by Wiesenauer's group (10,18,47). In a double-blind, randomized study of patients with seasonal allergic rhinitis, Wiesenauer and Gaus (10) used G. glauca 6x without individual homeopathic prescriptions. After 1 month of treatment, an improvement in eye symptoms was observed in 80% of patients in the homeopathic group, in 65% of patients in the placebo group and in 66% of patients in the group receiving the dilution alone, without dynamization. The data were promising but there was not clear cut statistical difference.
Two years later, Wiesenauer and Ludtke (12) published the results of another double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study of the effects of G. glauca in allergic rhinitis. After 1 month of treatment, there were clear improvements in the experimental group in terms of eye symptoms and nasal symptoms. As in the 1985 study, the authors confirmed the efficacy of Galphimia in seasonal allergic rhinitis, and suggested that it should be used only after homeopathic identification of sensitive individuals in order to minimize the number of non- responders. Wiesenauer subsequently continued the experiments and his group has published a number of papers concerning the efficacy of G. glauca, the most effective potency being the 4x (18,48,49).
Complex Formulations
A group of investigators tested the effectiveness of two homeopathic complexes in bronchial asthma. In the first clinical trial the complex Engystol-N (tablets) was studied (19–21). Patients were randomly assigned to verum or placebo groups, under blind conditions. During observation period, those treated with homeopathic complex showed greater improvement of respiratory function. In another paper (26), they described a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study of patients with allergic bronchial asthma already being treated with steroids, bronchodilators and other drugs. One vial of complex Asthma H Inj. Plfugerplex (a mixture of low dilutions of many homeopathic plants and minerals) was administered subcutaneously every week for 9 months. The administration of Triamcinolone decreased in treated group and increased in placebo group. The treated group also showed a significant reduction in contracted infections and in cationic protein levels, a marker of local inflammation. There was no change in spirometric parameters (FEV and FVC), possibly because patients were advised to take the lowest cortisone dose compatible with the absence of cough and resting dyspnea.
Micciché et al. (24) carried out an open study of children with allergic oculorhinitis comparing conventional anti-histaminic and cortisone treatment with a homeopathic protocol based on three drugs (Dolisosbios No. 15, an organotherapeutic, Mn-Cu Oligodrop and Histaminum 4c) initiated after the start of pollen season in order to evaluate their acute phase efficacy. After 2 months of treatment, 30 out of 35 children in homeopathic group were cured, 2 received only a slight benefit and 3 were switched to conventional treatment because of relapses. In conventional treatment group, 21 out of 35 children were cured, 7 showed a slight improvement and 7 had to discontinue treatment because of toxic effects. As in other reports from ‘equivalence’ studies, the effectiveness of homeopathy is clearly demonstrated when it is compared with conventional therapies. However, the validity of results is limited by the fact that this was not a randomized study.
Weiser et al. (27) have reported a study of seasonal allergic rhinitis, using a complex product (Luffa compositum) in nasal spray formulation. The homeopathic remedy consisted of a fixed combination made up of Luffa operculata and G. glauca (in 4x, 12x, 30x potencies), plus histamine and sulfur (in 12x, 30x, 200x potencies). There was a reference group of patients without homeopathic therapy who were treated only with standard intranasal therapy based on chromolyn sodium. The results of the study demonstrate a quick and lasting effect of the treatment, which produced a nearly complete remission of hay fever symptoms. Adverse systemic effects did not occur. Local adverse events appeared in 3 patients among a total of 146. In conclusion, the authors suggested that, for the treatment of hay fever, the homeopathic nasal spray is as efficient and well tolerable as conventional therapy with chromolyn sodium.
Systematic Reviews of Allergy and Asthma
A meta-analysis of seven randomized clinical trials (RCT) to assess the efficacy of homeopathic preparations of G. glauca in treatment of allergic rhinitis was published by Ludtke and Wiesenauer (50). The data are consistently in favor of a statistically significant effect of the low-dose homeopathic medicine over placebo, particularly in relief of eye symptoms. Verum estimate of success is reported of 80%. The validity of these experimental studies was confirmed also by independent meta-analyses (51,52).
The review of Kleijnen et al. (53) and the meta-analysis of Reilly of his own studies (28) suggested that HIT was effective in the treatment of rhinitis. There have been a few reviews of randomized, controlled trials published regarding the use of homeopathy for asthma treatment. Six trials were included in a recent review (54,55). These trials were of variable quality and the results of the studies are conflicting in terms of effects on lung function. The authors underlined that standardized treatments in these trials are unlikely to represent common homeopathic practice where treatment tends to be individualized. More and larger trials are therefore urgently needed to assess properly the role of homeopathy in management of asthma, but experts (51,56,57) suggested that as well as randomized trials, there is a need for observational data to document the different methods of homeopathic prescribing and how patients respond. Further studies could assess whether individuals respond to a ‘package of care’ (i.e. the effects of medication as well as consultation, which is considered a vital part of individualized homeopathic practice) rather than the homeopathic medicine against placebo alone.
Discussion
While complementary medicine and homeopathy are becoming an increasingly prominent part of health care practices, there is paucity of controlled studies concerning their effectiveness. Traditional knowledge has been accumulating for over 200 years, but only in past few decades modern research methods such as RCT, rigorous observational studies and equivalence studies comparing homeopathy with conventional standard therapies have been applied.
Few well-designed studies have been reproduced by independent research teams for two main reasons: lack of sufficient funding and lack of a sufficient number of well-trained homeopaths who are qualified and interested in research. As a matter of fact, the debate on efficacy of homeopathy is still very hot, as shown by a series of reviews (51,52,58,59) and chiefly by the controversial meta-analysis published by the Lancet (60,61) and by the significant expert reactions to the latter (62–64).
Even though the number of papers published in peer-reviewed journals is increasing, the results of many clinical studies on effectiveness of homeopathy are characterized by low standards of methodology (52,53,65). The major problems in most trials were the description of allocation concealment, imprecise outcomes and the reporting of drop- outs and withdrawals. Other concerns are publication bias (tendency to publish more positive than negative trials, a problem that is also present in conventional medicine) and lack of independent replications of most conducted studies.
This review summarizes the trial data for or against homeopathy as a treatment for a series of diseases due to disorders of immune system and/or dysregulation of local inflammatory processes. We are confident that the reported studies represent a large majority of available literature in this field, although some omission cannot be excluded. Clearly, the few dozens of papers reported are highly heterogeneous in terms of disease conditions, drug used and experimental designs.
There was great heterogeneity in the nature of the homeopathic intervention applied: mostly fixed combinations or complexes, several individualized homeopathy with single remedies, some isotherapy studies in allergy. In Table 3 the studies concerning the disorders of immune system considered in this review are grouped according to clinical condition and type of homeopathic treatment; the clinical evidence of the major groups of treatments was classified according to criteria that have been reported in Table 1.
Table 3 Summary of the levels of evidence of clinical homeopathic studies in immunoallergology
The best evidences of effectiveness appearing in the top two rows of Table 3 and are G. glauca (low potencies) in allergic oculorhinitis, classical individualized homeopathy for otitis, Euphorbium compositum for rhinitis–sinusitis, Traumeel in post-chemotherapy stomatitis. The use of homeopathy in those conditions is indirectly supported also by evidence in basic science, animal studies or theory [(89,90) and P. Bellavite, R. Ortolani, F. Pontarollo, G. Pitari, A. Conforti, unpublished data]. In grade C (unclear or conflicting evidence) there are many studies, because positive results reported by some authors were not replicated by others. The classical individualized therapy of allergy and asthma was shown to be effective in a number of studies and not effective only in one trial, but several positive trials were of lower quality and published in non-indexed journals; so, as a caution, we considered the scientific evidence as still unclear according to the criteria of Table 1. The number of homogeneous trials is too small to attempt pooling and meta-analysis. In synthesis, there are many promising studies supporting clinically demonstrable activity of homeopathic medicines in immunoallergology but the database of high-quality homeopathic research in various fields is very small. Most studies here reviewed suggest that homeopathic medicines in high dilutions, prescribed by trained professionals, are safe and are unlikely to provoke severe adverse reactions, in agreement with previous reports (91–93).
Placebo and Effectiveness, Different Questions
Clinical research on homeopathy has been initially focusing on the question of placebo. The first relevant RCT published by top medical journals came out in 1986 with the title ‘Is homeopathy a placebo response?’(11) and 20 years later a meta-analysis published in this field meaningfully had the title ‘Are the clinical effects of homeopathy placebo effects?’ (61) (Fig. 3). This clearly indicates that we still do not have a consensus, but possibly also because the question is not correct, and this is the case for those medicines that contain low dilutions, i.e. ponderal doses, of active principles. The latter medicines by definition cannot be considered as inert placebos, but the distinction was ignored by the famed Lancet's meta-analysis (61) and its related editorial (60).
Figure 3 Titles of Lancet's two publications on homeopathic trials. Reproduced with permission from Lancet 1986;2:881–6 (A) and from Lancet 2005;366:726–32 (B).
On evaluating the evidence in favor and against clinical effectiveness of a therapy, it should be pointed out that the placebo question is exceedingly important but is not equivalent to the question of whether a therapeutic approach is clinically effective. The evidence of specific activity of a drug over placebo is usually achieved in double- blind RCT. Epidemiologists agree that this ‘artificial’ setting may have high internal validity but often fails to reproduce the ‘real life’ application of the method. Patients and physicians need also an answer to the empirical question of whether and how much the homeopathic therapy, considered as a whole system of cure, may help to decrease symptoms, improve quality of life and may substitute other, often more toxic, forms of therapy. More pragmatic studies aimed at ‘improving’ instead of ‘proving’ homeopathy have been suggested (45,51,94). To Blind or Not to Blind
The blinding procedure that is often related to the problem is utilized in clinical research. This procedure has been so widely employed in evidence-based research on conventional drugs that there is the tendency to consider it as the gold standard for any clinical research. However, randomized trials have important limitations in interventions that require particular skills (95) and finding the correct homeopathic simillimum depends on in-depth anamnesis and atmosphere of trust, which is disrupted by randomization (96). In homeopathy, the parameters of evaluation follow specific rules that imply consideration of the totality of a patient's symptoms which includes the disease's symptoms and a continuous follow-up that often requires careful evaluation of response by the clinician, and often change of medicine, particularly in chronic cases. To successfully discriminate between complex responses to a homeopathic treatment it is important to know the characteristics of the substance given to the patient and the healing steps of this modality.
We consider the great importance that is given by classic homeopathy to the interactions such as those between patient–doctor–medicine and environment–body–mind (97,98). It has been suggested that, according to the theory of ‘entanglement’ (99–102), the remedy would act in the context of a tripartite relationship with the patient and the practitioner. What may be the physical basis of such an entanglement is still a matter of speculation, but this point forces us to take into account the ‘context’ of cure (e.g. patient–physician interactions) and therefore to seriously question the double blinding for testing homeopathy: this method by definition would disrupt those interactions (103).
According to these premises, one can assume that in homeopathic cure a complex interaction of these mechanisms occurs: (i) a small physical action of extremely low-dose remedy, (ii) the activation of centers responding to ‘placebo effect’ due to beliefs, expectations of the patient and (iii) the endogenous healing mechanisms (99,100,104–108). If this is the case, the therapeutic effect is due not to the sum of these factors but to their product and any procedure decreasing or shuting down one of them (as blinding undoubtedly does) may markedly affect homeopathic cure, much more than allopathic drug effect. As a consequence of the interference with everyday routine homeopathic practice, more false negative findings are expected in homeopathic double-blind studies than in allopathic ones (109).
Observational Research
Observational research of uncontrolled homeopathic practice documents consistently strong therapeutic effects and sustained satisfaction in patients (59). An observational study showed that over 70% of patients attending a homeopathic hospital out-patient unit recorded positive changes in a wide range of chronic diseases (110). Superimposable to this finding is the report showing that 7 out of 10 patients visiting a Norwegian homeopath reported a meaningful improvement in their main complaint 6 months after the initial consultation (111). Similar or even higher percentages of patients declaring their satisfaction with homeopathic cure were reported by others (112–116). Interestingly, a study was undertaken to investigate the preferences of patients with asthma for various treatment modalities showed that the extent to which the doctor treated the patient as a whole person was also a statistically significant attribute for the choice of homeopathic therapy versus conventional therapy, even if clinical results are perceived as equivalent (8).
So, we are in the situation that if we adopt the strict criteria of evidence-based medicine, which were initially developed for chemical drugs, the analysis of published literature on homeopathy finds little evidence of superiority of homeopathic medicines over placebo. If we accept observational studies and equivalence studies as valuable tools of investigation, we find many proofs of effectiveness of homeopathy. In any case this is valuable information from a pragmatic standpoint because it enables the decision based on other factors like patient's personal preference, adverse effects, availability and costs. The integration of RCT, observational prospective studies and pharmacoeconomic analyses are the future of research in this field.
Conclusions and Prospects
In summary, there is an efficacy/effectiveness paradox (similar to that found in several other areas of complementary medicine research) with a weak evidence in favor of homeopathy when studies are done in randomized and double-blind conditions, but yet there is documented effectiveness in equivalence studies comparing homeopathy and conventional medicine and documented usefulness in general practice (59): the therapy is useful when applied in open practice and produces substantial effects, even in patients with chronic diseases (117,118). This paradox leads to two conclusions: (i) additional clinical research, both experimental and observational, including studies using different designs, is necessary for further research development in homeopathy and (ii) it is conceivable that the discrepancies are due to lack of a consistent theory concerning the action mechanism of homeopathy (59), so that additional basic research and innovative approaches to this problem are urgently warranted.
Nevertheless, the growing public interest in homeopathy (probably due more to a ‘liking’ for this therapeutic system as a whole and the use of small doses rather than to any scientific certainty concerning its effectiveness) allows us to hope that also this section of medicine will also receive greater attention from the competent authorities and the scientific world. Rigorous clinical studies examining effectiveness of homeopathy like other complementary and alternative medicines are needed (119). It will be necessary to adapt research methodologies to the homeopathic field in order to respect the complexity of its diagnostic procedure, but it is equally necessary to ensure that protocols include objective measurements of clinical and laboratory parameters, as well as adequate control groups of untreated subjects or subjects treated with conventional therapies.
Footnotes
For reprints and all correspondence: Paolo Bellavite, University of Verona, 37134 Verona, Italy. Tel: +39-045-8202978; Fax: +39-045-8202978; E-mail: paolo.bellavite@univr.it
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Citizen Jimserac - 11 Jun 2008 16:04 GMT > Immunology and Homeopathy. 4. Clinical Studies—Part 2 > > Oxford Journals Medicine Evidence-based Compl. and Alt. Medicine ...
Thank you! These are very interesting articles and many of us are following them with great interest.
It will be interesting to note that the "gang of 4" were totally unable to respond to a single Homeopathy fact in your earlier thread on the Homeopathy 45 Facts, and have been left in complete consternation and fuming idealogical impotency, as usual.
Please continue to post these most interesting and timely Homeopathy links!
Thanks again. Citizen Jimserac
Peter Moran - 11 Jun 2008 22:52 GMT On Jun 11, 9:24 am, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Immunology and Homeopathy. 4. Clinical Studies—Part 2 > > Oxford Journals Medicine Evidence-based Compl. and Alt. Medicine ...
Thank you! These are very interesting articles and many of us are following them with great interest.
It will be interesting to note that the "gang of 4" were totally unable to respond to a single Homeopathy fact in your earlier thread on the Homeopathy 45 Facts, and have been left in complete consternation and fuming idealogical impotency, as usual.
Please continue to post these most interesting and timely Homeopathy links!
Thanks again. Citizen Jimserac
PM You are aware that this study is saying that homeopathy is a placebo? It is evaluating the controlled trials in exactly the same way as I and others do and finding no evidence of intrinsic efficacy?
And it is Tim Bolen tactic to make a ridiculous request, such as asking us to devote hours or days to refuting 45 assertions of a homeopath whose views we have not the slightest respect for, and then to claim some kind of victory because we will not do it.
PM
Peter Moran - 11 Jun 2008 23:06 GMT On Jun 11, 9:24 am, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Immunology and Homeopathy. 4. Clinical Studies—Part 2 > > Oxford Journals Medicine Evidence-based Compl. and Alt. Medicine ...
Thank you! These are very interesting articles and many of us are following them with great interest.
It will be interesting to note that the "gang of 4" were totally unable to respond to a single Homeopathy fact in your earlier thread on the Homeopathy 45 Facts, and have been left in complete consternation and fuming idealogical impotency, as usual.
Please continue to post these most interesting and timely Homeopathy links!
Thanks again. Citizen Jimserac
PM You are aware that this overview is saying that homeopathy is a placebo? It is evaluating the evidence from the controlled trials of the conditions where homeopaths claim their best results in exactly the same way as I and others did and finding no evidence of intrinsic efficacy for homeopathy?
And it is a Tim Bolen tactic to make a ridiculous request such as you asking us to devote hours or days to refuting 45 different assertions of a homeopath for whose views we have not the slightest respect, knowing we will not be bothered, and then to claim some kind of victory?
PM
Citizen Jimserac - 12 Jun 2008 03:33 GMT > On Jun 11, 9:24 am, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:> Immunology and Homeopathy. 4. Clinical Studies—Part 2 > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > where homeopaths claim their best results in exactly the same way as I and > others did and finding no evidence of intrinsic efficacy for homeopathy? In SOME tests... note the SOME, Homeopathy does no better than placebo. This is normal - in testing standard medicine drugs the same happens often. The difference is that the design of the tests and the fundamental proving methodology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for Homeopathy.
Secondly, mixed results does not and never will mean NO results.
Thirdly, I've asked Mark and now I'll ask you how in the hell the entire country of India can have numerous Homeopathic hospitals, medical colleges and Homeopathic physicians. So YOU are trying to tell us this is all mass delusion, placebo effect, consensual hallucination or the else the greatest mass deception since 1938 Mars attack radio broadcast except on an incredibly wider scale.
Do you see how nonsensical this position is?
That many people could not possibly have fooled themselves and although I'm sure there are Indians who do not like Homeopathy, there are the hospitals and doctors merrily seeing patients and curing people. If this were some kind of trick would not the Indian authorities soon be BESIEGED by complaints??
You've got to admit to yourself that something REAL is going on and next you've got to admit that you cannot dismiss it as placebo based on tests some of which Homeopathy passes anyway that are not even appropriate for it.
Homeopathy deals with individuated remedies and deals with a human being on a far higher plane than mere organ interactions, arteries, veins, muscles and nerves.
What will it take to make you realize that there is more to us than just those things? Or... perhaps you think that is all there is.
Citizen Jimserac
Richard Schultz - 12 Jun 2008 05:53 GMT : In SOME tests... note the SOME, Homeopathy does no better than placebo. : This is normal - in testing standard medicine drugs the same happens often. : The difference is that the design of the tests and the fundamental proving : methodology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for Homeopathy. If the methodology is inappropriate, how can you possibly cite the study as providing *any* evidence, either for or against?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Citizen Jimserac - 12 Jun 2008 10:54 GMT > In article <a13ab200-1517-452d-a40e-055e85b17...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If the methodology is inappropriate, how can you possibly cite the study as > providing *any* evidence, either for or against? Exactly! But my point is that even in tests improperly designed for Homeopathy it sometimes STILL passes STANDARD MEDICAL TESTING procedures though I understand what you are saying, that if this is the case then how can we draw any conclusions at all from them. If that IS the case how can you possibly be so certain it is NOT working. The argument swings either way. We MUST accept an indeterminate state.
We've got the huge 200 year database of many reported "cures" or improvements - this is not definitive I understand but what else have we really got. Peter Moran is convinced that it is ALL explained by placebo - something that is patently absurd in my opinion because, as everyone except the skeptics has noted, babies, dogs, cats and horses have all benefited from Homepathy, demonstrably so and we all know they are not subject to placebo effect.
The attempt therefore to ban Homeopathy is completely premature. It would be like baning the pyloric ulcer researcher from continuing his work, which flew in the face of convention so completely that one of the researchers ended up injecting or ingesting some of the bacteria (I forget which) to then demonstrate his ulcer.
You can't have it both ways. EITHER the tests are appropriate, in which case Homeopathy has DONE WELL to show mixed results OR they are inappropriate, in which case the clinical evidence takes precedence.
EITHER WAY Homeopathy wins.
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 12:09 GMT >> In article <a13ab200-1517-452d-a40e-055e85b17...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The argument swings either way. We MUST accept an indeterminate > state. "Certain" is not at issue, since in a finite Universe it's impossible. "Ludicrously implausible" is fine for practical purposes.
> We've got the huge 200 year database of many reported "cures" or > improvements - this is not definitive I understand but > what else have we really got. And we have thousands of years of reported "cures" from witch doctors, demonologists, faith healers, crystal fetishists, and much more to the point the very same humoral medicine advocates that Hahnemann opposed in his day. Based purely on volume of testimonial evidence, they were right and he was wrong -- but you're not advocating that we return to their balancing of humors by bleeding, purging, etc.
> The attempt therefore to ban Homeopathy is completely premature. We come not to ban Hahnemann but to mock him.
> It would be like baning the pyloric ulcer researcher from continuing > his work, which flew in the face of convention so completely that one > of the researchers ended up injecting or ingesting some of the > bacteria (I forget which) to then demonstrate his ulcer. You're making up history again.
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Richard Schultz - 12 Jun 2008 12:45 GMT :> It would be like baning the pyloric ulcer researcher from continuing :> his work, which flew in the face of convention so completely that one :> of the researchers ended up injecting or ingesting some of the :> bacteria (I forget which) to then demonstrate his ulcer. : : You're making up history again. Actually, he's only partially making up history. Barry Marshall did ingest a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the bacterium and peptic ulcers. He did it because his hypothesis was so poorly received, not because anyone was banning him from continuing his work, however.
But you missed the really important questions -- what was the homeopathic treatment for peptic ulcers before the discovery of Heliobacter pylori? And now that CJ accepts that link, does he recommend an effectively infinite dilution of H. pylori as a cure for peptic ulcers? And how does he explain the empirical observation that treatment with antibiotics that eradicate H. pylori works against peptic ulcers?
Or did you just not ask them because you know as well as I do that they won't be answered?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 13:52 GMT
> Actually, he's only partially making up history. Barry Marshall did ingest > a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the > bacterium and peptic ulcers. He did it because his hypothesis was so > poorly received, not because anyone was banning him from continuing his > work, however. He himself has stated that he was surprised at how quickly his word was accepted. Pretty much as soon as they published it, projects all over the world kicked off to replicate their results. (Do keep in mind that IRBs were involved.) Those projects took time.
I've seen the total timeline and as medical research goes, it was the next thing to instantaneous. If you like I can dig it all up again.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 12 Jun 2008 14:39 GMT :> Actually, he's only partially making up history. ?Barry Marshall did ingest :> a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the :> bacterium and peptic ulcers. ?He did it because his hypothesis was so :> poorly received, not because anyone was banning him from continuing his :> work, however.
: He himself has stated that he was surprised at how quickly : his word was accepted. Pretty much as soon as they published : it, projects all over the world kicked off to replicate their : results. (Do keep in mind that IRBs were involved.) Those : projects took time.
: I've seen the total timeline and as medical research goes, : it was the next thing to instantaneous. If you like I can : dig it all up again. As I recall, he and his collaborator (whose name escapes me at the moment) discovered Heliobacter pylori in 1982 and he did his "swig some bacteria" experiment in 1984 or 1985. The hypothesis was widely accepted by the early 1990's, IIRC.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "French bread makes very good skis"
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 14:59 GMT > :> Actually, he's only partially making up history. ?Barry Marshall did ingest > :> a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > experiment in 1984 or 1985. The hypothesis was widely accepted by the > early 1990's, IIRC. Yup -- which in the context of medical research is Manhattan Project type progress.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Citizen Jimserac - 12 Jun 2008 22:57 GMT > In message <g2r8uk$m2...@news.iucc.ac.il>, Richard Schultz wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Yup -- which in the context of medical research is > Manhattan Project type progress. Yes it is and this again illustrates how denialism and blind hysterical criticism of new ideas slow research even within standard medicine's own domain.
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 13 Jun 2008 03:01 GMT >> In message <g2r8uk$m2...@news.iucc.ac.il>, Richard Schultz wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > how denialism and blind hysterical criticism of > new ideas slow research even within standard medicine's own domain. So you're in favor of adopting new medical treatments without testing them first?
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Citizen Jimserac - 13 Jun 2008 03:46 GMT > In message <c98932b8-f3de-4418-a661-df1b2fb69...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > So you're in favor of adopting new medical treatments > without testing them first? I'm in favor of NOT prematurely blocking or condemning research before it has had a chance to make its discoveries!!
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 13 Jun 2008 04:41 GMT >> In message <c98932b8-f3de-4418-a661-df1b2fb69...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: >> >> In message <g2r8uk$m2...@news.iucc.ac.il>, Richard Schultz wrote: >> >> > In article <qoi7i5-l6n....@news.lumbercartel.com>, D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote: >> >> > : In message <g2r28u$hr...@news.iucc.ac.il>, Richard Schultz wrote:
>> >> > :> Actually, he's only partially making up history. ?Barry Marshall did ingest >> >> > :> a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > or condemning research > before it has had a chance to make its discoveries!! What does that have to do with Warren and Marshall?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 13 Jun 2008 09:08 GMT : I'm in favor of NOT prematurely blocking or condemning research : before it has had a chance to make its discoveries!! What precisely does that have to do with the discovery that peptic ulcers are caused by Heliobacter pylori?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Citizen Jimserac - 13 Jun 2008 04:08 GMT > In article <unc7i5-7ti....@news.lumbercartel.com>, D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > poorly received, not because anyone was banning him from continuing his > work, however. Thank you Doc Rich! You forgot to mention that "poorly received" often means cutting off funding for the research.
> But you missed the really important questions -- what was the homeopathic > treatment for peptic ulcers before the discovery of Heliobacter pylori? > And now that CJ accepts that link, does he recommend an effectively > infinite dilution of H. pylori as a cure for peptic ulcers? And how does > he explain the empirical observation that treatment with antibiotics > that eradicate H. pylori works against peptic ulcers? Doc Rich scores some points!!. I don't know how they would have been treated Homeopathy.
> Or did you just not ask them because you know as well as I do that > they won't be answered? Try to endure it, its an endemic problem around here.
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 13 Jun 2008 04:42 GMT >> In article <unc7i5-7ti....@news.lumbercartel.com>, D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > often means cutting off funding for the > research. What funding did Warren and Marshall lose?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 13 Jun 2008 09:10 GMT :> Actually, he's only partially making up history. Barry Marshall did ingest :> a culture of H. pylori in order to demonstrate the link between the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : You forgot to mention that "poorly received" often means cutting off : funding for the research. I have never seen any report that Marshall's funding was cut off at any point.
:> But you missed the really important questions -- what was the homeopathic :> treatment for peptic ulcers before the discovery of Heliobacter pylori? :> And now that CJ accepts that link, does he recommend an effectively :> infinite dilution of H. pylori as a cure for peptic ulcers? And how does :> he explain the empirical observation that treatment with antibiotics :> that eradicate H. pylori works against peptic ulcers?
: Doc Rich scores some points!!. : I don't know how they would have been treated Homeopathy. How do you reconcile the homeopathic theory of disease with your apparent acceptance of the conclusion that peptic ulcers are caused by H. pylori?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "It is terrible to die of thirst in the ocean. Do you have to salt your truth so heavily that it does not even quench thirst any more?"
Citizen Jimserac - 13 Jun 2008 14:32 GMT > In article <b9741443-d994-405c-8cb5-5c236bd15...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > How do you reconcile the homeopathic theory of disease with your apparent > acceptance of the conclusion that peptic ulcers are caused by H. pylori? Ah! easy one. Are there people that have H. pylori bacteria but do NOT get the ulcers?
Come on now Doc Rich, you have to give a yes or no answer.
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 13 Jun 2008 15:19 GMT >> In article <b9741443-d994-405c-8cb5-5c236bd15...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Ah! easy one. Are there people that > have H. pylori bacteria but do NOT get the ulcers? I see you're trying to avoid the question.
Since you asked, though: Lots of them. H. Pylori in fact appears to have a beneficial role in preventing some conditions such as asthma and GRD and perhaps multiple sclerosis.
Sorry, the world doesn't come in black and white.
> Come on now Doc Rich, you have to give a yes > or no answer. As distinct from avoiding a question altogether as you do?
Since you're asking for "yes or no," should the world have immediately embraced the H. Pylori explanation for peptic ulcers as soon as it was announced, or should Marshall and Warren have been rejected outright as being incompatible with homeopathy?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Citizen Jimserac - 13 Jun 2008 16:38 GMT > In message <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Marshall and Warren have been rejected outright as being > incompatible with homeopathy? Ok, then good. You say that:
>H. Pylori in fact appears to have a >beneficial role in preventing some conditions such >as asthma and GRD and perhaps multiple sclerosis. Now the question arises, why do some people get the ulcers and other do not when the bacteria is present?
YOU DO see my point, don't you - that is exactly what Homeopathy says, that the totality of the human system must be taken into account. I believe the Homeopathists would say (real Homeopathy experts please comment if I've mucked this up) that there is NO problem at all to reconcile the acceptance of the Homeopathic theory of disease and my aggreement that H. pylorii are a causative factor of pyloric ulcers.
But, I suspect there are OTHER causative factors, related to the totality of the human system, the "life force" if you will and it is THERE that the disease is made or broken.
The disease or illness is but a manifestation of a deeper problem at a higher level. To SUPPRESS the symptoms, as modern medicine does, allows the disease to re-manifest itself, in a different form elsewhere and/or at a later time.
And THAT explains why a lucky few have spontaneous "remissions" from fatal cancers, and most do not, because their life force was "strong enough" in the first place, to handle it.
And THAT explains why people who have had cancer surgery and are thought to be cancer free often get it again... because cutting out the cancer or poisoning it is acting on the symptoms and not on the inner higher plane disturbance in the life force which is where the real problem is.
So the H. pylorii are indeed a causative factor for the ulcers, I agree with that, but the full cause of the ulcer explanation contains the H. pylorii as a subset just as relativistic mechanics contains Newtonian as a subset.
And THAT, to answer your query, is how I reconcile them.
See??
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 16 Jun 2008 05:11 GMT >> In message <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > get the ulcers and other do not > when the bacteria is present? Lots of reasons. Different strains of bacteria, for instance: H. Pylori was a leading subject for detection of mutations related to pathogenicity. Stomach pH for another, plus all sorts of variables affecting the reaction of the stomach lining to toxic attack. Even the old standby catecholamine levels have an influence. Beyond that, there are doubtless many other factors at work. Humans aren't clockwork.
> YOU DO see my point, don't you - > that is exactly what Homeopathy says, > that the totality of the human system > must be taken into account. Where did Hahnemann say that? His method involves enumerating a near-infinite list of *symptoms*, which over the course of weeks can include nearly anything. For instance, if a "prover" experienced an erection in the weeks following trial of a substance, that might be recorded as a "symptom" of the substance. No doubt that would prove valuable in treating priapism (and never mind the spinal trauma.)
> I believe the Homeopathists would > say (real Homeopathy experts please [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that H. pylorii are a causative factor > of pyloric ulcers. Oh, I'll grant that. The nice thing about "evil spirits" is that you can explain *anything* with them (giving them names like "psora" and "miasm" doesn't really change that.) Absolutely anything. In fact, it's impossible, even in principle, to come up with a way to prove a witch doctor wrong.
As long as they don't try to make testable predictions, that is. I notice that homeopathy manages to make no such predictions, and in fact you have gone to considerable pains to ridicule the very notion.
> But, I suspect there are OTHER > causative factors, related > to the totality of the human > system, the "life force" if you will > and it is THERE that the disease > is made or broken. Sure, "good spirits." What-EVER!
> The disease or illness is but a > manifestation of a deeper problem [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > itself, in a different form > elsewhere and/or at a later time. As distinct from giving the patient something that is entirely related to the symptoms without regard to any underlying cause -- because, as Hahnemann taught, it is futile to seek the cause of disease. Add up the symptoms, counter them, and you're done.
> And THAT explains why a lucky > few have spontaneous "remissions" > from fatal cancers, and most do > not, because their life force was > "strong enough" in the first > place, to handle it. Or maybe it was their stars. You can explain *anything* with astrology, you know.
> And THAT explains why people > who have had cancer surgery [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > disturbance in the life force > which is where the real problem is. Are you sure it wasn't the merit that they acquired in their prior lives? How do you propose to tell the difference?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Citizen Jimserac - 16 Jun 2008 12:06 GMT > In message <858bc18d-a15e-448f-a880-467f52907...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: > [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] > | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | > +-------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ I see several rather desperate posts from you which shows that you are out of serious ideas.
Too bad.
Citizen Jimserac
D. C. Sessions - 16 Jun 2008 14:10 GMT >> In message <858bc18d-a15e-448f-a880-467f52907...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: >> >> In message <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: >> >> >> In article <b9741443-d994-405c-8cb5-5c236bd15...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > YOU DO see my point, don't you - >> > that is exactly what Homeopathy says, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> substance. No doubt that would prove valuable in treating >> priapism (and never mind the spinal trauma.) No response. Point made.
>> > I believe the Homeopathists would >> > say (real Homeopathy experts please [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> and in fact you have gone to considerable pains to ridicule the >> very notion. No response. Point made.
>> > But, I suspect there are OTHER >> > causative factors, related [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Sure, "good spirits." What-EVER! No response -- point made.
>> > The disease or illness is but a >> > manifestation of a deeper problem [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> it is futile to seek the cause of disease. Add up >> the symptoms, counter them, and you're done. No response. Point made.
>> > And THAT explains why a lucky >> > few have spontaneous "remissions" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Or maybe it was their stars. You can explain *anything* >> with astrology, you know. No response. Point made.
>> > And THAT explains why people >> > who have had cancer surgery [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I see several rather desperate posts from you which shows > that you are out of serious ideas. Each in response to one of yours. It seems that, from the above, one of us is out of responses. By all means "declare victory and go home."
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 15 Jun 2008 05:44 GMT :> How do you reconcile the homeopathic theory of disease with your apparent :> acceptance of the conclusion that peptic ulcers are caused by H. pylori? : : Ah! easy one. Are there people that have H. pylori bacteria but do NOT : get the ulcers? What has that got to do with the question that I asked?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Citizen Jimserac - 15 Jun 2008 12:47 GMT > In article <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What has that got to do with the question that I asked? Well!!! I'm so glad you asked. You see Homeopathy theory of disease and illness are fundamentally involved in your question because they explain why some people DO get the ulcers and others DO NOT get the ulcers.
This is all in the "Organon" by Hahnemann. Have you read it?
Citizen Jimserac
Richard Schultz - 15 Jun 2008 13:51 GMT :> In article <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
:> :> How do you reconcile the homeopathic theory of disease with your apparent :> :> acceptance of the conclusion that peptic ulcers are caused by H. pylori?
:> : Ah! easy one. ?Are there people that have H. pylori bacteria but do NOT :> : get the ulcers?
:> What has that got to do with the question that I asked?
: Well!!! I'm so glad you asked. You see Homeopathy theory of disease : and illness are fundamentally involved in your question because they : explain why some people DO get the ulcers and others DO NOT get the ulcers. What has that got to do with the question that I asked?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
D. C. Sessions - 15 Jun 2008 16:40 GMT > :> In article <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What has that got to do with the question that I asked? It avoids answering?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
D. C. Sessions - 15 Jun 2008 14:06 GMT >> In article <5e82ed27-8ce0-4a9e-86f4-e35186805...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> :> How do you reconcile the homeopathic theory of disease with your apparent >> :> acceptance of the conclusion that peptic ulcers are caused by H. pylori? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > explain > why some people DO get the ulcers and others DO NOT get the ulcers. Marvelous! How is it at predicting which ones will get them and which won't?
Oh -- that's right, it doesn't. Homeopathy doesn't do prevention because it doesn't do "cause." Like Cee's "theory of all health and disease" it provides handwaving /post/ /hoc/ explanations once disease happens which amount to little more than "evil spirits." In the case of homeopathy, the "evil spirits" are called "miasma" and "psora."
However, both Hahnemann and Cee were careful to avoid making any testable predictions. These marvelous "theory of all diseases" are, in the end, nothing more than religion: both "explain everything" by what amounts to /deus/ /ex/ /machina/.
> This is all in the "Organon" by Hahnemann. Have you read it? Haven't you noticed that several of us, including Dr. Schultz, have been citing it?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Citizen Jimserac - 15 Jun 2008 15:31 GMT > In message <ec5f8b34-cc2e-4457-9aaa-523e2ec9e...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimseracwrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Haven't you noticed that several of us, including Dr. > Schultz, have been citing it? Good! Then you are in opposition to modern medicine's focus on suppression of symtoms, eradication by chemical poisonings, radiations, or outright surgical removal. As you must already know, Homeopathy does not regard these "curative" (sic) methods as successful in treating the root disease. All these things do is treat the manifestations of the disease. Thanks to modern medicine these techniques can and do save lives but almost inevitably, the cancer or its root cause goes deeper, remains hidden only to re-emerge months or years later.
Take childhood Asthma. It is often preceeded by a skin problem, rash or eczema. Then comes the Asthma. Standard medicine treats these as two separate things. Homeopathy treats them as two manifestations of the SAME thing.
Interesting view is it not?
A word to the wise about reading Hahnemann -> as one would expect with ANY two hundred year old book, the terms and conceptions he uses are in the language and conceptions of two centuries ago. I am told that the O'Reilly translation is quite modern and will give that a go when time permits.
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