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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / June 2008Re: HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST - 45 FACTS
"Peter Moran" <pmoran@internode.on.net> wrote in message news:... > A randomized controlled trial of homeopathy in rheumatoid arthritis. > Fisher P, Scott DL. > > Royal London Homoeopathic Hospital, Great Ormond Street, London, UK. > > OBJECTIVE: To test the hypothesis that homeopathy is effective in reducing > the symptoms of joint inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis (RA). METHOD: > This was a 6-month randomized, cross-over, double-blind, > placebo-controlled, single-centre study set in a teaching hospital > rheumatology out-patient clinic. The participants of the study were 112 > patients who had definite or classical RA, were seropositive for > rheumatoid factor and were receiving either stable doses of single > non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) for > or =3 months or > single disease-modifying anti-rheumatic drugs (DMARDs) with or without > NSAIDs for > or =6 months. Patients who were severely disabled, had taken > systemic steroids in the previous 6 months or had withdrawn from DMARD > therapy in the previous 12 months were excluded. Two series of medicines > were used. One comprised 42 homeopathic medicines used for treating RA in > 6cH (10(-12)) and/or 30cH (10(-30)) dilutions (a total of 59 preparations) > manufactured to French National Pharmacopoeia standards, the other > comprised identical matching placebos. The main outcome measures were > visual analogue scale pain scores, Ritchie articular index, duration of > morning stiffness and erythrocyte sedimentation rate (ESR). RESULTS: > Fifty-eight patients completed the trial. Over 6 months there were > significant decreases (P<0.01 by Wilcoxon rank sum tests) in their mean > pain scores (fell 18%), articular indices (fell 24%) and ESRs (fell 11%). > Fifty-four patients withdrew before completing the trial. Thirty-one > changed conventional medication, 10 had serious intercurrent illness or > surgery, 12 failed to attend and three withdrew consent. Placebo and > active homeopathy had different effects on pain scores; mean pain scores > were significantly lower after 3 months' placebo therapy than 3 months' > active therapy (P=0.032 by Wilcoxon rank sum test). Articular index, ESR > and morning stiffness were similar with active and placebo homeopathy. > CONCLUSIONS: We found no evidence that active homeopathy improves the > symptoms of RA, over 3 months, in patients attending a routine clinic who > are stabilized on NSAIDs or DMARDs. > > PM You might note that over six months All measures of rheumatoid activity decreased in both groups, even objective measures like ESR, even though no active treatments were being used. This shows how easily practitioners can be misled as to the usefulness of what they do. The reason for it is that patients seek new medical attentions, and also wind up being enrolled in controled trials, when they are going through a bad patch with symptoms. So inevitably many will be better at any later end-point. With wildly fluctuating conditions like asthma or allergy you would expect nearly all most patients to be better at at least some later end points, which is why all alternative practitioners think they are so good at treating them. PM >> Don't be like Richard Schultz and persist in this anti-intellectual >> DENIALISM in the face of Homeopathy efficacy, just as he attempted >> only to be refuted by link after link about Acupuncture success >> and efficacy by One True Zhen. >> >> The item at issue in Homeopathy is its mechanism of action. >> We are CLOSE to knowing that with major research underway >> in water structure, energy distributions in water, quantum >> mechanics and the exciting possibility of macro-entanglement. >> >> But the science that explains Homeopathy will be science from >> THIS century and will overturn or refine the models >> and understandings which you or I, educated in the LAST century, >> have. That is the key and to deny this is deny progress >> and to maintain the absurd idea that we know all there is >> about water, QM and many other things. We don't. >> >> Citizen Jimserac Thank you, I have reviewed your comments but do NOT see ANYWHERE where you have addressed the 45 facts presented by the original poster. Perhaps you still have not seen them, here they are AGAIN for your perusal: Sue Young Homeopathy The website of a London based homeopath HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST – 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th – 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates ‘The Father of Medicine’ of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body’s own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body’s own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE – whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro’s number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were “patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it”. FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only ‘a couple’ of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people’s homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled ‘The End of Homeopathy’. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. “The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of ‘higher quality’ and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were ‘larger, higher quality’. The final analysis which concluded that ‘the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects’ was based on just the eight ‘larger, higher quality’ clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet’s press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials.” http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke’s or Debrett’s. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Thanks for reading the FACTS and understanding that Homeopathy is here to stay, develop and EXPAND. Any comments you have on the 45 Homeopathy FACTS are always welcome. Happy reading! Citizen Jimserac On Jun 10, 6:59 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: Thank you, I have reviewed your comments but do NOT see ANYWHERE where you have addressed the 45 facts presented by the original poster. PM I can sum them up in one phrase: the fantasies and self-justifications and unsupported asertions of persons who do not understand how they can be misled by placebo influences and the many other factors I and other doctors have tried to patiently explain. The only valid, reproducible observation they have is that people sometimes seem to get better with their ministrations, but we have other adequate explanations for those observations. WHy can you not see the common thread that runs through all these fantasy-based medical theories: homeopathy, chiropractic, naturopathy, therapeutic touch, detox, foot baths, ear candling, gallstone and liver flushes, to quote just a few . They all make people feel better and they all contradict well-trodden paths of science. Which is more likely to be true -- that scientists are such ignorant fools as to be wrong about every one of these, or that the benefits of all can be explained by common, well-known phenomena, such as the power of suggestion, confirmation biases etc ? Think, man, think!!! PM > On Jun 10, 6:59 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > PM What you don't seem to realise Peter, is that the current conventional medical system isn't very robust. It is like a bucket leaking at the seams and any person who undertakes conventional therapy finds themselves on a slippery downhill slope. There are drugs for this and that, and there are drugs to counter the side effects. I haven't taken any pharmaceutical drugs for over 30 years and everything I get wrong with me I fix with a combination of cellsalts. Conventional medicine has absolutely no idea about the real cause of disease and is all about making money. Anybody who uses it for any length of time, deserves what they get. Carole www.cellsalts.net > > On Jun 10, 6:59 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Carolewww.cellsalts.net Well said Carole. And this systemic failure of conventional medicine is not just an isolated thing in one country. It is occurring even in countries with organized government controlled health care systems as well as in countries like the U.S. where a parasitic group of exploitative "health insurance" (sic) "providers", with the assistance of political and lobbyist connections, have managed to push medical costs even higher than would be expected of a failed system allowed to have its own way for far too long and dominatied by rapacious pharmaceutical companies. Citizen Jimserac > Well said Carole. And this systemic failure > of conventional medicine is not just an isolated [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Citizen Jimserac Well said Tim. People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind controlled into the establishment methodologies, they have totally lost the ability to think for themselves. Yes, PM does come up with something that looks like rational analysis, however, it is linear thinking and he completely overlooks any responses that would disprove his theories. I don't know if he's being paid to follow a line, or he is just mind controlled from his education but he's definitely lost the ability for independent thought. Carole www.cellsalts.net : Well said Tim. : People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind : controlled into the establishment methodologies, they have totally lost the : ability to think for themselves. Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking for himself? Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our Earth?" "Because of Death! Because all you of Earth are idiots!" > In article <jdP3k.9806$IK1.2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Carole <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking > for himself? That is the easy cop-out way of dismissing ideas that homeowackos cannot understand. > Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think > for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? He has diluted his thinking 100X. On Jun 11, 8:32 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote: > In article <jdP3k.9806$IK1.2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Carole > <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking > for himself? That is the easy cop-out way of dismissing ideas that homeowackos cannot understand. ZZzz. Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 2,090 for Mark Probert cannot understand > Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think > for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? He has diluted his thinking 100X. Didn't read Torah again today. > Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking > for himself? Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! And... while we're here, look at what I've got - this actually is the SUBJECT of this post, something that not all posters are able to abide by. HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST – 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th – 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates ‘The Father of Medicine’ of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body’s own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body’s own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE – whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro’s number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were “patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it”. FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only ‘a couple’ of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people’s homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled ‘The End of Homeopathy’. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. “The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of ‘higher quality’ and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were ‘larger, higher quality’. The final analysis which concluded that ‘the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects’ was based on just the eight ‘larger, higher quality’ clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet’s press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials.” http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke’s or Debrett’s. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Citizen Jimserac :> Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking :> for himself? : Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! I would be most interested in your providing evidence for your claim that I believe that anyone who disagrees with me is not thinking for himself. *Some* of the people who disagree with me have yet to show any evidence that they are thinking, period. You are one of them. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." > In article <0a24b46e-bb64-4821-bd53-eb0de3f02...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I would be most interested in your providing evidence for your claim that Now that is the stuff of wonderment. In another thread you called me an idiot but now here you are "most interested" in my providing evidence. OK, I will respond to you if you post the following: "OK, I Doc Rich, was wrong, Citizen Jimserac is not an idiot, he is a genius and I am most interested in his responses. After all I respond to many of his posts so his writings are of great interest. Devoted fan Doc Rich." Now you just post that (WITHOUT THE QUOTES!!) then I promise to respond! Citizen Jimserac :> In article <0a24b46e-bb64-4821-bd53-eb0de3f02...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: :> :> Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking :> :> for himself? :> : Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! :> I would be most interested in your providing evidence for your claim that : Now that is the stuff of wonderment. In another : thread you called me an idiot but now here you : are "most interested" in my providing evidence. You made a claim -- it's up to you to prove it. : Now you just post that (WITHOUT THE QUOTES!!) then I promise to respond! You are apparently under the quite mistaken impression that I care whether you respond or not. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "These are just simple farmers. People of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know -- morons." HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST – 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th – 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates ‘The Father of Medicine’ of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body’s own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body’s own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE – whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro’s number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were “patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it”. FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only ‘a couple’ of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people’s homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled ‘The End of Homeopathy’. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. “The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of ‘higher quality’ and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were ‘larger, higher quality’. The final analysis which concluded that ‘the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects’ was based on just the eight ‘larger, higher quality’ clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet’s press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials.” http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke’s or Debrett’s. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Citizen Jimserac >: Well said Tim. >: People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking >for himself? Because Carole knows that any thinking person would have to agree with her about everything -- because she couldn't ever possibly be mistaken. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan :>: People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind :>: controlled into the establishment methodologies, they have totally lost the :>: ability to think for themselves. :>Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking :>for himself? : Because Carole knows that any thinking person would have to agree with : her about everything -- because she couldn't ever possibly be mistaken. I would recommend to Carole the short story "Reason" by Isaac Asimov, but, unfortunately, I seriously doubt that she would ever understand how the lesson of that story applies to her. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience" > In article <LMWdnUoULIAiLM3VnZ2dnUVZ_jWdn...@comcast.com>, David Wright <wri...@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote: > : In article <g2ogk6$8r...@news.iucc.ac.il>, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > unfortunately, I seriously doubt that she would ever understand how the > lesson of that story applies to her. Hey Isaac Asimov! There's a blast from the past, great writer. Citizen Jimserac :> I would recommend to Carole the short story "Reason" by Isaac Asimov, but, :> unfortunately, I seriously doubt that she would ever understand how the :> lesson of that story applies to her. : Hey Isaac Asimov! There's a blast from the past, great writer. I'd recommend that *you* read the short story "Reason" as well, but, unfortunately, I seriously doubt that you would ever understand how the lesson of that story applies to you. But speaking of great writers of the past -- have you succeeded in identifying any .sig quotes from me that were taken from _Alice in Wonderland_? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be, and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." > :>: People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind > :>: controlled into the establishment methodologies, they have totally [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > unfortunately, I seriously doubt that she would ever understand how the > lesson of that story applies to her. I recommend to you Richard that you read up on critical thinking plus rationality. People can analyse and discourse on a topic but until they take all the facts into account, they only get half the picture. You and your conventional mob have been trained entirely in the germ theory of disease ... you know nothing of the soil theory, of improving the terrain or the internal milieu. You think you have it all worked out, however the real cures are when you improve the terrain rather than treating ad hoc each disease as it appears. Why have you never tried the silica treatment for underarm odour? Are you afraid of what it might show? Carole www.cellsalts.net www.soiltheory.com : I recommend to you Richard that you read up on critical thinking plus : rationality. Why is it that the people who are least capable of doing anything that looks remotely like "critical thinking" are the ones who are constantly the ones preaching about it? : People can analyse and discourse on a topic but until they take all the : facts into account, they only get half the picture. At what point to you plant to take the *fact* that in the body, many elements (e.g. Fe, S) are found in reduced form while "cellsalts" provide them in oxidized form because the "theory" was invented from the analysis of ash? : Why have you never tried the silica treatment for underarm odour? Because I've found that daily bathing is sufficient. : Are you afraid of what it might show? Why have you never performed the calculation that I outlined for you? Are you afraid of what it might show, or are you just incapable? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad." >> :>: People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind >> :>: controlled into the establishment methodologies, they have totally [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I recommend to you Richard that you read up on critical thinking plus > rationality. which has nothing to do with your craziness you admit you don't have a clue about chemisty..yet you blather on about "cell salts"....without knowing anything about chemistry... you have not a a clue > People can analyse and discourse on a topic but until they take all the > facts into account, they only get half the picture. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > www.cellsalts.net > www.soiltheory.com <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> Nothing but insults snipped. > In article <LMWdnUoULIAiLM3VnZ2dnUVZ_jWdn...@comcast.com>, David Wright <wri...@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote: > : In article <g2ogk6$8r...@news.iucc.ac.il>, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > unfortunately, I seriously doubt that she would ever understand how the > lesson of that story applies to her. Excellent suggestion and correct conclusion. One of the interesting things about some science fiction, especially by writers such as Asimov, Heinlein, et al, is that their science is usually internally logical. > > In article <LMWdnUoULIAiLM3VnZ2dnUVZ_jWdn...@comcast.com>, David Wright <wri...@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote: > > : In article <g2ogk6$8r...@news.iucc.ac.il>, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > by writers such as Asimov, Heinlein, et al, is that their science is > usually internally logical. Now Mark, don't frighten me like that cuz I happen to like Asimov and Heinlein. So there are books we both like?? I need to see a Homeopath or something, this can't be right. (checks pulse and feels forehead... maybe its some kind of subspace virus that you get just by talking with him... hmmm) Citizen Jimserac >>: Well said Tim. >>: People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Because Carole knows that any thinking person would have to agree with > her about everything -- because she couldn't ever possibly be mistaken. Hey Dave, do the experiment to eliminate athletes foot for yourself and see how effective it is. 1/4 tspn each of cream of tartar and bicarb plus some calcium tablets -- several times according to severity. Then explain how it works and why modern medicine is entirely obsessed with killing the bugs rather than improving the terrain of the body. Carole www.cellsalts.net > : Well said Tim. > : People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Why do you assume that anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking > for himself? Its obvious conventional people are a product of their schooling. Doctors get about 3 hours schooling in nutrition during a whole 6 year course and the germ theory is the only option. > Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think > for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? What calculation? Carole www.cellsalts.net www.soiltheory.com > > In article <jdP3k.9806$IK1.2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Carole > > <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Doctors get about 3 hours schooling in nutrition during a whole 6 year > course and the germ theory is the only option. Old yarn. Not any more. > > Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think > > for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? > > What calculation? How sad. You did not even have the ability to recognize that. >> : Well said Tim. >> : People like PM just don't get it. They are so dumbed down and mind [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Doctors get about 3 hours schooling in nutrition during a whole 6 year > course and the germ theory is the only option. just curious...what is your education?? not to mention that nutrition is actually taught in EVERY medical school class...specific to the system and malady >> Or to put it another way -- why don't you show some ability to think >> for yourself and do the calculation that I outlined to you? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.cellsalts.net > www.soiltheory.com > "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote in message Put a sock in it Doc! http://laughingmysocksoff.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/put-a-sock-in-it/ Also, see FACTS 30,31,32,33,34 below. You might want to start a separate thread about your curiously misinformed placebo theories, this thread is about HOMEOPATH FACTS which brings us to... HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST – 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th – 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates ‘The Father of Medicine’ of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body’s own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body’s own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE – whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro’s number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were “patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it”. FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only ‘a couple’ of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people’s homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled ‘The End of Homeopathy’. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. “The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of ‘higher quality’ and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were ‘larger, higher quality’. The final analysis which concluded that ‘the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects’ was based on just the eight ‘larger, higher quality’ clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet’s press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials.” http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke’s or Debrett’s. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Citizen Jimserac : You might want to start a separate thread about your : curiously misinformed placebo theories, this thread : is about HOMEOPATH FACTS which brings us to... Funny how you repeatedly fail to explain why his explanations are "curiously misinformed" and never make even a token attempt to inform him. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- ". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter." -- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_ > In article > <93a944ce-ba93-42b3-b603-7aaddf25bd12@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > "curiously misinformed" and never make even a token attempt to > inform him. Probably because PM's arguments are so riddled with jargon, which goes to expose the depths of his entanglement in orthodox medicine. He spends all his time learning jargon and technical terms, nobody knows what the heck he's talking about to give him a response. Simple. And when I give him a response in plain English, he has no respect for it because he thinks that only people who speak jargon are worth listening to. Carole www.cellsalts.net > ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter." > -- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_ :> In article :> <93a944ce-ba93-42b3-b603-7aaddf25bd12@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, :> : You might want to start a separate thread about your :> : curiously misinformed placebo theories, this thread :> : is about HOMEOPATH FACTS which brings us to... :> Funny how you repeatedly fail to explain why his explanations are :> "curiously misinformed" and never make even a token attempt to :> inform him. : Probably because PM's arguments are so riddled with jargon, which goes to : expose the depths of his entanglement in orthodox medicine. He spends all : his time learning jargon and technical terms, nobody knows what the heck : he's talking about to give him a response. Dr. Moran's arguments are (at least when he remembers to format his posts so that they are readable) among the most clearly explained of those to be found in this newsgroup. You should not blame *your* ignorance on him. And ignorance is the only word for it -- if you knew even the most basic facts of chemistry, you would know that your pet theory (which AFAICT you are incapable of explaining with resorting to jargon) is complete nonsense. : And when I give him a response in plain English, he has no respect for it : because he thinks that only people who speak jargon are worth listening to. I cannot speak for Dr. Moran, but from what I can tell, any lack of respect he has for your posts is due to their failure to contain anything that might be mistaken for awareness of how the world actually works or an ability to think logically. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." ... same old off topic stuff, deleted of course... ho hum... HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST – 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th – 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates ‘The Father of Medicine’ of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body’s own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body’s own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE – whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro’s number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were “patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it”. FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only ‘a couple’ of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people’s homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled ‘The End of Homeopathy’. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. “The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of ‘higher quality’ and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were ‘larger, higher quality’. The final analysis which concluded that ‘the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects’ was based on just the eight ‘larger, higher quality’ clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet’s press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials.” http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke’s or Debrett’s. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Citizen Jimserac > Dr. Moran's arguments are (at least when he remembers to format his > posts so that they are readable) among the most clearly explained of > those to be found in this newsgroup. You should not blame *your* > ignorance on him. Yes, I will agree with you that Peter Moran's explanations are very clear and logical. Unfortunately he misses out on critical thinking and a certain level of rationality. > And ignorance is the only word for it -- if you knew > even the most basic facts of chemistry, you would know that your pet > theory (which AFAICT you are incapable of explaining with resorting > to jargon) is complete nonsense. Yes, it is true that I don't understand even the basics of chemistry. However, as a layperson I have discovered for myself, the superiority of the soil theory over the germ theory. While modern medicine concentrates on killing the germs, the soil theory concentrates on improving the body. I can get rid of athletes foot (fungus) very easily by taking the right combination of cellsalts (orally). By improving the internal milieu the fungus, parasites and disease is eliminated. > : And when I give him a response in plain English, he has no respect for > it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that might be mistaken for awareness of how the world actually works > or an ability to think logically. He lacks an overall grasp of the big picture and is caught up with his methodologies which are all indoctrinated into him through his schooling. He lacks the ability to think outside the system he has been taught. I have over 30 years experience with cellsalts and treated many conditions that modern medicine either says are incurable (allergies and asthma) or prescribe pharmaceutical products for. Carole www.cellsalts.net > > In article <5gP3k.9808$IK1.7...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Carole > > <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Unfortunately he misses out on critical thinking and a certain level of > rationality. That is an oxymoronx2. One cannot be clear and *logical* and lack critical thinking and rationality. And, anyway, since you have no ability to think critically, and no connection with rationality, how would you know? > > And ignorance is the only word for it -- if you knew > > even the most basic facts of chemistry, you would know that your pet > > theory (which AFAICT you are incapable of explaining with resorting > > to jargon) is complete nonsense. > > Yes, it is true that I don't understand even the basics of chemistry. Then how can you say what you said about Dr. Moran. You admit that you did not understand what he said. > However, as a layperson I have discovered for myself, the superiority of the > soil theory over the germ theory. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > By improving the internal milieu the fungus, parasites and disease is > eliminated. Gibberish. > > : And when I give him a response in plain English, he has no respect for > > it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > that modern medicine either says are incurable (allergies and asthma) or > prescribe pharmaceutical products for. No, I did not just call your a blathering idiot. > That is an oxymoronx2. One cannot be clear and *logical* and lack > critical thinking and rationality. I beg to differ. Logic is a tool, but like any tool it must be used to make a difference. The essense of rationality and critical thinking is the *use* of the intellectual tools available in pursuit of sound thought. I've known people who were actually quite good at sound thinking without use of logic; it was a bit of a handicap but they still managed because they were dedicated to the pursuit of reason over rationalization. "Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal." -- Robert A. Heinlein | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ > > In article > > <93a944ce-ba93-42b3-b603-7aaddf25b...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Probably because PM's arguments are so riddled with jargon, Jargo0n is Carole's word for "Big words I do not understand". which goes to > expose the depths of his entanglement in orthodox medicine. He spends all > his time learning jargon and technical terms, nobody knows what the heck > he's talking about to give him a response. Oh, carole. There are those of us who fully understand him. You need an education. > Simple. Yes, you are. > And when I give him a response in plain English, he has no respect for it > because he thinks that only people who speak jargon are worth listening to. Wrong. You post in the language of Jibberish. unlike you, Mr. Moran has never shown you disrespect. > In article > <93a944ce-ba93-42b3-b603-7aaddf25bd12@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, On Jun 11, 3:05 am, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote in message Put a sock in it Doc! http://laughingmysocksoff.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/put-a-sock-in-it/ Also, see FACTS 30,31,32,33,34 below. You might want to start a separate thread about your curiously misinformed placebo theories, this thread is about HOMEOPATH FACTS which brings us to... HOMEOPATHY FACTS LIST - 45 FACTS with thanks to Zeus Information Service By Louise Mclean, LCCH MHMA Homeopathy Awareness Week 14th - 21st June 2008 How Homeopathy Works FACT 1: Hippocrates 'The Father of Medicine' of Ancient Greece said there were two Laws of Healing: The Law of Opposites and the Law of Similars. Homeopathy treats the patient with medicines using the Law of Similars, orthodox medicine uses the Law of Opposites, e.g. antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anti-convulsants, anti- hypertensives, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics. FACT 2: Homeopathic theories are based on fixed principles of the Laws of Nature which do not change - unlike medical theories which are constantly changing! FACT 3: Homeopathy is an evidence-based, empirical medicine. FACT 4: Homeopathy is both an art and a science. FACT 5: The Homeopathic PROVINGS of medicines are a more scientific method of testing than the orthodox model. FACT 6: Homeopathic medicine awakens and stimulates the body's own curative powers. The potentised remedy acts as a catalyst to set healing into motion. FACT 7: Homeopathy treats the WHOLE person. Homeopathic medicines work by communicating a current/pattern/frequency of energy via the whole human body to jump start the body's own inherent healing mechanisms. FACT 8: Homeopathy assists the body to heal itself, to overcome an illness which brings the patient to a HIGHER level of health. Orthodox medicine suppresses the illness, bringing the patient to a lower level of health. FACT 9: The homeopathic practitioner endeavours to search for and treat the CAUSE of the disease in order to heal the EFFECT. Homeopathic Medicines FACT 10: Homeopathic remedies are cheap. FACT 11: Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive. FACT 12: There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines. FACT 13. Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects. FACT 14: Every true homeopathic medicine is made using ONE SUBSTANCE - whether plant, mineral, etc. We know the exact substance it was made from, unlike most modern drugs where we are rarely informed of the ingredients. FACT 15: Any remedy up to a 12c or a 24x potency still contains the original molecules of the substance and this is known as Avogadro's number. FACT 16: Every Patient is Unique so homeopathic medicines are individualised. FACT 17: Homeopaths treat genetic illness, tracing its origins to 6 main genetic causes: Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Psora (scabies), Cancer, Leprosy. FACT 18: There are thousands of homeopathic books, available at specialist outlets, not sold in the high street. Homeopathy on the NHS FACT 19: There are 5 homeopathic hospitals in the UK - in London, Tunbridge Wells, Bristol, Liverpool and Glasgow. They cost the NHS under £10 million a year compared to the £100 billion for the total annual NHS budget for 2008! FACT 20: At one of the earliest debates on the NHS Act of 1948 the Government pledged that homoeopathy would continue to be available on the NHS, as long as there were "patients wishing to receive it and doctors willing to provide it". FACT 21: There is a campaign by certain UK Professors to oust homeopathy completely from the NHS after they wrote on NHS headed paper to all Primary Care Trusts in 2006 telling managers not to refer patients to the homeopathic hospitals. FACT 22: The Homeopathic Hospitals are clean, with friendly, well informed staff. The patients are generally pleased with their treatment unlike many orthodox National Health Service hospitals. FACT 23: The chances of contracting MRSA or C. Difficile at a Homeopathic Hospital are extremely rare. FACT 24: Unlike orthodox medicine where two thirds of all conventional hospital admissions are due to the side-effects of pharmaceutical medicines, the bill for negligence claims soaring into billions, one UK leading insurance company reported only 'a couple' of claims against homeopaths in a ten year period! Orthodox Medicine Opposing Homeopathy FACT 25: In the United States in the early 1900s there were 22 homeopathic medical schools and over 100 homeopathic hospitals, 60 orphanages and old people's homes and 1,000+ homeopathic pharmacies. FACT 26: Members of the American Medical Association had great animosity towards homeopathy after its formation in 1847 and it was decided to purge all local medical societies of physicians who were homeopaths. FACT 27: Big Pharma does not want the Public to find out how well homeopathy works! Scientific Studies FACT 28: In 2005 World Health Organisation brought out a draft report which showed homeopathy was beneficial causing Big Pharma to panic and the Lancet to bring out an editorial entitled 'The End of Homeopathy'. FACT 29: In 2005 the Lancet tried to destroy homeopathy but were only looking at 8 inconclusive trials out of 110 of which 102 were positive. This was a fraudulent analysis. "The meta-analysis at the centre of the controversy is based on 110 placebo-controlled clinical trials of homeopathy and 110 clinical trials of allopathy (conventional medicine), which are said to be matched. These were reduced to 21 trials of homeopathy and 9 of conventional medicine of 'higher quality' and further reduced to 8 and 6 trials, respectively, which were 'larger, higher quality'. The final analysis which concluded that 'the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects' was based on just the eight 'larger, higher quality' clinical trials of homeopathy. The Lancet's press release did not mention this, instead giving the impression that the conclusions were based on all 110 trials." http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230 FACT 30: There have been many clinical trials that prove homeopathy works. In the past 24 years there have been more than 180 controlled, and 118 randomized, trials into homeopathy, which were analysed by four separate meta-analyses. In each case, the researchers concluded that the benefits of homeopathy went far beyond that which could be explained purely by the placebo effect. FACT 31: The Bristol Homeopathic Hospital carried out a study published in November 2005 of 6500 patients receiving homeopathic treatment. There was an overall improvement in health of 70% of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4454856.stm FACT 32: Homeopathy can never be properly tested through double blind randomised trials because each prescription is individualised as every patient is unique. Therefore 10 people with arthritis, for example, may all need a different homeopathic medicine. FACT 33: Homeopathic medicines are not tested on animals. FACT 34: Homeopathic medicines work even better on animals and babies than on adults, proving this cannot be placebo. FACT 35: Scientists agree that if and when homeopathy is accepted by the scientific community it will turn established science on its head. Homeopathic Practitioners FACT 36: Homeopathic Practitioners train for 4 years in Anatomy and Physiology, as well as Pathology and Disease, Materia Medica, Homeopathic Philosophy and study of the Homeopathic Repertory. FACT 37: Most homeopaths treat patients who have been referred to them by word of mouth. Most patients seek out homeopathy because conventional treatment has not benefitted them or because it poses too great a risk of side-effects. FACT 38: The homeopathic community has thousands, even millions, of written case notes that demonstrate the positive benefits of their treatment. Some homeopaths have video proof of their patients before and after treatment. FACT 39: Homeopaths charge patients an average of £50 an hour. Specialist Doctors can charge up to £200 or more. Popularity of Homeopathy FACT 40: The popularity of homeopathy has grown in the past 30 years, its revival entirely through word of mouth and estimated to be growing at more than 20% a year the world over! FACT 41: Hundreds of famous people throughout the past 200 years have enjoyed the benefits of homeopathic medicine. www.homeopathicrevolution.com FACT 42: The aristocratic patronage of homeopathy in the UK extended well into the 1940s and beyond can be easily demonstrated. In the Homeopathic Medical Directories there are lists of patrons of the dispensaries and hospitals. They read like an extract from Burke's or Debrett's. FACT 43: Homeopathy is practised nowadays in countries all over the world. In India there are 100 homeopathic medical schools and around 250,000 homeopathic doctors! FACT 44: In a recent Global TGI survey where people were asked whether they trust homeopathy the following percentages of people living in urban areas said YES: 62% in India, 58% Brazil, 53% Saudi Arabia, Chile 49%, United Arab Emirates 49%, France 40%, South Africa 35%, Russia 28%, Germany 27%, Argentina 25%, Hungary 25%, USA 18%, UK 15%. http://www.tgisurveys.com/documents/TGIbarometerhomeopathy_Jan08.pdf FACT 45: The media as a whole has been unwilling to air a defence of the efficacy of homeopathy and the validity of this 250 year old profession. Copyright Louise Mclean © 2008 Sue Young Homeopathy Copyright © 2008 All Rights Reserved Disclaimer: Any views or advice in this weblog should not be taken as a substitute for medical advice or treatment, especially if you know you have a specific health complaint Article Link: http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/archives/2008/06/08/homeopathy-facts... Citizen Jimserac > Richard Schultz dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter." > > "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > Put a sock in it Doc! Cannot handle the heat of cogent analysis. > You might want to start a separate thread about your > curiously misinformed placebo theories, this thread > is about HOMEOPATH FACTS which brings us to... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuckincustoms |
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