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Hidden Sources Of MSG In Foods
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Tim Campbell - 10 Jun 2008 02:12 GMT From the book 'Excitotoxins - The Taste That Kills'- By Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD-
What if someone were to tell you that a chemical (MSG) added to food could cause brain damage in your children, and that this chemical could effect how your children's nervous systems formed during development so that in later years they may have learning or emotional difficulties?
What if there was scientific evidence that these chemicals could permanently damage a critical part of the brain known to control hormones so that later in life your child might have endocrine problems? How would you feel?
Suppose evidence was presented to you strongly suggesting that the artificial sweetener in your diet soft drink may cause brain tumors to develop, and that the number of brain tumors reported since the introduction of this widespread introduction of this artificial sweetener has risen dramatically? Would that affect your decision to drink these products and especially to allow your children to drink them? What if you could be shown overwhelming evidence that one of the main ingredients in this sweetener (aspartate) could cause the same brain lesions as MSG? Would that affect your buying decisions?
And finally, what if it could be demonstrated that all of these types of chemicals, called excitotoxins, could possibly aggravate or even precipitate many of today's epidemic neurodegenerative brain diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, ALS, and Alzheimer's disease? Would you be concerned if you knew that these excitotoxin food additives are a particular risk if you have diabetes, or have ever had a stroke, brain injury, brain tumor, seizure, or have suffered from hypertension, meningitis, or viral encephalitis?
Would you also be upset to learn that many of the brain lesions caused by these products in your children are irreversible and can result from a SINGLE exposure of these products in sufficient concentration?
How would you feel when you learn the food industry hides and disguises these excitotoxin additives (MSG and Aspartate) so they can't be recognized? Incredulous? Enraged? The fact is many foods are labeled as having "No MSG" but in fact not only contain MSG but also are laced with other excitotoxins of equal potency and danger.
All of the above are true. And all of these well known brain toxins are poured into our food and drink by the thousands of tons to boost sales. These additives have NO OTHER purpose other than to enhance to TASTE of food and the SWEETNESS of various diet products.
Hidden Sources Of MSG
As discussed previously, the glutamate (MSG) manufacturers and the processed food industries are always on a quest to disguise the MSG added to food. Below is a partial list of the most common names for disguised MSG. Remember also that the powerful excitotoxins, aspartate and L-cystine, are frequently added to foods and according to FDA rules require NO LABELING AT ALL.
* Food Additives that ALWAYS contain MSG *
Monosodium Glutamate
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein
Hydrolyzed Protein
Hydrolyzed Plant Protein
Plant Protein Extract
Sodium Caseinate
Calcium Caseinate
Yeast Extract
Textured Protein (Including TVP)
Autolyzed Yeast
Hydrolyzed Oat Flour
Corn Oil
* Food Additives That FREQUENTLY Contain MSG *
Malt Extract
Malt Flavoring
Bouillon
Broth
Stock
Flavoring
Natural Flavors/Flavoring
Natural Beef Or Chicken Flavoring
Seasoning
Spices
* Food Additives That MAY Contain MSG Or Excitotoxins *
Carrageenan
Enzymes
Soy Protein Concentrate
Soy Protein Isolate
Whey Protein Concentrate
Also: Protease Enzymes of various sources can release excitotoxin amino acids from food proteins.
Aspartame - An Intense Source Of Excitotoxins
Aspartame is a sweetener made from two amino acids, phenylalanine and the excitotoxin aspartate. It should be avoided at all costs. Aspartame complaints accounts for approximately 70% of ALL complaints to the FDA. It is implicated in everything from blindness to headaches to convulsions. Sold under dozens of brand names such as NutraSweet and Equal, aspartame breaks down within 20 minutes at room temperature into several primary toxic and dangerous ingredients:
1. DKP (diketopiperazine) (When ingested, converts to a near duplicate of
a powerful brain tumor causing agent)
2. Formic Acid (ant venom)
3. Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)
4. Methanol (causes blindness...extremely dangerous substance)
Common Examples:
Diet soft drinks, sugar free gums, sugar free Kool Aid, Crystal Light, childrens' medications, and thousands of other products claiming to be 'low calorie', 'diet', or 'sugar free'.
A Final Note...
Dr. Blaylock recounted a meeting with a senior executive in the food additive industry who told him point blank that these excitotoxins are going to be in our food no matter how many name changes are necessary...
Mark Thorson - 10 Jun 2008 02:44 GMT > From the book 'Excitotoxins - The Taste That Kills'- > By Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD- > > * Food Additives that ALWAYS contain MSG * > > Corn Oil Total baloney. There's no MSG in corn oil. MSG is not soluble in any vegetable oil. If you doubt that, buy some of both and try to dissolve one in the other. You can't.
If Blaylock were a competent doctor, he would know that. Blaylock is not a reliable source of information.
Jan Drew - 10 Jun 2008 06:08 GMT >> From the book 'Excitotoxins - The Taste That Kills'- >> By Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD- [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Total baloney. Yours, yes.
Food Additives that ALWAYS contain MSG :
Monosodium Glutamate, Autolyzed Yeast, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, Hydrolyzed Protein, Hydrolyzed Plant Protein, Plant Protein Extract, Sodium Caseinate, Calcium Caseinate, Yeast Extract, Textured Protein (Including TVP), Hydrolyzed Oat Flour, Corn Oil
There's no MSG in corn oil.
Blatant lie.
Mark Thorson - 10 Jun 2008 20:28 GMT > >> From the book 'Excitotoxins - The Taste That Kills'- > >> By Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD- [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yours, yes. You and Blaylock lack a basic knowledge of chemistry. I can understand how you could lack that knowledge, but it's hard to see how Blaylock could have gotten an MD without knowing even a little chemistry.
> Food Additives that ALWAYS contain MSG : > > Monosodium Glutamate, Autolyzed Yeast, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, > Hydrolyzed Protein, Hydrolyzed Plant Protein, Plant Protein Extract, Sodium > Caseinate, Calcium Caseinate, Yeast Extract, Textured Protein (Including > TVP), Hydrolyzed Oat Flour, Corn Oil Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true. It just shows you don't understand even the simplest facts about chemistry.
> >There's no MSG in corn oil. > > > Blatant lie. No, it's true. Salts like MSG will not dissolve in vegetable oil. That isn't even first-year chemistry, it's high school chemistry. Like in Chapter 1, after the explanation of solids, liquids, and gases.
If you tried to dissolve MSG in corn oil, it would all fall to the bottom of the container. None of it would dissolve.
Jan Drew - 11 Jun 2008 05:58 GMT >> Tim Campbell wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> > Blatant lie. Jan Drew - 11 Jun 2008 05:53 GMT >>> From the book 'Excitotoxins - The Taste That Kills'- >>> By Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD- [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > Blatant lie. JOHN - 10 Jun 2008 08:23 GMT > If Blaylock were a competent doctor, he would > know that. Blaylock is not a reliable source > of information. Pharma talk http://whale.to/a/blaylock_h.html
D. C. Sessions - 11 Jun 2008 03:07 GMT >> If Blaylock were a competent doctor, he would >> know that. Blaylock is not a reliable source >> of information. > > Pharma talk http://whale.to/a/blaylock_h.html Which has -- what? -- to do with the solubility of MSG in oil? It's certainly an easy test to perform, even in a kitchen. Anyone of even moderate intelligence can perform it. Assuming, of course, that they have any regard at all for the truth.
So which of those two prerequisites do you lack?
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Jan Drew - 11 Jun 2008 06:04 GMT >> If Blaylock were a competent doctor, he would >> know that. Blaylock is not a reliable source [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Which has -- what? -- to do with the solubility of > MSG in oil? Duh, has to do with Mark Thorson your buddy another semiconductor polluter like you--misleading information.
Richard Schultz - 11 Jun 2008 06:24 GMT In misc.health.alternative D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
: Which has -- what? -- to do with the solubility of : MSG in oil? It's certainly an easy test to perform, : even in a kitchen. Anyone of even moderate intelligence : can perform it. Assuming, of course, that they have any : regard at all for the truth. I doubt that the average person has the equipment necessary to perform an accurate measure of the solubility of MSG in oil available to him in his kitchen.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 02:47 GMT > I doubt that the average person has the equipment necessary to perform > an accurate measure of the solubility of MSG in oil available to him > in his kitchen. They have the equipment to place a reasonable upper bound on it.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 12 Jun 2008 05:50 GMT :> I doubt that the average person has the equipment necessary to perform :> an accurate measure of the solubility of MSG in oil available to him :> in his kitchen. : : They have the equipment to place a reasonable upper bound on it. If it's as insoluble as I think it is, I find that a bit hard to believe. I'm guessing that the amount of MSG that can be dissolved in the largest vessel found in the typical kitchen will be less than that can be measured by the scale typically found in a kitchen, which has a sensitivity of on the order of 10g. "Zero" is a reasonable lower bound, but not a reasonable upper bound.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 12:01 GMT > :> I doubt that the average person has the equipment necessary to perform > :> an accurate measure of the solubility of MSG in oil available to him [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the order of 10g. "Zero" is a reasonable lower bound, but not a reasonable > upper bound. Huh? Using kitchen equipment I can measure out (for the sake of discussion) 30 g. I can divide that easily by two, then two again, and so on down to one gram trivially; it's not like that's a small volume of material. (Actually, using US kitchen equipment I can get an 1/8 tsp volume trivially easily and figure the mass later.)
If that won't dissolve in the liter of oil, I have an upper bound of 1 g/l on solubility. Could, of course, be lower but it's guaranteed to not be higher.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Richard Schultz - 12 Jun 2008 12:19 GMT : If that won't dissolve in the liter of oil, I have an upper : bound of 1 g/l on solubility. Could, of course, be lower : but it's guaranteed to not be higher. That's an upper bound, but it's not what I'd call a "reasonable" upper bound since it's at least two orders of magnitude higher than the actual solubility. I guess doing research involving solutions of 100 mg/L or less accustoms one to thinking that 1 g/L is a "highly" concenctrated solution (especially since the solutions I'm talking about involve complexes of molecular weights of several hundred g/mol).
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 12:57 GMT > : If that won't dissolve in the liter of oil, I have an upper > : bound of 1 g/l on solubility. Could, of course, be lower [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (especially since the solutions I'm talking about involve complexes of > molecular weights of several hundred g/mol). Well, sure -- but consider the audience. That kind of crude kitchen chemistry is pretty exotic in context.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Peter Bowditch - 11 Jun 2008 07:20 GMT >What if someone were to tell you that a chemical (MSG) added to food >could cause brain damage in your children, I would immediately stop eating pizza, because several of the standard ingredients are very high in natural MSG.
<snip remaining scaremongering from someone who couldn't even give the correct name of the place where he supposedly worked>
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D. C. Sessions - 12 Jun 2008 02:49 GMT >>What if someone were to tell you that a chemical (MSG) added to food >>could cause brain damage in your children, > > I would immediately stop eating pizza, because several of the standard > ingredients are very high in natural MSG. Peter, you ignorant slut, that is *natural* MSG. It's harmless, of course -- it's the *artificial* MSG that kills.
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
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