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Should people use underarm deodorant?

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Carole - 04 Jun 2008 10:18 GMT
What does it mean that people have underarm odour?

My interpretation is that people shouldn't use underarm deodorants because
it is due to a silicon dioxide deficiency, which is one of the 12 essential
cellsalts.
So anybody who uses underarm deodorants is in effect, covering up a
condition that should be treated with nutrition.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
Richard Schultz - 04 Jun 2008 10:53 GMT
: What does it mean that people have underarm odour?

It means that bacteria are attacking substances found in their sweat.

: My interpretation is that people shouldn't use underarm deodorants because
: it is due to a silicon dioxide deficiency, which is one of the 12 essential
: cellsalts.

Is there any point in reminding you that it is possible to estimate the
odds that anyone is suffering from a silicon dioxide deficiency in his
or her diet?  Is there any point in reminding you that the cell salt theory
is blatant and obvious nonsense?  Does your sudden reappearance mean that
"PeterB" is not far behind?

: So anybody who uses underarm deodorants is in effect, covering up a
: condition that should be treated with nutrition.

Don't you find it a bit weird that the only symptom of a silicon dioxide
deficiency is underarm odor?

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Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
Carole - 04 Jun 2008 11:59 GMT
> : What does it mean that people have underarm odour?
>
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> is blatant and obvious nonsense?  Does your sudden reappearance mean that
> "PeterB" is not far behind?

Yes, I've been having internet problems -- something to do with the system
dropping out after a short time.
So I got into the routine of just do the basic things before getting cut
off. But its been fixed now.

What has PeterB got to do with me?
From what I can tell he is off on his own tangent, nothing to do with
cellsalts which is my hobby horse.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
www.soiltheory.com

> : So anybody who uses underarm deodorants is in effect, covering up a
> : condition that should be treated with nutrition.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> -----
> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
Richard Schultz - 04 Jun 2008 16:20 GMT
: What has PeterB got to do with me?

As far as I can tell, one of you is a sock puppet for the other -- if for
no other reason than your common habit of refusing to answer questions
the answers to which would contradict the views you espouse.

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Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"French bread makes very good skis"
Carole - 06 Jun 2008 08:18 GMT
> : What has PeterB got to do with me?
>
> As far as I can tell, one of you is a sock puppet for the other -- if for
> no other reason than your common habit of refusing to answer questions
> the answers to which would contradict the views you espouse.

I have never heard PeterB talk about cellsalts except to say that calcium
supplements were bad and people didn't need them, which is crazy as most
people have some sort of osteoporosis by the time they get to old age.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

> -----
> Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
> Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
> Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
> -----
> "French bread makes very good skis"
Bedbackwards - 06 Jun 2008 08:28 GMT
> As far as I can tell, one of you is a sock puppet for the other -- if for
> no other reason than your common habit of refusing to answer questions
> the answers to which would contradict the views you espouse.

Pretty funny.  They don't even write alike!!   You on the other
hand.......would appear to be a different story!!
Carole - 06 Jun 2008 08:30 GMT
> What does it mean that people have underarm odour?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So anybody who uses underarm deodorants is in effect, covering up a
> condition that should be treated with nutrition.

Silica or silicon dioxide, is an essential nutrient needed by the body to
build hair, skin, nails as well as deep cleansing of toxic accumulations.
The fact there is no RDA for silica shows the inadequacy of modern medical
science and their knowledge.
However, their have been some studies done on chickens that demonstrate a
deficiency causes abnormalities in their leg bones. See

WHO FOOD ADDITIVES SERIES NO. 5
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v05je04.htm
"Thus the effect of silicon on skeletal development indicates that it plays
an important role in an early stage of bone formation"

"SILICA (Silicic Oxide)
"Silica is a cleanser and eliminator. It is a deep-acting remedy which helps
the body to throw off non-functional organic matter that may have arrived at
a given point during Nature's effort to eliminate it from the system. It can
often initiate the healing process by promoting suppuration and breaking up
pathological accumulations e.g., abscesses. Silica is a constituent of the
hair, skin, nails and surfaces of the bones. It also acts in the manner of
an insulator for the nerves. In cases of checked perspiration, Silica
restores the activity of the skin, thereby aiding this important cleansing
process.
"It is the biochemic remedy for offensive perspiration of the feet and
arm-pits.Silica is indicted where-ever there is pus formation or threatened
suppuration e.g., abscesses, boils, gumboils, styes, etc. It is useful in
the treatment of tonsillitis when pus has begun to form. Brittle or crippled
nails and diseases affecting the surfaces of the bones need this remedy.
Silica is helpful as a supplementary remedy in cases of dyspepsia and pains
in the region of the stomach. The symptoms are usually worse at night and in
the morning and are relieved by the application of heat."
-- The Biochemic Handbook on cellsalts, by Chapman and Perry

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

> Carole
> www.cellsalts.net
Richard Schultz - 06 Jun 2008 13:28 GMT
: Silica or silicon dioxide, is an essential nutrient needed by the body to
: build hair, skin, nails as well as deep cleansing of toxic accumulations.
: The fact there is no RDA for silica shows the inadequacy of modern medical
: science and their knowledge.

Why do you refuse to do the relatively simple calculation that I outlined
to determine the likelihood that any given person suffers from a silica
deficiency?

-----
Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"It's certainly easy to mock things," agreed Trefusis.  "Oddly enough
though I've never found it easy to mock anything of value.  Only things
that are tawdry and fatuous -- perhaps it's just me."
Carole - 07 Jun 2008 12:50 GMT
> : Silica or silicon dioxide, is an essential nutrient needed by the body
> to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> to determine the likelihood that any given person suffers from a silica
> deficiency?

I must have missed that post.
But anyway modern medicine doesn't even acknowledge that silica is an
essential nutrient, so what are you suggesting?

But I just gave you one of the indications, ie underarm odour or wetness.
What more do you need to know?

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

> -----
> Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> though I've never found it easy to mock anything of value.  Only things
> that are tawdry and fatuous -- perhaps it's just me."
Richard Schultz - 10 Jun 2008 06:07 GMT
:> : Silica or silicon dioxide, is an essential nutrient needed by the body
:> : to build hair, skin, nails as well as deep cleansing of toxic
:> : accumulations. The fact there is no RDA for silica shows the inadequacy
:> : of modern medical science and their knowledge.

:> Why do you refuse to do the relatively simple calculation that I outlined
:> to determine the likelihood that any given person suffers from a silica
:> deficiency?

: I must have missed that post.

Well, why don't you try the following calculation:  what is the solubility
of silica in water at physiological pH?  Assume that the amount needed in
the body is the amount to keep the body's fluids saturated.  How much
silica would then be lost per day?  Now calculate how much silica a person
is likely to ingest each day from natural sources.

This is a back-of-the-envelope estimate, but it should give you some idea
of the likelihood that people suffer from silica deficiency.

: But anyway modern medicine doesn't even acknowledge that silica is an
: essential nutrient, so what are you suggesting?

I'm suggesting that your notion that silica deficiency is a major problem
is a notion that is a priori absurd.

: But I just gave you one of the indications, ie underarm odour or wetness.
: What more do you need to know?

Don't you find it strange that the only symptom of silica deficiency is
underarm odor -- especially since there is a far more plausible explanation
for the cause of underarm odor, and you have no plausible suggestions for
the mechanism(s) by which silica might prevent underarm odor?

-----
Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
 
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