I am on a horrific chemical soup...(sorry, its a little long)

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rhijulbec - 31 May 2008 20:38 GMT

I take Effexor XL 75mg three (225mg) every morning for depression;
Avandia 4mg every twelve hours for diabetes; morphine 30+60mg slow
release 1 of each every 8 hours; morphine 10mg two in morning, 1 at
night for migraine and fibro; chlorpromazine 25mg when needed for
nausea due to migraine; clonazepam 0.5 one at night anxiety; zopiclone
7.5mg one at night sleeping pill; trazodone 50mg two at night
antidepressive and sleep assistant. I know this sounds like a
horrible jumble and probably should be culled to just the necessary
but for now I have been in a very deep depression with anxiety for
several months, the change in weather brings on huge migraines and
fibro attacks, so for now I need to be on these drugs. After the
effects of spring and the drastic changes in weather are over I may be
able to go off some of them.

Now I really do have a question here. Some of the drugs I am on cause
water weight gain. Especially the Effexor. I went off them for a few
months last year and lost over 35lbs. I went back on them after this
current depression became clinical and gained back 22lbs in just a
little over a month.

Is there a(n) herbal diuretic that is safe to use with the chemical
soup I am on? I cannot stop taking the pills I am on but I also
cannot continue to gain weight. And I DO NOT want to add another pill
to this lot. (I am eating well..mostly vegetarian and whole grain. We
eat the occasional meat but rarely. I could do without it forever
but my partner is a died in the wool carnivore. I have talked him out
of beef every other day to some chicken and fish occasionaly.)

Sorry for all the info but I wanted to give you a complete picture so
whoever can help me has all the info to make an informed decision.

Thank you so much for the help...I really appreciate it.

Jen

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Carole - 02 Jun 2008 14:42 GMT

>I take Effexor XL 75mg three (225mg) every morning for depression;
> Avandia 4mg every twelve hours for diabetes; morphine 30+60mg slow
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> effects of spring and the drastic changes in weather are over I may be
> able to go off some of them.

Have you consulted your doctor about the weight gain ...what is his opinion?

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

> Now I really do have a question here. Some of the drugs I am on cause
> water weight gain. Especially the Effexor. I went off them for a few
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> Jen

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rhijulbec - 02 Jun 2008 22:28 GMT

I have asked the Dr about the weight and he said only...you are likely
to gain weight on the Effexor but you have to decide which is
worse...the depression or the weight gain. Well what do I say to
that? I have been to hell the last few months and the Effexor seems
to bring me back to the world of the living...so you tell me...BUT I
have several illnesses that the weight gain causes to worsen ...for
example fibromyalgia, diabetes...the fibro is made worse by the weight
gain, the pain is much, much worse cause I cannot move as much with
the added weight. I am affected mostly from the waist down with
terrible crampimg, throbbing pain like a really, really bad toothache
and when I stretch or move the wrong way it feels like soneone is
pulling the muscles away from the bones, seriously! Its that bad.

My blood sugar is higher even though I do not eat any more than when I
was thinner. It goes up at least one number for every 10lbs. So
instead of being at a 5.3 I am now at 8.1-which is right at the level
of high normal. So I am not above normal most of the time, but I am
high (and not in the good way) which only heightens the damage done
by the high numbers.

Imagine finally fitting into pants that you put away 3 years ago and
they are loose, only to have to go back on the full strength of an
antideporessant and gain back every single ounce you lost in less than
a month. I cannot even pull those pants up anymore!

I am so disheartened!

I do not want to go on yet another chemical...such as a dieuretic,
which I am certain he would probably give me and I want to try a much
less damaging way of losing the water weight gain.

Do you know of any? Please help if you can.

Jen

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Carole - 04 Jun 2008 09:30 GMT

>I have asked the Dr about the weight and he said only...you are likely
> to gain weight on the Effexor but you have to decide which is
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> Do you know of any? Please help if you can.

I sympathise with your problems but don't know of any diuretic and don't
know if that would even be the solution.
The only thing I can suggest is you go and see a good naturapath, chinese
herbalist or a homeopath.
From my point of view I wouldn't touch a pharmaceutical drug and would look
to alternative medicine.
I don't take any pharmaceutical drugs except the odd paracetamol if I have a
cold or a hangover. I probably go through 1 pack of 20 tablets every year if
that, and this has been the way for me for the past 30 years.
However, I'm not diabetic and have to sympathise with you over that, except
if its type 2 which I hear can be reversed a lot of the time by strict
adherence to the right diet.
I get things wrong with me but try to figure out which alternative remedy
can fix it. And when I say alternative remedy I mean cellsalts which has
been my thing for the past 30 years. But if cellsalts failed to fix a
condition I would try homeopathy or chinese herbalism.
All the best,

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

> Jen

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