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Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 00:18 GMT
From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal
Yes, Gorski has been a member of the Snake-oil Vigilantes.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#David-Gorski

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/DisinformationAgents.htm#David-Gorski

Haven't read this piece, but wanted to add that David Gorski (who for
years hid behind "Orac" ... is a very active participant on Wikipedia,
the Healthfraud List, the Snake oil Vigilante Brigade ... while being
a recipient of money from the DOD. He has several pro-vacccination
industry blogs ... and haunted Usenet for years tho prefers arenas
where their is censorship in his favour.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/david-gorski-md.html

Thanks for posting this John.
Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 00:24 GMT
Note from Ilena Rosenthal, Health Lover:

Mark ... as avoluntary  member of the selfnamed "Rag-tag Posse of
Snake-oil Vigilantes" ... why would you be a member of a group of
people suing other people whose name you consider to be an "ad
hominem." Sorry, it doesn't make sense.

Mark Probert          
    May 29, 1:32 pm

On May 29, 2:43 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

> http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/david-gorski-md.html 

> is he one of the health fraud posse?

Why? do you want to further the ad hominem?
Mark Probert - 30 May 2008 13:55 GMT
> Note from Ilena Rosenthal, Health Lover:
>
> Mark ... as avoluntary  member of the selfnamed "Rag-tag Posse of
> Snake-oil Vigilantes" ... why would you be a member of a group of
> people suing other people whose name you consider to be an "ad
> hominem." Sorry, it doesn't make sense.

Your question does not make sense.

> Mark Probert            
>         May 29, 1:32 pm
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>
> Why? do you want to further the ad hominem?
D. C. Sessions - 30 May 2008 17:00 GMT
> Your question does not make sense.

Was that a question?
Anyway, you should know better by now.

| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
|  unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct   |
|  before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson    |
+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+
Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 01:28 GMT
How could he have spent so much time on blogs and Wikipedia and the
Health Fraud list when he was being paid by the DOD?

http://www2.umdnj.edu/rnewsweb/print/2003/awdAugustSeptember2003.htm
Research News

August/September 2003


David H. Gorski, M.D., Ph.D., Assistant Professor received $466,500
from the Department of Defense Breast Cancer Research Program (Idea
Award) for a grant entitled "Inhibition of Breast Cancer-Induced
Angiogenesis by a Diverged Homeobox Gene."
Mark Probert - 30 May 2008 13:57 GMT
> How could he have spent so much time on blogs and Wikipedia and the
> Health Fraud list when he was being paid by the DOD?

He was the recipient of a research grant issued by the DOD to fund
research into breast cancer. Please try to properly characterize that
F A C T.

His area of research is specifically witnin the title of the study.

> http://www2.umdnj.edu/rnewsweb/print/2003/awdAugustSeptember2003.htm
> Research News
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Award) for a grant entitled "Inhibition of Breast Cancer-Induced
> Angiogenesis by a Diverged Homeobox Gene."
Jan Drew - 31 May 2008 03:03 GMT
On May 29, 8:28 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> How could he have spent so much time on blogs and Wikipedia and the
> Health Fraud list when he was being paid by the DOD?

He was the recipient of a research grant issued by the DOD to fund
research into breast cancer. Please try to properly characterize that
F A C T.

His area of research is specifically witnin the title of the study.
===
Too funny.  Idea award.

> http://www2.umdnj.edu/rnewsweb/print/2003/awdAugustSeptember2003.htm
> Research News
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Award) for a grant entitled "Inhibition of Breast Cancer-Induced
> Angiogenesis by a Diverged Homeobox Gene."
Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 15:12 GMT
LOL .. Mark S Probert ... how in the world would YOU KNOW who lurks
behind all the Quackwatch / Junk Science promoter aliases on
Wiki?????????????

Indeed ... Orac was paid by the Department of Defense but spends
inordinate times with his Vacciantion Promotion blogs and Healthfraud
and Wiki. The government / corporations know how to get money into the
pockets of those whose mouths they buy.
Mark Probert - 30 May 2008 15:30 GMT
> LOL .. Mark S Probert ... how in the world would YOU KNOW who lurks
> behind all the Quackwatch / Junk Science promoter aliases on
> Wiki?????????????

We discuss it at our secret meetings, the last being held on 2/30/08.

> Indeed ... Orac was paid by the Department of Defense

They financed research in his area of specialty. Note that one of his
published papers has been cited as authorative over 400 times.

but spends
> inordinate times with his Vacciantion Promotion blogs

Nah. He whips them out in minutes.

and Healthfraud
> and Wiki. The government / corporations know how to get money into the
> pockets of those whose mouths they buy.

You need to believe that he is bought since you cannot refute what he
says.

I understand that.
Jan Drew - 31 May 2008 04:58 GMT
On May 30, 10:12 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> LOL .. Mark S Probert ... how in the world would YOU KNOW who lurks
> behind all the Quackwatch / Junk Science promoter aliases on
> Wiki?????????????

We discuss it at our secret meetings, the last being held on 2/30/08.

Prove it.

> Indeed ... Orac was paid by the Department of Defense

They financed research in his area of specialty. Note that one of his
published papers has been cited as authorative over 400 times.

They being *organized medicine*.

but spends
> inordinate times with his Vacciantion Promotion blogs

Nah. He whips them out in minutes.

By telling lies.  He even lies for you, Mark S Probert.

and Healthfraud
> and Wiki. The government / corporations know how to get money into the
> pockets of those whose mouths they buy.

You need to believe that he is bought since you cannot refute what he
says.

I understand that.

You understand nothing.
Neither can he refute, he just tells more lies.
He has repeatedly lied for you.
Like you, he says things he cannot back up

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/thread/6d71
238ca4eaeb/fa2d6bcc3f4511e2?lnk=st&q=Hello+Orac
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Coleah - 31 May 2008 05:33 GMT
> On May 30, 10:12 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
>
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>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/...

Jan Drew....proven LIAR ....preaching abut someone not backing
something up????  She shall surely rot in hell for hood winking
attempts.
Jan Drew - 01 Jun 2008 03:12 GMT
On May 30, 10:58 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On May 30, 10:12 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
>> LOL .. Mark S Probert ... how in the world would YOU KNOW who lurks
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>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/thread/6d71
238ca4eaeb/fa2d6bcc3f4511e2?lnk=st&q=Hello+Orac
#

> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/...

Poor Coleah posting incorrect link.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/thread/6d71
238ca4eaeb/fa2d6bcc3f4511e2?lnk=st&q=Hello+Orac#>Jan
 DrewIs not the subject.
Coleah - 01 Jun 2008 15:29 GMT
> On May 30, 10:58 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
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> > He has repeatedly lied for you.
> > Like you, he says things he cannot back up

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> >http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/...
>
> Poor Coleah posting incorrect link.
>
>  http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/...>Jan DrewIs not the subject.- Hide quoted text -
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Ah.....Earth to Jan......the link you are falsely advertising as me
posting, was indeed posted by someone else.  Look back in the thread
for proof.  Now, get some help for that lying a.s of yours.  Learn to
read for comprehension or check into the Alzheimer's unit.
Jan Drew - 02 Jun 2008 06:35 GMT
Jan Drew - 31 May 2008 05:24 GMT
Proven liar and harasser.

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 8, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
05-08...@limbercartel.com>
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:55:36 GMT
Local: Sat, May 8 2004 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: ~~~My Transgendered Activities ~~~

Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20040507213418.27424.00000532@mb-m24.aol.com...

> >Subject: Re: ~~~My Transgendered Activities ~~~
> >From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 5, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t
> >05-05...@limbercartel.com
> >Date: 5/5/2004 8:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <YU8mc.143950$Gd3.34297...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

> >Anth, I do not respond to anything that the

Woman-Whose-Name-I-Will-Not-Type

> >publishes on her pages of sickness.

> However, that is new. Mark/Marla did plenty of replying, once upon a time.

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

Jan, you are a f*cking bitch. I attempted to be polite and courteous to you
for the past week, and you post that insame bitch's defamatory web pages.

AFAIAC< you are a sick as she is.

The gloves are back off.
JOHN - 30 May 2008 08:16 GMT
> From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal
> Yes, Gorski has been a member of the Snake-oil Vigilantes.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> industry blogs ... and haunted Usenet for years tho prefers arenas
> where their is censorship in his favour.

thanks, posted that on that blog, what is his moniker on Wiki?

haven't been on HealthFraud for awhile, saw Moron was on it last time I
looked.
Mark Probert - 30 May 2008 13:58 GMT
> > From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal
> > Yes, Gorski has been a member of the Snake-oil Vigilantes.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> thanks, posted that on that blog, what is his moniker on Wiki?

He is not on Wiki.

> haven't been on HealthFraud for awhile, saw Moron was on it last time I
> looked.

You saw yourself?
 
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