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Merck Mouth, Myrl Jeffcoat, claims Gardasil can "Return them to Health" ... FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE
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Ilena Rose - 29 May 2008 03:45 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787daaffcb6d9/6d 188ff1f016a12b?lnk=gst&q=author%3Amyrl+gardasil+return+them+to+health#6d188ff1f0 16a12b
The only Vaccination Flack who has had the audacity to go this far in promoting Gardasil is my long term nemesis, and blatant pathological liar, Myrl Jeffcoat.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html She lies about vaccinations, about me, and has spun around180 degrees on several issues:
Patrick O'leary ... President of Inamed and now Medicor's Eurosilicone www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm
Laetrile ... went from being grateful that her mother survived 20+ years after uterine cancer diagnose, using no surgery, radiation nor chemo PAIN FREE ... only laetrile ... to screaming it is "pus or poison" much like Vac Flack Mark S Probert. She did this 180 degree turn 30 years after her mother's death. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistprobert.html
And now she makes this outrageous and false claim for Gardasil ...
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/msg/3143e801a10978f2?dmode...
"Given a choice between saving lives of 70% of the 250,000 - 290,000 women who die, vs. 7 UNPROVEN associated deaths. . .I don't think there is any choice, for most logically thinking people.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
This blatant disinformation from Myrl ... which she stands by, is totally bogus. Gardasil does NOT return "them to health" ... it is just Myrl Jeffcoat advertising lies for Merck.
Here Myrl is explaining what she calls "simple math" about the enormously complex and multi-faceted vaccination controversy ... the 'she' is me, Ilena, who Myrl has been attacking since joining Barrett's disinformation team about his losing lawsuit.
"She's so focused on bashing the idea that a vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is reluctant to do the math. . . 250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives saved!" Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat September 2007
Coleah - 29 May 2008 04:05 GMT > http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787da... > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > reluctant to do the math. . . 250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives > saved!" Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat September 2007 ----------------------------------- I love it when Ilena acts like a clear, dignified, credible and knowledgeable professional (cough, cough, cough). As once again demonstrated (in her presentation above), her ability to spout unfocused and rambling thoughts that bounce from one subject to another with remarkable lack of communication skills.
Beat that bad horsey, Ilena......and ride-ride-ride. Chortle, chortle!
Jan Drew - 29 May 2008 05:15 GMT "Coleah" -----------------------------------
Myrl - 29 May 2008 04:13 GMT > This blatant disinformation from Myrl ... which she stands by, is > totally bogus. Gardasil does NOT return "them to health" ... it is > just Myrl Jeffcoat advertising lies for Merck. And folks - this is what Ilena Rosenthal does best! She spins and twists everyone's words to fit her own agenda.
I have never said Gardasil would return anyone to health. But, Ilena Rosenthal continues to try to bank-roll my words into that.
While Ilena Rosenthal continues to promote her "7" UNPROVEN associated deaths to the Gardasil vaccine, she fails to mention the 250,000 - 290,000 women who die globally from Cervical Cancer each year. She also refuses to mention the millions and millions of women (and men too), who must undergo traumatic, and expensive treatment for HPV related symptoms and disease.
Ilena complains about the high cost of the vaccine (Estimated at about $400. for the series). For those that are unprotected because they didn't receive the vaccine, there is a cost associated to returning people to health from HPV related illness. Gardasil protects girls and women, and preventing HPV strains, which account for 70%+ of Cervical Cancer cases.
Ilena Rosenthal is a very effective flack for the funeral industry.
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Jan Drew - 29 May 2008 05:17 GMT "Myrl"
>Ilena Rosenthal This thread is not about IIena. It IS about you.
Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 14:57 GMT MYRL JEFFCOAT did a 180 degree turn and basically, took over the 'work' of promoting Patrick O'leary after Schaezler lost all credibility. Jeffcoat used Schaezler as the model ... taking up sock puppets and aliases for her attacks. O'leary was searching for a replacement to Schaezler who was no longer useful to him when he contacted me several times ... I refused.
Jeffcoat used all the propaganda tricks & lies of Schaezler ... this is the BEFORE picture.
The AFTER is Myrl calling herself "Will Ketcher" and promoting the Quack, Stephen Barrett and Junk Scientist, Patrick O'leary.
Experiences with Susan Schaezler and "Mplnt" ~ by Myrl Jeffcoat
From: "Myrl Jeffcoat" <my...@jps.net> To: <Il...@san.rr.com> Subject: Experiences with Susan Schaezler and "Mplnt" Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:16:08 -0700
To Whom it May Concern:
The purpose of this letter is to document certain experiences I have had on-line with Susan Schaezler, "Mplnt" and other entities.
In late 1995 I went on-line actively seeking information about the status of breast implant litigation. In June 1995 Dow Corning had declared bankruptcy and thrown approximately 144,000 breast implant victims into litigation limbo, who were to be part of the Global Class Action settlement.
I noted from the very beginning on the AOL Breast Implant Forum that Susan Schaezler and the entity known as "Mplnt" were present, as well as others that appeared to be very disruptive and insulting to implant victims. I had complained to Susan Schaezler, I didn't understand why a breast implant victim would be siding with an obvious pro-implant person to berate other victims.
Susan Schaezler had stated it was not her, but someone else, who was hijacking her identity and creating the disruption. I accepted her at her word, and we talked for a brief time (few days) about beginning a newslist, to create privacy for genuine implant victims, to give them safe harbor from the AOL board disruption.
While we were discussing it, she went ahead on her own and set it up, and instituted strenuous rules, regulations, and absolute control over membership. I was one of the "charter" members of BIS, and was there from the very beginning. Imagine my dismay when I discovered that "Mplnt" (one of the major disrupters of the AOL board) was also there, as a Susan Schaezler invited member.
Shortly after Susan Schaezler began BIS, she solicited from the membership an invitiation for us to all openly share our real names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. The suggestion from her, was that we ought to all feel comfortable enough with each other, and could do that.
I was one of the implant victims who did share my personal information openly on that list, and "Mplnt" was on the newslist and in the e-mail address when it occurred. Susan had always boasted that she knew the true identity of "Mplnt" and he was definitely not manufacturer related. She always suggested that he was a doctor knowledgeable about silicone issues, but did not believe our illnesses were caused by silicone.
A brief amount of time went by (a few months), when an altercation arose on the BIS newslist. It involved the presenting of a theory presented by "Mplnt" that was very controversial to one of our more knowledgeable implant victim members, Sue Lyons. Ultimately Sue was kicked off of BIS, because Sue had used an expletive in her response to "Mplnt" on BIS. Susan Schaezler immediately removed her from BIS, using the expletive as the reason.
It was because of Sue Lyon's removal, that I immediately began WIS (Women's Implant Support) with a nucleous of 9 women to keep Sue Lyons company.
Although we do not correspond now, Sue Lyons was the catalyst for my forming WIS (now a membership of 400 or so individuals). I stayed on BIS after Sue Lyons was kicked off for a time, but then the control issues from Susan Schaezler again raised their ugly head with another member (Angela Hans). This time, I unsubscribed. I didn't wish to deal with the disruption any longer.
"Mplnt" has been in our midst (breast implant forums, etc.) for many years. Susan Schaezler and he have always appeared to be joined at the hip.
Imagine my distress, when some 4 years later, I learned that "Mplnt" was none other than Patrick O'Leary (President of McGhan - Scotland). Even more distressing was the fact that I am a McGhan/3M victim.
Myrl Jeffcoat Women's Implant Support xxx Rancho Cordova, California 95670
Myrl - 30 May 2008 15:09 GMT The facts surrounding my changing course with Ilena began during the time I was a member of Ilena's small grouplet list (about 12 or so women). I had written a statement for Ilena to take into the courts to use in her trial against Patrick O'Leary. Ilena has posted that statement several times, including to my shock that she posted it here on ASBI before she ever took it into the courts!
However, I continued to believe for some time, that Ilena was doing the right thing in pursuing the case against Patrick O'Leary.
During the Grouplet days, Ilena would often pop in and highly encourage us to come to this board and help defend her in her battles against others. I had for many years been absent from this board, and actually didn't realize how badly things were out of control here with Ilena's behavior. Finally, I paid this newsgroup a visit, after one of Ilena's more compelling requests. What I witnessed, and a few others witnessed going on here, was enough for several of grouplet members, including myself, trying to persuade Ilena to not continue battling in the manner she was.
We suggested a Newsgroup Disclosure Statement be posted by her everytime someone started to battle. It was all to no-avail, and she became more virulent, than ever before!
It was then, that I began to seriously question the motivation of Ilena's actions here and elsewhere. And to question the agenda she was on, which was horribly damaging the credibility and image of those harmed by breast implants. . .Think about it folks, if an "advocate" of those made ill by breast implants, is acting the idiot, speaking without responsibility about people, and incapable of telling the truth - then how much credibility can those harmed by breast implants have.
If the self-proclaimed advocate is flirting and pimping herself to the President of McGhan or buddying up to an attorney for the breast implant manufacturer, Bristol Meyers, how much can she REALLY be on our side???
These are serious things to ponder, if you are women in our shoes??? However, if you aren't in our shoes (which Ilena isn't), then you can do most any irresponsible things you like! And if the heat gets too much for you legally, you can simply jump the border, and hide in the Costa Rican folliage where they don't have a treaty of extradition with the United States!
> MYRL JEFFCOAT did a 180 degree turn and basically, took over the > 'work' of promoting Patrick O'leary after Schaezler lost all [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > xxx > Rancho Cordova, California 95670 Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 15:07 GMT MYRL JEFFCOAT did a 180 degree turn and basically, took over the 'work' of promoting Patrick O'leary after Schaezler lost all credibility. Jeffcoat used Schaezler as the model ... taking up sock puppets and aliases for her attacks. O'leary was searching for a replacement to Schaezler who was no longer useful to him when he contacted me several times ... I refused.
Jeffcoat used all the propaganda tricks & lies of Schaezler ... this is the BEFORE picture.
The AFTER is Myrl calling herself "Will Ketcher" and promoting the Quack, Stephen Barrett and Junk Scientist, Patrick O'leary.
Experiences with Susan Schaezler and "Mplnt" ~ by Myrl Jeffcoat
From: "Myrl Jeffcoat" <my...@jps.net> To: <Il...@san.rr.com> Subject: Experiences with Susan Schaezler and "Mplnt" Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:16:08 -0700
To Whom it May Concern:
The purpose of this letter is to document certain experiences I have had on-line with Susan Schaezler, "Mplnt" and other entities.
In late 1995 I went on-line actively seeking information about the status of breast implant litigation. In June 1995 Dow Corning had declared bankruptcy and thrown approximately 144,000 breast implant victims into litigation limbo, who were to be part of the Global Class Action settlement.
I noted from the very beginning on the AOL Breast Implant Forum that Susan Schaezler and the entity known as "Mplnt" were present, as well as others that appeared to be very disruptive and insulting to implant victims. I had complained to Susan Schaezler, I didn't understand why a breast implant victim would be siding with an obvious pro-implant person to berate other victims.
Susan Schaezler had stated it was not her, but someone else, who was hijacking her identity and creating the disruption. I accepted her at her word, and we talked for a brief time (few days) about beginning a newslist, to create privacy for genuine implant victims, to give them safe harbor from the AOL board disruption.
While we were discussing it, she went ahead on her own and set it up, and instituted strenuous rules, regulations, and absolute control over membership. I was one of the "charter" members of BIS, and was there from the very beginning. Imagine my dismay when I discovered that "Mplnt" (one of the major disrupters of the AOL board) was also there, as a Susan Schaezler invited member.
Shortly after Susan Schaezler began BIS, she solicited from the membership an invitiation for us to all openly share our real names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. The suggestion from her, was that we ought to all feel comfortable enough with each other, and could do that.
I was one of the implant victims who did share my personal information openly on that list, and "Mplnt" was on the newslist and in the e-mail address when it occurred. Susan had always boasted that she knew the true identity of "Mplnt" and he was definitely not manufacturer related. She always suggested that he was a doctor knowledgeable about silicone issues, but did not believe our illnesses were caused by silicone.
A brief amount of time went by (a few months), when an altercation arose on the BIS newslist. It involved the presenting of a theory presented by "Mplnt" that was very controversial to one of our more knowledgeable implant victim members, Sue Lyons. Ultimately Sue was kicked off of BIS, because Sue had used an expletive in her response to "Mplnt" on BIS. Susan Schaezler immediately removed her from BIS, using the expletive as the reason.
It was because of Sue Lyon's removal, that I immediately began WIS (Women's Implant Support) with a nucleous of 9 women to keep Sue Lyons company.
Although we do not correspond now, Sue Lyons was the catalyst for my forming WIS (now a membership of 400 or so individuals). I stayed on BIS after Sue Lyons was kicked off for a time, but then the control issues from Susan Schaezler again raised their ugly head with another member (Angela Hans). This time, I unsubscribed. I didn't wish to deal with the disruption any longer.
"Mplnt" has been in our midst (breast implant forums, etc.) for many years. Susan Schaezler and he have always appeared to be joined at the hip.
Imagine my distress, when some 4 years later, I learned that "Mplnt" was none other than Patrick O'Leary (President of McGhan - Scotland). Even more distressing was the fact that I am a McGhan/3M victim.
Myrl Jeffcoat Women's Implant Support xxx Rancho Cordova, California 95670
Ilena Rose - 30 May 2008 15:15 GMT There are so many factual errors on Myrl's rant that I would have to spend hours to correct all of her intentional lies.
Like hiding behind aliases like Will Ketcher, she learned from Mark Probert how to highjack threads.
Discussion subject changed to "Changing Course with Ilena Rosenthal" by Myrl
DISCUSSION CHANGED BACK 'WILL KETCHER'
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787daaffcb6d9/6d 188ff1f016a12b?lnk=gst&q=author%3Amyrl+gardasil+return+them+to+health#6d188ff1f0 16a12b
The only Vaccination Flack who has had the audacity to go this far in promoting Gardasil is my long term nemesis, and blatant pathological liar, Myrl Jeffcoat.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html She lies about vaccinations, about me, and has spun around180 degrees on several issues:
Patrick O'leary ... President of Inamed and now Medicor's Eurosilicone www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm
Laetrile ... went from being grateful that her mother survived 20+ years after uterine cancer diagnose, using no surgery, radiation nor chemo PAIN FREE ... only laetrile ... to screaming it is "pus or poison" much like Vac Flack Mark S Probert. She did this 180 degree turn 30 years after her mother's death. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistprobert.html
And now she makes this outrageous and false claim for Gardasil ...
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/msg/3143e801a10978f2?dmode...
"Given a choice between saving lives of 70% of the 250,000 - 290,000 women who die, vs. 7 UNPROVEN associated deaths. . .I don't think there is any choice, for most logically thinking people.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
This blatant disinformation from Myrl ... which she stands by, is totally bogus. Gardasil does NOT return "them to health" ... it is just Myrl Jeffcoat advertising lies for Merck.
Here Myrl is explaining what she calls "simple math" about the enormously complex and multi-faceted vaccination controversy ... the 'she' is me, Ilena, who Myrl has been attacking since joining Barrett's disinformation team about his losing lawsuit.
"She's so focused on bashing the idea that a vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is reluctant to do the math. . . 250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives saved!" Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat September 2007
Myrl - 31 May 2008 20:05 GMT Does anyone still wonder why Ilena Rosenthal is considered the Village Idiot of Newsgroups, or an Internet Rodeo Clown? --- I didn't think so!
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Ilena Rose - 31 May 2008 19:18 GMT Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Peter Bowditch added my name, and amalgam awareness activist's Ms Jan Drew's name without our permission. He has used it to confuse the issue of who supports the members of this Vaccination / Chemical Industry / Quackwatch SLAPP suits promotion list.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html "Peter - Is there an application one must fill out to become a member of the "posse"? I know that both Jan Drew and Ilena Rosenthal are "honorary" members. I was just wondering if there are any pre- qualifications. I might want to join!" Myrl Jeffcoat, May 31, 7:54 am
Coleah - 31 May 2008 19:23 GMT > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > qualifications. I might want to join!" Myrl Jeffcoat, May 31, 7:54 > am Poor Ilena......has no sense of humor, perhaps because the joke is usually on her!!! Hooray for the constipated personality.
Myrl - 31 May 2008 20:08 GMT > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > qualifications. I might want to join!" Myrl Jeffcoat, May 31, 7:54 > am I'm sorry to see that Peter added your's and Jan's names to the list. Before he did, the list had some integrity. I am even considering asking Peter to add me to the list, if I can qualify. But, I most certainly don't wish to be lumped into any group that would include idiots, like you and Jan! Your brains both work like they have overdosed on your favorite product.
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