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Tamiflu WORTHLESS?

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Citizen Jimserac - 20 May 2008 18:30 GMT
What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
TOTALLY WORTHLESS?

Citizen Jimserac
Mark Probert - 20 May 2008 22:35 GMT
> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
> TOTALLY WORTHLESS?
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Jimmy, it would depend on the method of action of Tamiflu. Why not
look it up and write about it, instead of posting your idle
speculation?
JanDrew - 21 May 2008 02:35 GMT
> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
> TOTALLY WORTHLESS?
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Jimmy, it would depend on the method of action of Tamiflu. Why not
look it up and write about it, instead of posting your idle
speculation?

Markey, why don't you do the same?

http://shadeshi.blogspot.com/2008_03_13_archive.html
==

ECDC and WHO Finds Tamiflu Ineffective.
Peter Bowditch - 21 May 2008 06:39 GMT
>> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
>> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>look it up and write about it, instead of posting your idle
>speculation?

While he's at it he might like to explain how it is a vaccine.

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JanDrew - 21 May 2008 08:02 GMT
>>> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
>>> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> While he's at it he might like to explain how it is a vaccine.

Well, duh.  That's what is is called.

http://seniorjournal.com/Spotlights/FLU2005-06/5-10-28TamfiluStopped.htm

Tamiflu Vaccine Shipments to U.S. Halted by Manufacturer

http://ezinearticles.com/?Tamiflu-Vaccine,-Rouche-Pharmaceuticals-and-Bird-Flu-C
risis&id=143388


Tamiflu Vaccine, Rouche Pharmaceuticals and Bird Flu Crisis

Web  Results 1 - 10 of about 212,000 for Tamiflu vaccine. (0.22 seconds)
Peter Bowditch - 21 May 2008 11:15 GMT
Just for today I have decided that I have to reply to an idiocy by the
latest incarnation of Jan Drew. (She occasionally lists various email
addresses used by regular posters as if changing addresses is some
sort of sin. I notice that she has a different email address to the
one she was using before. PKB, or perhaps hypocrisy.)

>>>> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
>>>> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Well, duh.  That's what is is called.

Not by the people who make it.

>http://seniorjournal.com/Spotlights/FLU2005-06/5-10-28TamfiluStopped.htm
>
>Tamiflu Vaccine Shipments to U.S. Halted by Manufacturer

Such manufacturer not calling it a vaccine.

>http://ezinearticles.com/?Tamiflu-Vaccine,-Rouche-Pharmaceuticals-and-Bird-Flu-C
risis&id=143388

>
>Tamiflu Vaccine, Rouche Pharmaceuticals and Bird Flu Crisis
>
>Web  Results 1 - 10 of about 212,000 for Tamiflu vaccine. (0.22 seconds)

Well, Jan, I simply don't give a flying f.ck how many anti-vaccination
liars call Tamiflu a vaccine. Calling a cat a goldfish doesn't let it
breathe under water.

Tamiflu is an anti-viral medication which is taken within 48 hours of
infection by flu. It does not prevent a flu infection (which is what a
vaccine would do). It is not a vaccine.

Now, tell me that Tamiflu is a "jab", like some liar did in 2006.

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2006/03march.htm#4avl

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JanDrew - 22 May 2008 06:28 GMT
 >Jan Drew.

Oops, this thread is not about me.

>>>>> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
>>>>> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Not by the people who make it.

http://seniorjournal.com/Spotlights/FLU2005-06/5-10-28TamfiluStopped.htm

>>Tamiflu Vaccine Shipments to U.S. Halted by Manufacturer

http://ezinearticles.com/?Tamiflu-Vaccine,-Rouche-Pharmaceuticals-and-Bird-Flu-C
risis&id=143388


>>Tamiflu Vaccine, Rouche Pharmaceuticals and Bird Flu Crisis
>>
>>Web  Results 1 - 10 of about 212,000 for Tamiflu vaccine. (0.22 seconds)

Lying web sites and spam deleted.
Mark Probert - 21 May 2008 14:07 GMT
> >> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
> >> into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> While he's at it he might like to explain how it is a vaccine.

With Jimmy, one has to start at the basics. I was hoping that he would
look up 'method of action' and learn something.
JanDrew - 22 May 2008 06:44 GMT
On May 21, 1:39 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> While he's at it he might like to explain how it is a vaccine.

With Jimmy, one has to start at the basics. I was hoping that he would
look up 'method of action' and learn something.

Like you learned something when you just open your mouth and stick both feet
in.
Bad habit to post off the top of your head, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY.

Did you bother to look first?:
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF8&q=forced+vaccinations

Doctors: Bill allows forced vaccinations
The bill gives "the HHS secretary virtually unlimited powers to
declare an emergency and order smallpox treatment that could include
forced immunizations, ...

Georgia Judge Forces Vaccination of Two Children Against Parent's Will

THE VACCINE REACTION
Gostin, who is a longtime forced vaccination proponent, will be
working with the National Governors Association, TOTAL HEALTH TYRANNY

Forced vaccinations and forced drugging already legal when "state of
emergency" called. New legislation would leave no accountability if
forced ...

www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100205_health_tyranny.shtml
Doctors Criticize Forced Vaccinations
in Maryland - Associated Content

Nov 28, 2007 ... Check out Doctors Criticize Forced Vaccinations in
Maryland - Submitted by Jules Popp at Associated Content.

www.associatedcontent.com/article/452653/doctors_criticize_forced_vac...
- 45k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
informationliberation - Children herded like cattle into Maryland ...

Nov 21, 2007 ... What's most interesting about this issue of using the
threat of imprisonment to force vaccinations upon children is not
necessarily who is ...

www.informationliberation.com/?id=24340 - 40k - Cached -

Similar pages - Note this
Forced vaccination without representation

So, our children would be forced to be injected with three doses of a
vaccine that could cause serious side effects and we don't know the
long term safety ...
www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54095
Forced Vaccinations
David Wright - 21 May 2008 03:53 GMT
>What is the likelihood that the flu virus has ALREADY mutated
>into a strain for which this popular flu vaccine is
>TOTALLY WORTHLESS?

Don't you come around here propagating your godless evolutionary
doctrines, young man!

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "There are two kinds of Republicans:  millionaires and suckers."
                                                     -- John Dolan
Jan Drew - 21 May 2008 05:02 GMT
> In article
> <ba551cd5-8ce3-4289-8bae-c27f5b9e7a04@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Don't you come around here propagating your godless evolutionary
> doctrines, young man!

Mercy, David has a control problem.

>  -- David Wright
 
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