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jurimed2@yahoo.com - 19 May 2008 19:38 GMT Coleah - You don't seem to be "passing the hat" for Poleoy, yet... What's going on? You, and your friends, were such STRONG SUPPORTERS of Polevoy's positions on the internet, encouraging him, as it were, to pusue his fake lawsuit agaisnt one of America's heroes, Ilena Rosenthal.
But now that he's lost that case and owes all that money to Ilena, it seems that you, and your little group have become strangley silent. What's going on? Whwn can Ilena start seeing some money?
Concerned for justice in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 19 May 2008 20:00 GMT On May 19, 11:38 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Coleah - You don't seem to be "passing the hat" for Poleoy, yet... > What's going on? You, and your friends, were such STRONG SUPPORTERS [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tim Bolen Whose passing the hat for your IRS liens, Timmie???
JanDrew - 20 May 2008 02:13 GMT Off-topic.
On May 19, 11:38 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Coleah - You don't seem to be "passing the hat" for Poleoy, yet... > What's going on? You, and your friends, were such STRONG SUPPORTERS [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tim Bolen Mark Probert - 20 May 2008 00:05 GMT On May 19, 2:38 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Concerned for justice in California... Yawn.
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news - 20 May 2008 00:36 GMT Yep, there he is again, asleep in class. On May 19, 2:38 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Concerned for justice in California... Yawn.
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Mark Probert - 20 May 2008 13:39 GMT > On May 19, 2:38 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sTools, neither you nor Bolen have anything to teach me.
When you come to realize that, I hope it does ruin your day.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 20 May 2008 14:15 GMT > > Yep, there he is again, asleep in class."Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > When you come to realize that, I hope it does ruin your day. So, mark:
You are not very clear in your communications. I can't tell from your writings how the "pass the hat" process is succeeding. You have to know that the "interest" on Terry's crushing debt is piling up. When are you guys going to jump in with a check writing frenzy. Eight of you, dividing up the debt, comes out to only $40,000 US each. What's the problem.
You were all so "supportive" of his aims in the beginning. Where's that support now? You know the old saying "put your money where your mouth is?
You seem to be asleep at the wheel, here, it appears...
Getting impatient in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 20 May 2008 14:22 GMT > > > Yep, there he is again, asleep in class."Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > You are not very clear in your communications. I can't tell from your > writings how the "pass the hat" process is succeeding. That is because the hat should be passed to you where the sun does not shine.
You have to
> know that the "interest" on Terry's crushing debt is piling up. When > are you guys going to jump in with a check writing frenzy. Eight of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Getting impatient in California... An alternative treatment for impatience is to take your computer and slam it against a tree.
Try it, and get back to me on how well it works.
JanDrew - 21 May 2008 02:06 GMT > > On May 19, 7:36 pm, "news" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You are not very clear in your communications. I can't tell from your > writings how the "pass the hat" process is succeeding. That is because the hat should be passed to you where the sun does not shine.
Forget to read Torah AGAIN, today?
You have to
> know that the "interest" on Terry's crushing debt is piling up. When > are you guys going to jump in with a check writing frenzy. Eight of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Getting impatient in California... An alternative treatment for impatience is to take your computer and slam it against a tree.
Temper, temper, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 21 May 2008 15:27 GMT > > > > Yep, there he is again, asleep in class."Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Now mark:
You need to think this through before you get all emotional. In North America, we are, for the most part, a community that bases our social system on the Juedo/Christian Ethic. We have put in place certain methods to iron out problems that arise from our mermbership. One of those "methods," as it were, is the US Court system. Scumbag Terry Polevoy, and his (cough, cough) friends activated that method to, supposedly, right a wrong in 2001 in Oakland,California. We all know now, that their efforts were not well received, neither by the courts (all the way to the California Supreme Court), nor by the wordlwide internet community, which, I'm sure you noticed, almost enmasse, came in to the case with Amicus Briefs, pretty much sneering at the legal, and other, claims of the gruesome threesome. - and, so it went.
Well, mark, our "method," and the activation of that "methoid," is not without cost - and there comes a time when the Piper needs to be paid. You, and yours, were, and are, Polevoy's "support network," and you, and yours, encouraged little Terry in his false claim - so, to me, it means that you, and yours, according to the Judeo/Christian Ethic, need now, to pick up the mantle of responsibility and go to the next level of "support" and get out those checkbooks.
Ethical in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 21 May 2008 16:39 GMT On May 21, 7:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Now mark: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Tim Bolen- Have you the IRS yet Tommie? If not - it's time for you to get out your checkbook, before you label yourself, "Ethical in California."
Jan Drew - 22 May 2008 07:17 GMT Diversion snipped again.
>On May 21, 7:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Now mark: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Tim Bolen- jurimed2@yahoo.com - 22 May 2008 14:21 GMT > On May 21, 7:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Myrl:
Are you, by your written contributions here, offering, as it were, to help Coleah "pass the hat"in some significant way?
You know, if you could jump in and be the NINTH shareholder in what we could call the "Polevoy Responsibility Project," you could bring the individual share down to $34,555.55 each. Think of that!
Even more helpful in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 22 May 2008 14:45 GMT On May 22, 6:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Myrl: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim Bolen- Tell you what Timmie - When you and Ilena pay off your IRS liens, and Ilena pays what she owes Coleah on the O'Leary judgement, then we'll talk about my possibly holding a bake sale on my front lawn. You guys FIRST!
Coleah - 22 May 2008 15:11 GMT > On May 22, 6:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > talk about my possibly holding a bake sale on my front lawn. You guys > FIRST! I can see that when I take a trip for a few days, smartass Timmie gets bored. If he and his wife put forth as much energy paying their own debts as they do in questioning Polevoy, they might pay something toward the $100,000 they have racked up with the IRS and State of California over 10 years.
How do they stay in business? Why doesn't the IRS and State of California shut them down? Inquirying minds want to know!
Poor Hulda Clark picked a lemon with hiring Timmie to improve her imagine in the universe....ha, ha, ha.
JanDrew - 23 May 2008 04:12 GMT Diversion Alert!!
"Coleah"
> smartass Timmie
>Hulda Clark jurimed2@yahoo.com - 23 May 2008 21:11 GMT > > On May 22, 6:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Coleah:
Wee you visiting Polevoy? How was it with two of you hiding under one bed?
Amused in California...
Tim Bolen
Coleah - 23 May 2008 23:28 GMT ============= On May 23, 3:11 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On May 22, 6:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > Myrl: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Even more helpful in California... > > > > Tim Bolen-
> > > Tell you what Timmie - When you and Ilena pay off your IRS liens, and > > > Ilena pays what she owes Coleah on the O'Leary judgement, then we'll > > > talk about my possibly holding a bake sale on my front lawn. You guys > > > FIRST!
> > I can see that when I take a trip for a few days, smartass Timmie gets > > bored. If he and his wife put forth as much energy paying their own [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Poor Hulda Clark picked a lemon with hiring Timmie to improve her > > imagine in the universe....ha, ha, ha.- Hide quoted text -
> Coleah: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ===================================
Tim, just a warning about your unfortunate spelling and typing errors....Jan Drew (the unofficial self-appointed newsgroup spelling judge) is taking notes and keeping score.
Actually, I headed to the Costa Rice condo.....and I don't 'hide' under beds. (Let's see Jan get all over this one).
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2008 05:42 GMT > ============= > On May 23, 3:11 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Coleah:
Was Polevoy with you in Costa Rica?
Curious in California...
Tim Bolen
Coleah - 24 May 2008 15:35 GMT ----- On May 23, 11:42 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Coleah: > Was Polevoy with you in Costa Rica? > > Curious in California... > Tim Bolen ----------------------------------
Jeez Bolen, you sound like you're digging for a 'hot story' for some cheap tabloid <VBG>......or perhaps for your funky Newsletter?
Jan Drew - 25 May 2008 05:37 GMT > Jan Drew Is not the subject.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 26 May 2008 03:03 GMT > > Jan Drew > > Is not the subject. Let's try this one more time. Maybe coleah missed the original message, while she and Polevoy were touring costa Rica?
Coleah - You don't seem to be "passing the hat" for Poleoy, yet... What's going on? You, and your friends, were such STRONG SUPPORTERS of Polevoy's positions on the internet, encouraging him, as it were, to pusue his fake lawsuit agaisnt one of America's heroes, Ilena Rosenthal.
But now that he's lost that case and owes all that money to Ilena, it seems that you, and your little group have become strangley silent. What's going on? Whwn can Ilena start seeing some money?
Concerned for justice in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 26 May 2008 03:18 GMT On May 25, 7:03 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Let's try this one more time. Maybe coleah missed the original > message, while she and Polevoy were touring costa Rica? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tim Bolen Let's try this one more time, Timmie - You seem to be ignoring an offer I made the other day.
Tell you what Timmie - When you and Ilena pay off your IRS liens, and Ilena pays what she owes Coleah on the O'Leary judgement, then we'll talk about my possibly holding a bake sale on my front lawn. You guys FIRST!
I'm concerned for the taxpaying citizens of the USA, and California, as well as for Justice.
Myrl
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 26 May 2008 07:27 GMT > On May 25, 7:03 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Myrl:
I don't think you are grasping the seriousness of the situation that all of you "Polevoy supporters" created, and I am utterly appalled at your group ambivalence towards accepting responsibility for your actions encouraging Canada's health care, and courtroom, embarassment, Terry Polevoy, in his very publicized, very flawed, and very kicked down, smashed, squished (insert your own appropriate adjective here) assault.
A "bake sale" just isn't going to cut it. You couldn't even raise enough to pay one day's interest on the debt with that. You, and all of you, need to line up - and cough up a big wad of cash - and soon - for the debt is growing.
I am appalled, too, at your group's "back turning" on Polevoy. When all of you thought he was "the man," and that, as we already knew, his incredibly stupid lawsuit was pertineny, ALL of you cheered him on.
And, now look what you do - nothing.... Leaving him to die, as it were, in the gutter.
What happened to the Judo/Christion ethic?
However, if you just call up Coleah, and offer to help her "pass the hat" you might just sleep better at night. You could salve that guilt quite a bit with an honest effort.
Disappointed in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 26 May 2008 14:01 GMT On May 25, 11:27 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Myrl: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Tim Bolen- Timmie - I don't think you grasp the seriousness of anything - including reality!
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 26 May 2008 16:08 GMT > On May 25, 11:27 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Myrl:
I guess all of you, with your action, or inaction, are agreeing that Polevoy deserves what he gets. Of course he does.
I suppose a good case could be made that it was a good thing that all of you cheered him on - for it should serve as a lesson to your side about the "reality" of who you, and your group really are, and what you are.
On the other hand, I can't help but remember back in 1999 when Hulda Clark was under attack from the scum brigade with that fake lawsuit, and that fake arrest, I put out a call for money and in just a few weeks Clark asked me to stop because $157k came in, and there was nothing to spend it on.
There is I guess, a big difference in the way things happen on our side (Good) versus your side (Evil).
I guess we'll all just sit here and watch Polevoy be hounded, and hounded - as he should be, of course. I'll keep you posted on how it goes, giving you a blow-by-blow of his hiding, squeaking in fear, whining, and pants-pissing as it occurs.
Rghteous, and amused, in California...
Tim Bolen
Myrl - 26 May 2008 19:17 GMT On May 26, 8:08 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Myrl: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tim Bolen- Timmie - You PROJECT too much, and REFLECT too little!
If I were a bettin' woman - which I am, I'd say your behavior here on newsgroups, is more about your own pants pissin' than anyone else's.
You aren't afraid of a little first party libel litigation are you??? Anyone feeling a little righteous while owing the IRS and the State of California as much money as you do, has got to be a little warped!
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 02:54 GMT > You aren't afraid of a little first party libel litigation are you??? > Anyone feeling a little righteous while owing the IRS and the State of > California as much money as you do, has got to be a little warped! This is indeed getting interesting. How you do think that this would work?
David Wright - 26 May 2008 19:34 GMT >> On May 25, 11:27 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >There is I guess, a big difference in the way things happen on our >side (Good) versus your side (Evil). Yes -- clearly, "your side" is full of credulous nitwits who'd back the silliness of a Hulda Clark. Hooray for your side.
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Peter Bowditch - 26 May 2008 22:11 GMT >On the other hand, I can't help but remember back in 1999 when Hulda >Clark was under attack from the scum brigade with that fake lawsuit, >and that fake arrest, I put out a call for money and in just a few >weeks Clark asked me to stop because $157k came in, and there was >nothing to spend it on. And of course this income was declared to the IRS and all appropriate taxes paid.
Oh, that's right - you don't do income tax, do you?
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Mark Probert - 27 May 2008 14:02 GMT On May 26, 11:08 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On the other hand, I can't help but remember back in 1999 when Hulda > Clark was under attack from the scum brigade with that fake lawsuit, > and that fake arrest, There was no fake suit nor fake arrest. The fact was that they had her cold on practising medicine without a license. She moved to avoid prosecution and the State of Indiana sat on its a.s too long before they had her arrested, so she got off on a technicality.
And, of course, her "treatment" killed Esther Figueroa.
I put out a call for money and in just a few
> weeks Clark asked me to stop because $157k came in, and there was > nothing to spend it on. P. T. Barnum.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 27 May 2008 23:39 GMT > On May 26, 11:08 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > P. T. Barnum. Poor mark:
Can't get any facts straight at all. Yes, it was a fake lawsuit - dreamed up in a basement (full of Radon?) by an idiot, I think. When the so-called Plaintiffs, including Esther Figueroa, alive and well, by the way, I believe it was seven years after she saw Clark, realized they had "been had," FIRED Christopher Grell and did not challenge the Dismissal.
The judge in the criminal case was aghast, so was the county Sheriff, to "suddenly" see an arrest warrant that never existed before, "pop up" in the NCIC computer.
It was an easy case to win - and it was great fun uncovering the sleazy quackbuster role - and exposing it to the public - and watching the laughter.
Funny how a two day session with Clark could kill Esther Figueroa seven years later. That's almost as good a story as shitbag bobbie baratz trying to convince the State of Wisconsin that a man was killed by chelation therapy three and a half years later, after he had chelation, while he was plowing his field at 92 years old...
Quit sucking on those old lead sinkers out of your tackle box, mark...
Amused in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 28 May 2008 13:39 GMT On May 27, 6:39 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 26, 11:08 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Poor mark: Wrong, as usual.
> Can't get any facts straight at all. You would not know a fact if it bit you in the a.s.
Yes, it was a fake lawsuit -
> dreamed up in a basement (full of Radon?) by an idiot, I think. You just lied. There is no evidence that you are capable of that, i.e. thinking.
When
> the so-called Plaintiffs, including Esther Figueroa, alive and well, > by the way, I believe it was seven years after she saw Clark, realized > they had "been had," FIRED Christopher Grell and did not challenge the > Dismissal. Of course, the facts in that suit showed that the defense's stalling tactics, etc. so dealyed discovery and depostions that it was impossible for Mrs. Figueroa to come to the depositions, which were not in her state of residence, but accross the country, because she was just too sick to travel.
> The judge in the criminal case was aghast, so was the county Sheriff, > to "suddenly" see an arrest warrant that never existed before, "pop > up" in the NCIC computer. Agasht? So you say. Bull sh.t.
There was ample evidence for the criminal accusatory instrument to be filed. Thus, there was E V I D E N C E of her criminal behavior. .
> It was an easy case to win - and it was great fun uncovering the > sleazy quackbuster role - and exposing it to the public - and watching > the laughter. You use mirrors for that, i.e. watching laughter.
> Funny how a two day session with Clark could kill Esther Figueroa > seven years later. You would think a person's death is funny. That is a comment on your lack of character.
Clark's "treatment" dissuaded Mrs. Figueroa from getting real treatment.
That's almost as good a story as shitbag bobbie
> baratz trying to convince the State of Wisconsin that a man was killed > by chelation therapy three and a half years later, after he had > chelation, while he was plowing his field at 92 years old... That is not unlikely, if the man went for chelation for ASHD and died of it, since ASHD is useless for treating that condition.
> Quit sucking on those old lead sinkers out of your tackle box, mark... I will not say what you suck on. Suffice it to say that you suck more than any black hole.
Jan Drew - 29 May 2008 04:05 GMT "Mark S Probert", Merrick, NY Did NOT read Torah today. He lies over and over. Lack of character--Mark S Probert.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 30 May 2008 02:50 GMT > On May 27, 6:39 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > I will not say what you suck on. Suffice it to say that you suck more > than any black hole. mark:
You really are a poor researcher. You remind me of Stephen Barrett. In regard to your comment below, about depositions:
"Of course, the facts in that suit showed that the defense's stalling tactics, etc. so dealyed discovery and depostions that it was impossible for Mrs. Figueroa to come to the depositions, which were not in her state of residence, but accross the country, because she was just too sick to travel. "
The depositions were scheduled at a hotel meeting room on East 36th Street in Manhattan - I was there waiting with attorney Carlos Negrete. When the so-called Plaintiffs didn't show up, we waited four extra hours before we began and ended the deposition. As I recall, wet then changed clothes and took a helicopter ride around Manhattan. I still have the photos of the Twin Towers taken from the helicopter. Then we went and had dinner in Little Italy.
Then about your stupid comment:
"There was ample evidence for the criminal accusatory instrument to be filed. Thus, there was E V I D E N C E of her criminal behavior. ."
I was sitting right there, smiling, when the Judge ruled. The Judge ruled there was no cause for any of these charges to come to her Court. That's what it means when judge throws out a case.
No wonder you lost your law ticket... You can't hold facts together.
Amused in California...
Tim Bolen
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 30 May 2008 07:17 GMT Coleah:
How much money have you raised?
Curious in California...
Tim Bolen
Coleah - 30 May 2008 18:36 GMT On May 30, 1:17 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Coleah: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tim Bolen ===================== Did someone make an insignificant fart in the universe to arouse attention ?
Oh...it was the lonely Bolen Bogger.
Jan Drew - 31 May 2008 02:58 GMT [ ]
Well, how much have you raised for your buddy?
On May 30, 1:17 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Coleah: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tim Bolen Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 02:53 GMT > Timmie - I don't think you grasp the seriousness of anything - > including reality! Myrl, he does, and if you really understood what he believes in, you might understand him. He is hardly (read his website) is a cheerleader for Quackwatch but believes in pro choice in health care. The cheerleaders for Quackwatch would appear to believe in no choice, is this how you believe? I'm getting the message here that you do not care for Timmie, however, if you believe in pro choice then you do believe in the values he believes in. And if you do, you have found common ground.
Mark Probert - 28 May 2008 13:41 GMT On May 27, 9:53 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Timmie - I don't think you grasp the seriousness of anything - > > including reality! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cheerleader for Quackwatch but believes in pro choice in health care. > The cheerleaders for Quackwatch would appear to believe in no choice, You keep saying that after being told that those people who question alternative treatments believe in fully informed choice.
> is this how you believe? I'm getting the message here that you do not > care for Timmie, however, if you believe in pro choice then you do > believe in the values he believes in. And if you do, you have found > common ground. Bedbackwards - 04 Jun 2008 20:01 GMT > You keep saying that after being told that those people who question > alternative treatments believe in fully informed choice. I was at a research clinic in Texas (the one that was visited by a blonde haired thug about a month prior to my visit); he believes in continuing to see your regular doctor and that everyone that goes there is advised that the research has been proven to be effective for an array of allergies. I've watched my allergies improve in the 3 different research efforts I've participated in. I've also had one effort stay the same. It takes approximately 5 months for all of the symptoms (allergies) to disappear. Interesting is that people want the "magic pill" that works and heals 100%. This would hold true all of forms of medicine. That first prescription drug use doesn't cure the disease, nor should the first treatment of an alternative type of research be expected to as well. However, as with any type of medicine, it takes time to see the results if a treatment protocol is going to work or not. Those that are ignorant about medicine in general, are the ones that I refer to as the real quacks. People go off complaining that something didn't work when they only took 2 pills or had one treatment. I take part in pretty much traditional medicine, but I also believe in trying and participating in research.
Being ignorant about treatment protocols and claim they don't work because you don't know anything about them, or do not have any personal experience in the matter shows a biased opinion. Many of those that post here do not have any real practical experience in alternative treatment forms. But just like the research clinic I visited, and interviewed the doctor, and participated, many MDS are sending clients to that client because they have seen the good results of the treatment protocols there.
Mark Probert - 04 Jun 2008 22:12 GMT > > You keep saying that after being told that those people who question > > alternative treatments believe in fully informed choice. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > those that post here do not have any real practical experience in > alternative treatment forms. Hiya Debster!
I do not have any real practical experience in jumping out of planes without a parachute. I do know that it is not s good idea.
I learned that years ago when I did one jump where my chute was not properly packed and did not open. My reserve worked just fine, just having it open at 400 feet was not a thrill. .
But just like the research clinic I
> visited, and interviewed the doctor, and participated, many MDS are > sending clients to that client because they have seen the good results > of the treatment protocols there. Bedbackwards - 04 Jun 2008 22:54 GMT > I do not have any real practical experience in jumping out of planes > without a parachute. I do know that it is not s good idea. That would be a no brainer - but that is miles apart from a discussion on alternative care therapies.
> I learned that years ago when I did one jump where my chute was not > properly packed and did not open. My reserve worked just fine, just > having it open at 400 feet was not a thrill. . I've jumped once myself, but my chute did open, and I was flying tandem and was not afraid.
Mark Probert - 05 Jun 2008 14:21 GMT > > I do not have any real practical experience in jumping out of planes > > without a parachute. I do know that it is not s good idea. > > That would be a no brainer - Well, that makes YOU the expert.
> > I learned that years ago when I did one jump where my chute was not > > properly packed and did not open. My reserve worked just fine, just > > having it open at 400 feet was not a thrill. . > > I've jumped once myself, but my chute did open, and I was flying > tandem and was not afraid. Only one? I am approaching 2000.
Coleah - 27 May 2008 01:05 GMT On May 26, 1:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 25, 7:03 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > - Show quoted text - --------------------------------- I see Timmie still has not found a useful hobbie and has nothing better to do on this Memorial Day. I've been remembering fallen heroes and laying a loved one to rest. Please STFU.
Jan Drew - 27 May 2008 02:56 GMT On May 26, 1:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 25, 7:18 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - --------------------------------- I see Timmie still has not found a useful hobbie and has nothing better to do on this Memorial Day. I've been remembering fallen heroes and laying a loved one to rest. Please STFU -----------------------------------------
Laying a loved one to rest, then posting in this manner. NOT practicing Christian, Coleah P Ayres.
Coleah - 27 May 2008 22:10 GMT > On May 26, 1:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > - Show quoted text - And the horse you rode in on, Jan Drew. And for Christ's sake if you're going to harrass me about my spiritual life, at least learn to spell my name correctly. What a baffoon! (We know why James is abusive to you, but you don't have to stay up late drinking yourself to death.)
Jan Drew - 01 Jun 2008 02:55 GMT On May 26, 8:56 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > - Show quoted text -
>>And the horse you rode in on, Jan Drew. None.
>>And for Christ's sake No need to take the Lord's name in vain. You keep doing it proving you are not a Christian.
>> if you're going to harrass me about my spiritual life No harassing, evidently you have no spiritual life.
>> at least learn to spell my name correctly.
I did.
>>What a baffoon! (We know why James is abusive to you,
That's the second time you have posted that Blatant lie. I suggest you retract it immediately.
>>but you don't have to stay up late drinking yourself to death.)
I do NOT drink as you are suggesting.
NON Christian.
Jan Drew - 26 May 2008 07:32 GMT Nothing but a repeated diversion.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 02:47 GMT > I'm concerned for the taxpaying citizens of the USA, and California, > as well as for Justice. Myrl, I called the IRS a couple of days ago, and they said if they were really worried, they would be on Timmie. It would appear that there would appear to be individuals here that are worried about Timmie's tax burden, which you should take off of your plate --- the IRS handles their own collections, not us taxpayers.
Peter Bowditch - 26 May 2008 08:26 GMT >But now that he's lost that case and owes all that money to Ilena, If he owes money to anyone it would be to Ilena's lawyers, who were smart enough to make sure that she didn't get her hands on any before they were paid.
> it >seems that you, and your little group have become strangley silent. >What's going on? Whwn can Ilena start seeing some money? Never, unless her lawyers offer to give her some of what is theirs.
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Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 24 May 2008 06:32 GMT > Poor Hulda Clark picked a lemon with hiring Timmie to improve her > imagine in the universe....ha, ha, ha.- Hide quoted text - Coleah, I've been reading up on Hulda Clark, and I think some of the stuff that has been stated about "her work," around these parts comes from ignorant people that do not understand the principles of research. I just finished an interview with a gentlemen that runs a research clinic in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. He once had an office at the Environmental Health Center (Dr. Rea), he is listed on the Quackwatch pages as being "questionable practices." There is nothing that is going on at this research clinic that is "questionable" in the first place. It would appear that there are just some pretty close minded individuals that do not understand the principles of quantum physics. Four weeks ago, a hoodlum/thug showed up at this research center, "borrowed" a key without asking (hasn't returned it yet), and it would appear based on entertainment factors that the place is bugged. This thug is rather large and tall in height, has blonde frizzy hair, and and was most interested in getting in the building---when he was looking for the landlord (who had long ago moved out and retired by first name), and couldn't get in posing as dental supplies salesperson, then he followed the researcher and his wife to the office supply store, and borrowed the key to the building without asking permission. Now, why would Quackwatch, put this research center up as being a questionable practice? My only guess is that they do not understand what the research is all about, and since nothing there is illegal, that it would appear that they lack the educational background in the subject and therefore they have labelled it quackery. I spent a great deal of time as I am interested in the treatment for austitic children and the treatment of lymes disease. Even reputable MD's are sending their patients to him for assistance.
I know you have said that there are parts of Quackwatch that you do not support, and some that you do, but I'm starting to see a trend here. After learning more about quantum physics this past week, learning that his place would appear to be bugged, and seeing the center on QW's pages I'm beginning to think that QW is a bigger joke than ever.
Hopefully the Canadian goose will pay his debt soon, so that O'Leary will get paid, and all of this will behind all of you soon.
Myrl - 24 May 2008 14:32 GMT On May 23, 10:32 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> learning that his place would appear to be bugged, It seems to me that if a place "appears" to be bugged, then the person that owns the place, would simply get an expert in and debug the place, rather than trying to promote a conspiracy theory.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 02:42 GMT > It seems to me that if a place "appears" to be bugged, then the person > that owns the place, would simply get an expert in and debug the > place, rather than trying to promote a conspiracy theory. Myrl, I am thinking you meant your post to be humorous, right? Did I mention "promoting a conspiracy theory?" Absolutely not. However, it is pretty much known where the thugs are coming from, and I'm sure they enjoyed the conversation about the lunatics that support the Quackwatch group!!
No one should have to spend money to "debug" their own place of business, and those individuals that planted the bugs in the first place would appear to be a very unethical group of people. Everything that transpires in that research center is completely legally, and it is not a sin to know as much as the Air Force knows.
Coleah - 24 May 2008 15:27 GMT -- On May 24, 12:32 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Poor Hulda Clark picked a lemon with hiring Timmie to improve her > > imagine in the universe....ha, ha, ha.- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Hopefully the Canadian goose will pay his debt soon, so that O'Leary > will get paid, and all of this will behind all of you soon. Glad you are back and hope you are feeling better.
I wouldn't get all excited about Dr. Polevoy's money in any way, shape or form paying off the O'Leary Judgment.....as it is all earmarked to go to Attorney Goldowitz and crew......unless for some reason THEY might wish to pay off the O'Leary Judgment against Ilena Rosenthal......but I really wouldn't hold my breath.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 02:44 GMT > Glad you are back and hope you are feeling better. I am not back, and I wasn't feeling sick. I am in Dallas on personal business; interviewing alternative health care professionals.
JanDrew - 23 May 2008 04:10 GMT "Myrl"
>Timmie >Ilena Not the subject.
Mark Probert - 23 May 2008 13:49 GMT On May 22, 9:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 21, 7:27 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Tim Bolen- Timmie, you seem to have this obsession with "passing". Try some Beano to clear it up.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 23 May 2008 21:09 GMT > On May 22, 9:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Quackpots:
I'm not clear here on what you are saying, so could you help me clarify?
I'll be specific. Are you "passing the hat" for Polevoy, and if, so, how much maney have you collected? Where are you intending to send th emoney - to Polevoy (I don't advise that) or to Ilena Rosenthal directly?
Curious in California...
Tim Bolen
P.S. Hurry - those Memorial Day sales won't last long...
Mark Probert - 23 May 2008 22:48 GMT On May 23, 4:09 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 22, 9:21 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > emoney - to Polevoy (I don't advise that) or to Ilena Rosenthal > directly? Timmie, you are still passing that noxious by-product of digestion and posting it here. Like I said, try some Beano:
http://www.beanogas.com/
However, if you do decide to try it, careful, as it will deflate your head.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2008 05:40 GMT > On May 23, 4:09 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > - Show quoted text - mark:
So the check is in the mail?
Curious in California...
Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 27 May 2008 13:56 GMT On May 24, 12:40 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 23, 4:09 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > So the check is in the mail? Please learn how to read.
Jan Drew - 25 May 2008 05:46 GMT "Mark S Probert forgot to read Torah today.
Myrl - 20 May 2008 18:56 GMT > Getting impatient in California... > > Tim Bolen- Is the IRS getting impatient with you Timmie?
JanDrew - 21 May 2008 02:08 GMT Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 24 May 2008 06:13 GMT > Is the IRS getting impatient with you Timmie? Myrl, how do you know for sure that Bolen is not paying the IRS in payments? His lien would still show up for the full amount until it was paid in full.
Mark Probert - 27 May 2008 13:56 GMT On May 24, 1:13 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is the IRS getting impatient with you Timmie? > > Myrl, how do you know for sure that Bolen is not paying the IRS in > payments? > His lien would still show up for the full amount until it was paid in > full. Is there any evidence that he has a job?
Bedbackwards - 04 Jun 2008 19:48 GMT > Is there any evidence that he has a job? Is there any evidence that you have a job beyond posting in the newsgroup? Two or three - Shay!
Mark Probert - 04 Jun 2008 22:13 GMT > > Is there any evidence that he has a job? > > Is there any evidence that you have a job beyond posting in the > newsgroup? > Two or three - Shay! No, there is no evidence that he is employed. Meanwhile, I am .
Bedbackwards - 04 Jun 2008 22:55 GMT > No, there is no evidence that he is employed. Meanwhile, I am . Employed or own your own business?
Mark Probert - 05 Jun 2008 14:22 GMT > > No, there is no evidence that he is employed. Meanwhile, I am . > > Employed or own your own business? Having your own business is being employed. You work longer hours, much longer hours.
news - 20 May 2008 15:39 GMT Just another way to admit that you are not ignorant, only stupid. You have my pity. On May 19, 7:36 pm, "news" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, there he is again, asleep in class."Mark Probert" > <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sTools, neither you nor Bolen have anything to teach me.
When you come to realize that, I hope it does ruin your day.
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